Part Two: Dr. Phil Is Even Worse Than You Think And You Probably Think He Suck

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Part Two: Dr. Phil Is Even Worse Than You Think And You Probably Think He Suck | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert is joined again by Jamie Loftus to continue to discuss Dr, Phil.
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@packman2321 10 ай бұрын

The phrase "Tough love" is always a red flag for me in a medical context. I would go so far as to suggest that it is always just an excuse to justify violent management of people or at the very least to dismiss their experiences as not mattering because the person in power is 'doing it for [their] own good'. Flipping hideous that it still does the rounds in any discourse, let alone medicine, teaching and parenting.

@deefpaladin 10 ай бұрын

So much of Dr. Phil's actual advice is to just work hard even though you feel bad. It's so empty.

@user-kz8zr4si3i 10 ай бұрын

His entire show is just him getting cathartic jabs in on vulnerable people, dude is a shiny scalped parasite

@mattfox2716 10 ай бұрын

Tough love only works when you’re the one dispensing the love…..anyone notice that?

@bretthansen3739 9 ай бұрын

I'm not aware of any times "tough love" was wasn't just code for some kind of abuse or another. It sure was when I was getting that kind of "love".

@sodapopjones260 3 ай бұрын

I think tough love is more about them getting to posture themselves than anything else.

@user-mi4du9rd1j 10 ай бұрын

Dr. Phil is Jordan Peterson for women. That's not a compliment to either of them, BTW.

@Topboxicle 10 ай бұрын

best summary of not-an-actual-doctor phil

@MediaMunkee 10 ай бұрын

I feel like, contrary to _all_ appearances nowadays, Peterson at least had a few valid points to make once upon a time, even if he didn't always draw a sensible origin or conclusion to those points. He was good for provoking actual thought as long as you didn't take his word as gospel. You know, before the trauma and the opiates and the coma managing to turn him into something approaching a living embodiment of the incel subreddit. Fuck everything Dr. Phil has ever done, though.

@user-mi4du9rd1j 10 ай бұрын

@@MediaMunkee Peterson statred as garbage and only got worse.

@AzureDragon158 10 ай бұрын

@@MediaMunkee Peterson was basically a cult leader when he taught at university. The man has always been awful.

@SgtKaneGunlock 10 ай бұрын

theres a reason I call Jordan Peterson "the Canadian Dr.Phil"

@rustkitty 9 ай бұрын

When he introduces that "troubled teen" he sounds like some carnival barker trying to sell us on a freak show, and I'm certain that's exactly what he had in mind. Despicable man...

@miikro 10 ай бұрын

As someone working on a psych degree, making that abused woman relive her trauma in front of a live studio audience, to be broadcasted to millions is so utterly abhorrent. That had to be so deeply and needlessly traumatic for her. All just to publicly shame her husband... Which is actually a terrible way to make people change that often results in a doubling down of behavior.

@cf453 10 ай бұрын

That sounds like a Werner Erhard / EST thing too. I was hoping they had an episode on him.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

I don't think you need a degree to know that its bad....

@grmpEqweer Ай бұрын

I think I watched one episode, it was so awful. People who are struggling need compassion. But one has to also be compassionate to oneself by drawing clear boundaries with the struggling person? I say this as a mentally ill person who is very conscious that I can burn out my friends. I actively try to not be too needy, and to aggressively manage my crap.

@iivin4233 Ай бұрын

I 100% agree that what Phil did there was itself abuse, coming from a "practicing expert" of that kind of behavior. It is legitimately news to me, though, that shaming someone who is doing awful things is bad idea. I can imagine scenarios where it would have bad consequences. However, should there not be a provision to publicly shame and strip of title and license someone like doctor Phil.

@crossroadswanderer 10 ай бұрын

The audio clip of the guy who they got wasted was really heartbreaking. As fucked up as he was, he still obviously understood the situation he was in and felt mortified. It's such an evil thing to do to intentionally put someone in that situation.

@speed0spank 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, it was extremely uncomfortable. I had to fast forward through it and now I'm just thinking how someone orchestrated the whole thing for fun and profit.

