BUY THE FIRST BOOK HERE: amzn.to/2M9Bue7 Corrections: Malazan is longer if you count books in world but not apart of the main story. It is also third person limited. That one was just a brain fart. This video contains only well known, repeated info for the Wheel of Time. It is purely meant for those who know nothing/not much, and want to get a glimpse before starting. Sorry for some of the repetition! But feel free to share this video with anyone who has yet to jump in. :)
@DanielGreeneReviews5 жыл бұрын
Sure!
@fantasyloredeepdives64205 жыл бұрын
Would it be worth having an amazon.co.uk affiliate link so we can help support you?
@aurelio34105 жыл бұрын
Mat changed at the taking of Mr. Sanderson but he goes back to the old Mat towards the end . He made out of character comments about women being like goats/mules and the noble boots thing
@DanielGreeneReviews5 жыл бұрын
Working on that @Damien
@babetteleblanc76205 жыл бұрын
Ok you convinced me. Been dragging my feet on this one...and I started reading fantasy in 1971. Bridge 4 loves it too. Used your link.
@MissMokate4 жыл бұрын
"I know some fantasy fans do prefer 1st person, I think you people are monsters-" lmao I couldn't agree more I actually snorted out loud
@lancejedrickmaniquiz75474 жыл бұрын
So what's a third person narration style of this Book?
@samtrott7764 жыл бұрын
I did too that was hilarious
@jordanb73044 жыл бұрын
I’ve never actually read a 1st person fantasy book. What would make it so bad? I don’t think a story like TLOTR or TWOT should be told that way but I’m sure there could be less epic fantasy stories that 1st person suits quite well, yeah?
@samtheactualkenku62054 жыл бұрын
I actually enjoy books with a first person perspective, the Dresden Files is a good example of first person in fantasy, but I see where Daniel is coming from
@muhammadhashir61364 жыл бұрын
1st person is great for characters, but doing world building and explaining magic systems and everything is hella difficult. How can u even get others perspectives, not everyone is writing from their perspective. Its like u r reading a diary entry and it gets unrealistic fast. 1st person is way too limited and restricted. U can tell a reader everything using 3rd person and all of a sudden u have so much freedom and u can do anything
@teddyharvester4 жыл бұрын
Swords do not equal medieval. Well said. Dune is tens of thousands of years in the future, and they use swords, because of the way in which technology went, with the lase gun - shield interaction being mutually assured destruction.
@cheddar26483 жыл бұрын
Wheel of Time has enough clues to imply that... it's not long ago. :} _There were some ages where use of the Power itself was lost_
@marceloescamilla88673 жыл бұрын
Man, i love dune's knife fighting. The fact that they got a lot of weird technology but they still kill each other with sharp pieces of metal is awesome.
@aesir1ases643 жыл бұрын
Exactly, people even used light swords a long ass time ago, long before the medieval age!
@Triumph2633 жыл бұрын
@@cheddar2648 Ah but it *is* long ago, it just also happens to simultaneously be the future as well.
@sadfaery2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather had a sword as part of his service weaponry when he was in the army based in Guam during WWII. That was pretty recent.
@Jin111935 жыл бұрын
To those starting WoT, there will be a point in the middle of the series when the plot literally doesn't move/move as quickly for a few books, but stick with it! I've started book 11 now and it is so good!
@Jin111935 жыл бұрын
@@jeremywaters4044 yep! If I didn't have people telling me to keep reading, I really would have given up a long time ago
@THX-bz8bi4 жыл бұрын
What book does the plot that doesnt move forward?
@THX-bz8bi4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice i will start reading the wheel of time soon.
@PalleRasmussen3 жыл бұрын
No, if you have to "stick to it" to book 11, in a series of books of 400- 800 pages, there is something wrong with those books. The first four were great, 5 is fine, 6 is ok, 7- 10 suck and should have been max one book; it just staggers on and on in a downward spiral, to then pick up a bit in the last books. With A New Spring being good.
@PalleRasmussen3 жыл бұрын
If you have to "stick to it" to book 11, in a series of books of 400- 800 pages, there is something wrong with those books. The first four were great, 5 is fine, 6 is ok, 7- 10 suck and should have been max one book; it just staggers on and on in a downward spiral, to then pick up a bit in the last books. With A New Spring being good. As for his detailed descriptions of personalities, they have pros and cons; it makes you understand the author's perception of XXX, but it does not let me form my own perception. Tolkien is the opposite his descriptions are so loose that you form your own customised picture. What Jordan did do well was describing combat.
@xerowon34904 жыл бұрын
Stormlight is love. Airsick lowlander
@nyelbaig4 жыл бұрын
It's okay, he has just not eaten his stew today
@juandavidcafferata75694 жыл бұрын
Llaneros tarados...
@thomasdavies67024 жыл бұрын
toooooo much air
@poffzihavenoidea5314 жыл бұрын
Treekilling wetlander
@TheExplosiveGuy3 жыл бұрын
The next book is almost out, I started rereading the series last week so I'll be refreshed on everything by the time it comes out, lots of reading to do until then. Brandon Sanderson never disappoints. His new Skyward series is amazing as well, I'm amazed he's able to put out so much amazing content, that's a lot to handle mentally.
@Hadrian16165 жыл бұрын
Legend has it Daniel Greene is still calling WoT 'wordy' in his sleep.
@HoneyHeartstrings4 жыл бұрын
I recently started "The Eye of the World". The wordiness has a way of making things feel so much more terrifying than anything you could ever see on television, especially since your imagination is what creates these horrors based on the description that the book gives. I doubt I will ever forget the part of the book that takes place within Shadar Logoth. It still gives me chills thinking about it.
@christianefiorito32049 ай бұрын
Shadar Logoth is epic.
@darkemperor954 ай бұрын
The scene where they are in the Ways and they first encounter Machin Shin was so chilling as well
@ladybocknite51203 жыл бұрын
The more I hear about this series the more I want to read it.
@joncostello84043 жыл бұрын
do it. on book 7 now, not a single regret. excellent and would recommend.
@jacobmerriman92273 жыл бұрын
It is a good series. I read it as a kid and have listened to it several times on audible. Only negative I have is the repetitive explanations at the beginning of each book.
