He spent about 5 minutes saying that's not what he's saying

@@tayzk5929 I know, people are divided some prefer 1980s Dune some prefer Dune 2021. Both are quite different, one is more Gothic/Victorian in art design and tone. The other is a visual masterpiece achieving an amazing universe.(it should only be viewed in theaters) TV viewing greatly reduces it's impact.

Not only that, it has an awkward ending. This movie is not rewatchable on its own unlike the lotr that have their own story arc per book/movie.

Mannnnnn y’all don’t even get it😂😂😂 So it’s my fault but I’ve never read or seen a single thing of the story of Dune and this was my intro. It was so damned good I’m actually mad I saw it because now I have to wait another two years for part two and I can’t get it out my head😂

@@stephenpmurphy591 Watching it 21:9 at 1440p 120hz 34 inch screen was decent for me tbh. I think if you watch it at the right aspect ratio its still fine. You will still get the best experience at a cinema though.

This actually true? if so that's freaking awesome.

Um, the movie sux

@@trentcaisson5282 Watch the first one. Took me 4 times to make it through. You just have to really keep up or youll get lost quick.

The movie was cut off because no one is going to see a 5-6 hour movie, you see how much was in the first part that's only what didn't get cut. Its like Tarintino making Kill Bill, the movie has too much to fit into a single part so they split it up

Actually from what I heard, he only agreed to do if he is able to make it into two parts. They were fine with that, but only if the first one is successful

I agree.

The key thing that's important about the finale is that it reveals that Paul can change the future based on what he sees. So I think it ended in the perfect spot. That's new information that will surely be used in part two.

@@Contra7311 That and it was the most sensical place to pause between the two films. At one point they were going to stop it after the time jump but it felt like they were starting to open the second part of the story with no follow up, just didn't fit.

Thank you. I’ve been trying to put words to this argument. I completely agree.

Totally agree. I found myself thinking the movie was going to end and hoping it would keep going. I was pleasantly surprised where it did end.

I agree. When I read critiques saying the story was boring, that it didn't have a closure, a climax, or real conflict, I feel like they were just expecting a final boss epic battle at the end or something. When in reality, the story in the movie does have that, but expressed in a subtle and progressive change in attitude in Paul. I mean, at the most dramatic point in the movie (imo) we do see Paul suffering and reluctant to accept his fate, reluctant to lead a war across the universe like he saw on his visions. Yet the movie ends with him accepting that, the closure to his character comes from the decision he takes to be the leader, to rise to the occasion. I think that is perfectly fantastic.

Exactly. Film depicts Paul's story and his feelings. Scene with Fremens shows transformation of character. Very insightful moment.

@@Kkstgch yes, absolutely. People are focusing on the surface and don't try to see what's behind of each character. I blame it on films made in recent years which were straight to the point. Dune is very subtle and demands to focus on emotional part not only what we are seeing and hearing.

Absolutely. It's kind of foreshadowed throughout his visions. In his visions he dies when he meets the fremen. And that's essentially what comes to be. Before he fights Jamis he's touching the rock and he hears the voices telling him something like "to take another life is to take your own."

At the same time. I can kind of see where Shapiro is coming from saying the break might have been better with them heading out into the desert. And i kind of see what he means too saying it feels like it would be similar to Sam and frodo meeting göllum and the film ending. Still, both dune and fotr ended at a thematic point

When you have lived with prophecy for so long that the moment of revelation becomes a shock

@Dan I don't agree. I haven't read the book (yet) but I understood it was a good breaking point. The entire movie focused on the development of Paul's character, from a boy who didn't even understand the weight of Atreides family taking control of Arrakis, to a man who willingly follows his path to the dessert knowing entirely what that entails (the crusade on his name he saw on his visions).

@@Kkstgch That's also why he's not a hero. He makes the choice to follow through with the jihad.

If a majority of the viewers think it's in the wrong place, it's in the wrong place. The objective quality of a piece of creative entertainment is the opinion of the audience.

@@apollo1694 Yeah, I can't agree, sorry dude. He's not saying it's wrong because of audience reactions. He specifically refers to it being 'in the middle of a story beat' (which it isn't). Besides, do the majority of viewers think that? I haven't seen any stats, have you? Further, audience approval isn't the only measure of whether it's in the 'wrong' place or not. Given that you've pointed to a subjectively assigned measure for 'wrongness' in a film, you shouldn't be calling it objective, especially when basing it solely on the collective subjective opinions of viewers. Mr Shapiro would very much disagree with that analysis (or else conclude that a screeching Twitter hate mob must be right due to the numbers). I get the caveat to this you're suggesting for creative work, but this isn't usually the measure even there. Awards for creativity rarely go to the most popular. You're conflating creative with commercial. If audiences were staying away due to this issue, you might have a point, but they're not. The abrupt ending has been noted by reviewers since the debut, but the film is still doing very well with audiences, critically and commercially. In terms of judging the quality of the story, there are plenty of measures. Story pacing, plot resolution, etc.There are plenty ways to judge an ending, and I'm pretty sure it's on these standards that he's judging it to be 'wrong'.

