Ben Wallace helps hold Shaq to 14 points in a blowout victory during Game 3 of the 2004 Finals. Shaq started off strong but the Pistons blew them out in the 2nd half and Shaq was quiet down the stretch.
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@OnmyRedEye8 жыл бұрын
I know people would call me weird, but I love defense plays in NBA, of course I love beautiful offense plays as well, but when you watch your favourite team shutting down the opponent, nothing beats it.
@peekbauer8 жыл бұрын
+OnmyRedEye its not weird, I fucking love watching guys like kawhi shutting people down
@thetvchannel12038 жыл бұрын
+OnmyRedEye i wouldnt know cuz lakers havent shut down anyone for 7 years
@brianearts21657 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a blocked shot or a stolen pass!!!
@Panafrocanam2 Жыл бұрын
Nah agreed. Especially football and basketball
@Steve-ov6xn Жыл бұрын
That's not weird at all! I love defense too!!!!
@lamelmazerouno93328 жыл бұрын
some people don't understand how much of a beast Shaq once was, Ben had beautiful defense on Shaq
@lyhthegreat8 жыл бұрын
yea pretty much almost nobody could guard shaq 1 on 1 at that time..
@mrsky674 жыл бұрын
@@lyhthegreat Rodman could.
@lyhthegreat4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsky67 nah, rodman guarded the "lean shaq" in 1996 when he was only around 300lbs, he later bulked up and put on hell lot of weight after he went to the lakers(around 340 to 370lbs) which was when he was at his prime..if rodman guarded the lakers shaq he would had been shoved around like a kid in the post..still what rodman did what nothing short of impressive, a man his size shouldn't be able to guard a monster like shaq..
@mrsky674 жыл бұрын
lyhthegreat He held Lakers Shaq to 0 points in the 2nd half. Try again please.
@lyhthegreat4 жыл бұрын
@@mrsky67 opps, yeah you're right.
@inthename77057 жыл бұрын
LAL only scores 68!? Damn, what a defense by Piston.
@y2shuproblem4 жыл бұрын
The greatest defense I have ever seen in my life.
@Wowvod2 жыл бұрын
They held most of the teams under 80 points in their prime, that was great defense in early 2000’s I miss that kind of defense.
@sicnarf69712 жыл бұрын
@@Wowvod You'll never see it again. It was after this series that the NBA locked down on hand checking. 60-80 point games are not as exciting for fans as 130-140 point games that we see today. Casuals and young fans think todays players are that much better but in reality it's the rules that dictates how the game goes.
@christophergooding98202 жыл бұрын
@@sicnarf6971 lol you’re comparing some of the lowest scoring games back then to some of the highest scoring games now. In 2003-04 average points were 93.4, average points last season (2020-21) was 112.1. Still a big difference but you’re over exaggerating by a lot
@sicnarf69712 жыл бұрын
@@christophergooding9820 Hand checking and physicality give bigger players the advantage. The league has been making rules to take the big man out of the game. 5 second back to the basket violation. Hand checking removed. 2002 legalizing Zone defense to slow down shaq. Physicality reduced. Rewarding flops for years (supposedly the league is cracking down this year on flops and jumping into the defender). All rules to slow down dominant big men or post players. Dominant big men and post players slow the game down. The league wants to speed things up. More points. Fans don’t want to watch Shaq shoot 26 freethrows a night lol. Young fans want to see dunks, posters, deep 3’s.
@kevinlin48258 жыл бұрын
You cant teach that kind of hunger in a player, he was just one bad dude! I cant wait for him to be the the HOF with other great defenders like Rodman and Zo
@realrap12388 жыл бұрын
zo or zbo? and zo as in alonzo mourning ?
@123456765717 жыл бұрын
Rodman is already in the Hall of fame
@schmidt54987 жыл бұрын
+Trey Jones so is alonzo
@JSRC-7 жыл бұрын
I think that's his point tho...