@isaacsmith39983 жыл бұрын
You can definitely try them. Honestly, I don't think they have aged very well. The first book is rough generic and incredibly tropey (to be fair, this might be an example of Seinfeld Isn't Funny Syndrome), and while the series does get better (and then way worse and then better again), you, as a reader, *generally* know exactly what is going to happen next because characters and situations tend to follow classic arch-types, almost to T. They're also dated in their view of gender. The books write women very poorly. Most women main characters in the series are motivated purely (or almost purely) by love for a man and seem to satellite male characters instead of having agency. Additionally, the book works around a twentieth century view of gender that portrays women as these "great unknowable mysteries" and focuses quite a bit on classical gender roles, even in situations and cultures where that may not make sense. Finally, these books are incredibly repetitive. Jordan's writing style involves saying the same few phrases chapter by chapter and using the same, almost copy pasted, descriptions for world building and magic systems throughout his series. It *can* be sort of nice when you're jumping back into the series after a break, but most of the time, it is actually irritating and makes me want to tug my braids sharply and blow out my mustaches. TBH, at the crazy length of the series, I'm not sure WoT is worth the read. You'll certainly get some enjoyment out of it but probably not as much as you would from a more modern series like stormlight archives (IMO obviously). The books just don't hold up all that well anymore. **Wanted to just throw some negatives at the series because everyone is raving about it, and I think there are some real flaws. You've seen the people who absolutely loved it and recommend it. This is just my take.
@joncostello84043 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsmith3998 You put that extremely well. I still respect it as one of the many cornerstones of influence for the genre today. Hearing Sanderson talk about how inspired he was by Robert Jordan and how that has led him to create such stunning chronicles is very satisfying for me and it leads me to respect WoT at the same time as accepting that the tropes and themes most certainly wouldn't sell well in 2021. You made some very good points.
@donaldstewart98732 жыл бұрын
@@isaacsmith3998 B.S. Shut your whole and go back to comics until you're ready for the big kid's section
@Rikativity5 жыл бұрын
My friends and I came up with a clever way to describe Jordan's tendency for wordiness: "If a picture is worth a thousand words, Robert Jordan will use every single one." I'm firmly in "the slog" of book 11, and am feeling it particularly hard. But I can't wait for it to break free and run headlong into the epic and beautiful conclusion I've heard so much about. ❤️
@hick5y5 жыл бұрын
When would you recommend reading the prequel man?... -_-
@Devou55 жыл бұрын
Hicksy fr why didn’t he mention that??
@Loomx55 жыл бұрын
The prequel serves best when read either after Moiraine falls through the door, or at the end of the series. It's not a good introduction to the series as a whole imo.
@Hadrian16165 жыл бұрын
He clearly said to read it after book 10.
@gokbay30575 жыл бұрын
@@Loomx5 dude spoilers. But yes it's not a good introduction. I think reading the series in publishing order makes more sense.
@bhatfield14175 жыл бұрын
@@Loomx5 spoiler lol
@KalRandom5 жыл бұрын
I see so many comments on just starting the Wheel of Time. To all, Welcome to a fantastic world. You will enjoy it.
@jflanagan96964 жыл бұрын
I kind of envy them, getting the emotional highs and lows of the first time read through.
@Khaliljt4 жыл бұрын
Don’t be so certain I must be one of the few who didn’t enjoy it
@enaidealukal92034 жыл бұрын
@@Khaliljt that's unfortunate, but there's no question you're more the exception than the rule on this- its not such a popular series by accident.
@cup1966wow4 жыл бұрын
@@enaidealukal9203 I am book 7 so far and its good but not unbelievable. Start to get really slow with not much happening. I don't think it stands well against Malazan.
@enaidealukal92034 жыл бұрын
@@cup1966wow Malazan isn't a good comparison, since Malazan is terrible. It holds up very well against Malazan, but that isn't saying very much because virtually everything compares favorably to Malazan series.
@_Booksphere_ Жыл бұрын
About 250 pages into the first book and I’m in love with the style already. I love the really descriptive style and, really, the words fly by.
@VerdureAsh4 жыл бұрын
The Wheel of Time completely dominated my early childhood when my father picked up Eye of the World from a secondhand bookstore in 1995. Robert Jordan's series enthralled me and led to me immersing myself in it's rich worldbuilding and amazing characters. Even with the criticisms (gender interactions, constant infodumps)I can't help but find myself re-reading the series at least once annually. It's wonderful to find a content creator as in love with Jordan's work as I am.
@doll_face84312 жыл бұрын
the entire series annually!? that's 14,000 pages! you are a being far beyond my species in intelligence
@miriamuSama Жыл бұрын
What does ‘gender interacttions’ man?
@MetaSynCreta Жыл бұрын
It takes me 6 months almost to the day to get through the audiobooks but I do it every year or 2. It just gets better every time. This year was my 10th(ish) read through 😁
@jakeraught493910 ай бұрын
@@miriamuSamashe thinks it’s problematic to acknowledge that there is a difference between how men interact & how women interact
@harlandeke5 жыл бұрын
I read New Spring first..lol..I bought it at a thrift store for 50 cents. I had never heard of the Wheel of Time till then...best 50 cents I have ever spent.
@turtleanton65395 жыл бұрын
😂😂cool
@craigmcnaughton86194 жыл бұрын
I started with New Spring as well, and I've gotta say it gave me a whole different vibe to the story (at book 6 now) , and I feel it would be different if I had read it after book five but knowing me I'd rather read it first. But it had me falling in love with wheel of time just the same.
@liefbread4 жыл бұрын
@@craigmcnaughton8619 I've noticed a lot of older folk (and most women I know) enjoyed the series more if they read New Spring first. It kind of "shifts the protagonist."