And with how it ends and the story going into the second definitely has fellowship vibes

Agreed. This is definitely what hardcore LOTRs fans must of been feeling when Fellowship came out.

Yes, the Lord of the Rings! I was thinking about the same thing. They both captured something unique and epic.

@@devinreese7704 undramatic?! They game of thrones’d almost the whole cast In the first movie

@@devinreese7704 undramatic? the main character is suffering trough the movie because hes basically forced to be a messiah and he know he isn’t.

100%

Agreed. It plants the seed for the next installment and gives you something to look forward to.

I agree but I know dune. If you don’t know dune then you’d be pretty confused

At first I thought you meant the first dune that was about 2 hours. Probably still true.

The Disney trilogy is a very low bar, not a great comparison.

Wow that's an extremely cogent distillation of what Herbert is saying. With overtones of that same warning regardless of which "side" has the more sympathetic cause...

That's maybe one message. Definitely not the central one, though.

@@jackgraham3 yeah. It's the central message. If you read all the Dunes books it all expands on that main idea to a pretty terrible end.

How could anyone come away with this message from the movie?

@@bobbarkerswag6989 It's a 6 book series. You are only seeing, right now, half of the first book. After you watch Part 2 when it comes out, read the first 10 pages of the 2nd Dune book. You'll see.

XD this one got me to laugh out loud

Hahahaha. That’s so goood!

Make sure you keep your home safe by putting internet connected cameras in it so you can spy on your kids while you are away. Since they connect to the internet you can watch them from anywhere (and anyone else like the government can too!)

This was one of those movies when less is more. The point is to Introduce the characters, roll the plot and get to a decent pause point. No room for small time political intrigues because the Harkonnen and the Emperor are the big picture. I would love to see "the Banquet" scene if it were in a four hour director's cut.

@@rodritchison1995 The film is literally built on being political, wdym small time political intrigue?

@@Christian-eq6pq I think he means that the book definitely has a lot more scenes dedicated to the political intrigue, much of which wasn't in the movie (e.g. banquet scene, Thufir Hawat, Yueh and Jessica, etc.). Those parts had a lot of tension and anticipation but could potentially slow the movie down a lot, so I understand why the director may have decided not to include them.

@@Nolaris3 No, the whole premise of the story is political. Paul is a fake messiah, using the fremen for his own means while knowing it. The Bene Gessarit implant religions into societies to control them. The whole story is a warning against charismatic leaders who control the populous by gathering a cult following in the name of a prophecy. It's also a pro-environmental message. Ben Shapiro didn't touch on this because it directly contradicts what he stands for lol

@@joeljimenez5568 Yes, I know that. I am not arguing that the whole story is not political (Frank Herbert himself worked as a political speechwriter). I am only clarifying to the previous comment about what the other commentnwas saying, highlighting the differences between how the movie and the book portrayed political intrigue as a clarification.

Congratulations ..Star Wars theme was taken by George and he made it for 13 years old kid..Dune is for adults envisioning us the Human race in the forefront of the future..Dune is just at the start of more possible storytelling ..

star wars is kinda a watered down imitation of dune.. i think Lucas read the book, was inspired, wrote his own version of the heros journey inspired space opera.. thats all good and fine but from the boy savior, to the force, the set and setting, weaponry and shield tech .. _shrug_

@@StayFractalesque Star Wars stank.

"Top 5 favorite movies of all time are Alien, Aliens, Gladiator, Caddy Shack and now, Dune. " With respect Dune is on another level entirely to those films. You could spend a lifetime trying to understand the complexities of Dune.

@@thelawenforcerhd9654 ngl im rewatching dune with a crush of mine, the first time im watching it i was so stunned by the visuals, but after a year of reading literatures (mostly japanese light novels) i now understand the weight of this world.

@@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 / I think the word you’re looking for is “ponderous.” The director does have a penchant for that kind of thing, I’ll give you that.

@@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 what plot holes?

@@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 Dr.yueh has heavy conditioning, basically the most trust worthy person to the Duke. It's not explained in the movie because it's impossible to cram it in a 2h30 film. As you saw, he took the guards by surprise and was able to disable the shields. You missed that part. They literally got attacked the night of the day they arrived, the whole thing had been planned for months. Ofc they deserved to get slaughtered, that's the point. How do you control bio warfare? Their plan, in theory, was to let some specific people live. You can make the same argument about any movie...you can get gassed in any world lol. How else would you fight?? In slow motion? Lmao. You saw that Duncan fought fast to get close then finished them with slow strokes. Literally how else would you fight?? The shields are designed to counter fast projectiles so melee combat is the only option... All of your plot holes are the same in the book. Your random nitpicky problems of this fantasy world are not exclusive to the movie...

