Considering how the people in the replay played, I doubt that it would change much if they could play with todays tanks. Only from the video I would've thought that that where bots.

2028, 1 minute after the game has started: the enemy's American scout drone has your team perma-spotted, as he calls in his nuclear strike and a third of the map is ingulfed in fire you think back at 2012 wot and remember what it was like.

@@yourivandervegt3811 LMAO

You'd think this comment is a joke. But the amount of games I had recently where out it's dies in the first 20 seconds, 2 minutes in were down 7 players. Not even an exaggeration.

@@TheNeonwing Yeah these were different times. I also had a very bad PC at this time. My friends I played with spotted and shot the enemy before I could even see them. Vise versa as well, the enemy came around a corner, shot me, drove back and after that they appeared for me lol

This is important

I second this

A LOT, that's for sure! You can still get the idea by playing it in WoT Blitz.

Was thinking about that 1 myself. A t6 tank with a t8 cannon. Made you feel filthy 1 shotting lights with ap rounds

I am unashamed to say that I had 1100 battles in it before it was changed. At the time I was getting a bunch of friends into wot and when it came time to grind that tier, it was my go to carry machine for max win streaks and xp.

Or even the old KV with the 152. Even the 107 was awesome

one of my favorite tanks

Yup, Dragons Ridge and the original Pearl River please!

Tier 5 KV with KV-2 Turret, clubbing E50s...Memories^^

Seeing old arty would be pretty interesting too. There was that American Tier 2 which could go into TD mode due to good armor, and SU-26 was an infamous seal-clubber. A pretty stark contrast to what we have now. I think there are old QB videos of T18 already.

Look up: Before It Was Nerfed: KV

exactly me and my friend

It was just only one the Pz. IV (without A-I indexes)

I hate the KV 1S without the old 122

@@matthewyang7893 Kv 85 is pretty much the same thing just a bit nerfed, not even that much worse

KV-1S

Old WT auf E100

t-18

I enjoyed the early +/- 4 and the latter +/- 3 mm actually. I liked being bottom tier, having to rely on smarts and my team as distraction to wreak havoc.

That's why I love my AMX Elc bis.

Iirc it was restricted also for team composition, ie only a certain amount of isu-152 allowed etc. LOONNNNGGGGG CUE TIMES!!!

I remember all of these nice guys

very balanced 🤝

Yeah the Bulldog!!! T49 were T5 😵

I second this list

@@mikeskiss3310 T49 was TD back in the day, now called T67 i think.

Yeah, I remember a playing session from back then. Shortly before the derp nerf to 104 pen, we wanted to play our Shermans one last time. We played 3 man platoon Shermans. 30 games, 29 of them won. The only loss was against an enemy mirror platoon of Shermans who outplayed us because we were reckless after the 24th (or so) win in a row ^^ Just this firepower times 3. Thats like 1050 alpha damage every 6 seconds. Can only be described as disgusting.

@@saltatio1545 look at the MM though... you had T5 tanks in a TIER X match. You wouldn't have a chance to get any exp and creds otherwise. As the tier spread got smaller, the guns got nerfed (too much for some tanks IMO). Physics in the game were a lot different then as well. The update rate for spotting tanks at a distance was slower (why the T-50-2 was better then) making small fast tanks like the ELC a LOT harder to hit. It really was a different game then.

@@1slotmech That is true. But the Shermans were matched against T8 maximum. Only lights would be T5 vs T10. And even something like an IS-3 is no match for a platoon which does 1050 damage every 6s. If they know how to play that is, and we did back then ^^ And the Shermans could be toptier vs. T3, T4, which was the really disgusting thing... And I would say that the "slowness" you described worked in favour of such tactics. It would take a lot longer to react to small nimble tanks flanking you. Sometimes you have reloaded a 6s shot before the heavy could turn around. That is unthinkable now. Just look how QB could drive between the T10s in the town. That is not even remotely possible today.

@@saltatio1545I don't know about you, but I was in the game back then. Light tanks could be matched as a medium one or two tiers higher, if I remember correctly. So you could indeed find, say your Luchs, in a tier 8 match. If you were going to drive a light, you needed the firepower to be useful in the game. And yes, you could circle strafe mediums two tiers higher at that time, easily if no one else was shooting at you while you were doing it. But you are toast if anyone hit you, especially Artie. New players weren't any better than they are now

And dragon ridge!