@sackthebastard3 жыл бұрын
Lmao I actually saw New Spring at a Dollar Tree once and was very confused
@SilverMe20044 жыл бұрын
I love the way Robert Jordan described things. it was always in context and part of the story. it wasn't like he was just listing thing
@christopherbratton95444 жыл бұрын
I think the “wordiness” is an asset, not a drawback. The world is so well realized because of the amount of description. I can understand why some people don’t like it, but that’s just personal preference :)
@gijsklaassen88515 жыл бұрын
I'm finishing the eye of the world for the first time today and I really enjoyed it. He does take his time to explain and repeat lots of things, but it's still entertaining enough to keep reading imo :)
@WolfStarbuck2 жыл бұрын
Okay, reading this comment 2 years-ish later... did you manage to finish the series, or did you take a pause around book 6? :)
@justrandomthings81582 жыл бұрын
@@WolfStarbuck (SPOILERS FOR BOOK 6) yo lowkey I stopped and decided to spoil a lot of the end for myself like five freaking chapters before all the good stuff with nynaeve healing the severing and egwene and dumai’s well and stuff. So salty about that but it’s still one of my fave books because of that, I don’t get why people says it slows down? I guess it does but it’s filled with so much stuff
@joshdouglas74585 жыл бұрын
Thank you for being an absolutely genuine personality on KZfaq. I've been watching the platform for over 8 years now and your channel just feels proper. Informed, attentive to the audience and I think we can all tell your doing what you enjoy. Plus your getting people to enjoy reading... Which is just so important imo. Thank you for getting me into WoT as well 😅 my book shelf is looking healthy again and it's only one series! 😳
@hooshyarkarimi95244 жыл бұрын
"One critique is that WoT keeps repeating things and is wordy", "One critique is that WoT keeps repeating things and is wordy", "One critique is that WoT keeps repeating things and is wordy", ...
@jiminianmc4 жыл бұрын
One critique of your critique of the WoT is that your critique of the WoT keeps repeating things and is wordy
@Jasminedesi164 жыл бұрын
@Tom Phelps Yeah I noticed that in ASOIAF too, it becomes really noticeable on multiple readings.
@secondaccount16885 жыл бұрын
WoT audio books got me through grad school and my 90 min commute.
@katieamarsh5 жыл бұрын
The audiobook is so good. I love the readers.
@serareads96125 жыл бұрын
the audios are phenomenal. like EXCEPTIONAL
@mahamadkader4885 жыл бұрын
Same. Love to just chill and listen to them on my 70 min commute
@turtleanton65395 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@turtleanton65395 жыл бұрын
@@mahamadkader488 very cool
@feanaro27125 жыл бұрын
I recently started my third attempt at the series, so this was a really well-timed video. I wouldn’t say I dislike wordiness, but I have found myself skimming in the past when it gets too much, which I felt led to me missing important pieces. My solution this time is to listen to the audiobooks, and that has been such a great experience.
@atinity67493 жыл бұрын
I started listening as an audiobook and I've loved it. Sometimes I drift off and realize I have no idea what was just said. I don't find it wordy tho. And I don't mind repeating information, especially at the beginning of the story. So many characters and places to keep track of... I am now mid way through the first book and I started wondering how old Nynaeve is. She acted like a young woman and all this time I had pictured her as an older woman, kinda like septa Mordane from asoiaf or mother Nenneke from the witcher 😅 Maybe because she's the wisdom so I assumed she old. But no, she is indeed young woman. I'm not sure if it's my fault for not listening or did the book even mention their ages... Guess I'll find out when I'm re-reading them 😄
@Thegreatblazingsun2 жыл бұрын
@@atinity6749 I don't think it says her age but it does say that she's believed to be way to young and pretty to be a proper wisdom ...which is somthing she gets very angry about
@katieamarsh5 жыл бұрын
I’m in my zillionth reread. It’s amazing how much more I love it every time. My husband is on his second reread. It’s such a special bond, it leads to so many inside jokes too. Talking wot with people is the best. I love your channel.
@johngross6884 жыл бұрын
I stopped counting at 13 times. Lol
@stevenseagal99114 жыл бұрын
I've read the eye of the world probably 20+ times, and have read the entire series probably 10+ times since I opened the first book back in 2004. I know nobody who shares my passion for it nor have ever even heard of it. 😢
@johngross6884 жыл бұрын
@@stevenseagal9911 i started reading way before that 24 years ago. And read whole thing over and over each time a new book comes out. And i game while listening to it on auidable lol. Like on 3th ti e throught that. Lol
@stevenseagal99114 жыл бұрын
@@johngross688 yea same here with rereading the series as it came out. I've never really counted but definitely, I've read the early books again and again. This series is probably the longest lasting commitment I've ever made in my life lol couldnt tell you how many hours I've spent immersed in Jordan's world.
@agentq20254 жыл бұрын
Wife got me reading them. She waited until I was done with the 6th book to start her reread. I'm on the 11th now, and she is on the 9th. I'm not a quick reader, but I am loving the series, and we have our own inside jokes too now. I wish I had seen this video before hand. I was looking up a character on Google and accidentally had three pretty big spoilers. Still loving the series though.
@athenassigil58204 жыл бұрын
I've been a longtime fan of Robert Jordan, I remember reading the original novel thinking it was a one off and kind of lotr lite. Boy, was I wrong! When the Great Hunt came out, it drew me in and I never looked back. When Jordan announced his health issues, I figured that a great epic series was done, but with no conclusion. The fact that RJ and his wife had copious notes and had picked this young writer named Brandon Sanderson to complete it..I knew it was in good hands. In my mind, Jordan was the deep south's version of a great American epic fantasist in the tradition of Tolkien, but with a southerner knack for a long winded but satisfying epic adventure. RIP Robert Jordan, your contribution to fantasy is as deep as your series was long.
@ChiIIChief5 жыл бұрын
“Hello my beautiful wonderful children.” Does that mean we should officially call you “Daddy Daniel” Now?
@mischa26434 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU MY MOTHER?
@tylerrobbert28715 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel. Thanks again for all the quality content. I officially finished my first full read through of the Wheel of Time last night! Really appreciate all you do, as now I have so many more series on my TBR coming up it's hard to choose where to go next.
@nibblitman5 жыл бұрын
I would recommend Eye of The World as a good place to go next.
@tylerrobbert28715 жыл бұрын
@@nibblitman I genuinely do want to do a re-read now to pick up on everything I missed or was ignorant to as a first time reader. I think I'll take a break before jumping right back in, though!
@jeremywaters40445 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's on your TBR, but more Brandon Sanderson is a safe jumping place from WoT. I'd go with Mistborn (starting with The Final Empire) for a fast paced trilogy with a different feel, or even Elantris or Warbreaker if you're wanting a single volume story. The Emperor's Soul is a great short story/novella if you're wanting a very quick, great palette cleanser.
@tylerrobbert28715 жыл бұрын
@@jeremywaters4044 Absolutely. Plenty of Sanderson on my list. I've got my eye on both Mistborn and Stormlight. Also got the likes of Lightbringer, Kingkiller, and Malazan on my shelf too. Once I finish up New Spring I'll probably delve a little further into the Witcher before the adaptation drops, but from there it will likely be Sanderson next.