@birdwilson15557 жыл бұрын
that's wtf he said you fucking mockingbird
@JBBGeek7 жыл бұрын
This Piston team is easily the best Pistons team since the Bad Boys. They were the second version; several arguments could be made for either being better than the other. This was the first Finals I ever watched, and it helped me learn what defensive basketball is. It's nice to see those damn Lakers soundly defeated by a TEAM, and not facing against two or three guys in a Finals like they usually did.
@donedrivingschool8 жыл бұрын
in the whole piston teams.. in my opinion, this is the greatest.. simple basic basketball at its highest
@mcasianbistro7 жыл бұрын
Don Elizalde one of the greatest defensive teams ever. 4th qtr 3.38 left laker have only 62 points. CRAZY. wonder how they would fair against golden state with KD
@mrsky674 жыл бұрын
You can make the case. Definitely a top 2 defensive team in NBA history.
@mavs1037 жыл бұрын
When the pistons won still one of the happiest days of my life!
@MrKalico18 жыл бұрын
Detroit had a squad that year
@94fleetwood497 жыл бұрын
Damn! LAL barely had 60points in a finals games with Kobe & Shaq!🤤
@zr03f0rt77 жыл бұрын
Sucks we cant see real men, like Big Ben and Shaq do battle in the paint anymore in todays NBA.
@serciasoliven64117 жыл бұрын
yup, they all soft, this days, plus changing so many rules like the stupid freedom of movement inside the paint.
@YkBossDurant3 жыл бұрын
Rudy gobert and Nikolai Jokic has some good battles this year
@flipflop43963 жыл бұрын
I loved mid late 90s bastetball, Centers were freaking Titans...
@user-gd7go1ob3g3 жыл бұрын
Yeahh.. That's why there's so many flopper's
@lgt25293 жыл бұрын
giannis vs zion, joel embiid
@jakethemuss38 жыл бұрын
Prince on Kobe was equally as effective.
@TheStatisfiedOne7 жыл бұрын
jakethemuss3 even more effective shaq had still good numbers
@seany1508hh4 жыл бұрын
Yea nobody could stop shaq. only difference vs detroit was he would still get his numbers just 1v1 instead of doubled
@forwardthinkingtv49933 жыл бұрын
Shaq had a bunch of turnovers. Numbers can lie if you only look in the scoring column
@taylorsayliss38153 жыл бұрын
Kobe just took bad shots
@eyeconqueror11853 жыл бұрын
@@taylorsayliss3815 nah he was getting forced to pass out of shots and pick his dribble up a bunch too. Tayshaun was locking him down, dude.
@RyanLBrown93964 жыл бұрын
Strictly from a size perspective, I think Big Ben vs Shaq was the closest my generation came to Russell vs Wilt.
@geekinvibe3 жыл бұрын
): real
@zackrodriguez75192 жыл бұрын
Holding the Lakers to 68 points just shows that this was an all time great defensive team
@pinoyclasico8932 Жыл бұрын
People say Dennis is the only guy who could defend Shaq one on one, they forgot this guy.
@ChrisM07 Жыл бұрын
Plenty of guys were able to, there's highlights on here with Charles Oakley also doing an extremely effective job on him.
@timsibayan10677 жыл бұрын
And he's just 6'9"! Imagine if he was a 7 footer
@Earuto47 жыл бұрын
6'6 without shoes on.
@TheStatisfiedOne7 жыл бұрын
Paul Cervantes more like 6"8 without shoes
@firmanhfirdaus7 жыл бұрын
6'3 without hair
@xavierblackburn62887 жыл бұрын
Dee Shakur He admitted he's 6'7
@geraldbobiles77557 жыл бұрын
he's 6'5 without balls
@SaadFAzam9 ай бұрын
Man this Pistons team was so great. No superstars... and they were just dominant as hell
@y2kenyon4 жыл бұрын
Bro, Big Ben would not let that boi into that circle. ha ha.
