RIGHT!! how isn’t this regulated?? I’m all for them but I don’t think it should just be a certificate

I agree.

In California it is regulated. Must pass a certification test, do continuing education. It is not an easy process here. I am a Death Doula and had to have certification also. It is all about support and information. This was a bad Doula. In California Sooo many people take their placentas home to plant a tree. All Placentas are saved in Pathology for 7 days. It is the Law. I just walked down to the lab and picked mine up. I am sorry that they lied to her.

@@moniqueengleman873 what is a death doula?

@@honeyvoss1477 It is the person that supports the dying and having their wishes respected. Then as the transition begins I support the family with empathy and information about the stages of dying. We also create rituals and memories to create a deep and moving experience. We have "Death with Dignity" here in California. It is revolutionary in its' concept of death on their own terms.

Exactly!

Right and how is that an unnecessary barrier?! Covid is real!

@@popcorn526 the barriers are unnecessary at these hospitals and there’s more serious virus than coronavirus such as, Ebola, Influenza (flu) caused a lot of deaths and HIV. Hepatitis and HIB. Also, I work at a hospital and most infectious diseases are contracted in hospitals because healthcare staff neglects hand washing from patient to patient

Maybe she came to that conclusion after the event. It doesn't mean she knew.

@@tortillero3138 You are responding to the wrong person. I think you meant Michelle.

@Tiger Bandaid Google the stats. It’s true. It’s sad that you don’t understand how the world actually works. There are two things: 1. the way the world *should* work and 2. the way the world *does* work You might want to learn the difference sooner than later. Also, you’re not going to get very far in life as an ignorant, unkind, racist person. Good luck with all that tho.

I absolutely agree! She should be tested regularly 2 times monthly to assure she will be able to serve her clients on demand. That’s just ridiculous that she said during her testimony that her and her partner don’t walk around with a negative Covid test. Well if you are a professional “ YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE A NEGATIVE TEST”! How else would you be able to perform your specific work duties. This make no sense at all.

@@Blessed241 for real. Very sad because doulas are really needed and need to be trustworthy. The fact the hospital accepts 14 day tests gives her absolutely no excuse. I feel bad for the mommy because she had to be stressing.

The Doula should be ashamed of herself I hope the plaintiff gives her a bad review so others will be aware

I would want to be tested twice a month If i knew I would be around a newborn baby.

She obviously doesn’t believe in the foolishness regulation.

Exactly!

What did she say that doula is not in the medical field but last time I checked, common sense is everyone's profession. You know you going to be around the mother, baby and Dad and you have so many other clients during a pandemic. Why would you not just already have weekly or bi-weekly test done. Not the only Hospital asking for that documentation upon entry.

I agree. I owned a service business that operated in nine states in the US during the early COVID times and each city, county, and state had their own rules. I had to wake up two hours early everyday and go through my list of government websites to make sure that I was up-to-date on everything. All she had to do was call a couple hospitals. It couldn't have taken more than ten minutes.

THEY ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND ARE NOT NOR CAN BE REGULATED

@@troyporter6323anything can be regulated, the government just needs to be involved

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our doula showed up at the last minute and just stood there like she was special for pictures when she did NOTHING FOR US 🤦‍♂️SMH

Yeah I couldn’t believe she blamed the hospital. For making sure no infected people come in!

A doula is not a mid wife...they are there to help out ..not deliver..geez

Congrats

She did and probably still doesn’t get it

@@bobbleheadmoe she is programmed and conditioned like hard cement

@@bobbleheadmoe she has no business sense

She ain't miss it...she just didn't wanna take that vaccine which would cause her to take the test

I know right!

It actually not because the first month you technically aren’t pregnant. Week 1 is your period and then next week 2 or 3 is ovulation and the week after implantation. So that month you actually aren’t technically pregnant but that’s how they count it.

@@anhenry2998 that is so wrong. They don’t count the week you have your period lol. I didn’t have a period when I fell pregnant so what??