@@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 I don't undersand why you're doubling down on the gas thing. Your point is that the writer of the book should've found a way to weaponize gas in a different way instead of using swords? Sure I guess? Again this has nothing to do with the movie itself. Go shit on Frank Herbert then. Idk why you're comparing this to the president and the US? The Atreides are dropped in a foreign planet, with sabotaged tech, in a trap designed by the empire itself. How could anyone else know when Yueh drops the shields? He kills the only guards defending it & THERE ARE NO COMPUTERS IN THIS WORLD. But somehow it's the same as the president being in his home country, surrounded by computers & digital security? The comparison doesn't work at all. First I prove that your points about shields & fighting systems wrong. Then you proceed to double down on the bio warfare argument? Go ahead and try to cram extended explanations about shields, how poisonous gas works, the political systems of this world, etc., in a feature length film, instead of focusing on the main plotline. Do you realise how insanely nitpicky you sound about things that don't really matter in the grand scheme of the story? The director managed to showcase what Dune is about without compromising on spectacle. Which is impressive. "Timothee Chalamet walking pensively through the sand" is the whole point of the book. Why would the director spend time on weird details that no one else but you would have a problem with, instead of capturing the essence/mood of Dune in movie format. For some reason you seem to be forgetting that this is not a 10part 1hour per episode HBO season. And even in that case explanations about shields, security systems and bio-warfare would've been completely redundant. (Let me say this again: There are no computers in this world.) I feel like am the one repeating myself: you have highly nitpicky issues with the book itself. Nothing wrong with not liking the movie, it's understandable. Characters might seem bland and under developed. But your "plot holes" aren't actually plot holes...

@@svenjorgensonjorgenson709 You sound insanely boring. Those things you call plot holes are just personal gripes you have with the movie they mean nothing. It is a deep and complex story the fact you chose to focus negatively on those things clearly just shows you were too braindead to pay attention to the rest.

Glad someone beat me to this haha

Yes he did 👍

And sandworms

I guess the sand people are inspired by the fremen

And now the producers of this abomination are clearly eyeballing the DOZENS of Star Wars CGI shlockfests that made millions despite sucking, looking at the breadth and depth of the novel, scratching their chin$, and voila...

Definitely sounds like Ben has had a few too many haha.

Holy shit 😆 you right.

I know the movie is not just a visual of the book but you are right that this is a key point for the primary character.

Ben is right about seeing this in theaters.

@Will Johnson yeah thats a good point

True

He is now Paul Muad'Dib

Literally like he explained the movie for about 4 minutes the rest of the time is spent on adverts

@@eleanor4839 lmao.. 😂😂😂 true

More like Reaction??? Its become a trend lately.

Dune Cliffnotes..

High schooler book review style

Yup, that was a part of the book I always found kind of silly, on the movie he managed to make the craft to look awesome, all around a great movie, so far the best work I had seen using Herbert books, happy to had watched it on a theatre and paying overpriced pop con, it was worth ir.

Only it you don’t know what metal fatigue is.

bzzzzz

That's what I liked most about this version were the ornithopters. Compared to the 1984 version and the 2000 SciFi version, I think these were the best of the three.

It's a remake.

Don’t forget, it is a second “remake “ 😉. Bravo, however, keep the hope alive!

@@kmb957 Nah the Lynch movie doesn't count.

@@BraveInstance dude that’s the original movie adaptation. Of course it counts! Lol!!!

@@kmb957 It's a new adaptation of the same book; Not a "remake" of the Lynch film or SyFy miniseries.

Wish it ended straight away, most boring movie i've ever tried watching

@@tayzk5929 You're boring

@@Anw4rr10r Whatever

@@tayzk5929 just say you didn't understand the movie and move on dude

@@t4rg4ryen Lol it's a very simple movie.. I guess not to you hahahaha

So many arcs to explore. Like wasn't there a robot uprising at one point? I haven't read the books, but you're right, there are so many different aspects to explore. Visually, this movie was stunning. I actually got to feel how brutal those Harkonnen were. I can't wait for them to show the deranged beings mutated by spice consumption. The Dune universe is crazy.

problem is it's an adaptation and so far it's been pretty faithful. The future of the series is already set in ink. Ironic.

Dune was the inspiration for, among many other things, Star Wars, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, and James Cameron's Avatar. I think another competitor to Dune, Star Wars, and James Cameron's Avatar would be a full film adaptation of the Nausicaa manga. The '80s anime film is really great and is one of my favourite films of all time but it only covers less than a quarter of the manga, which is basically the Japanese Dune. Hideaki Anno (of Neon Genesis Evangelion and Shin Godzilla fame) asked Hayao Miyazaki permission to do a Rebuild of Nausicaa and Miyazaki would only approve if it is done as an anime. Anno thought of making it an anime but he soon wanted to do it in live action after he directed Shin Godzilla. The full manga did get a stageplay adaptation that is six hours long but it still cut out some content from the manga, not to mention that it is a live stage production. To truly adapt Nausicaa into a movie series, they can do four movies that are around two to three hours long each. I would love a major Hollywood adaptation of Nausicaa as long as it's directed by someone who respects and loves the franchise, like Hideaki Anno.