@anthonynunez88614 жыл бұрын
I was introduced to the wheel of time in jail only read the 6th book so far but it was beautifully written.The amout of details is amazing blew my freakin mind
@Thegreatblazingsun2 жыл бұрын
I was also introduced while incarcerated...its pretty popular among inmates I guess...probably because it is so long & time consuming ...and fantastic ...I hated The amazon series
@dmt333911 ай бұрын
A comment about the wordiness of the series. Jordan writes a lot like mystery writer and there are many clues about what and who hidden among the details. Also, there are several matrix moments in the books, when you read it a second time you find yourself going "Oh, so that's why...." more than once. Great series, Sanderson did a great job finishing the books but I can definitely tell when he starts writing.
@WisecrackJax5 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you did this. I just finished Oathbringer and was considering Wheel of Time despite how daunting it feels. This must be some kind of sign. Guess it’s decided. Thanks, dude!
@beccak14505 жыл бұрын
Helllo you beautiful wonderful man. The amount of videos you are cranking out at the moment is making me so happy, I can’t imagine what it’s going to be like when you’re full time ON THE 20th!! RIP Robert Jordan
@taylxn5 жыл бұрын
i just started WoT this week, thank you so much for this video
@eduardoo315 жыл бұрын
I finally finished book 14 last night after 3 months of nonstop reading. Thank you so much, Daniel, for introducing me to this amazing world. I laughed, I cried (oh so much), and I can honestly say my life has changed for the better. I can't wait for the show to be released!!
@katieamarsh5 жыл бұрын
You’ll just die on reread when you find all the little hints and other things that are in the early books that come to fruition later. It will blow your mind and cement your love of the series.
@victor_7345 жыл бұрын
Eduardo Oliveira you read all the 14 books in 3 months?!
@eduardoo315 жыл бұрын
@@victor_734 yeah! The only other book I read during this time was Shadow and Bone, though, so I pretty focused.
@KubuntuYou3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the fold.
@jordananderson27283 жыл бұрын
"He wanted to focus on the human elements" Yes, like arm crossing, braid tugging, and loud sighing. Very human.
@Extraxi2745 жыл бұрын
I always thought about it was more post apocalyptic fantasy. Glad to hear ur going full time.
@DanielGreeneReviews5 жыл бұрын
Arcadius that is what it technically is. But I get screamed at for spoilers every time I say that so I didn’t say it in this video.
@skizzit5 жыл бұрын
Post post apocalyptic is more accurate but that could maybe be considered a spoiler?
@Extraxi2745 жыл бұрын
@@skizzit not reall LOTR could be considered the same and nobody would say that a spiller.
@joshbrucks4 жыл бұрын
As the world has mostly recovered i dont think post apocolyptic fits much. Its more the eve of another apocolypse and trying to stop it. Also how can something in the prologue of book 1 be a spoiler?
@THX-bz8bi3 жыл бұрын
Im having trouble understanding that to as i couldn't tell whether the series had a futuristic past then transitioned to a renaissance-like world.
@donnaaldrich88652 жыл бұрын
I love how wordy and dense this series is! I’m tired of the 200 page books missing all the depths
@JZETH_5 жыл бұрын
I agree with everything here. The wordiness got me at the beginning but once I got through 100 pages of book 1, I was LOCKED IN.
@KingBowserVlog3 жыл бұрын
@Will M same here. It managed to keep me pretty engaged throughout those first chapters but I was not expecting that Trolloc attack
@KingBowserVlog3 жыл бұрын
@Will M thanks
@Gropemygrizzly4 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you, this was or I think was my uncle's favorite series I remember seeing all the books he had growing up, he passed away a couple months back but it never occurred to me to pick it up until I stumbled upon your channel looking for a series to read. I wish I had found it sooner so I could talk to him about, but I digress anyway I'm on book 2 and I'm enjoying it alot, thank you and thank the algorithm for leading me to your channel.
@danielvanrooyen96025 жыл бұрын
Sorry did not get that, was it book 6 or 7 for New Spring? But seriously good timing on this video, will start Eye of the World on Monday.
@gokbay30575 жыл бұрын
You are in for a ride my friend.
@kaladin17925 жыл бұрын
Rly good timing. Ordered it yesterday and its arriving tommorw.
@revan08905 жыл бұрын
After five.
@kevinmcgervey93633 жыл бұрын
Just started at the beginning of quarantine, did not realize how many books there are. Am very excited
@joshhoffman52333 жыл бұрын
I’m on book 3 and I love the series so far. And I am no scaredy cat of density but in the first book, in the beginning, after Lewes Therin lightning blasts the place and it’s just Rand and Tam and the villagers preparing for winter night I almost didn’t make it. It was killing me. Now it goes quickly even though it’s still hella wordy. But man talk about slow starting. That was bad.
@Lightning_Lance5 жыл бұрын
Oh, huh. I'm glad you showed that graph. I've been feeling intimidated about starting new book series and how much time might go into that, but now I know I've already read the two biggest ones that's actually really helpful ^^
@MerrilyKristin5 жыл бұрын
I’m currently reading Eye of the World and loving it! I’m reading it so much slower than my normal reading pace, but I just don’t want to miss anything!
@sullyb235113 жыл бұрын
R.I.P., Mr. Jordan. Thank you for the stories.
@davidspice39074 жыл бұрын
I recently started listening to the audiobook for the wheel of time series and it is soooo good. I had been told it was good before and had heard of it from multiple people but never gave it a try. My dad even told me it was his favorite book series and I think he had the first book when I was younger. But I’m so glad I started listening to it.
@CapturedInWords5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, a lot of great information for people just diving into the series! Your Stormlight Archive Lore Deep Dive is now one of my most anticipated videos, can't wait to watch it! You should seriously let people know when to read New Spring though, c'mon.
@thepocketboy5 жыл бұрын
My wife just started book 2 :) liking it so far. Suggestion - deep dive into history and structure of the enemy. That could include dark friends, black ajah and the monster creations (like why and how they are created and the implications)
@SRosenberg2035 жыл бұрын
That would be a cool video
@TacticusPrime3 жыл бұрын
Quote from Jim Butcher, author of the Dresden Files, in 2012 "Hah, work on an existing IP? I think Sanderson was the next best thing to crazy to take up The Wheel of Time. It doesn’t matter what he writes, there are going to be fanatic readers who are /furious/ at him. That’s just the simple truth. I loved his answer when I asked him why he did it, though: it amounted to “I loved the story and wanted it to be done right, and I knew that I would.” That’s intensely cool, right there. That’s rock star. When the game’s on the line, winners want the ball."
