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Terrible Writing Advice

Terrible Writing Advice

7 жыл бұрын

Starting a story is easy! Just drown the reader in so much info dumping and exposition that they can’t possibly escape! Once the reader is stuck, then trap them in a web of flashbacks, in medias res, and prologues. They will never escape then and will be forced to read the rest of your story. Don’t forget to use a mirror to describe how the main character looks!
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@lampgirl100
@lampgirl100 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget to begin with the main character complaining about their day to day life. Readers love reading about petty complaints.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
The day began with the distant rumble and flash of an atomic explosion just over the horizon...and went down hill from there... not a good day for decaf
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 3 жыл бұрын
Cat Whisk I mean, i imagine anything can be done well, if you can make it
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 жыл бұрын
666 like! Also yeah
@fahmid6403
@fahmid6403 3 жыл бұрын
Bro are you ironic or are you serius?
@fahmid6403
@fahmid6403 3 жыл бұрын
Bc this begin is good , but a lot of writers use it
@winterlarsime9938
@winterlarsime9938 7 жыл бұрын
Not to make the wattpad joke again, but this is totally something people on Wattpad needs
@panicatthefallout7710
@panicatthefallout7710 7 жыл бұрын
Winter Anime I actually critique Wattpad stories. let me tell you, they need these videos.
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 7 жыл бұрын
I think Wattpad is beyond help unfortunately, but almost every other online story site (mostly original, but some fanfics too) could benefit from this.
@user-cq1cw8xz7f
@user-cq1cw8xz7f 7 жыл бұрын
I'm writing on wattpad and after bingewatching all episodes I can say... so far I'm safe
@gonzaminator530
@gonzaminator530 7 жыл бұрын
I legit linked his channel to a community post, where someone was asking about how to avoid cliches. Wattpad is plagued by bad writing, mary sues and cliches. It's painful how many wattpad users take pride in writing awful cliches as well. My problem with it is that I feel like people admit to not putting effort into their stories, and don't strive to use their creativity but just use a cliche instead and sloppily write a mary sue story.
@ZKP314
@ZKP314 7 жыл бұрын
Out of a sense of morbid curiosity, how did they take those videos in comparison with their own writing?
@cryptidcreates9942
@cryptidcreates9942 6 жыл бұрын
I'm proud of myself. My first sentence: "It's easier to pull the trigger if you look away."
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
the fury of angry chipmunks had always been one of his greatest fears...and then he encountered a scurry of bi-polar squirrels...despite being a eunuch, he had reasons to be concerned.
@samfeels5608
@samfeels5608 4 жыл бұрын
"No one will notice if there's no one TO notice"
@NoOne-yp8ot
@NoOne-yp8ot 4 жыл бұрын
"It all began when I borrowed a chainsaw from my grandmother’s boyfriend, because that’s when I received the letter."
@janapangcobellia9580
@janapangcobellia9580 4 жыл бұрын
If I escape the war everything's gonna be fine. Besides I'm not the chosen one etcetera
@wooyeah1738
@wooyeah1738 4 жыл бұрын
“April Wilson went to school and had a perfect day with her sister, brother, and all her friends. Haha, sorry, nope.”
@tzisorey
@tzisorey 6 жыл бұрын
Best story opening EVER: "Hi, I'm Edward, and I'm the linebacker in our college team - I'm a 6'11 blonde beefcake with a huge 10 inch d***, and here I am at my 18th birthday. Oh, did I mention I'm also the reincarnation of Merlin?" I wish I could count how many times I've read a story that started like that. Honestly, they're probably not *all* terrible....but with an opening like that, I'm not going to find out.
@LoveBug-pw4vu
@LoveBug-pw4vu 4 жыл бұрын
I mean... if it really opened like that, my attention is captured.
@anthonytorres-cruz1598
@anthonytorres-cruz1598 4 жыл бұрын
@@LoveBug-pw4vu I would just see where it goes.
@angelsparkles3575
@angelsparkles3575 4 жыл бұрын
💀
@erinyes3943
@erinyes3943 4 жыл бұрын
Hi my name is Ebony Dark’ness Dementia Raven Way and I have long ebony black hair (that’s how I got my name) with purple streaks and red tips that reaches my mid-back and icy blue eyes like limpid tears and a lot of people tell me I look like Amy Lee (AN: if u don’t know who she is get da hell out of here!) :)
@emotapw
@emotapw 3 жыл бұрын
@@erinyes3943 don't u mean ENOBY
@sclair2854
@sclair2854 7 жыл бұрын
I want a story where they wake up and do their daily routine but one thing is out of place. "I woke up, took off my elaborately described Pajamas, and replaced them with my less elaborate outfit. Brushed my teeth. Murdered the traitorous rebel, and then stood in line for my breakfast rations."
@gabrielschirmann7213
@gabrielschirmann7213 7 жыл бұрын
you could write a story where your character wakes up. grabs a brush and puts on a little makeup. hides the scars to fade away the shakeup. then ask why they leave the keys upon the table
@Betterdangaming
@Betterdangaming 6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Schirmann here you go creating another fable
@gabrielschirmann7213
@gabrielschirmann7213 6 жыл бұрын
BetterDanGaming you wanted to
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 5 жыл бұрын
Character wakes then nods off again
@bibbobella
@bibbobella 5 жыл бұрын
"Wait a second!" I shouted loudly to myself as I looked down at the already cold and lifeless body of a former human being "Did I brush my teeth?.." I ask myself before cleaning my mouth slightly with my finger being pretty sure I had done it "Ahh great I hate when my routine is different than usual!" I say with a big bright smile as I step over the now slowly moving and moaning corpse..Ahh what a wonderful monday!
@Andre-zi1gb
@Andre-zi1gb 7 жыл бұрын
Authors should start the story with something unexpected. SPANISH INQUISITION!!!!
@stephenlucas8836
@stephenlucas8836 7 жыл бұрын
Andre the hairitic and the Xinos shall burn
@1001011011010
@1001011011010 7 жыл бұрын
Three and a half centuries' worth, hopefully.
@nohaxmeh576
@nohaxmeh576 7 жыл бұрын
FOR THE EMPRAH!
@moseszero3281
@moseszero3281 7 жыл бұрын
The Mexican Inquisition -- Got to love TeamFourStar
@peterfox1380
@peterfox1380 7 жыл бұрын
*DEUS VULT INTENSIFIES*
@terrancevanliew1814
@terrancevanliew1814 6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing wrong with a setting up a fake main character, so long as you make their death interesting and important.
@somegirl4631
@somegirl4631 5 жыл бұрын
have you tried it? i mean, i read the game of thrones first book, they killed a character that i was invasted in for nothing! in the first 20 pages!!! i felt so fucking cheated. do not read that shit.
@alex-rs6ts
@alex-rs6ts 5 жыл бұрын
Its got, anyone can die
@somegirl4631
@somegirl4631 5 жыл бұрын
@@alex-rs6ts yea but still, after 20 pages? like I was sure that he was the main character, and than he just dies a really stupid death?!?! I felt so cheated!! at least the author sould have saying first things about John snow, than go to the guy that died, than return to snow, so I won't feel like "fuck this crap! fuck everyone! fuck this world! fuck GOT!" and why the fuck every girl in the book has to do sex or rape every 20 pages????? what the hell???? I desperately looked for a character to follow and love and than all I can chose from is a stupid bitch (saina) two brats (forgot their names, the little ones) John that was a complete idiot at first, their big bro that was just a side piece and halisay, now halisay was nice and I loved her.... until her "oh so loving" husband raped her while shes saying how painful it is and instead of getting the fuck outta there she goes and fall in love with her fucking fuck rapist. I hated every fucking character in one book. I have to say, that's a record, all of it's own.... 🤦🏾‍♀️
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
@@somegirl4631 20 pages are not much to the whole story. Also, it depends on how much you connect and project on a protagonist. I am the sort that likes being in third person view watching things happen, so I don't care when a POV character gets killed. On the other hand, you do have a point in that they are not likeable. But it's a big reason why it's such a succesful story, it's shocking in a non standard way.
@somegirl4631
@somegirl4631 5 жыл бұрын
@@LuizAlexPhoenix edit: forget to mention I read well over 100-200 pages in. so I'm not just hating on 20 pages. I couldn't even see the real Mcs in the first 20 pages after all. i mean yea, it's nice and i have actually killed in third person perspective in my first and second ... and almost every fucking novel I have writing (wait, now when I think about it, WTF is wrong with me?!) but there is a certain method how to kill fictional people without making the reader feel cheated. for example- to stick the word "prologue" above so we could get that it's not the main character, or including the main character in this chapter (for example, like what jk Rowling did in Harry Potter) so no one would be like "oh. dambaldor is the mc!" but in game of thrones it was more like: look! this is some cool mc! ops! now he's dead! now look at another mc! ops... now he's on a wheelchair! okay... now for real! look at the real mc! ops! shes falling in love with her rapist! how romantic! *WTF* ?!?! I don't care if he wanna kill off characters, but except John snow and the fucking disposable character he killed at the first chapter I couldn't love any of his characters. at all. that made me feel even more cheated, which made me "read for finishing" if you know what I mean, and than made me so annoyed that I just dropped it, and I mean really dropping it at the floor saying like: "bad book! I had expectations!!!!!" 🤬
@BFedie518
@BFedie518 7 жыл бұрын
Best opening line in a book: "The sky was the color of cat puke" From 'Uglies' by Scott Westerfeld. He also then proceeds to describe what the cat would have had to eat to get that specific color.