@theorentenerife89813 жыл бұрын
Ben Wallace alongside with Hakeem Olajuwon, Dennis Rodman, and Patrick Ewing are the best players to defend Shaq.
@lilbigtv23572 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Yao Ming
@ChrisM072 жыл бұрын
David Robinson usually defended him pretty well too.
@rangerheir5821 Жыл бұрын
Kwame brown
@andrewkim77007 жыл бұрын
Wallace was one of the few players that was able to defend shaq. its crazy cuz u could see he's smaller, but was just as strong.
@luisofthelion Жыл бұрын
Yup he definitely had leg strength for days. All out effort, too.
@jameswalker68647 ай бұрын
Not equally strong as Shaq, but strong enough to stop him in many of his attacks. Which is more than what 99% of centers could do. Only Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman could consistently defend Shaq. Not even Yao could defend him that well as Wallace and Rodman.
@MichaelEMJAYJohnson8 жыл бұрын
This just reminds me that there was a time when Gary Payton, Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant and Shaq were all on the same team.
@austinlittke7688 Жыл бұрын
Yea but Karl Malone and Payton were average at best TBH and didn't really fit in with the team well
@michealkelly94417 жыл бұрын
big ben would be even more dominant in todays undersizef era
@dreamsoda8973 жыл бұрын
Needs to learn how to shoot tho...
@boyzaya153 жыл бұрын
Undersized?
@jack123killa3 жыл бұрын
@@boyzaya15 yes no one is really build with mass they are more lanky slim built centers who can move around the floor quick. You don’t see much sluggers power houses type Mfs in today’s game
@jamesthemaniac32938 жыл бұрын
travel at 2:10 wonder how many of those shaq got away with in his career.
@JotaP1n3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the amount of strength you need to do that...holy sh...
@dawsdaws968 жыл бұрын
Cracks me up when Doc says Larry is about to get a tech.
@robg82037 жыл бұрын
Was I the only one to here the commentator say "88 to 68, the Lakers win it" at the end? I know it doesn't matter but it's kinda funny.
@kinglucha36403 жыл бұрын
Just more disrespect on that D.
@geekinvibe3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@geezushasrisen7 жыл бұрын
Shaq always had problems with Ben Wallace.
@fieryjalapenos44429 ай бұрын
Everyone hates on this Pistons team so much and it irks me to no end. Probably because your favorite team got locked up and you can’t handle it. This team was insane.
@noosurprises7 ай бұрын
Love how you showed not just possessions where Shaq misses but also the one he makes
@CzarAice016 ай бұрын
exactly. because this shows that great defense fail sometimes but it will succeed more times than it doesn't
@AllPureSkill8 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Shaq hates Ben lol
@kinglucha36403 жыл бұрын
He respects the hell out of him.
@DaMeshMonster4 жыл бұрын
So fun to watch even today.
@TylerNicely8 жыл бұрын
That moment when you hear Stuart Scott's voice...
@OneElseV4 жыл бұрын
4:20 camera under the rim.
@geekinvibe3 жыл бұрын
Facts wtf is that
@ibringthelastwords1358 Жыл бұрын
A 6'8 turning to 6'9 with his afro hair defended one of the most dominant centers in the history on his prime is just blown my mind 🤯
@asalcatraz2334 Жыл бұрын
He's Black so he can jump higher even with his big size. Genetics don't lie
@matt_ohern3 жыл бұрын
Larry Brown was smart enough to leave the double team defensive shifts for Kobe rather than shaq since Kobe could easily drain 3-pointers. Just single team shaq because even if has a monster night, the Lakers still needed 25+ from Kobe to win.
@Repetoire10 ай бұрын
Ben Wallace had that fire. Joakim Noah reminded me of him
@bogmire77068 жыл бұрын
At the beginning, Ben was getting scored on a lot but picked it up at the end
@JMOFOREVER7777 жыл бұрын
Modern day russel vs wilt
@nofooIn7 жыл бұрын
Ball don't lie!
@rodericksears6383 жыл бұрын
Ben Wallace was an offensive force this series as well.