Nope. They cut out so much shit from the movie

@@appa609 as time goes on the film's will inevitably begin to take more creative freedom for better or worse

See my comment above. Part 2 hits theaters October 2023

They cut the power of many lines there are thing they should not have changed, and they explain very little and changed many a scenes . People are more plain looking here. And the new harkonen word is a cringey pronunciation. D, ,

Book is a masterpiece, YES! But this movie, not a chance!

Ditto

So I've seen the original movie multiple times so it'd be interesting to see the difference between the two. And compare them because the first one was awesome for its time!

….The One Ring? I know a hobbit…

Hohoho

lmao

Jew the Messiah.

Ring alarm. :) 💍 🚨

That's what I liked about it, except for the ecologist being a woman, everything else is exactly the same as this great book...yes I have read it four times and watched all the older movies

Dude, I thought the same. I’ve never seen such a sincere attempt to stick with the source material.

My absolute favorite thing about this movie out side of the visuals is how true to the source material they were. It was basically spot on.

I don’t like that it was chronologically not the same.

@Miles Doyle Jesus gay

Dunkirk would like a word.

@@DoddyIshamel I always exclude Dunkirk. That movie is amazing

*Villeneuve TRIES to use shots to tell the story, but ends up telling no story at all. Villeneuve is far and away the single most overrated director of our time. He takes the principle "show, don't tell" to mean "show anything and assert that it tells something". He's Malick with excellent visual effects instead of shaky cam fisheye closeups.

Nolan likes to dump a lot of information through long winded exposition, like in Tenet. Villeneuve is more visual director so he makes better epics.

@@Bellissima2k Villeneuve is David Fincher if he just made pretentious overlong music videos. He's an absolutely horrendous storyteller.

Facts

Kill the boy so the man can live

That is true but the pacing was a bit off still. The editors could have fine tuned it a bit more so the energy arc felt more natural.

Question - Was the guy he fought and killed they same guy he had visions about teaching him the way of the desert?

I agree, the ending felt very natural to me as well.

I agree with Ben on most things including Dune except I did like where the end of part one occurred, after he defeated the Fremen warrior and was accepted by the Fremen and by his dream girl.

Exactly the same here! I disagree with just about everything Ben says but I do like to see intelligent people talking intelligently about the important issues of the day (I can find hope that the World isnt descending into the terminally stupid!!) Agreed on much of the review but I think the point at which the film ends is a pretty good place. The old World of Great House politics has ended for Paul and his new life starts with the march into the desert with the Freman. It was a similar point as Frodo and Sam taking the boat and leaving the others to go on alone. I enjoyed the film and looking forward to the second (maybe even a 3rd?) but I would like to have seen more of the internal turmoil Paul felt in the books as he saw himself as a catalyst for a Galactic war of horror but was unable to stop himself on his path into the desert. The whole model of joint release in theaters and streaming doesnt make sense to me but these corporations are not stupid (most of the time!) and they must know what they are trying to achieve. HBO are releasing couple of spin off mini series and perhaps they hope the joint film release will drive up interest and subscription numbers? I hope it works out for them but I agree with Ben that future releases will go back to theaters only and streaming a couple of months later.

Dude, I kinda like bed and commonly find myself agreeing with him. I was worried he was about to shit all over Dune then I would have been forced to hate him.

Yeah I usually find myself in the same boat. If its something like a film or novel he is reviewing, I must admit the man has an eye for detail. I almost always agree with him, when regarding the 'problem'. He is very good at rooting out an issue, or a psychology that leads to unfavored consequences. Where I disagree with him is when he suggests solutions. Shapiro is an extremely perceptive person, one you want on your side. As far as his ethics go, there are things to be desired, not to say I ever thought he was a bad person. In short, he's a Hawat without a Duke.

yeah but he only likes it bc he thinks it's a white savior story

Villanueve(sp) said Dune is "Star Wars for adults."

Yeah I just realized this myself. If it had ended before they found the Fremen, it would not have been as satisfying. Unlike in Lord of the Rings where they end on Frodo and Sam embarking into the jagged mountains, they at least concluded before then. If we had ended with Paul and Jessica embarking into the dessert lost and searching, it would have felt more incomplete. Because they did not defeat anyone or conclude anything. Everything would have been left up in the air. At least in Villeneuve's version, they embark into a new chapter (with the Fremen) after his passage. It feels more complete.

i mostly agree with ben, but you make a good point in so far that paul was mostly a passive character up until near the end of the film.