@wizzem7890
@wizzem7890 3 жыл бұрын
Too bad the rest of the book is terrible.
@baileylanore
@baileylanore 3 жыл бұрын
@@wizzem7890 Eh Uglies, Pretties, and Specials were fairly okay (if those aren’t the exact names I’m sorry, it’s been a while since I’ve read the books). Extras though that was just a plain terrible book
@wizzem7890
@wizzem7890 3 жыл бұрын
@@baileylanore I might not have read it in a couple of years, but I completely remember why I hated it. The concept of a surgery to make you pretty is interesting. I don't know if its interesting enough for a whole book, but it is interesting. The small problem is that the rest of the book is about nothing. Nothing nearly the whole way through. Until you get to the end and then it wants to be mildly interesting, but then they cut you off and say, "you wanna see the rest? Too bad. Buy the next book."
@geraldfrost4710
@geraldfrost4710 2 жыл бұрын
"The sky was the color of a television turned to no channel." and THAT book won an award!
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 2 жыл бұрын
*always good to give your audience those little details that make the story that much more enjoyable even on a subconscious nonmedicated level*
@sambauman69
@sambauman69 7 жыл бұрын
Hours... And hours... And hours of character description. That's what they story is really about, right?
@moseszero3281
@moseszero3281 7 жыл бұрын
I solved the problem of too much descriptions, I don't really have any. -- I have about 60k words wrote for my first manuscript and I would guess character descriptions are less than 1k. :( I'm sad now.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 7 жыл бұрын
Of course! A story is basically just conveying information right? So if you convey a lot of very interesting information (meaning anything related to your MC), you must be doing it right!
@matthewhowell2617
@matthewhowell2617 7 жыл бұрын
Sam Bauman Absolutely! Just ask Nathaniel Hawthorne! The Scarlet Letter is all about description. (Sarcasm)
@LiegerZ0
@LiegerZ0 7 жыл бұрын
Stephen King has a characteristic approach to writing where he takes as little time describing a scene or a character as possible. For most characters "she was an ugly, mean little girl" is about as far as he's willing to go, and places can be given a vague remark upon entering but for the most part he doesn't say shit about how they look unless it's important.
@devildavin
@devildavin 7 жыл бұрын
this descriptions were so in depth i could even see the pimples in my mind during gun fights! 10/10
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn't weather automatically establish the atmosphere? After all, the mere presence of weather provides all sorts of information about its composition and density.
@SnowofLight
@SnowofLight 4 жыл бұрын
This comment is better than it has any right to be.
@weareallbornmad410
@weareallbornmad410 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterSpud What do you mean by "pathetic fallacy"?
@weareallbornmad410
@weareallbornmad410 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterSpud Interesting. I would expect English language to use the term _anthropomorphism_ for that, like the rest of us do.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
and let's not forget that weather is also political...and at times even racist...you can't trust the weather to be your friend at all times...
@rainydeestar4806
@rainydeestar4806 4 жыл бұрын
@@MasterSpud I think you missed the joke
@kajetanradulski9267
@kajetanradulski9267 4 жыл бұрын
"A quiet day of surfing the internet at the local library was interrupted when Nazis kicked in the front door." That's it. I'm out
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
Nazis Surfers must die!!!...unless they are already zombies then you have more problems than just replacing the front door
@milicadiy
@milicadiy 4 жыл бұрын
Kajetan Radulski Did you give the Aeon Legion a chance in the span of 11 months? I'm on the third chapter and I think it's pretty good.
@The_Misanthropic_Magpie
@The_Misanthropic_Magpie 3 жыл бұрын
@@milicadiy it got me into reading sci fi and Young adult amazing book I must say
@milicadiy
@milicadiy 3 жыл бұрын
@@The_Misanthropic_Magpie Shame the rest of it isn't available in my country. I think I'll order it online.
@TotallyHuman
@TotallyHuman 3 жыл бұрын
@@milicadiy wait was that a real book?
@StylusShade
@StylusShade 6 жыл бұрын
"Reades rarely get distracted while reading a boo-Bored now." Why am I laughing so hard at this throwaway joke?
@synflwr
@synflwr 5 жыл бұрын
Whats a boo-bored?
@jimihendrix23456
@jimihendrix23456 5 жыл бұрын
@@synflwr When you're gripped right off the bat by a story so interesting you can never pick it back up again.
@jacket6213
@jacket6213 4 жыл бұрын
*"throwaway joke"* I see what you did there.
@lguffee4930
@lguffee4930 4 жыл бұрын
Well I think it has something to do with the subversion of expect-bored now.
@lolimsooedgy7809
@lolimsooedgy7809 3 жыл бұрын
@Eric Lee dude whats your problem
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 7 жыл бұрын
You can tell just how inaccurate the Pie Chart is by how small the *"Showing off how awesome Mary Sue is"* slice is and the conspicuous absence of a *"Love Triangle"* slice.
@nb5437
@nb5437 3 жыл бұрын
The first day of school with the hot new guy is in chapter 2. Chapter 1 is Mary Sue’s morning routine.
@geraldfrost4710
@geraldfrost4710 2 жыл бұрын
@Mark Borok "Every triangle is a love triangle when you love triangles!" ~ Pythagoras
@dzigayu4944
@dzigayu4944 7 жыл бұрын
Another great advice, I'm using them in my book, I titled it "Twilight".
@claushellsing
@claushellsing 7 жыл бұрын
LOOOL XD specially the love dodecahedron.
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 7 жыл бұрын
Did you say love 4-dimensional oxtagonal pyramid?
@peterfox1380
@peterfox1380 7 жыл бұрын
The Love Rhombicosidodecahedron?
@user-zm4ro7yh4e
@user-zm4ro7yh4e 7 жыл бұрын
I think this book will get you sued...
@Dramon8888
@Dramon8888 7 жыл бұрын
It surely would be a better love story than Tw... Never mind.
@johnlance529
@johnlance529 6 жыл бұрын
Monster Hunter International by Larry Correia still has my favorite opening line: "On an otherwise normal Tuesday evening I had the chance to live the American dream. I was able to throw my incompetent jackass of a boss from a fourteenth-story window." Now tell me that doesn't make you want to keep reading.....
@havewissmart9602
@havewissmart9602 4 жыл бұрын
Added to my bucket list
@midimusicforever
@midimusicforever 4 жыл бұрын
If that was the entire book, I'd still be satisfied!
@lolimsooedgy7809
@lolimsooedgy7809 3 жыл бұрын
summary of it pls
@pavelowjohn9167
@pavelowjohn9167 3 жыл бұрын
@@lolimsooedgy7809 Here is the blurb from the back of Book 1 (it's a series, up to 7 books as of Aug 2020): Five days after Owen Zastava Pitt pushed his insufferable boss out of a fourteenth story window, he woke up in the hospital with a scarred face, an unbelievable memory, and a job offer. It turns out that monsters are real. All the things from myth, legend, and B-movies are out there, waiting in the shadows. Officially secret, some of them are evil, and some are just hungry. On the other side are the people who kill monsters for a living. Monster Hunter International is the premier eradication company in the business. And now Owen is their newest recruit... That's a pretty good spoiler-free summary of the book and the series, it follows Owen and other "Hunters" as they have various adventures while working for the world's top monster-hunting company, MHI. I think that Book 1 is actually part of the Free Libary at the publisher's webpage, Baen.com. Here is a link: www.baen.com/allbooks/category/index/id/2012?page=2&pageSize=20&filter=created_at&dir=DESC
@milicadiy
@milicadiy 3 жыл бұрын
@@pavelowjohn9167 Thanks.
@iluvlittenanimations2.010
@iluvlittenanimations2.010 3 жыл бұрын
“It was an average day in the fishing town of Aron, a breeze was blowing, the fish were swimming, and about half of the town was on fire again”
@narnia1233
@narnia1233 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of cute but funny too. I like it. 👍. I would recommend changing “fishing town” to maybe “seaside port” or “seaside town” or something more unique. Basically it’s usually not great to repeat the same words in a single sentence. Fish and town is said later in the sentence, to spice it up or add more interest you use different words to describe maybe the same thing. Or you can add more information by using more descriptive words. (Obviously seaside would tell the reader the town is located by a sea/ocean.)
@wren_.
@wren_. 2 жыл бұрын
my opening line is like that except more serious, it’s “It was a beautiful night; the wind was calm, the seas were gentle, and the moon was full. The only thing off-putting was the overwhelming stench of smoke.”