@gailcbull 10 ай бұрын

Dr. Phil is the psychopath's idea of what a caring psychologist looks like.

@AutobotChick25 9 ай бұрын

There is something so pathetic about Dr Ph telling a child “Im your worst nightmare” in this context. Its not going to get the child to take him seriously and its very much engaging in a power struggle that plays into her unhealthy responses. Its just meant to seem tough to the audience- but there’s nothing tough about power struggling with a child.

@0okamino 5 ай бұрын

To be fair, he's not wrong about being a nightmare. It's just not in the way he thinks he is. A mustachioed garbage heap like him shambling at me in my dreams would certainly have me in a cold sweat.

@jenniferbrewer5370 10 ай бұрын

Phil McGraw has never even attempted to get licensed here in California because there is no way in hell the CA state medical board would license him.

@ohnoagremlin 10 ай бұрын

the dude they dragged out on stage sounds exactly like someone trying to cope with being tricked and exploited. i know that's just projecting but what a garbage way to show someone

@AngryViking234 10 ай бұрын

Having recently listened to the episodes of Ben Shapiro's terrible book, hearing the phrase "Dr Phil uses sentences" is comparatively glowing praise.

@eruption257 10 ай бұрын

It's worth mentioning that the infamous "STOP BEING POOR" picture of Paris Hilton was photoshopped - she was not, in fact, wearing that shirt, as much as she wasn't actually holding up a copy of Trout Mask Replica at a red carpet event for some reason (as much as I really really wanted her to).

@erf3176 10 ай бұрын

Dr. Phil sending kids to scared straight ranch deals he does business with (and the rehab places) reminded me of those two juvenile court judges from PA that were giving out harsh sentences to kids so they could get paid by the private detention centers. Not sure if they've made an episode of those two aholes. But one of them argued during sentencing that his years of public service should be taken into account for leniency... when clearly, the fact that he was in public service and violated that trust is what made his crime so F-ed up.

@justcommenting4981 10 ай бұрын

Yep.

@noxthemc7717 10 ай бұрын

That's wild on multiple levels

@aazhie 8 ай бұрын

It's chilling, and I hope those judges will lose their ability to work in justice. Disgusting behavior from them and Phil Dx

@Mackerel.Lips-the_Drunkard 6 ай бұрын

Y, there's a couple episodes on "cash for kids."

@dylanrodrigues 28 күн бұрын

I know of them through the Leverage episode inspired by them

@woodencoyote4372 8 ай бұрын

In that clip with the teen, Dr. Phil sounds like a carnival barker outside a freak show tent

@bretthansen3739 9 ай бұрын

I had a high school friend who got sent to one of those child abuse camps. I remember as a damaged young man dealing with trauma of my own wishing all sorts of horrors on the monsters that run those places. As a calmer, happier middle aged man, I still think they deserve just about any bad thing that could possibly happen to them. Child abuse was bad enough when my (very damaged) parents thought it was for my own good. For profit child abuse is a crime against humanity. I remember your article about this, by the way. I really appreciated seeing a major site get that info out. Thank you.

@jcspoon573 Ай бұрын

Marine Corps bootcamp seems to me to be calmer, less traumatic, and rewards you with pay, benefits, and a life path. But I can't really compare, I only ever went to Parris Island, not one of those camps.

@bretthansen3739 Ай бұрын

@@jcspoon573 At least the people running actual boot camps are professionals with a goal of creating an effective fighting force (I've heard that conditioning can do some damage, but it's a calculated choice). These "boot camps" are just run by whoever will answer an ad for a job where they get to abuse kids.

@Chaosqueenngami 5 ай бұрын

This just confirms that it makes sense to be leery of anyone who is friends with Opera and Dr Phil.

@stephenmerriman5620 10 ай бұрын

I have life long depression, I have spent a lot of time in hospitals, I see this as nothing more than how Victorians tours of Bedlam to be entertained by the inmates. I had that experience, of people moving away or flinching when they saw me. This man angers me so much, but then again he is just a bastard, shame the ball didn’t hit the shit head harder. Love your podcast x

@lynnhathaway3755 6 ай бұрын

Dr. Phil and daytime tv is the new Colluseum. The crowds cheer, boo, and clap while dignity dies.