@danield30907 жыл бұрын
Best finals series. Pistons were the underdogs coming in and got the job done. Hopefully Cleveland can pull off the upset this year against GSW
@RockHash9 ай бұрын
And they said no one could guard Shaq.
@ITriggerClownsАй бұрын
Lol Shaq averaged 26 ppg shooting better than 60% that series. So no, Ben couldn’t guard Shaq lol. Maybe you should watch the entire series instead of a highlight reel. You’ll see that Shaq actually played well and Kobe was awful. Let’s not spread tall tales
@RayleighAli3 жыл бұрын
4:57 The GOAT 🐐
@raygordonteacheschess550110 ай бұрын
Wallace was the only player who made Shaq look human. Just his presence was a deterrent.
@gilfordmccormack8140 Жыл бұрын
Ben more than held his own defensively that series.
@ChrisM074 ай бұрын
The Pistons had a very strong defensive frontline in general they alternated in guarding Shaq and wearing him down.
@nomooon9 жыл бұрын
comparing this to your 2006 highlight of same matchup, it feels like shaq here can still look pretty good...
@jonagro558 Жыл бұрын
Darko milicic sighting 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@marlonoraye35743 жыл бұрын
Good Defense all around but don’t forget Shaq was hurt in this series.
@usnate17 жыл бұрын
Greatest Defensive players of all time: 1) Russell 2) Ben Wallace 3) Hakeem 5) Pippen 6) Rodman
@RRRRRRRRR337 жыл бұрын
Russell don't belong in this conversation. The guy said himself that his body structure is similar to Trevor Ariza, He played a different game, unfair for both sides to compare him with modern players.
@usnate17 жыл бұрын
Rafael Teles You're presuming off of the hypothetical/theoretical; all we have is reality, and the reality is that no one in his era had as many blocks or steals per game as he did...that's without even mentioning the offensive and defensive rebounds. How many years have people said this: "Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double in a season b/c of the pace; and it can't be duplicated in today's league." Yet Russell Westbrook is doing it now...it should really stop the general undervaluing of older era players of the 60's and 70's and 80's.
@zactown37367 жыл бұрын
No compliance I might be late but you have no number 4 and you missed dikembe mutombo
@RRRRRRRRR337 жыл бұрын
No compliance This is not about undervalue, this is about common sense. The own players says otherwise, there are multiple Jerry West interviews that he admits his era was so drastically different, it's impossible to compare with modern players. Wilt is the only well know jurassic player who bragged about his era, all the others admited they played a totally different sport. You will deny the own people who actually played back there? WestBrook is averaging a td on his own way, it will be extremely disrespectful if people ended up comparing his season with Oscar Robertson's season. I can see the own Oscar debulking this at the end of the season. Jordan undervalued Kobe, saying West is a better guard than him. West himself said otherwise, not because he is humble, it's because this is only rational.
@Manufan-og1xg7 жыл бұрын
No compliance How is Bill Russel on there, and not Duncan!?!
@2commentsahday9228 жыл бұрын
i rember wallace on old old video games
@WorldwideWyatt8 жыл бұрын
I remember Mike Tyson in an old video game.
@brianwatts51857 жыл бұрын
I loved this series really wanted the Lakers to win buy Detroit deserved it
@jeuelvonanilao9532 жыл бұрын
No one give a defense like before.
@ejbals99513 жыл бұрын
these are the modern bad boys but much more disciplined guys. i hope Rodman has a lot of match ups with Shaq back those days like Wallace have this one in a single game.
@HOYOUNGZOA8 жыл бұрын
badboys
@webking1857 жыл бұрын
Larry Brown coached and excellent series. he let guys go 1 on 1 with shaq. he did not let kb or shaq beat them. others had to prove they can beat them. deroit could hv swept them
@walterlv017 жыл бұрын
Granted Shaq by that time was not the dominant 2000-2002 version but still Wallace in this series defended him better than anyone ever had up to that point. He only even got 5 fouls in a game once, and that was an overtime game.