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl 2 жыл бұрын
_again?_
@PeamThePanda
@PeamThePanda Жыл бұрын
that's awesome
@PeamThePanda
@PeamThePanda Жыл бұрын
@@wren_. that's also awesome
@degenerate2281
@degenerate2281 7 жыл бұрын
I know when I read a story, the *first* thing I look for is the flow chart!
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the six page description of the village that we will never see again.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 7 жыл бұрын
I skip straight to the fifteen appendices explaining the backstories and adventures of way more interesting and awesome people who's main contribution to the story is to either die in act one ,or get build up for a page, praise the hero for another two before leaving the story forever.
@jugenmusugenmegosugebumbok7960
@jugenmusugenmegosugebumbok7960 7 жыл бұрын
If there good enough for Tolkien then you know there great.
@LiegerZ0
@LiegerZ0 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly i don't think anyone outside the story or events outside the story were really all that more interesting, middle earth as a whole was a fairly political meh of meh with the occasional all-out war
@Nightraven26
@Nightraven26 7 жыл бұрын
dakota Carson actually, that's why I dropped LOTR as a kid. Describing hobbits of hobbiton was about as gripping as reading Moby Dick.
@Infinitysquaredorsomething
@Infinitysquaredorsomething 7 жыл бұрын
100 years ago, a prophecy was made. "A girl named Mary Sue will beat a bad guy." Mary Sue woke up and flipped her lusciously luxuriant long brown hair out of her deep ocean blue eyes before looking out her window at the clear sky. She got out of her dark oak bed and chose a beautiful pink long-sleeved dress with sequins running from the silken belt down to the floor-length hem. "A princess must always look her best!"
@Zinervawyrm
@Zinervawyrm 7 жыл бұрын
She then gazed out of her gold and jeweled framed giant glass window, overlooking the grand kingdom. And beyond a grand, emerald green valley, lush peridot green forests, and amethyst violet like mountains. When suddenly a great beastly dragon with breath like rotting corpses came and grabbed her. She screamed in terror and cried for help, when she heard the voice of a handsome prince, "Use your special gift Mary Sue! Only you have the power to save us all." But before she could use her powers…BEEP…BEEP…BEEP…She woke up to an alarm clock, not in a grand palace, but in an ordinary Spanish styled mansion in Beverly Hills, California. Mary Sue was an ordinary girl, her parents not rich and royal just ordinary everyday rich, boring, soap opera actors. She looked at her clock and panicked, "Oh no! Its 8:30! I'm late for school again!" And she clumsily tripped out of her bed, got dressed in her blue sailor style uniform, and grabbed her handmade Italian leather bag and a piece of toast, and ran outside, all the while narrating how boring and mundane her real life was, unlike her dreams. But little did she know, her dreams on that day would actually come true!
@Lycan_the_deerdog
@Lycan_the_deerdog 6 жыл бұрын
I think I just threw up into my mouth
@niallreid7664
@niallreid7664 6 жыл бұрын
You should really use "orbs" in place of "eyes," as that is the hallmark of exceptional writing.
@nklover24
@nklover24 6 жыл бұрын
I used to write like this 😅
@sirnesbit1285
@sirnesbit1285 6 жыл бұрын
Then all of a sudden, the Ugandan Knuckle tribe invaded her school and city. They killed off most of the citizens via sHpitting on them. Mary Sue escaped them, and dreamt about their quEn, who she was destined to killz
@DeathnoteBB
@DeathnoteBB 3 жыл бұрын
My potential beginning: “Another day, _another hole in my wall.”_
@carlosperalta1714
@carlosperalta1714 3 жыл бұрын
The Life of a Stereotypical Kyle
@Plazmatothemax
@Plazmatothemax 2 жыл бұрын
glory*
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 2 жыл бұрын
*but the real drama and story follows in who or what caused the hole in the first place and making it all look like an accident or at the very least if the questions from the investigative authorities get way too awkward or probing an unfortunately brutal example of self defense/preservation reflex programming and special forces training kicking*
@gimblegomble2850
@gimblegomble2850 9 ай бұрын
“Dammit, Kyle. Stop punching my wall!”
@playerdude2
@playerdude2 7 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to use a mirror to describe how the main character looks! - Stephenie Meyer in a nutshell
@themrsnakebitee
@themrsnakebitee 6 жыл бұрын
playerdude2 sounds familiar... Which books did she make again?
@Karou812
@Karou812 6 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Fifty Shades of Gray is even worse being a bad Twilight fanfiction and all
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 5 жыл бұрын
Cringe!
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 5 жыл бұрын
I used to like the first and second books! Admittedly, I was 12 and did read a much more palatable translation (Pro tip: if German makes your book better, it should be Since focused).
@sillysquid10
@sillysquid10 5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Urban Fantasy full of love triangles!
@14hourz82
@14hourz82 7 жыл бұрын
''My book has a beginning'' ok this made me totaly interested, i will buy this shit
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 7 жыл бұрын
"It has a character" The new Tolkien! Let's make a movie out of it!
@devildavin
@devildavin 7 жыл бұрын
not just one we gotta stretch this into a trilogy!
@caseygray2328
@caseygray2328 7 жыл бұрын
nope its a saga now
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 7 жыл бұрын
casey gray Reboot it seven times!
@Mac15001900
@Mac15001900 7 жыл бұрын
It does begin with "A quiet day of surfing the internet at the local library was interrupted when Nazis kicked in the front door", which is pretty cool as far as beginnings go ;)
@aojpictures
@aojpictures 7 жыл бұрын
You forgot the epitome of book introductions, the character dump bio sheet! Name: Age: Eye colour: Appearance: Personality: Powers: Equipment: Are you excited yet!?
@Nortarachanges
@Nortarachanges 7 жыл бұрын
Aidan Owen-Jones Also how misunderstood, unappreciated, and awful their childhood was. Vital ^_^
@TheFireFox36
@TheFireFox36 7 жыл бұрын
Their race, class, religion and alignment are also very important to include. You get bonus points if it is a gnome.
@aojpictures
@aojpictures 7 жыл бұрын
Also pairings, mustn't forget to immediately say who's gonna date who even if you've never heard of them before. And flaws, but only if they're not flaws at all.
@aojpictures
@aojpictures 7 жыл бұрын
Sander Suverkropp It's a subsection of appearance, though may also re-appear under section 4.0 Powers should the person in question be subject to appearance altering abilities as a consequence of said powers. Please refer to appendix 7.2 as provided, to see detailed examples such as "super saiyan".
@CraftBasti
@CraftBasti 7 жыл бұрын
You forgott the bloodtype!!
@maximusthedude8305
@maximusthedude8305 6 жыл бұрын
I once tried reading the original Peter Pan book. By the time I gave up, I had no idea whether the book was talking about the river system of the Neverlands, human anatomy, or a map. I'm not joking. Then I skipped to the end, but I got even more confused when Peter Pan decided to kiss the mother of the three children he had just brought back from Neverland and everyone was ok with that, even though he was the one who broke in during the middle of the night and stole them from that very room a few decades ago. I can only hope that I'm just an idiot who can't read, because people make children's shows out of this book.
@keikurono192
@keikurono192 6 жыл бұрын
Your'e an idiot who can't read.
@williamelmore4100
@williamelmore4100 6 жыл бұрын
Maximus The Dude i
@crashing_praxina
@crashing_praxina 6 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem reading that book so I didn't get very far
@Mikewee777
@Mikewee777 6 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia hides some disturbing imagery
@seanocallaghan48
@seanocallaghan48 6 жыл бұрын
It is a hard but good book
@SamGlaze
@SamGlaze 6 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that while gazing at their physical reflection they should also be contemplating all of their emotional and internal traits while recalling their entire backstory and paper-thin motivations
@edisonlima4647
@edisonlima4647 3 жыл бұрын
That's why I always get late to events. Brushing my hair and repassing my bio in front of the mirror takes ages!
@businessproyects2615
@businessproyects2615 2 жыл бұрын
Is their daily routine the know they are book characters all along.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 2 жыл бұрын
*and all of their internal soliloquies/monologuing needs to be in bold text and to really annoy the audience in italic as well or in some other fancy script that is overly pretentious and intentionally condescending just reading it*
@user-tl6jr2ez7s
@user-tl6jr2ez7s 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmantooth8785 Me, who uses italics and bolded italics for a character’s internal monologue because it’s in a different language: *nervous sweating*
@3dstuff654
@3dstuff654 Жыл бұрын
Ikr, the waves of their perfectly groomed hair reminds them that life itself is like a wave with ups and downs
@tarotcard0371
@tarotcard0371 7 жыл бұрын
The next episode should be Superheroes. Half of the stills would just be black.
@TheOtherBlue
@TheOtherBlue 7 жыл бұрын
I would be down for a superhero episode. Sometimes when I read a superhero story, sometimes the power gets in the way of the actual character and it's like rotating the book to read where the hell the characterization is.
@SleightCreative
@SleightCreative 7 жыл бұрын
As someone who writes short stories about superheroes and worked really hard to not do this I can sympathize
@nopenopington2880
@nopenopington2880 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds good.