You know what I think WG should have done? Remove the ELC AMX from the French light tank line and instead included as the tier 6 or 7 in a new line of microscopic, HEAT flinging French tank destroyers. Cause that's what this thing was really intended to be in real life, a tank destroyer. This was like a whole thing the French were doing in the 50's, experimenting with these tiny tank destroyers for taking out masses of Soviet armour. The ELC EVEN 90 is also part of this development program, and could easily become a tier 8 premium tank destroyer if they made HEAT its standard round along with buffing the damage to 320 and increasing its gun stats. But the really fun one would be the tier 10, the ELC EVEN 120. The ELC EVEN 120 was a vehicle that made the ELC AMX look massive by comparison and carried 4 120mm recoilless rifles. Just imagine it for a second, this microscopic and highly mobile little tank destroyer that could shoot you down like an autoreloader with x4 400 damage HEAT rounds unloaded over time. Or it could just unload all 4 of its guns at once and blast you with 1600 damage. Now the vehicle would be balanced in having quite low DPM for a tank destroyer, probably taking 11-12 seconds to reload each shell. It would also have cripplingly low health of around 1100 or 1200. It would also have terrible shell velocity travelling around 600 meters per second. So yeah, that's my idea for what WG should do with these tiny tanks.

Remember Dragon Ridge map? That one was awesome.

@@robinkhn2547 its still on console, I love it to death but I haven't played console in years now lol

@@robinkhn2547 I miss Dragon's ridge. The colors were great. I REALLY hope they add the Bay map from topography. Had similar vibrancy to it.

ah yes, the magic forest))) the game of chicken - half of tanks on both teams hiding on almost even ground near each other and it's only 1 light kamikaze tank rush away of total carnage)))

@@RavenShugo And that little knoll in the SE corner is actually closer to the north spawn, but they would just sit and camp the woods. If I was in a speedy tank, I'd always rush down there immediately. Half the time the team pushed down and supported, other times they set up camp, made s'mores, and sang kumbaya. Ah the memories.

Yeah that would great

@@trond-gjranskog1585 Yes to ELC AMX !

When we first played in 2012 we had a platoon of 3 Marder II's It was actually disgusting, even with standard ammo.

I happened to find noobmeter at 2013-14 and saw that my Marder 2 was above 60% wins so I bought it back thinking I'd love to play it some more.. but it was after the nerfs so I didn't :D

YES!!!!

Ah yes, the T18, a tier II TD with broken op armor. Still remember how I once did 12 kills with it back on the original Province map. That was fun.

T18!

The SU-122-54 was also removed from the game, although that wasn't necessarily because it was overpowered. When they revamped the secondary USSR TD line, the Obj. 263 was changed from T10 to T9 and the Obj. 268 v4 was added in at T10.

@@AliceC993 SU-122-54 wasn’t overpowered at all, quite the opposite. It had the same gun as the IS-4 with a faster RoF which was really nice at tier 9, but had a narrow gun arc and no gun depression nor armor. It was kind of like the kjpz with the 105 in my opinion.

@@travisvalentine6930 That's what I meant lol And yeah that's a fair comparison, it played a lot like the AMX Cda 105 and the KanJPz 105. Probably its biggest problem was that it just wasn't much of an upgrade from the SU-101 which, while it still isn't great now, was a bit of a turd back then.

the game was never good

yea, we can see how good it was...

I miss the ore nerfed kv5, sherman E2, and the bastard T18 td

Not so good, but definetely fun. 🙃

it was always mediocre at best but at least the golden period just after the physics revamp was the most fun

Amen, that konische top gun was to goddamn sweet. It was one of the first tier 6 tanks that I really felt a groove with, being a potato

TBH i feel that the 13-90 is much better now.. waaay better aim time and 4 round clip is just more flexible than the 6 round. And as a tier 8 it got matched up as if it was a tier 9 anyway.

It was my favourite tank too. I loved to hunt KV-1S in the enemy team !

13-90 debuted as a tier 7 tank, and was later moved to tier 8 when the medium tank branches got tier 10 tanks. Used to be a really fun tank back then.

@@PB2070 ahh, you are correct. It's been awhile. So yes, at tier 7, it was devastating. It was definitely the flavor of the month back then.

Thx for remembering because I literally did that with my dad😢

@@user-gc9ym7cz4n the good memories. Also glad they fixed alot of that though.