The funny thing about all of this is that MoFi isnt they only one . They were the first to get caught. I am sure other record issue companies are doing the same

This was an interesting and original take on the situation and I thank you for making it.

Amazing reaction. Well done. YT needs more from this kind of video!

This was one of the most sincere overviews of this story I’ve seen. Very nice ✌🏻 but I think it’s silly when people don’t open their records. It’s the music imho.

This video appears to me as one of the most sincere of all the comments I’ve read. IT leverage the issue at the proper level. I can Feel your pain as a collector .

I don't know too much about audiophile issues but your shirt is jamming

To play devil's advocate, MoFi records still have grooves and played on turntables with cartridges. Hence it still analogue mediums and systems.

This is what I posted on dagogo site Sandro Ioia August 16, 2022 at 8:15 pm Ignorance is bliss they say. After learning of the news of Mofi’s use of DSD, it hardly mattered to me sound wise as many Lp re-issues are sourced from digital files. However I have bought LP’s that were recorded from the original master analogue tapes and those that were mastered to digital. The fact remains that I was given the choice to decide to buy an LP with the knowledge that it was an original analogue or digital source. Mofi has deceived there niche market and the audiophile community.

I think I was WAY more swindled by "Simply Vinyl" audiophile records than by any other audiophile record company ever could. I bought two Simply Vinyl $30 each and found that it was no more than an ordinary pressing done in 180 grams. Since then I've learned that if I see "180 Gram", it has to be from a company that I know to make real audiophile pressings and not just a bunch of jerks that thought they could pass off a regular pressing as "audiophile" just because it was 180 gram.

Really good point - how many have heard the various master tapes in question these days! "The way the original artists/producers/engineers etc have quality-checked "everything" - before saying OK to a good enough test pressing (& ready for the mass-marked)

Well spoken and passionately delivered. I'm with you point for point on this. 👍 #subbed

BTW - Does MoFi cut their lacquers at half speed like they used to? I don't recall they mentioning it they way they used to.

I wish i had the money to at least start listening to vinyl.

Great Channel! Here's my take on MOFI: you only want the "thin" pressings (standard thickness, early ones) , The EARLY UHQR's are great but NOT the later, post CD era issues. All the later pressings including the later UHQR's are clearly not the sound quality of the early pressings. (early meaning before CD's and Later meaning when they started up making records again after CD's became commonly used)

We digital folks got hosed on the brickwalled cds!

The real dummy's are the people who mow think their CD's are as good as analog now.great video.

Good video! Spot on analysis

I'm 60, so I have many original MFSL pressings from the early days.When Music Direct resurrected MFSL (and renamed them MoFi), I always felt they were being disingenuous about their products.Just another symptom of being in the now.These days suck. If you launch a class action, let me know.I have 10 OneSteps unopened.

Good analysis. I concur. I never bought into the new record hysteria. This was the reason. IN MOST CASES, YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING. Most new records have no information as to the source used, but are still quite expensive. I will only pick something up if it is cheap. The only way to win at this game is not to play it. I suspect MOFI is not the only one engaged in this deception. They were just the first to get caught. As for scorning people who "can not tell the difference" I think the people saying this are being foolish, missing the point. This whole industry is tainted due to lack of transparency. That is the point. Caveat emptor

These disheartening MoFi revelations remind me of the old Piltdown Man scandal in the 1950's when it turned out that the worlds oldest human fossil supposedly discovered in the early 1910's (in jolly ol England) turned out to be a big fraud.

No label will let their master tapes out of their possession anymore. Most audiophile labels use digital transfers.

Thanks for a great video. I only have one silver mofi record but I'm not gonna buy from them again. Don't trust them.

Dang you are 100%right. What is your opinion on Michael Fremer

Plus their main thing when they started was more directed at 1/2 speed mastering. And when Mo-Fi started they never claimed the limited copies where because they didnt want to play they tape again. In fact when they started the pressings where done from a stamper from a mother. Wilson didn't say it was the closest to the original master tape, he remixed and made a new master. Like I said in previous post Mo-Fi should have been more transparent but at that level of digital and that early in the record making steps you can't hear the difference at the record. Fact if you did an A-B of the tape and that level of digital nobody can tell. I understand the anger at Mo-Fi not dispelling the assumptions made by everyone, but law suit? Many,many things are unethical but not illegal. Really, it's still a superior record, tho I wouldn't pay that anyway. Santana play's Black Magic Woman just as good on my original copy as on my slightly better pressing and just as good as on the Mo-Fi. I do prefer records, there is a difference between them and CD's but I'm more obsessed with hearing music I like than the absolute best copy. If your noticing differences in the medium, your not fully engaged in the music.