@jesusramirezromo2037
@jesusramirezromo2037 7 жыл бұрын
Like aren't 90% of Superhero fanfictions ripoffs of Xmen?
@Bladez10
@Bladez10 7 жыл бұрын
And if your Superhero is too super, just give him a physical weakness, like a glowy space rock that only effects the hero. You can write page after page of your hero getting weaker before someone else gets rid of the space rock and write page after page of the hero getting better.
@deldarel
@deldarel 7 жыл бұрын
That's stupid. There is only one way to do it well and that is to make the entire book exposition. Now you eliminated every pitfall you'll ever encounter EVER.
@pelleas7001
@pelleas7001 7 жыл бұрын
Deldarel well there's one problem..... you still need the love dodecahedron.
@deldarel
@deldarel 7 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of the exposition: you can make as many as you want as long as it's semi-relevant to the setting. The main character was born from a love chiliadodecaquadron and is the direct decendant of the love megagon. The love megagon had three daughters, they were all love myriagons. Prophecy has foretold that, once the amount of humans on the USA reaches 1 billion, he'd become the prince of the love gigagon. The possibilities are endless
@alexparker5127
@alexparker5127 7 жыл бұрын
This sounds like mythology....aka that's a legitimate writing style that was used for thousands of years for some of the longest enduring stories in history, so clearly you are correct.
@deldarel
@deldarel 7 жыл бұрын
I was thinking of that as well, and while some mythological pieces are indeed just exposition, there is no mythology that's just exposition on its won. The vast majority are still stories
@experiment0789
@experiment0789 7 жыл бұрын
If you really want to know how to screw something up ask the master himself , M Night Shyamalan. Before anyone says anything, I am referring to his less then stellar interpretation of Avatar the last air bender. I'm not judging any of his other movies or suggesting that they were all bad, just how he knows how to screw things up so badly that even getting a winning franchise doesn't help.
@RCPen-tk1pl
@RCPen-tk1pl 6 жыл бұрын
Me starting a book: "Hey, I'll just write an edgy opening dialogue line and go from there!" Pg 1: "Look at them.They think you're going to save them."
@watchermagic5325
@watchermagic5325 4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I really like that
@ricoco7891
@ricoco7891 4 жыл бұрын
Ruby Pen This is the type of edge everyone finds enjoyable, go for it Ruby
@trla6505
@trla6505 4 жыл бұрын
Second person perspective is really intersting
@MRJTD99
@MRJTD99 3 жыл бұрын
Did you really change from Ruby Pen to R. C. Pen because "cool writers do initials", you fucking tool?
@paint1238
@paint1238 3 жыл бұрын
@@MRJTD99 what a chad
@AzumangaDiohFan101
@AzumangaDiohFan101 6 жыл бұрын
How about Terrible Writing Advice: Coming of Age Stories?
@seaemji8591
@seaemji8591 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean : Love Triangle
@petergianakopoulos4926
@petergianakopoulos4926 4 жыл бұрын
Ooooh that's good
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
@@seaemji8591 unrequited love triangles lead to resentment and confusion followed unstable emotional outbursts that spirals even further out of control leading to drunk texting, fish slapping and then restraining orders...it's all very sad.
@kitalalaris
@kitalalaris 4 жыл бұрын
@@scottmantooth8785 In fairness, my brain with the maturity level of a 12 year old on red-bull found that image hilarious and thinks it would be funny to read or see in a comic book format XD
@seaemji8591
@seaemji8591 4 жыл бұрын
Uh... you know i meant it as a joke, right ?
@oussamael7700
@oussamael7700 7 жыл бұрын
No Love triangle in this video, I'm disappointed !!
@The8B1tWarrior
@The8B1tWarrior 7 жыл бұрын
That's in the exposition
@oussamael7700
@oussamael7700 7 жыл бұрын
But...but....The love triangle must be the solution to all problems and questions of the universe. It's like 42
@The8B1tWarrior
@The8B1tWarrior 7 жыл бұрын
Oussama El That's in the ending exposition
@gabrielschirmann7213
@gabrielschirmann7213 7 жыл бұрын
the love triangle (or dodecahedron for that matter) needs a protagonist to revolve around, therefore it cannot easily be made without first detailing the utterly ordinary and boring life of the protagonist. this is why the love triangle must be made after the exposition, hence its absence in this video.
@ShudowWolf
@ShudowWolf 7 жыл бұрын
Nonsense! The protagonist has no characterization other than the fact they are in the love triangle! ... ... ... Never said it was a _good_ solution to shoehorn the love triangle in the beginning but I mean...this *is* terrible writing advice so...
@CrushedParagon
@CrushedParagon 7 жыл бұрын
If I had a nickel for every time the protagonist of the story gazes into a reflective surface and feels compelled to describe themselves to nobody in particular, I'd be rich.
@tibbygaycat
@tibbygaycat 6 жыл бұрын
CrushedParagon What if. They lookedin a reflective surface. And looked at something behind them.
@thedapperegg689
@thedapperegg689 6 жыл бұрын
They manage to screech out in fear as the knife is driven into them. Then they wake up.
@majorblitz3846
@majorblitz3846 6 жыл бұрын
1) Like you Say 2) Like You Say but Replace Knife Part with Protagonist get Raped by a Horny Divine Spirit
@edtheangler4930
@edtheangler4930 6 жыл бұрын
Major Blitz I laughed a little....
@sinisterstork9055
@sinisterstork9055 6 жыл бұрын
CrushedParagon If I had a nickel every time the protagonist describe themselves as if they were the most beautiful human being in the universe, I'd be even more rich.
@ahappyjackolantern
@ahappyjackolantern 5 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to write a book, and when I saw this video I thought, “okay, great. I should watch this video and as long as I haven’t done anything this character recommends, I should be fine.” *story begins with a dream sequence then looking in a mirror* “Well shi-“
@johnlevin4567
@johnlevin4567 7 ай бұрын
How’s the book going?
@ahappyjackolantern
@ahappyjackolantern 7 ай бұрын
@@johnlevin4567 doesn’t begin with a dream sequence and then looking in a mirror, so I’d say it’s certainly going better than it was 5 years ago! Fr though, it’s going much better. I’ve gotten much more skilled at writing with study and practice.
@mhamdwrya5126
@mhamdwrya5126 6 ай бұрын
@@ahappyjackolantern so... what's its name?
@zachhughes5973
@zachhughes5973 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was 13 I thought being an author would be cool, so I tried to write a book. Years later, I have since purged that from my mind. I find it funny that everything you say not to do with fantasy novels is basically what I did as a kid. Good thing I'm now an adult who can see further beyond simple conflicts and can build worlds and themes through symbolism. Keep up the good work! You're incredibly entertaining to watch, and your messages are quite good.
@firaxolegirein9816
@firaxolegirein9816 3 жыл бұрын
Will you ever?
@nono9543
@nono9543 7 жыл бұрын
But what if the flow chart doesn't even work? *looks at the Zelda series*
@pizzahutkidman8806
@pizzahutkidman8806 7 жыл бұрын
Then make an other flowchart to explain that flowchart
@reasyrandom
@reasyrandom 7 жыл бұрын
Zelda has a working flow-chart, it's just strangely constructed. It's done this way so newcomers wouldn't be confused when playing any game of the series.
@peterdietrich8810
@peterdietrich8810 7 жыл бұрын
Then there needs to be more flow charts.
@maxis2k
@maxis2k 6 жыл бұрын
The problem is that Zelda invented its timeline 25 years after the series began. Meaning a good 10-15 years, there was no planning. Of course that begs the question why they decided to bother making a timeline at all. But hey, its canon so it has to be good, right?
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 6 жыл бұрын
maxis2k The funny thing about calling something a "series" is that people tend to interpret the installments as serial--that is, one coming after another. Failing to line up developer intent and audience expectations never ends well. Luckily, one of the most fondly-remembered games had time travel, which provides an excellent excuse for apparent contradictions!
@coachrenaldo
@coachrenaldo 7 жыл бұрын
You got it all wrong J.P! The beginning is all about setting up the love triangle!
@BirdRaiserE
@BirdRaiserE 7 жыл бұрын
Coach Renaldo PLEASE GOD NO
@coachrenaldo
@coachrenaldo 7 жыл бұрын
EHW2 hey, I was just listening to some TERRIBLE WRITING ADVICE. No worries!
@exumbra1399
@exumbra1399 6 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean the LORVE TRIORNGLE?
@MandyGBX
@MandyGBX 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that the best way to use the "in medias res" style of opening a story is to give a paragraph or two from the middle of the climax, then suddenly cut of off with some version of "Wait, let me start at the beginning" and then begin the info dump. That will in no way mess with the pacing early on, nor is it at all overused.