@JoySongDesigns2 жыл бұрын
I am on my third reading… one in text and two on audible… again Kate Reading & Michael Kramer are the quintessential voices for ALL the characters. I am blown away by their ability to sound like so many different people!
@jaredmacintyre69708 ай бұрын
whats a better experience the audiobook or reading. not sure what to approach with
@JoySongDesigns8 ай бұрын
@@jaredmacintyre6970 - I’m a fiber artist, and I do anything having to do with fabric or yarn or whatever so I like the audiobooks… Depending on the narrator, it is more entertaining for me and I can do my work at the same time. Kate and Michael are two of the best, and there are many others who are really, really good. I’ve been a member of Audible since they started and have never once regretted it.
@skizzit5 жыл бұрын
Over descriptive? I guess but I grew up reading Michael Crichton. Jordan doesn't have anything on Crichton's sometimes multi-page dives into complex scientific and technical descriptions. As a long time reader, but someone pretty new to Fantasy, a huge thank you! Your channel is pretty much solely responsible for me starting WoT. I am about 2/3rds of the way through book 4 and loving it.
@phantasmalemperor88875 жыл бұрын
Crichton's over description is one of the things I love about jurrasic park.
@SRosenberg2035 жыл бұрын
@@phantasmalemperor8887 Same
@ryanpatrick18755 жыл бұрын
Crichton was a very smart man. He wrote like a very smart man who made sure everyone knew how smart he was by his insane detail work. He put in the effort and reader be damned if they didn't think he was going to make sure they knew how much research he did. It's great.
@erwinfelis46135 жыл бұрын
I would much rather prefer someone being a little wordy by describing the scientific details of something than someone being wordy by having characters that are obsessed with gender and bitch about the opposite gender for hundreds of pages with little plot development. That's what you get with Robert Jordan. He would be a brilliant writer if not for doing that.
@timidalchemist84755 жыл бұрын
@@erwinfelis4613 when were the characters obsessed with genders? They acted reasonable to what was going on in their current events. That sorta conflict that WoT had still applies to today with the amount of SJW's and extreme feminist. I saw a twitter post about how men treat women like dolls, but the poster hated that because she sees her gender being more stronger than men. That's the stuff Jordan did way before the whole modern issues. It may not be the best written characters in fiction, but they are certainly the best in fantasy due to how subtle their actions/motives are.
@Brandon77maniaci5 жыл бұрын
I started the WOT two months ago on a recommended video of your and now I’m on book 10. Really enjoying it so far. Thanks!
@melaniev94465 жыл бұрын
New fan to the channel, but long time WoT fan (about 23 years lol) and while I've had tons of my own opinions over the years watching your channel has inspired me to do something differently. I've also read the series well over 6 times before, however yeah I often skipped parts I felt eh what's the point again? Well you've gotten my hype for the TV show up and inspired me to do a reread the books with a focus on the details trying to imagine how it all can be interpreted for the show. And while I may only be 60% into EotW but holy crap the things I have noticed and realized! Won't go into it, spoilers and such, but let's just say we the fanbase have actually (probably accidentally) done a disservice to the world of WoT through our misconceptions and interpretations. I've come across so many hints already that goes against so much I previously thought, largely because of the fan community and our joint opinions. My mind is constantly blown, which is a truly fun experience right now.
@jeremywaters40445 жыл бұрын
Every time I reread I get blown away by something new. You may have just inspired me.....
@JoelAdamson4 жыл бұрын
Some of the repetition is due to the books coming out 12 to 24 to 36 months apart, and you have to remember they started coming out in 1990, when books were not as easy to get. Often you couldn't get book 1 even at a library: I know people who started reading at Book 3, and only read Book 1 later.
@dig86343 жыл бұрын
I will never understand this mindset. It's one of the most annoying things about anime too. "People can't remember what happened last time or might have missed what happened, so let's add a permanent stain on the quality of this work so people can easily catch up" Really nice for when you actually follow a story as it comes out and it isn't really front and center of your mind while waiting, or for people who jump right in whenever, but sometimes really horrible for the finished product as a whole.
@chillsahoy26402 жыл бұрын
And some of the repetition is equivalent to the "Previously..." in TV shows. Perhaps a bit silly at times, but if you've been reading other books in between it is easy to forget details of how the magic system works, or whether the weight of a mountain should be compared to death or to duty.
@Rika243 жыл бұрын
The fact that it’s third person is a big selling point for me, I HATE first person (yet strangely I put Prey as one of my favorite books of all time lol). Got the first book and plan to read soon :)
@chillsahoy26402 жыл бұрын
I like that it combined the best of both worlds. It is third person, but Jordan as the narrator often used subjective elements, expressions, opinions relevant to the character whose point of view we're taking. This is particularly obvious with chapters told from Mat's point of view. There is one chapter in The Great Hunt told from the perspective of a character whose identity we don't know at the time, yet you immediately get a sense of who they are because of the language the narrator uses during that chapter, descriptions which use adjectives and expressions you'd associate with someone arrogant and full of themselves. This style of writing helps you truly understand the characters, and it shows that both Jordan and Sanderson understood the PoV characters so well that they could tell you a lot about them just through idiosyncrasies and their unique ways of expressing themselves.
@SStoj2 жыл бұрын
I always saw WoT as set in the late medieval kind of era, and only just starting to crawl out of it into a renaissance level of tech with gunpowder based weaponry being invented about half way through the series (through the involvement of several key characters), but the kind of gunpowder that's still mainly just big cannons, not yet rifles. Kind of just approaching the period where traditional medieval armies became pike and shot with those cumbersome hand cannons you needed to lug around and set up on a forked stick to fire properly.
@riverrr113 жыл бұрын
King killer chronicles seriously so good and yet ... here we all wait
@dischordsedi2055 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for your stormlight vids! As always W.o.T. is just perfect too.
@officerluigi35275 жыл бұрын
I’m currently reading Lord of Chaos and honestly, Wheel of Time is my favorite book series so far. I’m so glad I found your channel (pun intended). It’s great to know that there are other people who are incredibly enthusiastic about the series. Whenever I talk about WoT with my friends, they usually have no clue what I’m on about and it becomes very disheartening after a while. I’m loving your videos, especially since they are a great guide for pronunciations because I was way off on quite a few things. Thanks again for all your hard work!