@notoriouswhitemoth 10 ай бұрын

I, sheltered as I am, was able to intuit from context that "catch me outside" meant _step outside with me, where there's room to move and no audience, so we can fight,_ and yet a man who claims to have been homeless acted confused by it.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

What a stupid line of reasoning....

@TSmith-yy3cc 5 ай бұрын

Well, at least Oprah learned her lesson about problematic besties...

@0okamino 5 ай бұрын

Thank goodness for that. Now we can all live happily ever after.

@yourlocalnerd7788 10 ай бұрын

Ah yes the life law of victim blaming

@billmozart7288 3 ай бұрын

I think my favorite Dr. Phil segment was when he had the Bum Fights guy on, and he came out dressed like Dr Phil, mustache and everything, and when Phil tries to do his usual shtick, Ty Beeson says to Dr Phil's face "what I'm doing is no different from what you do" and Phil threw Ty off the show.

@iivin4233 Ай бұрын

Simultaneously the hero we deserve and need.

@LittleMy. 10 ай бұрын

Turnabout Ranch and other troubled teen places could have their own episodes

@Brandon-rt4pp 10 ай бұрын

Dr. Phil is somehow worse than the MadTV version of Dr. Phil

@noxthemc7717 10 ай бұрын

"Or pooping or whatever." How does he know?

@deefpaladin 10 ай бұрын

Phil is not doing therapy, in the same way that a snake oil salesman is not selling medicine.

@loorthedarkelf8353 9 ай бұрын

49:34 Paris Hilton appears to be in the blast radius of her bastard father. Makes ya wonder if she took the role as Amber Sweet in Repo! The Genetic Opera because she felt sympathetic to the character of a daughter who was given everything but what she wanted; because you can't fill the hole a neglectful parent leaves with money, fame, or gifts.

@stephenmerriman5620 10 ай бұрын

I was made sick when I saw he exploited Sinead O’Connor, O couldn’t watch it, I don’t know why she would have gone anywhere near this tormenting bastard.

@mattgilbert7347 10 ай бұрын

"He suck, think I" -Yoda

@kevinroberts3344 10 ай бұрын

Literally JUST finished part one, and subscribed.

@kalenluck 10 ай бұрын

Welcome

@kalenluck 10 ай бұрын

May I suggest the Jordan Peterson episodes for another modern bastard and L.Ron Hubbard for an older one

@russelljackson2818 10 ай бұрын

L Ron Hubbard summoning the antichrist, John Harvey Kellogg, and the Ben Shapiro book reading are good palette cleaners after this if you need something funnier.

@abg5381 10 ай бұрын

Yo the paris hilton 'Stop being poor' thing is BS photoshop job, her actual shirt said stop being desperate

@VildhjartaFanGurl 10 ай бұрын

Skink on a hot rock had me rolling 😂

@ncb1236 9 ай бұрын

It's funny that he would say people do what works, but would then coin the phrase, how's that working for you

@ethos5 9 ай бұрын

If you've never looked into universal health services (UHS, and not to be confused with United Health Services), I highly recommend doing so. Several facilities shut down, plenty of institutionalized abuse (I remember spending several hours one shift trying to find basic hygiene supplies for my patients so they could shower, because there "wasn't the budget for them"), escaped patients because management didn't want to pay for locks that work, etc etc. And again, this wasn't just one facility. Arbor HRI in Mass was one of theirs

@TheAdarkerglow 10 ай бұрын

You've got to give him credit, he's recognized that he's got a great mustache and looks stupid without one, and kept it up for decades. I think.

@fett01 10 ай бұрын

I knew it was going to be bad, I didn't think it was going to get that dark

@aviendha1154 9 ай бұрын

My mother did that to me when I was 10. She just decided I was a monster incapable of love.