@gimblegomble2850
@gimblegomble2850 9 ай бұрын
“Yeah that’s me. You’re probably wondering how I got into this situation…”
@angelareyes3211
@angelareyes3211 6 жыл бұрын
FOR THE READERS: Here was a rule that I think all of us might agree on. The 3 Chapter rule. Explanation: Where if the first chapter seems kinda bad, you have to move on to another (2) chapters. Some authors are bad at portraying starting chapters, but get better soon after. Take The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo for example, the beginning was slow-paced and boring but around the second or third chapter things got better. They say don't judge a book by its cover, don't judge it by it's first chapter too. (**But if you can clearly see the bad grammar and terrible spelling you might wanna back off.) ^^ Good creators are mostly self conscious of their work and they will double-check​ to make sure they make a good first impression. Just wanted to drop by this optional rule, love your videos btw!
@Newfiecat
@Newfiecat 5 жыл бұрын
That's a good rule. When I read Harry Potter for the first time as a kid, I found the first chapter pretty boring with all the wizards just standing around, talking about a baby. But man, did it ever pick up after that!
@Rainbowthewindsage
@Rainbowthewindsage 5 жыл бұрын
In my opinion the first chapter of Great Gatsby, which is a book I love is kinda like this. Nick talking on and on about what kind of person he is could have been edited down I think.
@andystellar
@andystellar 4 жыл бұрын
Its been a year and opinions might have changed, but I completely agree with this comment
@baguettegott3409
@baguettegott3409 4 жыл бұрын
@@Newfiecat Oh yes, both Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings took several attempts and a lot of fighting to get into, and both went on to become some of the most influential and defining books of certain parts of my life (and to this day my most read ones).
@rachelciel3330
@rachelciel3330 4 жыл бұрын
You're completely right. Which is also the reason I always jumped the prologue, first chapter, and sometimes 2nd chapter when I read a novel. I treated the summary like the basic knowledge I need and just jumped straight to the third or second chap. A bit confused? Not to worry, I picked things fast- I'm not going to read the first chapter or prologue even if you kill me.
@WillcraftAnimations
@WillcraftAnimations 7 жыл бұрын
I'm currently trying to begin a story. That is to say, I finished writing the entire story, scrapped it, and now I'm starting over. Which somehow is even harder now that I got the plot and the stacks upon stacks of lore all figured out, as I try to avoid these pitfalls. Pretty sure I'm at that point where the story is going to burn in purgatory forever as my life flies by.
@liveatlast4759
@liveatlast4759 3 жыл бұрын
when in doubt, add a love triangle.
@hingusmingus6399
@hingusmingus6399 3 жыл бұрын
Sup will! I loved your animations way back when. Never did I think I'd spot you here! If this is still relevant, if you have lore and plot figured out, instead of starting new, try adding or removing elements, information, or events depending on if you feel like its overly complicated or overly simplistic
@matthewparker9276
@matthewparker9276 3 жыл бұрын
Don't start writing at the beginning. Start writing at the inciting incident, and add the beginning and the hook later, once you understand the story better.
@milicadiy
@milicadiy 3 жыл бұрын
It isn't. It took Tolkien 30 years to write his series, and look where he's at now. There's hope for every writer.
@quarterzillion
@quarterzillion 2 жыл бұрын
...in a grave? (I know what you mean I'm just messing around lol)
@Nionivek
@Nionivek 7 жыл бұрын
OHHH! The next Bad Writing Advice should just be about Dream Sequences! They tend to be excessively literal prophetic dreams and often don't shed any real light on our protagonist at all.
@LoliconSamalik
@LoliconSamalik 6 жыл бұрын
Nionivek unless we're talking daydreams. That does say something about a protagonist once the dream cloud pops.
@bryanmanuel4945
@bryanmanuel4945 6 жыл бұрын
Fun isn't something one considers when balancing the comment section but this does put a smile on my face.
@JorneDeSmedt
@JorneDeSmedt 6 жыл бұрын
Anything with a Latin name is a good idea? Better prepare the Deus Ex Machina.
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
Deus Ex Amore Triangulo and now Gluten Free
@BogusmanTheSwagman
@BogusmanTheSwagman 3 жыл бұрын
Lorem Ipsum, duh!
@signodeinterrogacion8361
@signodeinterrogacion8361 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottmantooth8785 as an spaniard that was painfull to read
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 3 жыл бұрын
@@signodeinterrogacion8361 *you have Google Translate to blame for that*
@neoshenlong
@neoshenlong 6 жыл бұрын
100 Years of Solitude begins with "Muchos años después, frente al pelotón de fusilamiento, el coronel Aureliano Buendía habría de recordar aquella tarde remota en que su padre lo llevó a conocer el hielo." "Many years later, in front of the firing squad, the colonel was to remember that distant afternoon..." Now THAT single sentence requires a flowchart. Many years later -> Puts you in the future of the time in which the sentence begin. There's already two diferent moments in those three words. He was to remember -> Sends us back even before whatever was in the many years later. That's an 'in medias res' that sends us into the future and then sends us into a flashback. There are whole literary essays about that single phrase of the beginning. Its beautiful.
@merrittanimation7721
@merrittanimation7721 6 жыл бұрын
Neoshenlong Archivo 2008 - 2011 Dear lord if that single sentence requires a flowchart I shudder to think of the rest of the book (and I have read it)
@Fearofthemonster
@Fearofthemonster 5 жыл бұрын
Nah the story was linear. It just gave the reader visions from the future from time to time.
@GMovieSeeker
@GMovieSeeker 5 жыл бұрын
I sorta hate it when stories begin from the end. It requires a lot of balls for a writer to start from the end. He basically says: look, the ending isn't the point here. Only what leads to it. I like the idea of surprising the reader. Even if it's a tragedy, the reader should have at least SOME hope things could improve... And if it's a happy ending, worry that it might not be happy!
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Qwerty the ilias kinda starts with a summary of the end of the story , i have always found that one very interesting.
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
Well, if you just read it, there is nothing complex about it. It's setting up a series of important events. I would say it's more about the execution.
@krahedude7565
@krahedude7565 7 жыл бұрын
Is this a good opening intro? "As his mass entered I moaned in suprise then he opened the curtains and I realized it was Monday" sex sells therfore my story is great
@MelodicDragon97
@MelodicDragon97 7 жыл бұрын
Ana Amari Change the first word from "as" to "after" and you're good to go! Like the first reply said, he can't enter and open the curtains at the same time. After he entered, he opened the curtains.
@condorboss3339
@condorboss3339 7 жыл бұрын
+WhiteTuxMafiaAndFilms Depends where the curtains are hung.
@peterfox1380
@peterfox1380 7 жыл бұрын
So, did he open the curtains as you 2 were having sex? How did you know it was Monday by opening the blinds? Does it have a calendar? Surely you don't need to open the blinds to know if it's Monday or not if you already knew that it was Sunday the day before.
@eyeroh5250
@eyeroh5250 7 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought mass was a religious thing. So the way I saw it was. People entering a chapel like thing. A person groans that there are that many people. Another person opens up curtains and it all happened on monday.
@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim2918
@dougdimmadomeownerofthedim2918 7 жыл бұрын
This made me chuckle.
@BP-dn9nv
@BP-dn9nv 6 жыл бұрын
I think having the prologue take place centuries before the story works fine, provided the events discussed are relevant to the main story or at least get the audience curious as to what the connection is.
@zenleek2129
@zenleek2129 Жыл бұрын
I find it possible (Sanderson does it) but dangerous If it's not good enough, you're just gonna lose people
@mrszmatan2727
@mrszmatan2727 Жыл бұрын
or just have whole first book be prologue to whole saga. This one will definitely work out (trust me bro)
@atrain3441
@atrain3441 2 жыл бұрын
Always go with the American Psycho route: Classical piano music in the background while the character monologues for a whole bunch about how amazing they are.
@pleasantvillearchive
@pleasantvillearchive 4 жыл бұрын
"This story starts in the basement of a Denny's, as these kinds of stories often do." is the opening line to my Undertale fanfiction.
@greatwavefan397
@greatwavefan397 Жыл бұрын
"Finally... a Grand Slam! LET'S GO!"
@gimblegomble2850
@gimblegomble2850 9 ай бұрын
Checks out.
@nopenopington2880
@nopenopington2880 7 жыл бұрын
Say, what do you get when you mix an alcoholic beverage with a killed off fanfiction OC protagonist? A Bloody Mary.
@shadowslayer205
@shadowslayer205 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the opening to a teen vampire novel.
@NathanTAK
@NathanTAK 6 жыл бұрын
...are you getting at a Bloody Mary Sue?
@mennograafmans1595
@mennograafmans1595 6 жыл бұрын
But what would a Bloody Mary sue if a Mary Sue could sue?
@aswirlything5838
@aswirlything5838 6 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there and I like it
@yeehawjones1230
@yeehawjones1230 6 жыл бұрын
mary sues cannot be killed
@yuihidegigauchu0069
@yuihidegigauchu0069 7 жыл бұрын
> introduce main character in hometown who has symbolic dream before engaging in morning routine perfect, i have all of these :DDDDD
@Yal_Rathol
@Yal_Rathol 6 жыл бұрын
"the building was on fire and it wasn't my fault." -harry dresden.
@helenazerakova9549
@helenazerakova9549 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite opening line.
