Thanks, it's very interesting that my measurements line up nicely with your experience as well. In your comparison you even pointed out the interference noise in the UM2. Nice work!!!

@@JulianKrause @Podcastage Having been a fan of both your channels, I decided on the U-Phoria 204HD. Very happy with it. I still have to handle a slight buzz, but I've narrowed that down to the electrical circuit in my room. If I run an extension cord from another room, the buzz is gone, so I was thinking I might get this for use in the room I'm in: www.amazon.com/dp/B0009GI65Q/?coliid=I874HPYKJFW7W&colid=2BFDH3LPKUJ0O&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

@@honeste6652 Hey, I'm not to sure the power conditioner will work. Buzzing sounds usually come from groundloops. Are you using powered monitors on your 204 and are you hearing in buzz in the monitors? Maybe you could try the Behringer HD400 isolator to connect between your interface and the monitors.

@@JulianKrause Hey Julian. Buzz may not be the right word. It's more like a hum, but only when I'm recording through my DBX 286s on mic recordings. It doesn't matter if I'm using a condenser or dynamic mic. I can get some of the noise out using the DBX 286s, but if I simply just plug my DBX 286s in an extension cord in another room, the hum goes away. Wouldn't that be the same as negating the ground loop problem? My monitors are JBL 305p MKII. People complained about the hiss on these, but I gave it a go and bought them about a month ago. I had the same problem, until I used a balanced TRS cable from the 204HD to those and also now only notice it when I turn on my USB connected external drive bay. Since I only use that bay for sound recordings, I only hear it through those monitors while it's on. I'll be solving that at some point when I get an internal SATA card to increase my options in my machine. I have zero sound treatment in my room, but my recordings sound decent raw and great after I've processed them in post. I just want to get rid of this hum, since it's really the biggest problem I have with the raw recordings. Anything to kill unwanted noise in the raw recordings means I'll have a less of a processed sound in the end.

@@honeste6652 That makes it even more certain that it is a groundloop. Just to make sure I understand you correctly: You don'T hear the hum in your monitors but there is some hum in your audio recordings. Right? Where is your output dial on your dbx 286 set at?

Me too. Thank you, Julian.

holy they actually commented

? The hell fl srudio actually commented?

Why did u comment

lmao what the hell

We now have 2021, and the driver issue still persists (yes I know of legacy drivers). I would recommend either or both interfaces as kit for internet choir rehearsals with Jamulus, were it not for an incompatibility even with the newest Asio4all 2.15 - it does not work, hence I cannot. Cheers Klaus

Can u give me the link??

@@klausfohl1028 I agree and am going to put all of my Behringer interfaces to pasture. I recently purchased a Tascam Model 12 which boasts a 12in/10out interface with superb preamps--not Antelope quality, but certainly a par with the Focusrite units many here love. It also is a self-contained no-latency MTR, a very nice little mixing desk with lots of controls and effects, and a basic DAW controller. I am not looking back.

Which one did you purchased? I have the same question like you now

Is it really an upgrade if you increased your noise floor by such a massive margin?

@@skorpers My Steinberg UR22C is dead quiet unless the gain is cranked to maximum. 👍

@@derekfromtauranga6012 Not true. No interface is dead quiet. The signal to noise is worse below maximum as well.

Hey, I don't have a main interface. I change it quite often and always use the one I'm currently reviewing.

@@JulianKrause great! Thanks for the reply. :)

The crackling noises is because of your very low buffer size. Try increasing it

The windows driver can still be found on behringers page: w w w. behringerdownload.de/_software/BEHRINGER_2902_X64_2.8.40.zip

@@Pentti_Hilkuri, it doesn't really solve the problem and in my hands seems to make the problem worse in that when the interface clips software tops out at -6dB and you really can't budge it from there. Despite Julian's reservations, I have been working with the ASIO4ALL drivers in Cakewalk, Waveform Free, and Reaper, and manage to get acceptable results. Indeed, Reaper and Waveform allow you to adjust input gain to bring the clipping levels into alignment, and Cakewalk, for some reason, seems reasonably aligned with no grief at all. Also, I have the UMC202HD Behringer driver on my machine (it is a good one and enhances the performance of that device), and it does not coexist nicely with 2.8.40 driver for the UM2. So I took the latter off and when using the UM2 I use ASIO4ALL pointed at the generic Windows USB Audio Codec--you do this by calling up the ASIO4ALL control panel in software or from its icon on the task bar.. Despite Julian's experience I have very few problems. But I do agree that Behringer should provide a driver that settles this clipping level issue. The UMC202HD doesn't have it, nor it seems, do more expensive inferfaces from Roland and Rode, etc.--they just "work."

@@leswright4108 I have have the UMC204HD and in Win7 I have to use really old driver to fix the -6dB clipping problem (2.23?), in Win10 the newest UMC driver works properly.

I take it all back. I took ASIO4ALL off e, installed the 2.8.40 driver for the UM2 and the reinstalled the specific driver for the UMC202HD. I educated myself about how to properly access the specific audio settings, and in tinkering with those buffer settings and latency rates I figured that on my modest little machine I shouldn't expect miracles with respect to latency rates. Once I eased up on those settings everything records fine and plays back without snaps or pops. The drivers coexist fine with each other, and as long as I set up things correctly in whatever DAW I am using (these days the focus is on Cakewalk) all is fine. As far as the clipping misalignment goes, it still happens with both these interfaces, and if I really insist on 0 dB as my clipping threshold I can ad about 2.5 dB input gain. But this seems pointless as in proper gain staging the initial tracks should peak rather short of 0dB and we aren't in clipping danger there.