The fact is that you've invested so much time and emotion into this illusion, that 100% analog in distinguishable from digital, that it makes it impossible for you to see the criticisms of analog purists. In your video you compare digital to "synthetic" drugs and "faux" leather. There is nothing fake or synthetic about digital. It is simply the most logical and best way to store/preserve media, end of discussion. You've been brainwashed by years of thinking digital is a low resolution MP3 file. Of course they made a digital master from the tape! Of course! No company who owns these tapes is going to allow some company to run that original master over and over and over again to please some microscopic group of analog purists. They use a digital step because it is the only pragmatic way of doing what they do, and gives them the opportunity to produce that AMAZING sound. The sound you and other analog purists LOVED. The sound analog purists used to demonstrate how great analog can sound. Mobile Fidelity proved you can't distinguish the sound of a record cut from a great digital master and a record cut straight from the tape. You cant. You cant. Stop thinking you need an excuse to enjoy vinyl.

There are a TON of reviews of Digitally sourced music against OG Vinyl pressings and the OG is usually the better. MOFI has made some great records...the biggest issue is THE Lie. Their Literature and their KZfaq channel state All Analog...it is a lie no matter how it is spun and using a DSD step should have been stated right on their product. They have acknowledged this in their 'online apology'. I would buy a Steven Wilson before MOFI. I like my Steven Wilson Aqualung. Good Video man

Mo-Fi used the original master tapes to create a digital copy. so the end result was sourced from original master tape, no mis-representation there. The entire process mixing, eq etc., of cutting the lacquer was done in the analog domain. Did they claim they were actually running the master tape as the were cutting the lacquer? not that I can find. Was it just assumed by the so called audiophiles? What does ass u me spell? Did Mo-Fi actually say there was no digital step anywhere, not that I've found. The limited number of pressings is because of using the father plate instead of a stamper made from a mother, (one step records). Not because they didn't want to run the tape again. Seems people made a lot of assumptions. Did Mo-Fi do anything to dispell these assumptions, no, but are they legally required to if they never actually made the claims and people just assumed? Not a very up front way of doing things but illegal, doesn't appear so. Fact is by the time you get to the record, nobody on planet earth could tell if they were running the tape or a digital copy.

I heard Santana was digital

My friend, you said the point of the video was to ‘refute the point no one can tell the difference.’ Then spent the time telling us you feel disrespected by those calling you out because YOU couldn’t tell the difference btwn digital and analog cut vinyl. Then added in why folks shouldn’t be called out for this inability. I’m just noting the video seems to be kind of all over the place. Maybe just address one subject per video?

If MoFi is the very best then What’s the problem really?

Nice video

People who Buy phamasutical drugs don't set themselves up as aficionodos fool and THEY can for sure Tell The difference

I wonder how original purchases of the MFSL release of The Beatles "Magical Mystery Tour" must have felt when they dropped the needle on the record and heard what they truly believed to be music sourced from the master tapes when in reality they were at least 3rd generation dubs from Capitol along with fake stereo mixes? Until now, it was MFSL's (MoFi now) biggest fiasco and scandal. But we can't really blame them as they believed they received a master tape from EMI.

Here's the sad truth: NOTHNG will happen to MoFi. They've already issued a half-assed "apology" but only because they were caught, and only after there have been video after video of music reviewers who are upset about this FRAUD. Will MoFi issue a full refund for every record returned (postage on their end), or will they issue each verified purchaser a discount voucher for every item they've bought for future purchases? No matter what happens, a couple of things for sure (1) Their reputation is shot (2) They won't issue any type of compensation that is of much value to anyone, especially those who are so pissed they've vowed never to buy from them again and (3) Their infamous "1 Step" crap is down the toilet. When you look at it, had they just stuck to issuing albums as they've always done, perhaps nothing would have been discovered. But they got too greedy and when they started to charge $125 + for a "1 Step", then added "Thriller" to the list fo releases, a "limited edition" of 40,000 copies, it raised red flags for even the casual listener. Are they going to cut 40 lacquers and play that master tape 40 times? Will Sony allow this? And that's what ultimately unraveled the fraud. Class action lawsuit? Unless MoFi issues more than that half baked BS robo-statement, and very soon, I'd say that their other problems will pale in comparison to the flood of lawsuits they'll be receiving.

The only reason to have TT is to hear albums that are rare and not available in other formats. Do you still watch a B&W TV with a round picture tube and rabbit ears? When the CD was first introduced an album cost $6 and a CD was $15. Now an album is $20 or more, and a CD is still $15 or less! And CDs don't degrade the more they are played. I have some that are over 30 years old and are as perfect as the day I bought them. Of the over 600 CDs I own, I've only had one ever that skipped, and all I had to do was clean it with a little Windex. The argument here is not that vinyl is better. If you want to believe it is, with no proof, that's ok, if it makes you happy. The problem is that MoFi lied to their customers, while charging insane prices at the same time.

Master tapes are only used to make a second tape from which the stampers are made. You keep using the term "Master Tape", and frankly it became confusing. Look, no one could tell the difference for years. They have been making high quality sounding vinyl records for years. Stop crying, listen to some good vinyl, and just get over it.

Couldn't care less about mofi . I m blame the pretentious audiophiles . You want analogue buy records pre 1979 second hand

It's fun to laugh at pretentious snobs who think they have sophisticated ears.