I would have either ended it with the escape from the Sandworm, or even earlier, with the evening after the night in the tent in the desert before the crossing to the hills. But to my mind the perfect ending in either case would have been to leave Paul and Jessica and end the movie with the death of Liet Keynes, one of the most important, and often overlooked, passages in the book. This would have allowed the movie to include the book's message that the arrival and deification of Maud Dib wasn't the salvation of the Fremen. It was a catastrophe.

wait u have to watch the final duel before you watch the dune ....does that explain why i was so confused watching the movie?

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Why must people agree politically 100%?

Respect

Entertainment and hobbies are where Americans had found common ground for generations.

Agreeing 100% politically with anyone is probably impossible. And not a requirement for any of Bens listeners, I think.

He is one of those rare actors who can shine in small indie films like Lady Bird and Call Me By Your Name and also carry a major epic. They used to call someone like that a bankable star.

Besides this" - Thumper beat starts. :Paul- "I hear a Thumper. Someone set off a thumper, Someone called it."

He’s overrated and bored me to death in the movie. Not sure why people like him so much

Timothy is good in Dune it was also good in the king a historical drama on Netflix about King Henry

@@ericthepianoman3409 Two reasons: 1) For book fans, Chalamet is basically the perfect actor for Paul. Both in appearance and demeanor. 2) The subtleties of his performance are pretty excellent. He's not overracting or doing hyperbolic facial expressions, or all that silliness. He can convey the right emotions with almost unnoticeable changes in his tone of voice or expression. You understand what he's feeling, but can't really put your finger on how you know it most of the time. If all this was lost on you, or simply don't appreciate it, it's ok. But don't say it's not there. Because it is.

I watched it in theatre with a bunch of teenagers who just came there to see it because Timothy and Zandeya are in it. They were so obnoxious I almost wished the casting was different. Thankfully Zimmer soundtrack spooked them so they got quiet.

This is in contrast to another film that simultaneously premiered in cinemas and on HBO Max: Earwig and the Witch. Earwig and the Witch's claymation-inspired CGI clearly shows that the anime film was made for TV and they just released it in cinemas at the last minute. The animation is still amazing for TV or direct-to-video standards but it would be mediocre CGI by theatrical standards. Still better than Illumination, though, and it still looks great considering it's Studio Ghibli's first 100% CGI feature film. The film aired on NHK during New Year's Eve in Japan, and it got a theatrical re-release in Japan some months later. China (Ghibli's second-biggest market after Japan) got it direct-to-video a few months after the Japanese theatrical release. Earwig and the Witch was a simultaneous theatrical/HBO Max release just like Dune but the former was clearly made for TV and was shown in cinemas as a last minute decision to make more money while Dune was clearly meant to be seen in IMAX and was just shown in HBO Max because Warner Bros. forced them to. People say Earwig was a terrible film but I thought it was pretty good. Far from Studio Ghibli's best but I would still watch it over most recent Illumination or DreamWorks films. Ocean Waves is still the worst Ghibli film and it's a 6/10 at worst for me, a rating that Illumination only dreams of achieving.

Ohhh yeah man.. the "DREAMS ARE MESSAGES FROM THE DEEP" then TA DUM DA DUM TA DUM owh sweet jesus the shivers

@@nenadmilovanovic5271 shoulda warned the kids if they don't stfu you'll go get the manager and have them removed from the premisis or my name isn't karen

This could go on the back of a DVD Cover

So who don’t you hire? Please tell me it’s the Kynes actress

I’m talking about the crew only.

Jamis, too.

I bet that line will be in Part 2. At least, I hope.

If I recall that scene happened taught after the fight in the book and I wished they had that scene

interested to see how that will play out, since the gave a lot of false "visions" early on, including apparently having janis be an actual friend (perhaps where he gets the idea to say it, rather than just feeling guilty for having to kill him). I agree that would have been the best place to end on, or just end it where they meet the Fremen. I was HOPING it would end on that note from the David Lynch version where they escape to the rocks and Paul makes his pledge to the moon and his recently deceased father "one day, the sleeper will awaken!"

They might skip that scene and try to avoid Paul being given Jamis wife later on, it might be seen as "problematic". I heard some gossip about part 2 starting with Feyd Rauthas birtday celebration and gladiator duel as a nod to the fight with Jamis and the fight at the end of the movie between Paul and Feyd.

Absolutely!

