That’s just the company name not the engineers

@@julvialinares1395 WHAT I’ve been lied too…

Wait. Really? That's not even possible

I know I imagine a company full of teens making stuff

lol. I'm sure they get paid the same no matter what they are manufacturing and for what company contracts them.

You know what, you're probably right, there probably isn't anything like this. And that is why TE have carte blanche to charge whatever they like for their products. Don't get me wrong, I have 6 PO's and an Op1 but £1200 for what is essentially a mixer (everything else could be done with another device) is insane. And TE have put this video and I'm sure more to come, out so they can justify the price, that says to me that they've heard their customers and deep down they know it's not just over priced but wildly so!

Lol

@Bobby Hudson that’s some incredibly amazing cheap labor to justify the price. Fanboys rejoice!

@Bobby Hudson You are allowed to call a product overpriced even if you can afford it! The point is that TE make other stuff at a similar price point that is somewhat more deserving of the high price tag

@Bobby Hudson now good luck making real music with that expensive toy ;)

@Bobby Hudson affordable?? Them mfs are £650!!!

Malaysia Boleh

damn so it IS Malaysia, where do I sign up 🗿

@@sebastienjurkowski YES! Malaysia always Boleh lah!

China Bad

malaysia boleh

They should be able too

doesn't seem china

@@spantax67 The amount of devices are not that much to involve China. China can produce dozens of thousands of devices a month. TE will sell roughly couple thousands a month....

Malaysia (S&O Electronics to be more precise)

Fiji island

great question i wonder the same thing

Exploitation to push expensive toys out to the markets at ULTRA expensive prices !

"we don't employ little kids and/or slaves" probably, at least that's what I took from it

Please TE make this device!!

You can multi track record to your phone or tablet. Since most peoples phones or tablets make better multi tracks than the OP-1 (GarageBand is 32 tracks and free on iOS) there isn’t as much need for a new OP-1. OP-Z is better than OP-1 in so many ways, and again, if you want a multi track, you can just connect it to your phone via usb or line in.

And of course, the screen on a phone or tablet is better than anything TE can produce, and by omitting a large screen the devices can be even more portable. Like OP-Z, which can be used to create amazing visuals even from your existing photos and videos. This also helps bring the price down.

Of course you can do that but there’s nothing like the tape workflow and tactility

@@ropewalkingelephant for sure the OP-1 tape track is a charmer. Many people say it is a limitation, but if you think of it as a performance tool it gets way fun. Maybe in the future TE could release an app that is just an upgrade of the OP-1 tape.

Too late. It’s already decided.

$2,000 dollars? If a new OP ever does come out is going to cost a lot more than that.

OP-Z = OP-2

Best would be OP-D1Y, opening up the firmware to add own effects, new reverbs etc..

Op-1 field is here, with new reverb, aaand 2000...

The box and packaging felt incredibly cheap to me. I expected more from such an expensive product

Don’t forget they can also stop repairing / replacing broken parts for it, once they start charging more for it obviously.

You’re right. They are cutting as many corners as possible.

Well they came out with the OP-Z, which was really the replacement, and uses a smartphone or tablet as a screen, which is way better than the screen on OP-1 anyway. Also a smartphone or tablet can be a better multi track recorder than the 4 track on OP-1. The only thing OP-1 has over the OP-Z is the metal casing. They are both cool devices though.

@@lemonrain2741 OP-Z build quality is garbage. This is a disposable product that you cannot repair in any meaningful way (except for the battery which can be easily replaced). I had two and both had pretty significant issues within less than three months: encoders popping off (can be fixed with plumber's tape lmao), bending case, double triggers on keys, dying LEDs that can't be replaced). It's too bad because it is a really cool product otherwise but honestly TE should be ashamed of the build quality of the OP-Z and should fix it rather than continue to keep selling them knowing all of these issues

I can picture Kink303 using this for his completely portable DJ setup. Wait ! No !! it will look like he is trying to fit a thread into a needle while performing. This is some BS

Regardless where it’s being built it’s a very hands on and small batch assembly process. The tooling and facilities look squared away. I think it’s small minded to assume that only certain parts of the world are capable of making quality electrical equipment.

@@Imetalman2000 You're projecting, it was about them, finding cheap labour, and then charging madness for a good (i think), albeit flawed device.

TE factory is in Malaysia, it's not a third world country, workers are treated well with decent pay, i live here so i know. Ho, they all have manucure if you notice ;)

@@sebastienjurkowski spot on! It's a wonderful country (done some travelling there myself). I know this may sound ridiculous but I've a theory as to why so many Op-z's are bending out of shape. They are using a pretty experimental combination of materials for the main chassis, and I imagine all of the original design/construction/ist builds were all put together in Sweden. Sweden has a very, very different climate compared to Malaysia. Sure, the units may be put together in a climate controlled factory environment, but I can't see that that would be the case whilst waiting to be shipped. Is there a possibility of the very high year-round humidity of Malaysia effecting/causing the op-z to warp? Daft I know, but I am seriously curious. Let's go Genting!

