Beethoven : Prelude and Fugue in e (Hess 29) with accompanied score

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Prelude and fugue for two violins and a violoncello with sheet music.
Performers: Unknown (suggestions welcome)
Music Score: IMSLP
Also check original video where I extracted the music (no copyright infringement intended!)
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@l.michna1318 4 жыл бұрын

3:41 fugue

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

The thematic brilliance of the fuge is out of this world. Beethoven dissects the subject into 4/5 parts depending on how you group it. (check out the replies to this comment. ill post other relizations) SUBJECT: 3:40 1) The fate motif: 4:46 2) Chromatic scale: 5:01 (2nd violin) 3*) A downward fifth which is played with brilliantly (in augmentation): 4:28 - 4:36 (cellos) 4) Octave jump: 4:57 (1st violin), 5:04 (cello) 5) Haydnesque motif: 4:42 (violins) *Notice how the circle of fifth often occurs after the downward fifth (in the subject) or replacing it. (4:30 2nd violin plays downward fifth and the progression follows) (4:25 first violin's subject is completed by cello in augmentation). Just brilliant, the upward fourths (in cellos) are presented as a continuation of the 2nd violin statement of the "fifth" motif in 4:41, this fact is one of the reasons how i know Beethoven did this intentionally. **Beethoven goes through great lengths to emphasize that the fifth motif is an intentional one, **4:12** (2nd violins play the fifth and the cello plays it in augmentation VERBATIM, same with **4:30**, same b to e motion)** More importantly is this section 5:14 where the cello plays the fifth and octave in *augmentation* (theme bears jarring similarity to the eroica finale). 4:12 (fifth motif, cellos, last and first note of measures) If anyone is wondering Beethoven does the same with the pastoral symphony (the violas right after the first fermata play part of the melody upside down), op 131 Adagio, op 59 no 1, eroica finale fugues and many more pieces and even more so in fuges. ** Look up "Jacob Gran". He has a video dissecting the Pathetique sonata (written a few years after this fugue) in a far better, more academic way than I ever could. Also search "Richard Atkinson" and "gurubach" they do analysis more thorough than this all the time. And i might as well throw smalin in there too ***

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

This is how i found about the falling fifths and leaping octave: 5:10 The cellos clearly show that the falling fifth (and leaping octave) is an important motif. Beethoven keeps it in the unstrict version of the subject (in augmentation) and does so twice. This (5:10) is the true contrapuntal climax of the piece (Beethoven combines all the main motifs much like in Mozarts Jupiter), 5:40 looks like the climax if you dont notice the fifths and octave motifs. Edit: 5:10 It reminds me of this moment from bach's c sharp major fugue for some odd reason: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/psqee5Rku5zRcoU.html

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

The "fifth motif" (not to be confused with the fate motif lol) is often followed by the octave one, just like in the subject. Ex: 4:02 (2nd violins). 4:35, 5:03, (cellos state both the fifth and then the octave). 5:14 (cellos, augmentation, probably the most blatant example) 5:35 (cellos)

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

3:46 The 2nd violin's answer, to me, seems 2 beats too late or too early. Beethoven probably did this so he could state all 5 motifs before the real fun begins.

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

This is not even taking into account the actual cocunterpoint: there are a great many canons and strettos but my favorite is : 5:04 and 5:40. Although 4:42 is not technically a stretto, the combination of the fifth and haydn motifs is (for lack of a better term) brilliant.

@JacobGran 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool! The descending fifths motive in this context reminds me very strongly of the "And He Shall Reign Forever and Ever" Fugue from Handel's Messiah, and a couple of fugal moments from the very end of Beethoven's career. He seems to have often become obsessed with not just a motive, but a single interval and pursued it really systematically. Nottebohm has very little to say about the fugue from Hess 29, but he seems to have been under the impression that Beethoven's intention was to compose a "presto" finale that he never got around to, based on a comment written into the fair copy of the score. But I don't know whether this was Beethoven's original plan, or whether it was written in later.

@clairehilariousshows 6 жыл бұрын

This is the only recording of this version I have been able to find to listen to in preparation to my trio playing it. Thank you!

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

I remember writing this. I’m working on another fugue right now!

@henrykwieniawski7233 3 жыл бұрын

Can’t wait to hear it, Mr. Ludwig!

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

@@henrykwieniawski7233 Oh, I remember you, Henryk! That virtuosic violinist I heard once.

@ValzainLumivix 3 жыл бұрын

@CatkhosruShapurrjiFurabji 2 жыл бұрын

Be sure to, but the fugues from your symphonies, string quartet (especially the Op.131 first movement), and the Große Fuge seem satisfying enough.

@ezequielcamacho5956 Жыл бұрын

Can u compose a cello concerto pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :( ?

@SimoneBattaglia94 3 жыл бұрын

This fugue would have not sounded out of place in the late 17th century. Reminds me of Legrenzi.

@SimoneBattaglia94 3 жыл бұрын

I don't know if he had access to his work actually, but certainly Vienna was involved with many Venetian composers especially during the 17th and 18th century. I'm also thinking about Caldara.

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

4:43 is quintesentailly haydn.