It’s a trash movie

It’s funny cause it wasn’t advertised as dune part 1 it was just dune. And like a good sheep you’ll pay to watch the 2nd part of the remake

Me too even though I've neither read the book nor have the capacity to watch really long movies sometimes I found it to be a good movie

Frankly, I liked it for the landscape shots first & foremost, the fact they had little to no woke actors was a huge plus & second reason, third is the originality, they picked a unique series to film instead of some obscure progressive books nobody read. Also the whole desert bandits/space pirates theme was a bonus. This movie I honestly cannot hate, and I'm embarrassingly easy to please yet this industry still manages to underdeliver & underwhelm 99% of the time. OH I FORGOT, you know the hallucinogen fleeting above the sand dunes that they call spice? Well spice is also the real-life slang for DMT (dimethyltryptamine), the strongest psychedelic on Earth, which is dubbed the spirit molecule by ethnobotanists, psychopharmacologists & philosophers, revered by shamans & ancient civilizations.

I think it would've been better breaking where Ben said and using the extra 15-20mins to explain/build up certain characters. Dr Yueh was never explained nor the significance of his betrayal. In the book, the others believed it was actually Jessica who betrayed house Atreides. Also, they should've added in the classic quote “Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind.”

I have to presume that Ben is way smarter than denny villanew

@@LCDqBqA It would probably have been better, but remember than when Villeneuve filmed this, he didn't know if there would be a part 2. Ending the movie right when they come accross the Fremen would make a poor ending if there is no part 2.

I hope when part 2 comes out they mash part 1 & 2 together for a seem less transition

@@gregorylefranc3002 That's what I was wondering. Would the break have happened at a different spot had part 2 been greenlit from the beginning?

I don’t know, that was the middle of that beat. They will have to start the next film and have the funeral. They should have done the scene with Jamis’s funeral. The one where Paul takes the name Muad’Dib. That could have completed part one better.

Everytime i read it this is where the story really starts to me. I knew where it would stop without doubt having never seen the movie

@@Thezedword12 yeah, I kind of did too. That said, I do agree with Shapiro. It should have either ended as they crashed into the desert and wandered off or they should have ended it once Paúl got his Fremen name.

@@conservativecatholic9030 I disagree, after Paul gets his freman name would have been a part where it really starts to pick up, I think where it ended was great

@@mcarrowtime7095 it does pick up slightly, but it doesn’t leave anything unfinished as this did. It also leaves something to look forward to.

Yes it really is

I thought it was a master piece!

They did a great job of setting up the second part of the story. It’s a long book. Too much to smash into a single movie.

It doesn’t end too late. He is nitpicking. The end scene is extremely important but it does take another watch to catch it all. No spoilers.

I love you but u I hope the Astros lose :(

WB has already said that next year they're gonna make movie theater exclusive for 45 days before even considering putting them on HBO Max

I cannot imagine watching that movie on a laptop or tv. It literally does the film a disservice. Dune was probably the most breathtaking, inversive film I've ever seen in theaters. I want to go back and watch it in IMAX now!

@@RobertLynch-kj7tm oh did that just happen? I thought it was released on HBO

The Imax theater was full that I went to.

It was released in the theaters in a limited run outside of the US before it was released simultaneously in theaters and streaming here in the US. It's already raked in more than $200M in ticket sales alone worldwide.

Well said

I think on paper it was an ideal place to break the story, and that killing Jamis et al. is indeed analogous to Frodo truly accepting the path before him… I think the reason it felt like an awkward and abrupt ending had to do with the pacing of the movie and the weight given to each scene before that. the ending was appropriately weighty, but so weighty was most everything else, some less appropriately so. the whole movie chugged along and never took a break to let us get to know characters or digest the plot developments. but also, I thought the part where he sees the Fremen riding the worm was a bit silly… maybe he could’ve seen that, then approached the edge of some big crevasse and looked over to see thousands of Fremen there to witness him, and then have him say the part about the power of the desert or whatevs.

Just a note... that is not where/how he becomes the Kwisatz Haderach. He hasn't even become Muad'Dib at that point.

I found it very lord of the ringsy

That whole thing bothered me, Paul bests him which is why they fight. Had nothing to do with Lady Jessica, she already proved her worth to them by besting Stil. But they could have at least ended it with him crying and the Fremen being in awe at him shedding water for the dead. Also when the maid who's name I forgot pulls out the crisknife and then hands it to Lady Jessica is wrong, you don't unsheath a crisknife unless you tend to draw which is why they all cut themselves at the end of the movie. Also those things were freaking swords for some reason in this movie. Idk, as a huge fan of the book this movie looked amazing but didn't do the story justice the way Fellowship did for its book.

Ikr, almost lmao

He's always been human. he's just a mentat.

@@clarkmeyer7211 Just with out the badass eye rolling.

Of course he is a human. Only gingers have no soul! xD *JOKE*

@@thomasbaldwin6956 You spelt Harkonans wrong 😁 .. .. In the origunal 1984 Lynch adaptation, all the Harkonens were Gingers ... and Soulless obvs 😂

Most people are not nerds, you don't know what this word means. Liking super popular commercial shit is not being a nerd.