@SarajevoKyoto
@SarajevoKyoto 3 жыл бұрын
"Apocalypses always kick off at the witching hour. That's something you know now" Pretty much the whole book right there
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 2 жыл бұрын
*those matches found in my pocket are not mine...i'm simply holding them for someone else who was called away on some important errand and just forgot about them*
@Lunafeir
@Lunafeir 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite opening line was from Babylon: “Oh no. I killed the chicken.”
@platinumchromee3191
@platinumchromee3191 2 жыл бұрын
Skyrim be like:
@degenerate2281
@degenerate2281 7 жыл бұрын
Fir- *Shot immediately*
@ambersquirrel1113
@ambersquirrel1113 7 жыл бұрын
*Drops gun and runs*
@violaisfree
@violaisfree 7 жыл бұрын
*proceeds to discard evidence of the body*
@justinsertanamehere.please6638
@justinsertanamehere.please6638 7 жыл бұрын
*Makes sure the police never finds out*
@stevejohnson1078
@stevejohnson1078 7 жыл бұрын
You should've known... Han always shoots first.
@ZombieNubify
@ZombieNubify 7 жыл бұрын
BLASPHEMY! Wait...you said Han. Nevermind...
@zombiiritz4997
@zombiiritz4997 7 жыл бұрын
how about terrible writing advice: edgy caracters? I see this cliche so much.
@calmcloudlesssky3443
@calmcloudlesssky3443 7 жыл бұрын
The fact that all the "savvy" characters in Game of Thrones are like this makes it all the sweeter. Yes, Sandor, the world is awful. I assure you that your own personal awfulness is very much helping to ensure it.
@legrandliseurtri7495
@legrandliseurtri7495 4 жыл бұрын
@@calmcloudlesssky3443 What's wrong with him? He got bitter seeing his psycho brother being consider a knight and be free to do more awful things. Makes sense to me.
@jennytulls6369
@jennytulls6369 4 жыл бұрын
Vainitus, Shadow and Dark Pit: *Sweat profusely*
@Wampao
@Wampao 3 жыл бұрын
initiate EDGE mode: *CRAWWWWWWW* ling in my *SKIIII8IIIIIII* n
@nixxdra
@nixxdra 3 жыл бұрын
Well, he covered antiheros, that’s pretty much the same thing, right?
@da_pikmin_coder8367
@da_pikmin_coder8367 6 жыл бұрын
3:30 This perfectly explains the dilemma of modern literature. My problem with most novels these days is that they are clearly trying to make a low-effort book that would be better as a movie that gets juuuuuuuuust enough of a following that a studio picks it up and makes it into a movie and you get famous. But then the book ends up being a movie without visuals or sounds which is totally boring. You just can't read the book without constantly thinking about "this stuff would be cool to see/hear, but it's a hassle to listen to the author describe it all day. Why couldn't this have just been a movie? Oh wait, it is." Although one thing the writer will do is add way too much exposition to fit into a movie, so that when the movie comes out some fan of the book will be all like "That movie sucked. The book was *so* much better. The movie skipped over too many vital scenes such as [insert random detail about a character's past that does not improve the story] and skipping that stuff just ruins the story!" and then that will draw fans of the movie to buy the book so that it still makes money.
@danaa-
@danaa- 4 ай бұрын
As a HP fan, i feel attacked
@Iamnotpicky
@Iamnotpicky 3 жыл бұрын
Start with the pretentious line "THe universe is more horrifiying and wonderful than we could ever imagine." The rest is then braindead action - and I'm actually proud of it.
@silverdotexe
@silverdotexe 7 жыл бұрын
Wait a minute. Where the fuck is the resources dedicated to the Love Triangle? Doesn't every true author allocate some resources to the love triangle. Or Tetrahedron. Or whatever geometric shape of choice?
@tolbryntheix4135
@tolbryntheix4135 7 жыл бұрын
Just use a sphere. That way, you can have infinite characters, that way the story length is infinite and thus if anyone ever complains about the exposition taking up too much of the story you have the excuse of the exposition technically only taking up 0% of the story.
@Sorain1
@Sorain1 7 жыл бұрын
Love interests are just parts of mary sue, clearly.
@kabalder
@kabalder 6 жыл бұрын
It's true. Every commercially successful writer actually has a, at the very least, a simple chart describing the love-interests.
@HoloTheDrunk
@HoloTheDrunk 5 жыл бұрын
Gimme my love glome... even more infinity ! :')
@CallenExile
@CallenExile 5 жыл бұрын
Screw the love triangle. Go harem or go home.
@curfewcrewrobloxgames2141
@curfewcrewrobloxgames2141 7 жыл бұрын
If you want a good example for how to start a story just look at the bee movie script "according to all known laws of aviation..."
@sillypuppy5940
@sillypuppy5940 5 жыл бұрын
Except that bees flight has since been explained by science.
@Rhino1004
@Rhino1004 5 жыл бұрын
​@@sillypuppy5940 So to make a story intro so memorable that it's a meme, I should start by telling the reader some complete and utter lies? Aw hell yes
@gamereviewer104
@gamereviewer104 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Paralellex
@Paralellex 3 жыл бұрын
It's important to remember that people read books for the same reason they read user manuals: an elaborate and exhaustive detailing of information with nothing interesting happening.
@spacecat_scribbles
@spacecat_scribbles 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no. I have a story starting with a mysterious dream sequence followed by a morning routine. And it's not even a well written morning routine 😔 Yep, revisions will be happening
@s4turnn524
@s4turnn524 2 жыл бұрын
OH GOD SAMe
@starpeep5769
@starpeep5769 2 жыл бұрын
IKR and then my new story if about dreams and it lso has a dream sequence but dreams are important in the story.
@tompatterson1548
@tompatterson1548 2 жыл бұрын
Cut the routine unless it provides nuances of characterisation or alludes to a plot point. I establish that my character can't sleep on airplanes and this is plot relevant as a few scenes later a similar thing happens.
@bunnyluv288
@bunnyluv288 2 жыл бұрын
same, but I have a very captivating writing style so i’m fine
@_12k70
@_12k70 Жыл бұрын
@@tompatterson1548 Character has been stuck in place for 6 years with his only company being the place's A.I. and his parents research notes I-Is anything about the routine relevant? Should I just skip to him escaping? How tafuq do I start this?
@rusty5707
@rusty5707 7 жыл бұрын
To quote Yahtzee, "Are you telling the most interesting part of the character's life? If not, why not?"
@kram9863
@kram9863 7 жыл бұрын
You say killing off the intro character is a bad idea, but it seemed to work pretty good for A Game of Thrones.
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 7 жыл бұрын
If they are your main viewpoint character for most of a whole book, they probably graduated from "intro character" into "motivating cannon fodder"
@micahisham
@micahisham 7 жыл бұрын
Kram Game of Thrones is built around crapping on reader expectations. It wouldn't work for someone with a less interesting story to tell.
@iliketurtles2531
@iliketurtles2531 7 жыл бұрын
I think the point is, you can't do it for the sake of Mary Sue.
@loxodoncyclotis1823
@loxodoncyclotis1823 7 жыл бұрын
sander heutink I think Kram was referring to Ser Waymar Royce (the prologue POV), not to Ned.
@sirnilsolav6646
@sirnilsolav6646 7 жыл бұрын
Kram When I watched the Attack on Titan Anime, after 5 or so episodes they finally got to the action and the first thing that happens to the characters you've gotten to know are killed of. Even the protagonist is seemingly killed off and though I felt "What?! They can't kill him off just like that!" I think it might have worked. It would have set a great stage for what war really looks like. Though you're the top of your class in the military, you can still just die just like that. It doesn't matter how motivated you are, there's no protection from the horror of death in war. The story could have continued with the other characters already established to carry on the memory of the protagonist. Though I am glad they didn't do it this way, it could have worked. Don't mistake my relief of the protagonists survival as evidence for not going that route. There's a lot of characters in Game of Thrones I wish were alive but we're not going to see again.
@wyvernfallgaming
@wyvernfallgaming 5 жыл бұрын
I have some ideas 1. SCP terrible writing advice 2. Creepypasta terrible writing advice 3. News terrible writing advice (joke that fake news is good to write) 4. Terrible writing advice making fanfiction 5. Terrible writing advice superhero settings
@scottmantooth8785
@scottmantooth8785 4 жыл бұрын
a trope where the characters in the book make fun of the author writing the story while the story is being written
@meloneatingwolf1882
@meloneatingwolf1882 3 жыл бұрын
Does worry he will have a field day on Creepypasta Terrible Writing Advice. Just watch any video by Micheal Leroi on creepypastas.
@apoor_conductor
@apoor_conductor 11 ай бұрын
Oh yes please I would love to see a TWA video on SCP wiki entries, that fandom needs a jab every once in a while
@Karak-_-
@Karak-_- 11 ай бұрын
​@@apoor_conductor I think they have some rules of thumb on their page. Not sure if JP is familiar with writing style of SCP articles and it's conventions.
