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“It’s a dangerous thing to mistake speaking without thought for speaking the truth.” -Benoit Blanc

"Your character doesn't live up to the stereotype I'm trying to force on it, so that means you're a bad writer" is certainly an opinion worthy of Ben Shapiro.

The biggest plot hole in glass onion is a group of friends all showing up to social plans within minutes of each other

Ben getting the country Birdie's sweatshop was in wrong is litteraly him accidentally repeating a joke and plot point from the first Knives Out about how awfull and ignorant the elite is. Most screen writers can't write irony this good

Ben Shapiro the kind of guy to think Miles Bron is the protagonist

While I'm not going to argue that Shapiro ISN'T an idiot, I think his inability to understand Glass Onion mostly comes from bad faith, from him being unwilling to engage with it. I'm sure Ben went into this movie with the intention of taking it down somehow, because it's a Rian Johnson movie starring a black woman with anti-rich themes. Basically, Ben didn't pay attention to Glass Onion because he was way too busy looking for things to get angry about, as usual.

Rian Johnson is probably snickering because he's got a new character for the third knives out.

Ben is the freshman who thinks he knows more than the professor after reading the first chapter of the textbook. In Econ 101 you learn the equilibrium of supply and demand; in Physics 101, you learn the apple falls to the ground due to the force of gravity; in Storytelling 101, you learn a story has three sections, a clear protagonist and an antagonist... then you learn nothing is quite that simple.

reminder: Ben Shapiro is a failed SCREENWRITER. That makes it even FUNNIER

"Why the misdirect?" ...that's called a plot twist Ben

"Upon finding it impossible to understand a thing, he's just blaming the thing for his inability to understand it." There it is.

let's say it clearly. the movie made fun of rich people, and as a little rich people's puppy as ben is, he had to defend it with any bullshit possible.

"Ben sees divergence form the norm and sees not innovation but aberation." Conservatism 101

I’d also like to point out that Rian Johnson wrote and directed this movie months/years before Elon Musk bought Twitter. So if Shapiro is mad about comparisons to Musk’s… dumbass traits, it probably says more about him than “the Left.”

What I really like about the situation is that Glass Onion isn't a smart movie, it's a popcorn movie. A popcorn movie that explain it's thesis during a monologue. A monologue delivered directly to the audience and yet this man cannot fathom the meaning of this movie, it's amazing.

Ben Shapiro is an expert on bad writing, just look at all the bad books he has written.

I didn't read the whole Shapiro thread, but... doesn't he realize Glass Onion is also a comedy? Obviously the reason it defies whodunit tropes is in part because it's funny.

Ben Shapiro is the most unintentionally funniest person I’ve ever seen. Between the way he talks, his goofy demeanor, that weird squint in his eyes when he thinks he’s right, he’s just a joke of a person. I cannot take him seriously as an individual.

The funny thing is that there were clues about both the twin and the killer before the reveal. One thing that really stuck out to me is that shot of Andi's hand holding onto the railing of the boat. That shot looked so off. She looked uncomfortable even though it's assumed that she's been on a boat before and such because she used to be close with miles. But, we write that off as her being uncomfortable with the situation. Later on, we figure out that it's Helen. Another thing was Miles interrupting Duke when he was going to say he almost ran him over on the way to Andi's house, he says Anderson Cooper.

what I love about Glass Onion is that it has to live up to Knives Out being this surprising, genre defying movie. and the way Rian Johnson has achieved it for me is by just making a very literal and entertaining movie. and yet, everyone is going to try and pick it apart looking for deep meaning. like, they tell you ALL THE TIME that it's not that deep. and that's it. the title, the concept, even the monologue where they straight up explain what the movie is about. it's all right there, but repeated, in layers, all of the time. just like the glass onion itself. and this guy still doesn't get it.

"Ben thinks he's smart." Alas, another way Ben is wrong.