Speak for yourself, I'm a cool dude

@@damazywlodarczyk nah the dude was right. We all geek out over stuff like this

@@richlisola1 No you like to pretend to be a geek or a nerd because now its cool, because nerds/geeks earned billions in silicon valley, its bullshit.

@@damazywlodarczyk Unfashionable is only one part of nerd. hyper focusing on details and being interested in highly technical or intellectual subjects also fits the ACTUAL definition. No need to be a douche. especially when you're wrong.

Totally agree. It's the logical "next leg" of the saga.

I think the biggest problem with the ending is that the idea of paul's first kill being the death of Paul and the rise of the Kwisatz Haderach kind of flys over most people's heads, which is why a lot of people are under the impression that it was a bad ending. I'm not saying that it was a perfect ending, but it's definitely better than a lot of people give it credit for.

Totally agree. It's a wonderful ending, but I honestly could have watched three extra hours of the film, I was that engrossed in it.

And if they went any farther with it they would have had to get into Lady Jessica becoming a reverend mother, decide how to handle the Alia thing, etc. The next day or so is a really busy time in the book.

Bullshit. "Mohadib" is the what the Freman call the "Desert Mouse" Paul keeps encountering and he adopts its name.

Don't forget Scorsese and Spielberg.

LOL. My favorite movie is Lawrence of Arabia, the large majority of which also takes place in the desert.

Totally agree. I can't remember when I've looked forward so much to a sequel right after leaving the cinema.

He's already stated that the second movie probably won't happen. It's depressing, I hope he does make it. A trilogy, would be nice.

@@cyntogia Nope - dune part two officially announced!

@@cyntogia part two is already greenlit and there are rumors that a third is possible

he really isnt

Yes, I loved the more Bedouin/ Moroccan feel. That's exactly the way I imagined it in my head from the books 📚. I might have thrown in a bit more steam punk asthetic. The ornithopters!!!!❤❤❤❤

But no substance.

@@Nautilus1972 Huh, it's only the best scifi ever written. Go write a better book than dune then adapt it to TV screen

The director is amazing: blade runner 2049, arrival and incendies. Check him out.

Yes, dark, heavy, and moody. MORE PLEASE!

and basically everything else

About half way through I checked when each film was written. Couldn’t believe how much this influenced the Star Wars movies.

This feels more pure after being a little deflated about star wars from the most recent trilogy.

Yeah it looked unforgettable in 3D in IMAX. And that 3D was very masterfully low key too, usually Hollywood would (quite literally) throw it at you as a gimmick. If WB are smart - they should do some limited re-runs in IMAX right before Dune part 2 is out. I know I'll watch it again.

@@wrmusic8736 Yeah true that. I don't have an IMAX near me anyway but I'd see a rerun of it

When did he say this? I’m curious if he talks about it in a video. I want to hear his horrible reasoning.

I'm with Tim. Didn't care for it.

@@Archerzz he tweeted it then talked about it on his podcast.

@@kmb957 at the end of the day it’s art and everyone has their own opinion. What did you not like about it? For me it I thought it was fantastic. Top notch visuals, good acting, and a fun story.

Lost a little bit of respect for Tim Pool haha

All the weird shit is in part 2 now. And of course. You’re gonna have more parts. *spoiler* but ……. Paul becomes kind of a Vader figure. Many would argue Duncan is the main bad boy of Children / God Emperor etc

The only one that’s better: 2001 ASO

Exactly. Not mentioning that it would have been weird to start the movie with Paul meeting fremen and then fastforwarding the story two years into future right away. The ending we've got was perfect and it sets up the second part in right way.

Yeah. This is the start if the Jihad. The birth of Alia, spider agony, wierding training. Much to come

I've never read the book, let alone watched the original 1984 version. But I thought the ending was pretty good too. Furthermore, despite the fact that it was very long I truly kept up with it until the end. I am actually Impressed by that. I am definitely looking forward the the second installment.

Read the book, it's great!

@@calstonjew I think he is being sarcastic. I read the book long ago but kept wondering how someone who has not read them would understand many of the scenes; I would figure most of the them meaningless with what was missing.

@@nustada I went in knowing nothing and I thought it was easy to follow. Plus, now it made me want to read the book before part 2 comes out.

I knew very little other than what I knew from what my friend told me about the board game, and when it was over I thought, "that was better than all Star Wars content of the 2000s"

@@nustada Exactly. Scenes were hard to follow and the crap audio only made it more difficult. People that had read the book would find they were looking at a bizarre adaptation that was so ALIEN so lacking in humanity that understanding it was near impossible.

it's pretty faithful to the book, except Dr Kines is not a woman in the book.. but the story line is very close.

@@BindingTheYoke I forgive them for Kines because 1)the actress did a good job, and 2)they didn't make her race/gender the center point like they do in so many other 'swaps'.

Card carrying anti-SJW here, and the Keynes character was faithful to the spirit of the novel, "Bless the Maker."