@CaffieKuriboh
@CaffieKuriboh 4 жыл бұрын
I imagine that a more "cinematic" approach would be useful in graphic novels such as the use of establishing shots and maybe a few panels that form a sort of panning shot.
@Pumpkin4420
@Pumpkin4420 7 жыл бұрын
"Sorry if my voice sounds a bit different, I recently upgraded my Beer." Almost as good as misheard song lyrics.
@Its_just_me_man
@Its_just_me_man 7 жыл бұрын
This video describes my current work . . . . Well crap. I'll just ignore the sarcasm. Ignorance is bliss.
@jeromealday614
@jeromealday614 6 жыл бұрын
Totally, I mean Im currently writing in the middle of a game story. I just cant scrap the whole story because of a youtuber.
@jeromealday614
@jeromealday614 6 жыл бұрын
Alex Jones I can't, I already programmed the scenes and actions. Sucks I found this channel too late.
@jt0n
@jt0n 6 жыл бұрын
Gerardo Joaquin oof same tho. Goodbyyyyyye hometown.
@citruscomb
@citruscomb 6 жыл бұрын
*Relatable*
@ChaosRayZero
@ChaosRayZero 5 жыл бұрын
For everyone who found Gerardo's comment relatable: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qsBjedGT37Tbo6c.html
@Boycrush2000
@Boycrush2000 6 жыл бұрын
Actually sometimes the whole introducing a character and then the real main character because sometimes it can give the audience important information that the main character might not know adding in some dramatic irony
@raffaellonardin2209
@raffaellonardin2209 6 жыл бұрын
About the attention span of the reader... it's actually more common than not to find the quickest and more catchy start in modern "literature" because of that. If we take Narnia, or Tolkien, or even His Dark Materials and Harry Potter... it's always a slow burn. Expecially in Lord of the Ring. I actually like this kind of slower starts :)
@dmas7749
@dmas7749 7 жыл бұрын
1:53 - 2:08 Basically RPG character creation in a nutshell
@nathanclark2424
@nathanclark2424 6 жыл бұрын
D MAS except designing one can be fun. Watching it, not always so much
@nicholsjoshua15
@nicholsjoshua15 6 жыл бұрын
Different mediums need different story telling methods. What works for a movie wouldn't work in a book; and what works in a book wouldn't work in a video game.
@thunderwyvern17
@thunderwyvern17 7 жыл бұрын
Even though I'm working on a comic, the advice in all these videos has been invaluable. I'm working with a visual medium, so what? EXPOSITION. Describing the beauty of the main character in words works way better than just showing them. Art is hard. I like shortcuts.
@MrServantRider
@MrServantRider 7 жыл бұрын
Visual Mediums make it so much easier, since you don't have to spend any time at all describing a character, it's just a given that everyone can see the character. In a book, you have to carefully weave character description into actions or conversation, or else risk having a "Wikipedia character profile" as a paragraph to describe a character. Some books get away with this though.
@thunderwyvern17
@thunderwyvern17 7 жыл бұрын
In all seriousness, I agree. I admire good written works because of how incredibly hard it can be to, well, write good. One of my biggest goals with my comic is to simply show things (nothing like SHOWING someone just how big a certain creature is than just telling them it's fifty feet tall), and avoid exposition in dialogue to instead let readers fill in gaps and make connections to things in the world they see.
@N1rvanaGod
@N1rvanaGod 7 жыл бұрын
Not really... well, not always. Sometimes it's much more effective to show people something rather than describing it, and that applies to thousands of situations, not only exposition. We don't interpret the world in words, images can have a great impact on people, just as much, or even more, than words
@nmtlnm
@nmtlnm 7 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@sonla8428
@sonla8428 6 жыл бұрын
Gastón Psotka Schendel Then comes the disaster of trying to adapt it into live action movies/anime because everyone images of the same thing are drastically different and the adaptations flops badly because nobody is pleased about the different view in said adaptations.
@master6494
@master6494 5 жыл бұрын
The Way of Kings (one of the better books I've read lately) starts with a prologue that happens thousands of years before the story, then moves to a first chapter that happens 6 months before the real story and where the POV is an extra that died in that same chapter. Not that your points are invalidated by one single example, just thought that it's pretty funny that all those Terrible Writing Advice fits in such a good book.
@un-capital3666
@un-capital3666 4 жыл бұрын
He has stated before that the things he mentions can be done well, and he often likes to insert suggestions on how to do them well. In fact, one of his videos mentions that an uber successful and well-received story was created based on bad ideas, which the author ended-up using well.
@imitationinfinity7962
@imitationinfinity7962 7 жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking abut the featured fanart?
@sirtacovi3262
@sirtacovi3262 7 жыл бұрын
Or in Uncharted 4's case, start with in medias res, followed by a flashback, followed by a flashback but with more flash and less back, then move into the beginning of the story, but then into a flashback to something that didn't actually happen, then move back into the the present!
@balistic9475
@balistic9475 7 жыл бұрын
Sir Taco VI and it still works somehow
@TheMamaluigi300
@TheMamaluigi300 7 жыл бұрын
Balistic947 I don't know, that does sound like a clusterfuck.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 6 жыл бұрын
Sir Taco VI I like how the villain of uncharted 4 is moraly and legaly in the right.
@marleymacneil7966
@marleymacneil7966 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you take suggestions? Because if so, I have an episode suggestion. Magic Systems! I can already see what it might be like... "If you're creating a magic system, don't worry about being original. Just steal it from someone else, that definitely won't seem boring and uninteresting to the reader."
@limazulu6192
@limazulu6192 6 жыл бұрын
Marley MacNeil and don't even bother fleshing said system because it'll eventually be in the way when you've written the story into the corner with no hopes of your main character surviving. Making the powers vague makes it much more flexible and therefor easier to resolve a conflict. But say you've already written a good well rounded yet comprehensible magic system with good rules and have written yourself into a corner because your main bady was competent enough to exploit said rules because you've only now got around to read my comment. In that case just give your character some power which wasn't mentioned before so he can bullshit his way out on the grounds that he's -the protag- the chosen one or something. Never mind that you've just given your MC an unfair advantage thus breaking the power system you've worked so hard to establish. It was just there to get the readers hooked at the exposition dump with the love triangle at the start of the story anyway. And besides by now they've already forgotton half the rules anyway. You could alternatively let the bady just spare the protags life because of his ex machina mood swing of the week so that the protag can conveniently go train at his leisure to defeat him later while the guy just sits there probably doing bad stuff like maliciously watering is plants or something while waiting to get his ass kicked. That would totally not make your readers feel cheated or disengaged.
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853
@hostiusasinhostilityhostil7853 4 жыл бұрын
@@limazulu6192 "maliciously watering his plants" I'm borrowing this for day-to-day conversations.
@Bennumark
@Bennumark 7 жыл бұрын
What makes it worse is when the entire first chapter is just one giant infodump showcasing how special your OC is and how insignificant/better SHE is compared to everyone else, especially in a Crossover and those are infamous for this garbage. Nothing makes u want to burn a book faster than that BS.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 3 жыл бұрын
Which is one barrier that modern readers face when trying to read _Journey to the West,_ because the opening chapters establish Sun Wukong's status as an elaborate metaphor for chaos, the human mind, and other philosophically-relevant stuff...by going through a series of trials which end up awarding him six or seven distinct types of immortality and a bucketload of other awesome magical powers.
@samuelcastelli5782
@samuelcastelli5782 6 жыл бұрын
I love how much work he puts into the little details which go by so fast. It's awesome
@KevinCow
@KevinCow 7 жыл бұрын
This episode briefly touches on symbolism, which makes me hope you'll do a whole episode on that. It's something that's used poorly by so many writers. No, your story's not deep just because you have symbolism implying that your main character is basically Jesus.
@LuizAlexPhoenix
@LuizAlexPhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
BUT! All the Cabalistic mentions! And muh esoteric anagrams!
@nonya_bidness
@nonya_bidness 5 жыл бұрын
not to mention, all these dime-a-dozen jesus allegories often go about their jesus-ing by mowing down bad guys. "what happened to jim?" "the jesus allegory merced him" "oh" "heywaitaminute"
@Rainbowthewindsage
@Rainbowthewindsage 5 жыл бұрын
I had a teacher who gave the advice that the best symbolism happens on accident and you just flesh it out a little more on revision. A good way, I think, to avoid underhanded over the top symbols.
@KingKayro87
@KingKayro87 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, my MC isn't *basically* Jesus... He's *literally* Jesus. But slightly evil. And by slightly, he committed genocide and then fucking died
@erwinkrauss7577
@erwinkrauss7577 7 жыл бұрын
My drug shipment is finnaly there !
@Healermain15
@Healermain15 7 жыл бұрын
*grabs comically oversized syringe*
@MarisaFan411
@MarisaFan411 7 жыл бұрын
*proceeds to die from overdose*
@JeithKarrett
@JeithKarrett 7 жыл бұрын
*gets resurrected by a mysterious butterfly*
@Supergirl0202supercoolzabava
@Supergirl0202supercoolzabava 7 жыл бұрын
plot twist *butterfly is actually evil and sucks his energy now he is just a slave*
@normalgirls1
@normalgirls1 7 жыл бұрын
Whoa, that's a great line to start a book with.