The film in his eyes is ‘woke’. It has diversity, plus a smart black woman playing the lead. It also has an anti capitalist/billionaire cautionary tale/message. Of course he and his incel cousins are gonna hate it

The more I think about it, the more I love that the movie chose to go with 'The Mona Lisa' to help make its point. Hot take: the Mona Lisa as a piece of art is just okay. It is a perfectly fine, middle of the road, well made painting from an artist who has a large, mixed body of work. On a technical level it's not that special. The whole thing about 'Her eyes follow you around the room.' 'She has such a complex expression.' that you've probably heard associated with Mona Lisa is not unique. The same can be said about a lot of well made portraits. There are interesting stories to be told about things that have happened TO the painting since it was made, but the painting itself isn't spectacular. Sorry to anyone who's seen the painting in person and was genuinely moved by it, I don't want to yuck anyone else's yum But the reason why we hold up the Mona Lisa as great is because we are TOLD it is and just kinda go with it.

It's also funny that Ben talks about the politics of the film being bad but didn't mention that Kathryn Hahn's character is implied to be a Democrat and is also horrible. He either can't acknowledge it because he can't fathom the film being "correct" about anything (since he already decided it's bad), or he's simply too stupid to notice that Johnson is less interested in politics and more interested in socioeconomics, regardless of political leaning.

I really liked the switch at the middle. The Helen twist was interesting and the non linear story telling was better than a possible linear one. Shapiro's complaints make no sense.

It's particularly funny to me that simply using images of shapiro while pointing out how stupid he is reinforces "yeah, that looks like a stupid guy"

Not only is "Once more with clarity" a trope that's not even exclusive to the mystery genre, mystery media generally has flashbacks to explain events from another perspective. In film, this can also be combined with the summation, where the detective character generally explains what happened, and we the audience see the plot from other points of view, as recently as Murder on the Orient Express. Ben's angry because he doesn't even understand the media he's criticizing (granted, he's angry because he wanted to be angry, considering the movie was "woke", but I digress). Especially since, on a rewatch, you can tell the switcheroo going on: the clues were there and the title itself tells you: it's so easy to get lost in apparent complexity, that you miss the answer staring you in the face.

The fact that he thinks the murder should be in the first 30 seconds tells me the only murder mystery he's seen is Law and Order

Ben was so emotionally compromised watching this. A perfect example. The politician (can't remember her name) mentions that endorsing the plant will be career suicide, but she needs to do it to get elected one more time. If elected, she will greenlight the plant, and Miles will make sure she gets elected. But she realizes that will be her last term. But it's either one more term, or don't endorse the plant, and don't even get that. Ben's criticism is that she is greenlighting the plant, despite it damaging her political career. Which is exactly what her point was. He's criticizing a plot point for simply being the plot.

My favorite part of the reaction Elon fans have to this movie is them seeing a tech billionaire who is an idiot and immediately think of Elon.

I think whats fascinating is that ben thinks the mystery 'starts' when a body hits the floor...as if you dont spend the whole first half waiting, and trying to figure out, who is going to be murdered in the first place. Slotting together the dynamics, motivations, and assumptions as you wait for the hammer to fall. The twist is not that helen is a twin- its that andi is *already dead* and THATS why miles is so shocked to see her at the dock. The twist is that the man everyone is motivated to murder is, in fact, not a potential victim, but a killer. The death we are investigating is *not his* (bc well, hes alive). Hes not the most important part of the story. But we're so used to treating rich, powerful, egotistical men like they really are the center of the universe, letting them monopolise the narrative, that subconciously its almost impossible to remember the obvious- miles isnt the victim, the center of the story, because he isnt dead. Hes a suspect. And that basic misdirect is why the final revelation is so important- if we were able to step back and assess the situation objectively from the start. If we knew about helen, knew about andi, knew about miles. Thered be no mystery. Miles would be the obvious suspect from the first minute of the film, and the point would be weakened because we, the audience, would not be taken in by his myth. We would see from the start that andi was not the bitter sore loser the shitheads see her as, but the principled woman and (ultimately) victim that she was. Consequently, WE WOULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW MILES GOT AWAY WITH IT. And thats what makes this story work

It’s weird that he ‘regrets to inform’ us, when I’m at least 60% sure he went in expecting it to be terrible.