@LachlanTyrrell2003 4 жыл бұрын

sounds very similar to the fugue from mozart's d minor string quartet fugue last movement n.12

@lenchenlindemann8003 7 ай бұрын

Бетховен- Творец. Он неудержимо идет вперёд, развивает любой жанр, к которому прикоснется. И дает ему второе рождение на более высоком и сложном уровне. Разве что-то могло удержать его Истинную Суть Творца в сочинении фуг? Естественно, его гению стало тесно в этих канонических рамках. Его гений не знает границ и пределов.

@xpkryanx 6 жыл бұрын

Ich liebe es

@iron4us 6 жыл бұрын

🦋

@ensifer329 26 күн бұрын

the fugue sound like the fugue of mozarts 13th quartet ( 4th mvt)

@adrianaratsch-rivera7561 3 жыл бұрын

Does anybody have a date as to when he composed it? After 1792? And if it was an assignment given by Albrechtsberger?

@Sam-tj9np 3 жыл бұрын

Yes when he was practicing counterpoint with him. Hess 64 is a piece he wrote before he studied it (he basically was just guessing how to write a fugue without studying).

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

@@Sam-tj9np I wouldnt say "guessing", Beethoven played the wtc since 12, in hess 64 he makes an attempt at a fugue without academically studying one and almost manages to get away with it.

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

The recording is Clemens Hagen, Lukas Hagen, and Rainer Schmidt (related to the Hagen quartet).

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

Are you Sam2323?

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven No. Why?

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven Ive come across sam 2123 and daniel fahimi in many videos though like a recording of the hammerklavier.

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

@@leonhardeuler6811 Your text is very similar to his.

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

@@leonhardeuler6811 " Ive come across sam 2123 and daniel fahimi in many videos though like a recording of the hammerklavier." I'm well acquainted with both of them now; I've gotten used to their syntax and writing styles, which is why I noticed that yours is remarkably similar to Sam's.

@LionKing-mv2uk 3 жыл бұрын

Isnt this two fugues?

@authenticmusic4815 2 жыл бұрын

Yup, the prelude is fugal as well

@tarikeld11 3 жыл бұрын

My ears can't hear 3/4, it always sounds like 6/8 to me

@salvatoregiordano4202 3 жыл бұрын

It should be for the poco allegretto tempo

@composer318 3 жыл бұрын

Coz they r similar

@tarikeld11 3 жыл бұрын

@@composer318 No, the rhythm stays the same. The piece is written in eight notes. Either you count every eight note (6/8) or every quarter beat (the correct 3/4).

@composer318 3 жыл бұрын

@@tarikeld11 understandable

@composer318 3 жыл бұрын

Similar to bach

@authenticmusic4815 3 жыл бұрын

The theme is terribly similar to the one in the last movement in Bach's 54th cantata Great work though

@leonhardeuler6811 3 жыл бұрын

I cant unhear the fact that this section: 4:40 (2nd volins) sounds like Bach's d major orchrestral suite: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pdeFZ9V3xN_XgaM.html I assume these things are mainstay in baroque music.

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 3 жыл бұрын

@@leonhardeuler6811 They are a mainstay. If you listen to Baroque orchestral (or even solo) music, you'll find that rhythms like that are often used. The descending-ascending stepwise movement is actually very common, there are numerous examples within Bach's orchestral suites alone (you'll find an inverted form of the rhythm used in the B Minor Suite, in the same contour).

@leonhardeuler6811 2 жыл бұрын

@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven I'm aware that the rhythm is often used, especially in basso continuos, I was referring to the leaps of fourths/fifths which isn't stepwise at all like you suggested.

@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven 2 жыл бұрын

@@leonhardeuler6811 No, there totally are stepwise ascents and descents in this kind of music. I wasn't aware that you were referring to leaps, which exist contemporaneously.

@leonhardeuler6811 2 жыл бұрын

@@therealrealludwigvanbeethoven That's what I was saying: I was referring to the leaps in he 2nd Violins

@brentusfirmus 4 жыл бұрын

Did Beethoven compose this, or just arrange it for string trio? It doesn't sound like Beethoven...

@GwennySweety 4 жыл бұрын

As far as I know, this is an original composition.

@brentusfirmus 4 жыл бұрын

@@GwennySweety I'm very skeptical. It's stylistically very anomalous, and the counterpoint is far better than anything Beethoven is known to have produced in his lifetime. His fugues are wonderful music, but they aren't very good fugues :-/

@jdj830 4 жыл бұрын

He wrote this as a composition assignment from his teacher Albrechtsberger, along with a couple of similar works for string quartet. He was particularly proud of this three-part piece and made some notes indicating that he would add another movement to make it a concert work but apparently never followed through. This is probably his most technically “correct” fugue and it’s a satisfying piece of music as well, but it’s in a deliberately archaic style. It really wasn’t until his late period that Beethoven figured out how to write a fugue in his own voice (and even then really only the first movement of op. 131 fully succeeds in that goal.)

@JcFiscus42 3 жыл бұрын

jdj830 also the grosse fugue movement from quartet 13

@klop4228 3 жыл бұрын

I think it's clearly an early piece. Just cos his later fugues stretch the definition of a fugue doesn't mean he didn't know how to write one. I think the existence of this is in fact proof that the later ones were so comparatively 'non-fugal' on purpose.