If you use the interface for output and have your headphones plugged into it, you can get a bit more volume if you max out the volume on the PC and crank up up the interface output.

Hey, you will need an interface with two line level inputs. One thing you could do is to connect the "record" RCA output of the Xone 23 to a Behringer UCA202. Another solution would be to use your "master" out and go into a Behringer UMC202HD.

@@JulianKrause Thank you! Im mostly looking for a quality recording, so I suppose i should jump to UMC202HD? Will UMC22 work the same way?

@@hsx7576 I wouldn't say that you necessarily have to get the UMC202HD. The UCA202 might be just fine. The UMC22 will not work, because it does not have two line level inputs.

@@JulianKrause that's noted. Thk u very much for ur help!

tell me if you got drivers pls

@@jyotipatel-td9dx i plug it, and it runs smoothly, no probs at all!

The windows driver can still be found on behringers page: w w w. behringerdownload.de/_software/BEHRINGER_2902_X64_2.8.40.zip

Hey, you can output sound from your PC to the headphones and when you activate direct monitoring you will additionally hear the sound that is recorded by the interface in real time ;)

@@JulianKrause thanks! I was really beginning to worry since I already ordered it

@@JulianKrause Hi Julian, does it mix then the pc audio output with the mic In on the headphone speaker ?

Depends on the use case, but likely yes. The UMC202HD comes with a dedicated ASIO driver, so latency roundtrip times will be much better. There are 2 XLR/jack combo ports, so you could record two mics or 2 instruments at the same time if needed. The HD can also record 192KHz/24-bit resolution, and seems to have a much bigger dynamic range.

Go on the umc22 😉

I'm currently having issues getting the interfaces to work... Regardless, set the level slider in the windows sound settings to 69. This will get you close to the optimal setting and should give you low noise recordings. Cheers!

@@JulianKrause Thanks Julian! It looks like this interface, though not USB 3.0, likes the bandwith of it. I set my Driver settings to minimum latency on the legacy behringer ASIO driver and it works wonderfully. 1.1ms latency.

Hey, the UM2 and UMC22 only have one mic input. If you want to get the cheapest two channel interface you might want to a look at the Behringer UMC202HD.

@@JulianKrause Thanks for the quick reply! Appreciated :-) What happens if I plug a Microphone to the Inst input? Is there a video explaining that? Or is it just a no no and will break gear.

yeah you definitely need the balanced outputs for monitoring!

Hey, the manufacturers tolerances regarding the frequency response are often quite a bit worse than they are in practice. For example, I measured the frequency response of the mic input of the 2i2 and it is pretty much perfectly flat: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMp4aMafz9PKhZc.html And pretty much all the interfaces I tested in the past had a near perfect frequency response in the audible range. If I find the time, I will measure the UMC22 but I can't promise it.

What exactly do you mean by poor audio quality? Does it stutter or distort? Is the audio quality still bad when you render the video? Might be a problem with the application. Or could it be something like this: www.reddit.com/r/premiere/comments/8b82p3/help_noise_reduction_audio_effect_has_23_seconds/

@@JulianKrause So i edit the audio, Get it sounding goodish, then once i edit the video and make cuts the audio is bad for about 1.5 to 2 seconds after each cut. so if i make 50 cuts in a video that is alot of crap audio.

@@SeedubsMedia Sorry, no idea. I don't use Premiere and I have the feeling it is an issue with the software. Maybe someone is an Adobe Forum can help you out.

@@JulianKrause (Bro.)

I haven't specifically tested the output of these interfaces but they should work fine for music playback. Your M-Audio BX5a has a balanced input, so I would recommend you go with the UMC22, which has balanced outputs.

Thanks. Do you know is Scarlett Solo has balanced outputs?

@@henriquecorreia9917 No, it doesn't. It got unbalanced RCA outputs.

thank you it was very helpfull to me

UMC204HD literally has midi and greater amount of I/O + is cheaper and much lower noise.... what. When you wrote this comment the UMC204HD was $79.

Schwer zu sagen, wo genau das herkommt. Aber alleine das unterschiedliche Board Layout könnte schon dazu beitragen, dass irgendwo Störsignale in den Audiopfad gelangen. Habe auch schon bei anderen Geräten gesehen, dass die Spannungswandler für die Phantomspeisung solche Effekte entstehen lassen. Solange da im FFT nur eine Mini-Spitze zu sehen ist, ist das normalerweise auch kein Problem. Beim UM2 war die Phantomspeisung aber aus und es übertreibt trotzem ein bisschen ;)

Excellent reviews, the best i've ever seen, i'd say

Hard to say, define "best". Both will get the job done. If you're on windows I would say go with the Solo. The UMC22 and UM2 have some driver problems under windows.

@@JulianKrause if i use focusrite solo i need to install driver or i can use without drivers

@@MJ_Pictures_Studio If you are on MacOS you should be fine without a driver. If you use Windows I suggest you install the provided driver from Focusrite.

Is the behringer UMC22 good on Ubuntu/ElementaryOS/ZorinOS? I hope it works out well there