Ben Shapiro being angry at a mystery movie for being a mystery movie is the most Ben Shapiro thing ever. Also your point about Ben thinking he’s a disruptor but he refuses to think outside the box reminds me of that great scene early on where a certain actual disruptor takes a hammer to BigBrain’s puzzle box. :)

The thing that most conservatives don't want to admit is when they don't like a film because they don't agree with it's politics. For example: straight, white, male characters are always allowed to be mediocre characters, but the moment they don't fit into any of the three groups mentioned, conservatives will accuse them of being "forced" into the film/series/game by The Woke Mob™. That's why you see Ben dishing out half-assed film critique to disguise his anger with Rian Johnson for supposedly making fun of his Tesla bestie.

Loved Glass Onion. It's very meta and the screenplay is very clever, with a lot of reverse engineering. Performances are top notch and hysterical. I'll rewatch it as soon as I can. I love it when a movie pulls out the rug from under our feet. Glass Onion simply took it a step or two further. Easy to understand.

What gets me is that Miles Bron is directly compared to Mark Zuckerberg in the movie. "He 'Social Network'ed her," was a line about him, and it wasn't complimentary! I'm so surprised I've not seen people discuss that more. Rian Johnson really succeeded when he said he wanted to make Miles reminiscent of a certain type of billionaire if the guy people wanted to defend wasn't even the one mentioned in the film.

Ben Shapiro is so f-ing wrong about media (and in my opinion everything else) that I sometimes think he is a parody of a Conservative. It is hilarious & embarrassing.

I love that when we get Helen's back story, and the rest of the weekend is revealed, you get to see the other "layers" of every character and I understood that immediately so I just imagine Ben at that point being like. "That's not fair. How could I know this if you didn't tell us. Leaving me in the dark is not ok. I don't like the dark."

"We're actively deceived by the writer" someone needs to circle in big red the word mystery in the films title for him

Also - just the fact that he was so personally offended that he took the time to write this on Twitter is hilarious to me

"Elon Musk: the real life, uh, person" So true

“If you’ve got an idea that a film’s trying to say something, but that idea doesn’t line up with the film itself, it generally makes sense to at least consider the possibility that the film is fine and your take is bad.” Marry me.

Ben has a TRUE ALLEGIANCE to being a witless writer

I think a core part of Ben’s problem here is just conservatism itself. It doesn’t allow for nuance, or alternate views that could be valid so trying something new or different is (as the video says) aberration and degeneracy. It’s a really sadly limited perspective.

That I fell asleep near the beginning, woke up for the last third, and still understood it more than Ben Shapiro is an unexpected small accomplishment. Not that being smarter than Ben Shapiro is a high bar.

"a rarer, more advanced stupid." thats going in the quote book

Human: (pretends to throw a ball) Dog: I have been deceived by the writer As a recovering stupid person I can confirm that this movie is in some way also about Ben

The actual trope was the book stopping the bullet. Without that Miles would have completely been able to get away by accusing Whiskey of killing Helen… in case Duke told her. I really enjoyed it, and totally agree with your analysis. Just think it’s even funnier that the issue of the book in the pocket to stop a bullet wasn’t taken as Shapiro third point LOL

I would say it's not exactly subtle that Miles is an idiot using money to cover his lack of other skills. I think most people picked up on that fairly early on. It was mentioned by Rian that he wasn't thinking of Musk because focusing on one specific guy meant the message got a bit lost, so it was just life imitating art that he showed his true colours after the film was written.

The hilarious thing is that one twist harks back to Edgar Allen Poe's detective stories that founded the genre. The story is "the Purloined letter" and the twist is where the original napkin is hidden

This movie's thesis is that the common man looks up to millionaires, celebrities, and those in power have their idiocy excused because we assume their power/fame must surely mean they have some genius we don't. Ironically, this applies to Ben because he takes his first thoughts on the film as the absolute truth and the that the film was nothing compared to his genius. No, in reality he's just an idiot and we assume his fame gives him some credibility but, no, not really

I'm sure Ben felt attacked by the "rich doesn't equal smart" message.