@josequins9099 7 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that. I hope you're doing okay.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

Did what? you gave zero context...

@aviendha1154 4 ай бұрын

@@chase5298 did you stop reading after the first sentence, I described that she did literally in the next sentence.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

what is "that"@@aviendha1154

@robertmccarthy2254 6 ай бұрын

Arcadia itself is shady as hell

@Wendy_O._Koopa 10 ай бұрын

My cat walked across my keyboard, so it went back to the part where he says "Now all of that is pretty bad, right? Well it gets so much worse," or something like that. And I was all holy-son-of-a-what-the-Hell, how many more times is this thing going to escalate? But then it sounded familiar, and I was like, oh okay, it's just the normal levels of over-the-top fucked up.

@DexDavican 10 ай бұрын

Man, this episode brought back some bad memories of working in a crappy residential treatment facility.

@josephbrown7762 10 ай бұрын

I find myself disgusted alot with the people you discuss on this show but this one hit a bit personally....It took me and another fellow 6 foot tall man 4 hours to loosen up a stump using axes, sledge hammers, and spikes enough to where a FUCKING TRACTOR could finally pull the bastard out. Whoever made a teenage girl do that on her own deserves types of punishment I don't want to vocalize. Just pure evil.

@justanjustan9624 5 ай бұрын

💯

@Locke_the_cat 10 ай бұрын

does robert evans set up ad pivots in casual conversation

@kyleshelton5734 5 ай бұрын

Should have ended with the bum-fights guy and the guy who decided he was an alien robot because they are both so funny. Big Joel has a pretty good video about the robot guy.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

what?

@lemonscented7703 9 ай бұрын

56:05 between Dr Phil and Vince McMahon and also ofc orange man, why are so many famous terrible people lionized even further in memes like all the time?

@FilthyKingsRock 14 күн бұрын

They definitely put that vodka in that dressing room to get the guy pissed 😮

@akumakorgar 10 ай бұрын

26:40 - Uhhh unless you're a Ninja Turtle? Geez Robert

@Khandrake 10 ай бұрын

i also need to leave now

@VooshSpokesman 5 ай бұрын

Love from a Xanderhal and Vaush fan!

@ronaldswanson8405 7 ай бұрын

Does someone throw up into the mic at 5:33?

@jescon87 10 ай бұрын

Plot twist, Robert is a bastard too lol

@redjirachi1 Ай бұрын

21:57-So what you're saying is that there's something wrong with humanity

@Shadowman4710 Ай бұрын

A reasonable conclusion.

@vfanon Ай бұрын

@@Shadowman4710The only one, honestly

@raycearcher5794 10 ай бұрын

The problem with Dr. Phil is that his approach of "yell at stupid people until they agree to shape up" supposes you are dealing with a rational person who is willing and able to understand your argument and change their behavior. No genuine nut is going to benefit from it.

@kris6038 2 ай бұрын

The point is to make money, not help people. Yelling at someone and blaming them for their problems gives the audience someone to jeer at, and the audience will keep watching if they keep jeering.

@blahanger4304 28 күн бұрын

I blame phil for libs of ticktok.....

@ZorroinArkham 6 ай бұрын

The "no blaming" advice at 12:24 is from Buddhism, don't get angry at Dr Phil for quoting the oldest rich kid con artist in history.

@chase5298 4 ай бұрын

alright pal why don't you crawl back to 4chan

@daniellundberg2875 10 ай бұрын

Seriously though, aren't all children little psychopaths?

@gapsule2326 10 ай бұрын

No.

@W_adama 8 ай бұрын

Your 'funny' commentary and lame-ass side jokes really take away from the meat of the story, which I wanted to hear with earnest. Every time you feel like adding a comment that is dripping with sarcasm, it rips me out of paying attention to the only thing that is actually keeping me listening.

@Mackerel.Lips-the_Drunkard 6 ай бұрын

What a bummer that no other podcasts exist. It seems a flexible platform rife for explosive growth.

@zhitchcresttail3387 2 ай бұрын

What is with all the buzz kills commenting on the podcast?