Why would an european company choose to assemble in Malaysia if the labor was not cheap there?

@@AdamHeinrich92 I guess it depends on what is meant by “cheap labour.” When I hear that word, I hear a lot of judgment, including towards the workers themselves, though perhaps that is not what is meant. I am not an economist, but I assume in some countries a dollar can go further. So a person may still make a good living wage or better on what in another country would not be sufficient. Perhaps it is also less expensive to setup a factory. Probably many other variables as well. This would help keep the costs of the TX-6 down while also providing good paying jobs. I think the TX-6 costs as much as it does because it has a particular and very powerful feature set. There is nothing that really compares, that has this particular feature set. I assume that the only way to make it cheaper would be to downgrade the feature set, but I think TE made the right choices. It is not a useful feature set for most people perhaps, but it is a very particular device. So I would assume that if the TX-6 was made in Sweden for example, it would be even more expensive and might not even be feasible, because it is already quite expensive.

I would say some of the cost is down to trying to recoup the R&D, in some of the marketing material they say TX-6 design “over the years”. That sounds like a fair amount of engineering and prototyping to get the product to mass production.

thanx for sharing you're experience, appreciate it.

I bought the Blue Box and return it. The workflow felt so clunky and the recorder is really raw; (no rewind/seek forward?!) Anyway, my TX-6 is out for delivery today!! Can’t wait

Overpriced hipster toy.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Volca Mix? Seriously?

I really don't think it will dominate at this price.

@Bobby Hudson common sense?

@Bobby Hudson if the dope that they smoke makes the average poopoo-head even half as creative as they are I want it to be mandatory, now I have to go edit the rest of my next 3d animated video on my little gray remote

@@xorshidjomjomeh80 lol

Zoom builds synths into mixers too, also with a touch screen, recorder, real inputs, midi, all for a third of the price.

@@ChiefExecutiveOrbiterlisten man zoom is great for what it is, there is also the 1010 blue-box out there, but none of those products are designed from A to Z, now you don't want to see that as an element of value in a product that is your choice...by the way, I also can not afford the TX-6 but that is my problem not the product's problem.

You must have microscopic fingers!

​@@NathanielValdiviano, just not fat ones like most synth nerds

The amount of custom tooling there wouldn’t say to me they’re making them for close to nothing.

@@compositecomposure to charge $1200, I respect everyone's opinion. don't be fooled by that production video. of course its going to sound good too, its not hard to do these days. people who buy into this company should reconsider. 10 years from now their stuff will have low value.

@@markl7520 I understand your point, but I'm not sure if people who buy several TE products are really concerned about a value decrease in 10 years.

@@markl7520 their product from 10 years ago, the op-1, has increased in value

@@markl7520 don't get me wrong, its over priced. But making statements like "they're making them for close to nothing" ignores the R&D, tooling, production test rig, qa etc etc. I disagree on the value in 10 years, that's completely speculative, you could have said the same for Apple at one stage in their past.

Ouch bro. Mega harsh.

What’s wrong with making high profit margin while making it looks like a designer brand product but it’s not ?

@Vytautas 1658 we do not tolerate racist comments in our feeds.

@@teenageengineering it wasn’t a racist comment.

@@teenageengineering I don't tolerate economical exploitation of citizens of poorer countries ;) especially for the sake of higher profit margins for investors. That's mega-nasty

How is it morally wrong?

@@lemonrain2741 my answer from the other comment: you should consider the difference between a worker actually being employed at a company and a factory doing contract work for a company - for example an employee in Sweden has many rights, the employer pays for social security and pension funds, whereas TE probably has no legal obligations towards the factory workers (who get paid a fraction of Europeans), that sit in Asia. And there are environmental and workers safety standards too, that differ greatly between Europe (Sweden) and Asia (Malaysia). Why I stress that "their people" are the Swedish people? Because without Swedish people and culture TE would simply not exist.

if we had choosen 'profit margin', as you put it, over competence and excellent craftmanship, we could probably have made this product anywhere else. instead we choose to employ the highest skilled people on the planet to do the job, and pay them the asking price for their work.

​@@teenageengineering you must be joking, that you didn't want to produce in Sweden (or Europe) because you found higher skilled people in Malaysia. I am sure the savings in regards to labour cost were the essential reason and Malayans of course have lesser workers rights and social security than the average European as well. Energy over there is cheaper and probably dirtier than in Europe. A production over there involves a lot of transportation, because Malaysia sure isn't the biggest market for your luxury devices. And with regards to morals, why didn't you decide to give something back to Sweden and its people? Without your country and your people there would have been no TE, I am sure you know that.

@@damienmachine74 may I ask you, how much does the OP1Field cost in your country, I mean in relative terms? For example here in Germany it costs about a third more than what most people would earn in a month (after taxes).

No one is forcing you to buy anything from them.

They should’ve hired actors lol.