Yeah. I didnt read his twt thread, but dude? As a Malaysian, i just wanna say "get my country's name out of your mouth!!!" I feel dirty seeing my country's name being mentioned by BS...yuck Also, i guess BS have never watched a WhoDunIt genre movie before? 70% of the fun is trying to figure out the clues n who the murderer is by yourself, 10% of "dang, i should've noticed that" n the other 20% is going "i knew it! That (clue) was so obvious" when the mistery gets unveiled in the end

Ben Shapiro when a whodunnit movie has a plot twist 🤯🤯🤯

Ben Shapiro wants to know what "Rosebud" means before he'll watch the rest of Citizen Kane.

Ben not understanding something, then getting mad at said thing and complaining about it, is pretty on-brand for him.

Ben is the type of guy who would listen to motivational podcasts of Miles

This reminds me, years ago, when I saw Fargo at the movies. Going back to my loyal rust-nucket, I felt that the movie message was a bit on the nose. The characters that only care about money are all dead by the end, the ones that don't keep living their life of modest happiness. Noy very subtle, for me. As I was opening the door, a couple of ladies passed me by while discussing how "Fargo" made NO SENSE, then climbed in their brand new Range Rover and drove away. The power of points of view.

This is entirely too charitable a read on Ben Shapiro. He didn’t go in and get upset at the plot devices and tropes being turned on their head. He perceived an attack on his politics and those with whom he identifies and retroactively through a hissy fit over the film. Since the film was plainly great, and he can’t attack the politics without giving away his fragility, he makes a weak play at the innovations in the plot rather than any real critique.

He hates it because he's literally just a combination of the worst parts of Miles, Claire, and Duke

A lot of this can be disproven by just rewatching the film, even the first take of Helen breaking the box seems so off from the life of a rich person (granted they took away the money, but even then) I was like "Oh? Wrong person or do they hate Miles?", I gasped when we got to the realization both were true

Commenting so YT will know that I like to Laugh at Silly Men.

he didn’t get because glass onion is a critic of the people he admires and defends, he’s not gonna give in and admit the faults of those who are in power because that’s the people who keep him on board

Let’s never forget that Ben is what conservatives think is a smart man.

Ben really threw a fit coz he got outsmarted by the plot lol

Hm. I reckon this is the reason he didn't make it as a screenwriter.

Did Shapiro comment on knives out? Rian Johnson reworked the structure of that film too. We had, what we are being led to believe, is the guilty party's confession very early. Him reworking the typical genre structure to make a point in this movie should have been more expected than it was with Knives Out. Ryan Johnson used a lot of approaches/manipulations/ideas from the first movie applied in a new way to explore this film's specific idealogical focus. Nuance is a thing. This is beautiful use of pre conception and subversion that can only be implemented by someone, not just competent, but with a deep understanding and grasp of the medium.

Ben Shapiro is his own glass onion.

Ben Shapiro doesn't understand anything.

Is it me or did anyone else see Miles as a parody of Steve Jobs instead of Elon Musk. Miles even had the hippie haircut and black turtleneck in the flashback. Makes sense since Miles is someone good with a way of words even making fake words to persuade people but hasn’t done the hands on work which reflects the Jobs and Wozniak relationship with Andi being Wozniak.

"How many rockets has Rain Johnson launched" Idk, how many films have YOU written in your brief career, Benny?

Ben Shapiro talking about caricatured characters while being a parody himself, is the art we all failed to see 😂

What a gem of a video to pop up in my reccommendations! Love the structured call out of just what exactly Ben got wrong and a breakdown of why this movie works so well.

Dear Ben, Glass Onion is a moving picture under the genre of murder-mystery. Typically, the detective will attempt to uncover the murderer. I hope this helps.

"a rare, more advanced stupid" -Pillar of Garbage, 2022 Subscribed

Is Ben old enough to get the Magnolia reference? Miles showing up in the flashback in Frank TJ Mackey cosplay (the original MRA?) was just a perfect Rian Johnson moment - the tiniest thing that spoke volumes about who this character is.