@ChrisM072 жыл бұрын
Shaq wasn't as dominant of a scorer by this point because he had more stars on the team with him. He still got his numbers the problem he had was really on the defensive end, he often had to go further out and defend most of the teams he played against he was usually able to stay inside and roam around.
@fieryjalapenos44429 ай бұрын
You seem to forget he was the driving force behind Miami winning on 06.
@lebronblew5finalsnottop5ne228 жыл бұрын
Watch the games, you'll see Ben couldn't stop him. They stopped feeding him they ball.mkobe for the most part, I assume this is when he was dealing with his personal life an people saying he couldn't win without him.
@forgotaboutbre7 жыл бұрын
Kind of patch - work team this year too with Payton and Malone joining the scene.
@amielbenedictmirasol68082 жыл бұрын
Pls make the 3 second rule to atleast 5 secs
@dropapi8 жыл бұрын
to think the Lakers could have won 4 in a row is unbelievable. Shaq & Kobe were truly unstoppable
@thetvchannel12038 жыл бұрын
+dropapi it wouldnt have been 4 in a row it would have been 4 in 5 years, they lost in 2002-2003 to spurs
@realrap12388 жыл бұрын
+TheTVChannel still greatness
@thetvchannel12038 жыл бұрын
Real Rap i know, i agree, im a laker fan, thats why i was being a stickler on the years, i remember them dearly, it was 8th grade and i had a hot girlfriend
@realrap12388 жыл бұрын
+TheTVChannel 😂😂😂 Man it must've been nice for ya at the time
@thetvchannel12038 жыл бұрын
Real Rap thats why they say it's the greatest years of our lives
@EpiCxM0n3Y Жыл бұрын
Damn bet on the under in this one 😂
@papabear2293 жыл бұрын
Who else here believe that Detroit Pistons would beat the Lakers in NBA finals 04? Got laughed about it, so made a bet to my friends & neighbors lol and i won big money worth 3 months of my salary. Love rooting for the underdogs :)
@donuprising90667 жыл бұрын
1:20 OH SHIT
@vxaahg53025 ай бұрын
1:20 eles andaram igual
@SniffyPoo7 жыл бұрын
LA just didnt have enough horses in that series. they needed more young blood.
@tevinrichie4304 Жыл бұрын
Ben press 450lbs. I had to see what that do in a nba game
@belalfarhat50187 жыл бұрын
shoutout if osd sent u
@legendtimduncan51042 жыл бұрын
68 points???
@romero21487 ай бұрын
Got only one championship in that era if there is a rematch with this 2 teams I'll pick Lakers
@ChrisM075 ай бұрын
The Lakers got to the finals in the first place because of luck. First Fisher's .04 shot against the Spurs and then Cassell being hurt in the wcf. They were clearly beatable Pistons taking them down convincingly wasn't all that surprising.
@lukeperry0857 жыл бұрын
That's about as well as you can do against someone who they pretty much refuse to call for offensive fouls or setting up camp in the key!
@MrThestiffmiceter7 жыл бұрын
shaq is too strong
@superfans23247 жыл бұрын
he was shut down by big ben already
@JxCru5 ай бұрын
didn't look like the lakers tried to run anything on offense
@ericlittle23692 жыл бұрын
“88-68 the Lakers win it.” 😂
@daviddufresne3432 жыл бұрын
Stern should have just kicked out Artest and Jackson rather than change the rules. While I wouldn't want every game to have the high scoring team to have less than 90, its fine for the playoffs.