@DeepMoon455 жыл бұрын
I love it when you do these types of videos so much! I've already started WOT but I'm still only at the very beginning and I'm struggling with it, these videos where you go into depth and explain why it's so beloved really help give me more motivation to continue it as I really want to get into this series. I'm almost halfway into EOTW and there is a lot that just itches me the wrong way but I'm remaining hopeful as I want to see this progress into a truly great Fantasy story for me
@black1blade745 жыл бұрын
Exactly how I felt a couple months ago but my reading rate has grown and grown!!
@isabelladeane48854 жыл бұрын
Halfway through book three, but clicked out of curiosity. Brilliant info and tips!! Especially about googling!!! You are doing a great job and thank you for making a daunting reading endeavour feel even more worth it!
@Mondian4 жыл бұрын
No mention of tongue clicking, skirt smoothing, or braid tugging? Inconceivable! Dunno how the algorithm knew I read WOT and suggested this, but I watched it and hey its a nice video man, I hope it gets people into the series. My only critique would be your praise of Sanderson. He did a fine job of wrapping up a story with a nearly infinite number of dangling plot threads and I absolutely love his Stormlight archive, but man... he practically lobotomized Mat and I will never forgive doing that to my favorite character.
@stevenseagal99114 жыл бұрын
Agreed about mat, such a shame. And same here, I've only been reading the series for half my life, own several copies of each book, but today in 2019 youtube decides to recommend it..
@badday48855 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, but when would you recommend reading a New Spring?
@Ben-xj2rf5 жыл бұрын
bad day? Not really many major spoilers but I’d still recommend publication order, so after book 10.
@loreleyzambrano78565 жыл бұрын
I too would like to know when to read New Spring. I can't believe he's never answered this before! :O
@nicolasbsmith782 жыл бұрын
I'm 43 yrs old and I love this series so far, but if i would have started it in my 20s I would not have had the patience for all the descriptive work. But I appreciate that work now because there's so much info to take in, so give it to me over and over again so I can get it! 😅
@deed0h6 ай бұрын
just started the series after hearing you talk about it in one piece videos. i cant believe i didnt get into this story earlier but thanks for intro-ing me to this new adventure!
@jbrock73944 жыл бұрын
Hey Daniel thank you for the introduction to this series. I’m psyched that I was able to get the whole series with the newer cover art as the series symbol. Also - thank you for the tidbit on note taking with this series; I’m looking forward to it. Keep up the great work! -Peace
@rayraffiki18565 жыл бұрын
Jack Churchill fought in World War 2 with a broadsword and a long bow. His story is really interesting to read.
@yeahbee82375 жыл бұрын
MAD Jack for a reason
@kaoticgoodkate3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your genuine enthusiasm for this series. I’m starting it the day after tomorrow, wish me luck
@luksc.a.23535 жыл бұрын
You have south americans subscribers too! Brazil here! Very very fan of your job, thank you for everything.
@aaroncrilly20055 жыл бұрын
I only started the wheel of time a month ago, I love it so far
@WoWhunter0075 жыл бұрын
Have fun! Just don't. Google. Anything.
@filipequintas52995 жыл бұрын
@@WoWhunter007 im on the 5th book and its hard not to, believe me
@KalRandom5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Wheel of Time. I started it in 91 and have re-read it several times, it's a great world to go to.
@charlestruppi77935 жыл бұрын
On book 10 and started in May. Doing about a book a week.
@2014Altair5 жыл бұрын
@@charlestruppi7793 damn you have some reading skills
@VillaDish4 жыл бұрын
I cant wait to see how they use different accents in the TV show
@joshuastclairmusic4 жыл бұрын
I love how your previous videos are not ‘old videos’ per say, but that as I progress in my Wheel of Time journey, more and more of your videos become unlocked and I can finally watch them!
@Bama67744 жыл бұрын
Just throwing this out there. As someone who does NOT enjoy the repetition of descriptions, just... skip it. If you find yourself reading something that you already know, then scan through. Do NOT let this keep you from reading one of the absolutely best fantasy series ever created. If you don't want to scan, then don't. Push yourself through. Don't deny yourself this not only gem of a story, but the whole freaking mine that the gem comes from. It's... simply... amazing.
@nufvcosta4 жыл бұрын
Before reading, the main thing you need to know: keep an eye out for matrim cauthon. Best character.
@michael305m34 жыл бұрын
I’m on the 10th book and he’s been my favorite since the 5th one, after the first few books he seems like the only truly sane one left and he gives a fresh perspective to the story
@unknown31583 жыл бұрын
Moiraine's my favourite, and that is not gonna change any time soon. But, I do like Mat as well, and Perrin too, Rand on the other hand, I actually want Moridin to wipe the floor with him, just to teach him a lesson (I am on book 8 btw).
@aysseralwan3 жыл бұрын
Agree Mat, Perrin and Loial are the GOATs
@harrycoleman7275 жыл бұрын
Please apply this to other series! (LoTR, Stormlight, Kingkiller (😈), Mistborn etc)
@----sus----5 жыл бұрын
Why this emoji for Kingkiller
@harrycoleman7275 жыл бұрын
@@----sus---- Ayyyyyy! The man himself! 😂😂😂 It's because Daniel is kinda famous for not liking Kingkiller and it's become a meme at this point.
@droppedwaffle2425 жыл бұрын
what... i... do here...... Daniel, you say this line when you talk about your patreon literally every single time, and you say it the exact same way every time as well. it kind of drives me mad , but at the same time i love it so please oh please dont stop! dont ever stop!
@antonioiglesias20315 жыл бұрын
Bring on the spoilers, not worried about them at all... that's why I'm on a WOT discussion channel LOL. I became interested in this series from the WOTC role-playing game nearly 20 years ago. I only got through The Great Hunt though, cause you know life happened. I'm so glad to get back to this and appreciate your channel, and others, for sparking my interest in this again. Looking forward to this re-start. Although, I am beginning with New Spring cause I Googled and it has some of my fave characters in it. Again, not worried about spoilers cause it doesn't take away from my enjoyment of a well crafted story. Looking forward to more from you Daniel, thank you!