@@evilblackcat6357 Aaaah but they did sneak in the subtle slavery angle with her saying "I have only one Master.." etc ..easily missed but it didn't suprise me thats why they changed Kines into a black woman for that line alone. Hollywood just can't not squeak in an agenda. But I agree she did a good job portraying the characters disposition and attitude.

@@BindingTheYoke The also had Chani talking about "oppressors" as well in the opening scene, but in the context of the book and plot it made sense. Liet-Kynes was a bit of a zealot towards his own cause in the book, and she was referring to Shai-Hulud for the line you're referring to. They also gave her a more epic death than her counterpart which I was actually satisfied with.

I was under the impression that it was because they ended half way through the first book. I read the 1st book and they still have a lot to go, another 2.5 hours worth of movie without a doubt.

He’s a good film critic, but he has more serious work to do.

You don't need to be a fan of every aspect of a person to show them enough respect to treat them like a human being. He's a good film critic.

I am the opposite, I love Ben but I spaced out in the middle of this review...

@@randomlady6899 Someone's gotta destroy college freshmen with heritage foundation talking points, right?

What did he break down?

I still disagree w his opinion on Zimmer’s score. For me the music and everything was so mesmerizing and it fit into the movie so well

@@njm2699 same.. like, what is he hearing to say it's the blade runner 2049 score all over again? they're completely different vibes, obviously the both sound like Zimmer, but blade runner, dune is not

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Yes, I’m glad they so faithfully captured the villainy of FEYD RAUTHA 🙄

@@neildennis7294 I trust he will be there in part 2.

I think Fellowship has it beat handily , but Dune pt 1 was amazing.

"Faithful"? Are you dumb? They gender and race swapped Kynes for woke brownie points, so no, that proves it's not faithful to the book.

I liked Kynes as a woman

@@humai2939 The gender of the Liet Kynes character is this work doesn’t really matter as long as the performance is good. In the book it was male. In the 1984 movie it was male. In this movie the character of Liet Kynes was played by British actress Sharon Duncan-Brewster and she was great!

I was also concerned at first but the movie really subverted my expectations in a good way.

I thought making Kynes a black woman was ham handed wokism, and detracted from the story. It didn’t make much sense either, when she exclaimed “I am fremen,” since she isn’t. Or wasn’t, just accepted by them. Bad decision.

diversity is not important to story telling leave your politics outside the theater, wokism is dumbism.

Sardaukar's chant pierced me though my chest. When I was reading the book few years ago, I imagined them completely different way. Do I was stunned by this vision and music. Zimmer in my opinion is na equilvalent to Albert Einstein in the composers craft.

Just the fact that Hans Zimmer composed the music alone is enough to turn my "maybe ill go see it" into a "now I have to see it"

@@maciejkirkicki7928 Agreed!! He is crazy talented.

@@epicfiend1999 Awesome!! I don't think you will be disappointed.

The sound was amazing. I don't know if I sat in a sweet spot or something but it gave me chills and a really different experience than other movies where the sound just seems like it's louder in the theater, not incredibly better.

Frank Herbert was a Conservative, least when he wrote the first book. The artradies are a stand in for the Kennedys and their demagoguery. He said this in interviews.

Compared to TODAY, left wing authors in 1965 are basically Hitler

@@Enderwiggan1 No, its subtle, there is a vague anti imperial message. Leto in the book uses propaganda to create a cult of personality for his son. Caledonians who serve him become become homesick and drunk and they all lose their lives in service to the Areides. Each policial move that the atreides make may look altruistic but really surve their pollical gain. By the end of the book only Gurney remains. It more explicit in the second book.

@@PythagorasBeasley What? That makes no sense

Yeah the plot had so many parallels to the French occupation of Algeria & their independence movement, going as far as to directly use Arabic lines of protest & etc.

Obviously people are just gonna assume the worst nowadays, since Hollywood keeps shoving those "strong female" characters down our throats (and the actress playing her is also "hot" right now). But the restraint Villeneuve showed with the character of Lady Jessica indicates that he's not gonna do that, I think. He knows there's already plenty of interesting female characters later on in the story. And if the rumors are true about a spin-off TV series about the Bene Gesserit being in the works, they'll have strong female characters coming out the wazoo in that. There's not that much you can do with Zendaya's character anyway. She kinda comes off looking very naïve in the end. And she eventually gives birth to the worst tyrant in history..., so turning her into a heroic main character would thematically be pretty confusing. I'm willing to bet there will be a bedroom scene between her and Chalemet in part II, to add some sex-appeal to the film, and she'll probably get one of those obligatory "gurl power" scenes where she fights a couple of stuntmen twice her size, but I doubt she'll get much screen-time beyond that.

Problems was the fight was too early..the original film of dune the fight was after Paul and his mother was brought into the Freeman civilization and than the sequence of the right was made..this created more a perfect introduction of Paul moving into his Messiah road