@702TifosiGambler Жыл бұрын
Pistons used the Jordan Rules on Kobe basically played an illegal defense and the refs let ‘em
@Ideaz864 ай бұрын
The spacing is so shitty how tf did they even make it to the finals
@jeezydogpsn8 жыл бұрын
Sai Ramesh
@jeezydogpsn8 жыл бұрын
because as i recall the pistons had there own set of kobe rules
@jeezydogpsn8 жыл бұрын
He was off like Mj vs the sonics and its hard as a perimeter player going against the whole team scheme set for u Kobe Not Top 100 Mamba Wiggins
@kobenottop10038 жыл бұрын
D-Wade did much better than Kobe vs the same Pistons team in 2005. After 2005 Larry Brown left so 2006 team wasn't the same
@jeezydogpsn8 жыл бұрын
Correct Kobe Not Top 100 I give u that
@jeezydogpsn8 жыл бұрын
+ucialum exactly
@LeStephanie692 жыл бұрын
Y’all are acting like shaq went 0-10 0 rebounds 0 blocks 0 steals. Shaq still sonned Ben in this series lol
@ChrisM07 Жыл бұрын
You're missing the point, the Pistons gameplan was to tire him down the stretch so he would be less effective in the 4th. Shaq also had to go out to the perimeter a lot to defend and was having difficulty keeping up with the more athletic Pistons frontline in transition. Duncan was able to adjust better against the Pistons defense the following year because he was a more versatile player overall compared to Shaq, plus he had Horry who could stretch the defense out.
@LeStephanie69 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisM07 wut lol
@ChrisM07 Жыл бұрын
@@LeStephanie69 What I'm saying is Shaq was gonna score points regardless, however the Pistons had tough frontline defenders with help from the perimeter players at times to throw Shaq off and force him into rushing some shots or turning it over to go along with the problems they also gave him on defense. Ben wasn't always guarding Shaq there was also Elden Campbell and Mehmet Okur who played pretty solid defense on him as well.
@LeStephanie69 Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisM07 wut
@ChrisM07 Жыл бұрын
@@LeStephanie69 You know "wut".
@PeterJustGames7 жыл бұрын
What the fuck happened to Kobe in this series? Going for 4/4 in the Finals and you play that bad... Damn
@TGF257 жыл бұрын
Peter Skotta Tayshaun Prince happened! He was a nightmare wing defender for guys like Kobe & Tracy McGrady!
@JattAnmoli7 жыл бұрын
Peter Skotta and shaq the big man walked onto the court with ben the strong man
@samuelcoleman42647 жыл бұрын
Belize2787 💯
@kyukosanagi59234 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha wallace already dominated shaq
@holygoat8 жыл бұрын
Psst, Al. The Lakers lost. Sorry.
@thomaswayne20763 жыл бұрын
Idk how people watch this and aren’t like wow the Lakers have a lineup where Luke Walton Khareem Rush Mevedenko and Brian Cook are on the floor Of course they only have 68 points 🤣 the lakers were literally playing 2 on 5 lmao and only shooter they had was D Fish, Malone played some of the games but he was hurt and Payton was solid but can’t shoot, but go to the gym and put a bum on your team and see how hard it is because they can’t shoot to space the floor, guys can double team off them and none of them are good defenders themselves either People act like this is the same Lakers that 3 peat because of Kobe and Shaq but no team has ever won a ring with that many bad players getting playing time off the bench, Luke Walton tried to drive on Ben Wallace 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@harvyarmada5466 Жыл бұрын
Im glad malone didn't win any chip. Lol!
@tonygambino59058 жыл бұрын
Shaq could have been called for a foul every single time. According to the rules, you are not allowed to back the defensive player down like that. You are not allowed to move a defensive player from his position once he is planted. That is an offensive foul.
@mrslick588 жыл бұрын
This isn't the 1960s lol you are allowed to do this
@thetvchannel12038 жыл бұрын
+Tony Gambino you are allowed to back down your damn opponent if you cant do that what the hell is left
@haileyamador66408 жыл бұрын
+Tony Gambino shaq wouldn't be nowhere close to how he was with the soft league today
@moa38218 жыл бұрын
+Tony Gambino the league wasnt soft back then
@WorldwideWyatt8 жыл бұрын
+SHANE DEMARS backing someone down is not an offensive foul or they wouldn't need the 5 second back to basket rule.