@fthoodgijoe3 жыл бұрын
The strongest argument for how well Jordan wrote cultures is the sheer number of LGBTQ characters woven throughout the narrative. The subtlety and nuance he employed in the exploration of their lived experiences, and how those experiences shaped their interactions with the world around them - not to mention their impact on the plot - truly makes the reader wonder if they’re even really there, at all.
@MissMokate4 жыл бұрын
ahahah I heard that stretched "hello my beautiful-" and I was half-expecting it to end in "-watchers". I've seen too many Dom's videos
@Purriah Жыл бұрын
Fantasy readers be like: “heads up, books 4 through 6 are kind of slow but it really picks up again at book 9! I’m currently on book 36 and I’m so sad I only have 58 to go after that! It’s such a good series!”
@JJSolon5 жыл бұрын
Just finished The Dragon Reborn. Loving this series so far. I was overwhelmed by the length of series, but just decided jumped in and am enjoying the ride. Grew up with Lord of the Rings, so I don’t mind the long description and the repetition explanation of magic system. Love your channel. Keep up the good work.
@NotAllBooksSmellNice3 жыл бұрын
I can not stress enough how right he is about avoiding Google in case of spoilers. Wanted a quick reminder of which of the brother Gawayn was between Him and Galad after having an extended break in reading. Let's just say something popped up that I spent weeks trying to forget.
@hristovapostol4 жыл бұрын
Ordered the first book few hours ago, been researching about these books, I’m pretty excited!
@troytaylor82252 жыл бұрын
I joined your followers when you started one piece and you got me interested in WOT. I’m 6 days and half way into the first book. I’m already hooked and I love it big world building is not a problem for me
@Trassik3 жыл бұрын
I haul RV's around the US. Can't read a book while driving, so I use my library card and subscribe to audiobooks. I'd read all of Robert Jordan's 'Wheel' books in an earlier age and didn't look forward to reading someone else's attempt at finishing the series. Seems like I stopped for about a decade. I just finished the audiobook version starting from 12. Was superbly read by Kate Reading and Michael Kramer, and wonderfully crafted by Mr. Sanderson and Robert Jordan(through his notes). Hats off to Mr. Sanderson on stretching the story out - not too much, just enough to "tie off all the threads" - using well the work from 'the source' of the series, Robert Jordan.
@Marco_Onyxheart5 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely for more Lightbringer lore. But more Brandon Sanderson is never a bad thing.
@AlecDenholm4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed WoT but 'wordy and repetitious' is an understatement, there were whole books which could have been abridged to a single chapter without losing anything of value. Like a thousand page novel of filler episode. Anyway probably a good overview, I've never seen that comparison of word count before, and that really drives home the point. Pratchett wrote like 40 something books in fewer words than WoT used in 14, yet each of Pratchett's are full stories in a rich universe. Kinda feel like a good editor could have cut WoT's word count in half without sacrificing any plot whatsoever.
@balir314 жыл бұрын
you are the devil!
@ChristmasLore4 жыл бұрын
@Aaron , sharing the same sentiment. And I'm a seasoned reader, appreciative of Malazan's series, Dune (Canon, by Herbert himself), R.Bakker, Abercrombie...etc ( it's become impossible to be exhaustive by now). I might give a try to the last books co-written by Sanderson, by curiosity and for my "general culture". It is one of the few "most read" series I never really gave a chance, way too bored by the first books or so.
@x.caity.x47353 жыл бұрын
right, but you cant really complain:) in germany there are 37 books
@isaacs57312 жыл бұрын
Never heard of wheel of time before I started watching your channel almost exactly a year ago when looking for stormlight content. Just started the Eye of the World yesterday
@charlestruppi77935 жыл бұрын
On book 10 and can’t stop reading these. Amazing books, yes even the “slog”. BTW, I love the deep, detailed dive into the cultures and other things in the lore. As for the Google comment, I would recommend the WoT Compendium app. You can search a character, and filter through specific book and it gives you a chapter by chapter synopsis of that character in that book. No need to worry about spoilers if you just can’t remember what that character did before.
@jeremywaters40445 жыл бұрын
That's great advice. The index at the back of each book is also a good spoiler free reference for the book it's contained in.
@zadig084 жыл бұрын
I just started the third book in the series and just happened to bump into this channel out of nowhere. Thanks a bunch! Guess I know what to do after I read book 5. The only thing I've found off-putting so far is that the three boys have gone through so much, and they are still refusing to accept their new reality.
@thedarkonestaint61055 жыл бұрын
When reading other stories besides WoT, I never feel like I'm getting enough info dumps haha
@manthelorian41633 жыл бұрын
i love your "Tony & Ezekiel" sketch. that was golden
@nothanks12392 жыл бұрын
I really want to read the wheel of time series, but I have never been a lover of repetition of descriptions. So, I'm a bit apprehensive. But, I really want to fall in love with a new book series, and this series is so clearly loved.
@Artur-bl3gn5 жыл бұрын
Ahh... the Riftwar Cycle. Good old books.
@BrunoFernanshSZN3 жыл бұрын
Yupppppp, GOOD OL’ BOOKS
@bryson26625 жыл бұрын
Malazan is quite a bit longer though when you include the non BotF books, even if you only include works by Erikson himself.
@DanielGreeneReviews5 жыл бұрын
Bryson Bennett I was under the impression those were a different author and were not apart of the main series at all? Just in the same world. Hense why I would count it separately. It’s a different story. Though that is highly debatable
@captainwilhelm96575 жыл бұрын
@@DanielGreeneReviews I've only read the first two of Esselmont but while the first book is largely standalone the second book continues a plot thread from book of the fallen and a major thing with the Malazan Empire happens at the end of the 2nd Esselmont book and from what I understand the 4th Esselmont book is a direct sequel to the 8th book in BotF.
@disorientedkiwi79845 жыл бұрын
Daniel Greene The best comparison to it is the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Think of the main series as the Avengers with the surrounding series as the rest of MCU. The “main” conflict happens in the Book of the Fallen but background and smaller plot threads will occur in the side books
@bryson26625 жыл бұрын
@@DanielGreeneReviews Ian C Esselmont's (ICE) books have new and old characters and his books often heavily tie into the "main" BotF series. They it course are not necessary to enjoy but that's why I said even only including Erikson's work (BotF + Karkanas books) is longer than WoT. The Karkanas books take place hundreds of thousands of years before BotF but is mostly characters we already know. It's a Shakespearean tragedy about the Tiste people and Mother Dark and it's absolutely beautiful. Also Erikson is almost finished with the first book in a new trilogy that is a sequel to BotF and he's confirmed many characters returning in that too.
