When people mentioned the 't' in Toronto, you should have started saying "Oronto" instead xD

What about supabase replication? Supabase got destroyed here but it didn't look like they enabled replication.

​@Cookie note that all setups were provided by the database vendors themselves! (author here). This is not a benchmark where we set up other vendors, this is organized by Vercel and each vendor set up their own systems.

ok, that is pretty neet. but good to know.

Not sure how planet scale works but I guess the benefit or turso is that you can just write to the replica and call it a day. You can offload the slow request to the primary to turso. I’d be interested in how they keep their system fault tolerant so that they don’t drop writes if a node fails

For optimistic updates I bet this would still slap (ie experiences like Linear)

+ Turso website is the fastest one i visited in a looooong time

​@Tunema hey - author of the blog here. I was actually born and raised in Brazil, although by now my Portuguese sucks a bit! Glad to see you liked the website

coé parça

@@crazycoder9356 doidera meu brod

If the data need to be fresh then you just need to read directly on the write connection. Does it work in this case?

I question when this actually is important. Stock tickers? Your avg CRUD SaaS probably won't care even for up to a minute lag. >5min and we have problems tho for sure.

you can always ask Glauber on twitter. he is pretty open about a lot of the decisions they make

@@ThePrimeTimeagen hmm, might be worth getting an actual Twitter account one of these days...

Even Oracle didn't support FKs until v8.x. From Oracle v4 through v7 it was a royal handicap not having them.

yeah, the 1v1 results show a big difference as is but the read replication is a pay for feature only. i reached out to the author and he said he used only free tiers for this test.

Author here! The tool is provided by Vercel, not us, and each database contributed their own setups - including Planetscale. That said, this is not really a benchmark against Planestcale - they actually did fantastic ! You are right that with read replicas planetscale (and others) can achieve this, but there is a reason they - and others - didn't add replicas in this test. It's quite expensive! The advantage of Turso, that I tried to touch on the article, is how easy and cheap (the free tier alone already has 3 locations) is to set up replication. Great comment, though! ❤

or keep everything local, like in an android app

Yeah the JavaScript thing kind of sucks

Doesnt vercel edge use CF workers which supports rust?

C++‘s share Pointers are thread safe by default meaning they have extra over head on construction because they are atomic. Rust has Rc and Arc for specific use case. Rust io and string manipulation is leagues ahead of C++. The compiler, build tools, packages and ecosystem are better. CMake is horrible, i build recursive globing smart CMake scripts with for loops macros function… it’s horrible. Cargo is a dream to work with. Again the dependency management is just better. And Rust is just plain more fun to write in

Other than terrible ecosystem/toolchain, C++ is extremely hard to learn and extremely easy to cause some serious issues in without even realizing it. It's super feature-bloated and those features are not easily discoverable, a lot of the more modern changes are good but at this point it's almost impossible to know what's best practice, what you should do and what you should avoid, reading someone else's code can be hell even if you're already very proficient at it. There's less and less junior C++ jobs nowadays, because juniors are useless at writing C++, you're either very good at it or you're useless, or even potentially detrimental to the project if your mistakes go unnoticed. Since better alternatives exist nowadays, there's simply no reason to use it, and no reason for new devs to learn it.

ok real talk, i wasn't paid to read this. yeah i am sponsored on various things for the overall company behind it, but this was a "non sponsored" content. reasonably speaking, do i put ad or not on it? i genuinely don't know

@@ThePrimeTimeagen you should clarify your relationship with turso at the beginning of the video similar to linustechtips does with his investment in framework even if the video is not directly sponsored. you obfuscated this relationship by saying "this is my favorite database", "he is a very nice guy" and "turso engineers are very smart people" without disclosing the sponsorship. you also did it again in the pinned message e.g. you did not reach out to "the author", but to your sponsor. this is a problem, because i watch your videos to learn about new tech. these statements make it look like this is the best thing ever and i should check out libsql and turso. but not disclosing the relationship undermines your credibility a lot for me, because i have now to double check every project you talk about.

that is the only way to pronounce it