Yes its 10 lunar months If you make it that long ;)

@@stephaniehowe0973 By the way drs count it yes 10 months. But technically you do not carry a baby for 10 months. As I said, if you subtract your period, ovulation and implantation then it would not be 10 months. It’s only 10 because they consider your first month from the first day of your last cycle but you aren’t actually pregnant at that point. Are you pregnant before you conceive while on your period? I think not.

I was like wow, never heard of that before until now and I must say that has to be a wonderful experience

That does sound like a really cool idea its sad her and her daughter won't be able to do that maybe she can go out and buy a sapling with the money she's getting back and plant that with her daughter.When my husband was a kid my mother in law would get live trees for X-mas and afterwards she planted them in her yard she has around 10 of them in her yard i always thought that was a cool idea.

I’m not gon lie, shit made me cringe lol I for one never ever heard of this. And seeing that placenta come out, nearly fainted lol

@@andrejamal5438 I'm sorry that you had that reaction. I wanted to see mine, but didn't have room to plant a tree on mine or I would've don't it

I'm a bit lost here. What does 'color' have to do with it? I can understand the "experience" part but it seems that the plaintiff is more concerned about the afterbirth not being saved.

I agree. She is a horrible doula and completely in the wrong line of work if she's not gonna care about the birthing mother. A doula is supposed to support, advocate, educate, assist, encourage, protect, etc...A LOT of things she didn't do and appears to not even be capable of. She seems so cold.

@@4everThoughtful there’s a deeper explanation as to why Tiara mentioned a woman of color. To sum it up quickly is that, it has been stated in many cases that women of color have not been taken seriously when it comes down to pain levels and other complications when a woman is giving birth. Also, the death rate is high in Women of color so seeing as though she hired a doula who is a woman of color, she was hoping for a different outcome instead of the traditional hospital birth. Either way, it was inconvenient and expensive hospital birth. I’m happy she and the baby are healthy and that’s all that matters.

That’s exactly what I was thinking.

@@yayaminah7908 I was responding but realized you provided a more comprehensive response. Didn't know such a role existed until now. The doula in this case is in the wrong. Hopefully, she'll take the ruling seriously and implement the steps that the judge mentioned

I agree she was a horrible doula. Entirely the wrong line of work for her. She seemed cold and had a bad attitude. Not to mention unprofessional.

Lol right? And then she gave some sob story about how that experience was taken from her, because why? Did she not have the ability to ask for it herself while she was at the hospital. The plaintiff just gave me an icky vibe!

That's rough. Studies show that babies who are not held by their aunties in the first 24 hours after birth are not likely to suffer any physical or emotional problem because of that. However studies also show that 90% of aunties are likely to complain about it for 30 years or more.

@@Channel-JJ LMFAO it’s almost appreciated that no one is allowed. I’m happy no one is allowed except 2 ppl

@@Channel-JJ I said it was unfortunate but I never said it wasn't necessary. You're hilarious btw. I'm sure you are a blast at parties.

@@SipLikeTea I'm glad too. I never said I didn't understand why those are the rules right now. It's necessary to keep my sister and the baby safe. I just said it was sad.

@@Channel-JJ also it was my first time becoming an "Auntie" so I'm just sad that I will never get that experience back again.

awesome, why?

THEY ARE NOT MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND ARE NOT NOR CAN BE REGULATED

Wtf, $1800 is considered a lot but not $1,500? That’s not even a big difference.

@@honeyvoss1477 😁😁 I have to agree. $1800 is certainly not much more than $1500.

A doula isn't giving birth to your baby though. A midwife does all the services that an obstetrician (OB) does. $1,500 for BOTH services or $1,800 for just the doula who can't birth your baby and is solely there for mother's comfort.

@@honeyvoss1477 You aren't understanding what I wrote. How much for OB/midwife services in addition to doula cost? In comparison I spent $300 more for 10 months of medical visits, tests, the delivery and aftercare. A doula can't birth the baby and is there solely for mothers comfort.