@matityaloran9157
@matityaloran9157 2 жыл бұрын
“If you’re writing a fantasy novel, I’m pretty sure that there’s some sort of law or something saying you have to start with a prologue”. That one killed me. Figuratively speaking.
@REALmikegordan
@REALmikegordan 6 жыл бұрын
Prologue: Focusing on characters from a far bygone era. Chapter 1: Flashback Chapter 2: Flashback within a Flashback Chapter 3: In Medias Reis Chapter 4: POV on completely irrelevant character Chapter 5: Filmmaking POV homing in on main character, before going way overboard on what s/he looks like. Chapter 6: Info dumping on the history of the world. Chapter 7: Info dumping on the history of the home town. Chapter 8: Dark Lord finds Chosen One and destroys his/her hometown, thus beginning hero's journey. Chapter 9: Chosen One learns about the Prophecy, and that s/he is destined to "chose between Jeff or Steve," and to stop to Dark Lord "with the Power of True Love, and maybe with a side of the Power of Friendship." Chapter 10: In Medias Reis is resolved following another action set piece. Chosen One gets captured by the Dark Lord. Chapter 11: Chosen One rambles on and on and on about Environmentalism, and everybody, including the Dark Lord, immediately falls in love with the Chosen One while the evil imperial troops either fall asleep or flee from the pretentious preaching. Chapter 12: The Dark Lord marries the Chosen One, and when he embraces Mary Sue--dah, I mean the Chosen One's--to kiss, he immediately explodes, thus destroying the Dark Lord with the Power of True Love. Chapter 13: With Steve dead, Mary Sue is forced to settle down with Jeff. Unfortunately, Mary Sue suddenly has an epic relapse and suffers a fatalist identity crisis. Which doesn't effect her yet. Chapter 14: Cut to 2000 years later in present day, and Mary Sue is suddenly jaded and with an identity crisis. She has grown into a vegetable where she automatically succeeds in everything. She is unemployed and flat broke, and yet whenever she needs money, she somehow has it. The universe at this point literally revolves around benefiting her at all cost. Chapter 15: No idea how to end the book here. I guess it involves Mary Sue entering a fetal position wondering when or if she will ever die. After all, she sunbathes in the Arctic, goes deep diving into magma, gets eaten by dragons, giants, and other monstrosities, traps herself in an underwater cage with a plastic bag over her head, and skydives while strapped to an anchor. And yet she cannot die, or suffer, or anything. Even if she sits around and does nothing, she still wins at everything, and the whole world loves her unconditionally to the point that nothing has any meaning or purpose to her anymore. It's kind of like a reverse Charlie Brown at this point.
@Bryan-zm4tg
@Bryan-zm4tg 7 жыл бұрын
do animal sidekicks next
@aliciapng409
@aliciapng409 7 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy that this channel grew in popularity during the last months, it really deserves it.
@kabalder
@kabalder 6 жыл бұрын
I think this is the only time, ever, that I've laughed so hard I had to pause everything and recover before continuing. Woooh.. ok, last two minutes.. Seriously wiping tears right now.
@lyndseyf4408
@lyndseyf4408 6 жыл бұрын
This is really helping me gain the confidence to start something I'm making. I was worried I wasn't doing it right, but I am starting with main character motivations and characterizations, and not with prologues and flashbacks like I would as child. So, I guess it's sometimes super helpful to hear what 'not' to do all in a lump like this. Thanks.
@andrewjohnson5307
@andrewjohnson5307 7 жыл бұрын
"Just give them a flow chart or something they'l be fine." Words to live by.
@gonzaminator530
@gonzaminator530 7 жыл бұрын
99% wattpad stories™
@psychwardpussyeater
@psychwardpussyeater 6 жыл бұрын
Evi2 I NEED TO BE IN THE LUCKY 1%
@PhilipHarwell
@PhilipHarwell 6 жыл бұрын
...and the only part I've written of my novel is a prologue with a brief history. it'd be great if I were joking... but I'm not.
@beanburrito4405
@beanburrito4405 4 жыл бұрын
2:09 Nothing against JoJo, but this totally reminded me of Jonathan in Phantom Blood (he did go through an arc first, but it feels like he wasn’t even a main character since his arc was pretty much made to set up Dio and a few other characters like Speedwagon before he died unexpectedly after we got to empathize with him)
@themightypancake5695
@themightypancake5695 7 жыл бұрын
A flashback, within a flashback, inside a dream as part of the prologue that then precedes to a flashback of the In Medias Res that contains a dream flashing back to the prequel that also contains a dream that predicts the ending that won't happen unless there are few more flashbacks to the fourth sequel
@sambutler953
@sambutler953 7 жыл бұрын
This show is actually good advice. I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing with my writing. My characters are inconsistent, my plot never stays in one direction, and my world building skills are non-existent. This show actually shows what not to do with those concepts, and really helps.
@thkoby
@thkoby 4 жыл бұрын
When writing a fantasy novel, be sure to always provide a map so your confusing and unengaging story can be easily charted
@AM-cv9fi
@AM-cv9fi 6 жыл бұрын
This is where I really learn how to write a story.
@dr.j7542
@dr.j7542 2 жыл бұрын
Thats rough buddy!
@curtthekid402
@curtthekid402 7 жыл бұрын
As much as I like this, I feel as though you're going to end up getting "famous" because of your "Terrible Writing Advice" series and not because of your novels (which I should get around to buying, it sounds pretty cool). But hey, at least you could be helping guide and inspire one of the next literary legends of tomorrow!
@kamilee4123
@kamilee4123 7 жыл бұрын
I just started my story so I needed this.
@nerdherd1819
@nerdherd1819 7 жыл бұрын
I actually scrapped the first two chapters (that was how far I was) the day before this video XD...yeah I needed this..
@DaywalkerNL94
@DaywalkerNL94 7 жыл бұрын
Kami Lee openings are the scariest part for me simply because I know that I only have half a page (maybe a page tops) to convince the reader. The result of said fear? Well, right now I'm working on the *eighth* version of my opening chapter. I'm starting to suspect that I'll never finish my story xD
@kamilee4123
@kamilee4123 7 жыл бұрын
Really I'm not super fond of the way my opening went (it's way better than past beginnings to other stories), but it's better than nothing. Honestly I'd just write it and leave it. You can always fix it in the rewrites.
@chestercheetoe2397
@chestercheetoe2397 7 жыл бұрын
Kami Lee, Yay another RWBY fan!
@LoliconSamalik
@LoliconSamalik 7 жыл бұрын
here's an idea. start with characterization. Like, for example, during a geography class my character gets highly invested in the unusual gravity of Oman's mountains while the theme of my story is the beauty of world culture.
@raistlin1357
@raistlin1357 Жыл бұрын
I love the 'bored now' part. Whenever I'm getting bored of something, I always just say bored now in that tone
@ChiakiNanami736
@ChiakiNanami736 3 жыл бұрын
I think the best introduction information dump is Brave New World. I sometimes re-read just that part because it gives plenty to reflect on on its own.
@Riftrender
@Riftrender 7 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't bring up the Love Triangle.
@bishopjackfrost
@bishopjackfrost 7 жыл бұрын
Ik your name is Terrible Writing Advice, but I can't help but take you 100% seriously
@brittlediamond
@brittlediamond 6 жыл бұрын
well, if you're writting a comedy book to make fun of cliches or something, it could work :v
@noyz-anything
@noyz-anything 3 жыл бұрын
I think a way to combine two ideas in this in an actually good way is to start with an intro character, cut to the real main character waking up after seeing the intro character (supposedly) die, and later on reveal that the intro character is actually the villain who miraculously survived but was forever a changed man from the experience.
@MoonPatch
@MoonPatch 5 жыл бұрын
0:30 that chart is actually pretty dang accurate and handy, I might use that sometime
@narutosheep1239
@narutosheep1239 7 жыл бұрын
you should do terrible book review
@colmryan9289
@colmryan9289 7 жыл бұрын
Typing a comment before watching the opening of the video.
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533
@tropetrinitytrilogy8533 7 жыл бұрын
same
@mercedeswalt6621
@mercedeswalt6621 7 жыл бұрын
Colm Ryan blasphemy!
@SimonClarkstone
@SimonClarkstone 5 жыл бұрын
I have also seen an opening dream sequence done well. The brief one at the beginning of _Deep Rise_ by Nighzmarquls establishes that the main character has never seen a sky before and is disgusted by encountering creatures with a skeleton inside them. This intrigues the reader about what sort of waking world they must inhabit. The brief nightmare at the beginning of _Understand_ by Ted Chiang sets up the explanation for how the character ended up in this situation and shows that their memory is improving.
@speedpaintlover2473
@speedpaintlover2473 7 жыл бұрын
An opening line involving the weather... "So how's the weather today?" "Eh, same as always. Terrible, muggy, fire raining down, you know the usual."
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