The even bigger irony is that the people who think they’re smart and right all the time, like Ben, are also the ones who are MOST captivated by the Glass Onion of Bron/Musk types. They never stop to think they might be misled, because they would mean they made a mistake…

Hearing Ben tweeted about this movie negatively got me interested. Seeing this video in my subscription feed got me to watch the movie. Thanks PoG. Also, I’ve read Ben’s book, and if there was ever a word to describe his writing it would be formulaic. That or trash.

Ben wanting to be a screenwriter is funny by itself. Once you read his short stories and novels, it's actually hilarious.

Honestly surprised that Ben Shapiro actually 'criticised' a film without mentioning Wokeness or anything

ben would be shocked and offended by a toaster popping up.

Its always funny to remember Ben didnt make it as a screenwriter and this is a reminder WHY he didnt.

Ben misunderstands this movie because Ben is 1 of those 'disruptors' that actually rely on others to figure it out for him, then regurgitates it for the masses. He's a puppet. And he's upset that people have caught on.

What a surprise, the underwater real estate agent doesn't know what he's talking about

Sounds to me like Ben is reacting to the idea of someone placing someone popular under scrutiny and taking them for what they are, not what they project themselves as.

The other thing I love about a glass onion is that once you know the obvious (there's nothing at the center), one can examine and marvel the way the layers are done, catching new bits as one turns the onion all around

The simplicity is really just that the film criticizes him and his audience and the conservative brand of being hyperbolic for success and money without intellect

To be VERY fair to Ben, if you frequently pause the movie while streaming, like I did, any time Miles opens his mouth to say something vapid, it can take over an hour to get to the actual mystery. Miles: Inbreatheate. Me: Pause and take a shot. This is going to be a wild butchering of Language.

This reminds me of Logan Paul’s take on Nope and how he missed that the entire film made a warning out of people who will do anything to capitalize on spectacle…people like him

Happy to have found your content, Pillar.

I think the premise of a character who is thought to be intelligent but is actually an idiot hits a little too close to home for Mr Shapiro

Mr. Shapiro showing us exactly why he couldn't make it as a screenwriter, even with his parents' help.

The funny thing is that it is a very classical Agatha Christie storyline. Nothing new. And as someone who read all the Christie books several times, I knew who the murderer was when "Andy" was shot. This is a classic Chhristie trick: you learn something, it's always repeated (like "X hates Y" or "Y is madly in love with Z and would do anything to get them back") and finally you realise it's just not true. Glass Onion reminds me very much of Towards Zero from this respect.

How dare a mystery be twisty and unexpected?! 😂

Lets say Shapiro is correct and Miles was just written as a criticism to Musk. The script was written before the Twitter meltdown that showed that Elon isn't a mad genius but just out of his mind. So Johnson wouldve been spot on about that. So what's wrong with being right about a real life prick?

You mean to tell me that someone that constantly speaks in logical fallacies that are easier to poke holes through than Swiss cheese doesn't understand a somewhat complex movie plot? And in typical fashion anything these types of people don't know or understand they have to lash out against it Also the ratio of likes to views on his tweets is laughable

Great video explaining the perspective shift after the first hour! There was this guy on Twitter who kept linking his essay in every tweet thread that loved Glass Onion complaining about this - and I think he was partly right that in a way it does affect the connection from viewer to Andi as a character. But another layer of this onion and the reason for the perspective shift (other than what you said in the video) is I think starting off with Benoit as the POV character, someone who we know and trust, following him over the first hour and then him handing the narrative reins to Helen a character who has meatier hooks in the story, higher stakes in the solving the mystery and also someone who is willing to fight, while Benoit looks on as the Glass Onion building blows up. It is like that meme that is circulating about how Benoit is the guy who helps out minority women

3:32 I find it funny how he compares Rian and Elon by how many rockets they have launched. That's like comparing a cardiologist's and a dermatologist's records by how many melanoma they've diagnosed

My favourite part of glass onion was instead of Rian trying to outdo the insanity of a reveal which was in Knives Out, to match the more laid back, beachy theme of this film, he let our own expectations of what to expect fromm this film, form the imaginary fog between the layers of the glass onion, before cathartically laughing at us for trying to peel the layers back, for when it's core is so easily visible and structure is much more enjoyable to just smash through in the final act.