A family friend also birthed a kids at home, with the help of a midwife.

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Saving placenta isn’t normal practice so they don’t do that for women of any color. It doesn’t have Jack to do with your race. My placenta wasn’t saved for 3 children, I’m white. If you don’t ask them to save it they won’t. And there are so many people working in a hospital setting I’m sure it is easy for something to slip through the cracks.

@@anhenry2998 Thats not true. I had my placenta saved for 2 of my children that were born in the hospital because my midwife saved it. @Nanny News & Views states she requested them to save it and they ignored her request after telling her they would save it. And its is a well known issue that women of color are treated the worst during Labor and Delivery.

@@anhenry2998 definitely normal

How someone is treated in a birthing situation is reliant on many factors-race isn't the end all be all. I had my first 2 children as an older teenager and was treated like an uneducated, voiceless baby vessel because I didn't know what to expect, ask or accept. My other two were born in my 30's. By then, I directed my care. I'm black and believe me, if I were rich and/or famous, I would have a much better birthing experience than someone with less money and/or prestige then me- color notwithstanding.

@@anhenry2998 I asked them(stated above)....and its still has to do with race beyond just. It's a system that assumes we don't have insurance or enough education on the topic to ask the right questions. Or to be heard when we say "something dosen't feel right" If your not aware that this happens that is fine. But I am, so don't be another person who won't listen to us. We are collectively having these experiences all over this country.

Not everyone understands the clinical obstetric definition of premature.

@@roslynhawkins1475 Yeah that's what I'm talking about.

They didn't give you your placenta. You mean you had to waste money on take out, that's rough what did you get?

I'm running into that issue too.

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I caught that also lol

Same!

Exactly

...how is a baby a miracle? it's science lol

"miracle baby"? Sperm + egg. No miracles there.

@Ms.C you can be happy for someone without using incorrect terminology

Every baby be a miracle

@@manthony777 how is it a miracle? A miracle is something that cannot be explained. We know how it happens.

How you get treated then?

Long Island!!

22 and you didn't have any friends or family that have given birth, that's rough girlfriend.

KZfaq birthing vlogs are my favorite! 😍 it's amazing what you can watch and learn from educated professionals for free. I just had a baby 11/20/21 & used the videos from various midwives & doulas to refresh my breathing techniques during labor. It's an invaluable tool 😊

debunk is not the right word when you debunk something you reveal it was not truthful and if a video is not truthful it 100% needs to b debunked but i get what you are trying to say

True

So you had a midwife and a doula, how many people made up the film crew?

@@Channel-JJ you sound ignorant Af

I hear you, but give me a bed an an epidural any day. I delivered my first baby-9 lbs 1.5 ozs, 21.5 inches long without any pain relief and a 2nd degree episiotomy...after that I said nope, get me an anesthesiologist lol

@@blaq_betty dang girl you sound like your cousins, Whyte Betty, Blu Betty and Yelloh Betty.

I thought midwife and doula was the same thing. What's the difference?

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but not all of them so your comment means nothing to anyone

Yes NOW, back then the 'rapid' antigen test didn't exist, and it was the full PCR test and it took a couple of days...

I thought that you were kidding! I was actively watching the case when I responded initially. In hindsight, it's kinda cool!

@@RooseveltAliWashingtonX It is an old African Tradition. The Younger Generation is not so much into doing it, but it is still a tradition for many.

@@arlenecoggins-john3795 -- Thanks for sharing!

@@RooseveltAliWashingtonX is always a pleasure to share tradition and culture.

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Exactly! Why pay a stranger who may not have your best interest at heart!

You don't know everyone's circumstances. Be thankful you have the support of your family. Not judgemental.

Right! What was that about? 🙄

“Mothers and birthing people”, as if men can give birth also 🙄. It is either mothers, or mothers to be. Females.