@reetisarkar3925 жыл бұрын
@@DanielGreeneReviews Well if it's a comparison between WoT and Malazan, I'd definitely say Kharkanas, Return of Crimson Guard, Witness trilogy etc are all as much a part of Malazan as New Spring is a part of Wheel of Time. Kharkanas in fact is basically a prequel before the Book of the Fallen occurs. And Kharkanas and Witness are by Steven Erikson.
@tjwied5 жыл бұрын
I put down the series for 6 months and was able to jump right back in thanks to Jordans nice reminders
@mattkrause15735 жыл бұрын
Just started The Great Hunt. Took forever to finish Eye. I think the middle leading to the ending was slogging along. But now the ending of 1 and starting book 2 here....the prologue pulled me BACK IN!! Yea getting pumped now.
@Raylen_Fa-ield4 жыл бұрын
Middle of book 4 is where the stories ramp up like you couldn't believe.
@KingBowserVlog3 жыл бұрын
Book 2 is really awesome, imo. So much stuff happens in that book and it's such a weird but cool way to follow up the EotW
@g4fly4ever85 жыл бұрын
Just before I watched the video by 10 minutes I wondered "did Danial made any video about how to start The Wheel Of Time" Such a coincidence
@thomasdorries33945 жыл бұрын
I feel like Brandon did a better finish than Jordan could, no disrespect to the great man. Jordan was really good at setting stories and Brandon writes very cinematically so it felt much more real and intense than Jordan saying how shiny their sword are.
@danoenco94875 жыл бұрын
My wife and I agreed that Sanderson "breathed new life" into the series. Mat went from very funny to pants-wettingly hilarious!
@Gunleaver5 жыл бұрын
@@danoenco9487 The jokes about Mat were tired & out of character. Sanderson just threw nonsense out there, like Mat's illiterate letter to Elayne, when we knew from Jordan's books that he's perfectly capable of writing a coherent note. And Sanderson does this stupid thing where he has one character say to another "Did you just..." about whatever they said, just so you don't miss what Sanderson thinks was so amazing. It's the literary equivalent of saying "Get it? Get it?" after telling a joke.
@Gunleaver5 жыл бұрын
Except Sanderson would write half a page of dialogue to establish that the sword was, indeed, shiny. His characters didn't discuss events like they were talking about their own lives, they discussed them like Wheel of Time fans talking about the series. Which I suppose makes a bit of sense, since Sanderson dumped Jordan's rich world full of background characters to insert mis-spelled names of his friends in the fan community. Rather than feel like the characters were moving through a world we knew, it felt like they were being introduced to Sanderson's buddies. Jordan's descriptions of characters at war and suffering trauma felt real, even if it wasn't neat or clean. Sanderson's depictions of the same were pure fan service. Trauma that you overcame in an instant after an intense conversation, and were never bothered by again. Battles that were nothing more than descriptions of units moving back and forth (and back and forth some more) on a map. Jordan needed zero maps with arrows to convey his battles, but Sanderson needed them to show that basically the two sides in the battle were taking, losing and retaking the same hill over and over again. Jordan had characters win political victories by leveraging power and motives to get people to agree to what they want. Sanderson had a character overcome legislative recalcitrance by having people wander into a meeting and say "What are we voting for?" Another replies "Something important," and the newcomers say "Oh, okay, we'll vote yes!" And a second later, another character screams, "Wait, we've just voted to give (the hero) all the things!" That is LITERALLY what happened in the most important political scene in Sanderson's three books. It's a classic example of Roger Ebert's 'idiot plot'. All Sanderson did was (badly) describe things Jordan decided were going to happen, except he couldn't figure out how to get there without butchering a lot of characters' behavior and motivations. I'm glad you liked the action, because Wheel of Time deserves to be remembered as a great series, rather than the travesty it became in Sanderson's hands.
@danoenco94875 жыл бұрын
@@Gunleaver Good points, see where you're coming from. I personally saw the note as an example of Mat's refusal to act like a lord. The grammatical errors may not have been necessary for the joke, but it did make me laugh harder. I guess that old Latin saying applies here-- that in taste, there can be no argument
@Gunleaver5 жыл бұрын
@@danoenco9487 Yeah, but that's complete and total character assassination. That's sacrificing everything that's established about the character for a cheap laugh. Mat might write a sarcastic note, but he won't sabotage something important over an issue of pique. That's why Elayne is so receptive to working with him in that scene, because he offered her his medallion even when he had a reason to be pissed at her for her mocking him about Tylin. In the hands of Jordan, Mat & Elayne were two of the funniest characters, because they smart (two of the smartest in the series, actually), not because they were dumb. Mat & Elayne in the same room can be comic gold, and it has nothing to do with them hating each other's superficial presentation, but those laughs are not sufficiently obvious for Sanderson. So he'll fall back on Elayne rolling her eyes at Mat's uncouth ways and Mat disrespecting her rank, even though both characters have moved past that and learned to appreciate each other.
@TiroDvD3 жыл бұрын
This series helped me help my sister pick out her wedding dress.
@Elena-tz9ev3 жыл бұрын
HoW?
@BattleBornCowboy4 жыл бұрын
I liked the over describing and long winded chapters in the Wheel of Time. It reminds me of my youth and reading the Council of Elrond from the Fellowship of the Ring. Robert Jordan gave imagination a direction with all of his descriptions.
@coltonaallen5 жыл бұрын
The Wheel of Time is... ..."Wordy" -Greene Daniel
@lizwoloszyn19395 жыл бұрын
....funny thing is, I never thought that was a problem...
@mitchellwhitaker96273 жыл бұрын
In your defense, he lives on so strongly in my heart I still sit waiting for the next installment
@iGuttsi4 жыл бұрын
Almost done with book 12, but i still wanted to watch this, from one Green to another Greene, thanks man.
@adityah823 жыл бұрын
I was a teenager in 90s when I came across New Spring in my local library. I just loved the book. I thought it was a nice series, but my local library did not have any other books of the series. Over time I forgot of the book and the title, just remembered Lan. I thought he would be the main character in the series. I came across the series by accident on KZfaq, while I was checking on Stormlight. The series is brilliant and contrary to your advice I had already read the New Spring.