It is for surrogates and women who put their babies up for adoption. These women are not considered mothers.

@@jessicapaulin1260 very irritating. Those are for people trying to be inclusive of trans people and gender non-confirming people who want to challenge all the rules of womanhood and motherhood.

@@Nayahpooh012 Exactly!!! I find it offensive to women/mother's!! With everything we go through during our pregnancies and giving birth but yet the pc police wants to be inclusive to transgenders frankly it pisses me off we earned the right to be called mother's. I see this as an attack on our rights as a woman away from us.

Beautiful story!

Pregnancy is governed by the lunar calendar. 7 days in a week. 28 days in a month. That makes it 40 weeks. I have tested positive at 10 days with both of my kids and was definitely considered pregnant...lol

@@mzche1999 yes but the way we calculate pregnancy is by first day of lmp. So by the time a bfp shows up you already passed 2 weeks of waiting for ovulation and then the week after conception. Making you technically already "3 weeks" or "4 weeks" when in reality you are only 1 or 2 weeks. That's amazing you got bfp so soon though. It isn't the same for all of us lol Sometimes what can happen also is that a woman can have irregular periods. That can throw off our whole calendar. Anyway, I still think a woman is pregnant only 9 months, not 10 lol Thank you for the chat. Have a good day and God bless.

Have you ever actually been pregnant?

@@mzche1999 yes I have. Which is why I wanted a doula. It would be kind of weird to have one just because 🤔

@@rafymayrivor9295 I was a high risk patient who saw one of the best perionatologists in the country, both times. I found out at 10days with early pg tests and blood work. She definitely says that pregnancy is 40 weeks based on the lunar calendar. In any event, I have 2 beautiful children. I wish the best to everyone one trying to conceive. It can be hell!

Does not stop you from getting or spreading

Even if vaccinated, people should still get regular tests because the vax doesn’t keep people from getting and spreading it. The fact that vaccinated people as a whole don’t realize this leads to an assumption of “100% protected” that’s very harmful.

Yes

What was the point of this? If you gonna give words or encouragement just do that. The extra is not needed. It’s ok if you can’t have children. Or don’t want children. Nobody asked you for all that though. I swear this is weird as hell.

If you and your “husband” been happy and child free for 19 years, then why did you get under other posts saying that you couldn’t live with a man and you and all of your “boyfriends” lived separately. And also that you have a house paid for and ALL to yourself????🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

@@blacknerdygirlsrock somebody’s granny who doesn’t know about the new features is posting lol#AndSheOOP

@@blacknerdygirlsrock My boyfriend and I do live separately. Where in the above post did I say my boyfriend and I live TOGETHER. We have just been a couple for 19 years. Try reading comprehension.

@@blacknerdygirlsrock Wow. Somebody is triggered today. 😂

I don't think it's unreasonable for a doula to be tested every 14 days since they have multiple patients that give birth each month. Taking the test twice a month to be able to enter the birthing unit at any time shouldn't be a big deal. They could even include the cost of covid testing for all the doulas at the agency into the fees that they are charging 🤷🏻‍♀️

@@lemondew8138 absolutely..she should have rapid tests on hand.. They are sold in every pharmacy.. She's completely unprofessional.

@@mrshappilymarried1 incorrect, there are plenty of pharmacies that do not carry rapid tests whatsoever and the places that do don't always have them in stock.

@@lindseyyoung9149 She was a Lousy Lying ass Doula. Period. She stole the lady's money and had to pay most of it back. CORRECT!

@@mrshappilymarried1 yikes! Perhaps you need a damn chill pill huh?

I wish I could give your comment 10 likes. “Birthing People”… that crazy BS, talking about how men can give birth. Um, yeah, because they’re actually pre-op and still women, regardless of how they identify. We cannot let these woke/leftist/progressive ideologies change words the way they do. Taking the meaning, sacredness, and significance out of Mother, Father, Child, Family.