Me: where is the samadhi fire? Season 4: 🎶well it’s gone it’s gone it’s gone🎶

this show really suffers from its limited season and episode length. So many storylines could've been expanded on if only they were given more time to be fleshed out.

mei is getting her great great great great ansestors treatment

I think these problems could be solved if the show wasn't limited to 11 minutes per episode, 10 episodes per season, and a 40-minute special each season finale. That's one of the things I wish were different. Overall, I love this show and don't even have many criticisms about it.

I think season 3 should be a Redson centric season, like subtracting the Samadhi fire failing and leaving a smaller ring inside of him. In season 3 Redson coming with the crew to stop the Lady Bone Demon to get some closure of what she done to his father. Also we can get a plot line of Redson reclaiming the power that gave him so much trouble when he was a kid, just like MK reclaiming Wukongs powers.

Despite the inconsistent power system and timeline the show surprisingly is well written enough for me to just forgive these blunders 😭 the buildup for the samadhi fire was good imo, it wasn't sudden. However they completely nerfed it and never brought it up again, which is fascinating since it's a potent deity killer

I’m really exited for S5 because I’m pretty sure the writers confirmed that we will be exploring Mei and her family WAY more in S5 (ALSO it is the year of the dragon so yk🐉)

Tbf the whole samhadi fire deal is ironically ... Undercooked

They actually made her like the horse in the book,making her not use well,ironic

Hopefully in S5 they get a good interaction between Mei and wukong because they like NEVER interact on their own in S4 and any time they DO interact it’s always with the GROUP. Heck I actually don’t think they even TALK to eachother in S4! So, either they just didn’t realise they didn’t make these two interact OR they are trying to save it for S5.

Honestly, it never occurred to me that Mei doesn’t really have many victories. The most I heard of Mei in context of season 3 was in terms of shipping, rather than her own character. (This is not to bash shippers or anything, just stating a personal observation.) It is a worrying pattern in general, but it has a bit more weight bc its the only main female character. The pattern of “Mei powers up, then is interrupted by outside factor” still continues in the season 4 special.

Amazing how the show is still this good, even in its weaker seasons. I feel like that's a testament to just how solid Mokie Kid actually is. I really hope we get a lot of more character focused seasons that can tie their arcs together a little better though.

Why was the samadhi fire just written off in season 4 for no reason 😭?

I hate that for the whole season they kept saying that the samadhi fire was the ONLY way to defeat lbd but then proceeded to defeat her without it. It was so disappointing cause Mei could’ve finally had her own victory.

Mei having the Samadhi fire is useless to add, never used after s3, and makes it feels pointless for her to use it

Macaque never gets called out with Wukong, just Wukong and It feel let down and disappointed, that Wukong only one gets the consequences from Mei herself

I feel like with all the situations of MK always overshadowing Mei in shows of power, the writers are setting up some sort of “warrior is abandoned by hero” thing with him, but I personally would prefer a better character arc for her over that repeating history stuff. I would have loved to see a struggle of having to suppress her loud personality in order to control the fire, and redefining her perception of herself within her conflict with family!!

I'll say one thing here, the smartie kid episode holds nothing to the plot of season 3 asides giving MK his golden eyes of truth back, and it couldve been a better episode with the same characters. Its that type of episode that feels it should've been in season one as a slice of life, and it could've been where MK tries to win this game and continues to fail, so Mei drags Wukong, as the others are busy with the TEA, to find an alternative. And maybe her and Monkey King could've talked about their love for MK, or their differences, or maybe Wukong tried to distance himself at the mention of her ancestors fue to the samadhi fire or him missing them too greatly. Maybe we get him talking to jer about jer family, and she shows and talks about her dynamic with them, but Wulong feels unsure as Ao Lie was one of his besties(especially since hes a canonical horse girl). And goes out of his way to show that her ancestors should be proud of her or something akin to that. Idk maybe goldfish demon guy could be a ruse and hilds a grudge against mei's family and underestimates her since she may not be the idea of what he had in mind. I just do my best to avoid that episode since i feel it doesn't do anything.

11:20 Mei's power build up and being interrupted by MK's story/powers honestly doesn't really bother me as much as I thought it would, because Mei and MK have often had their dynamic be compared to Wukong and Macaque. We all know the story of the Hero and the Warrior, and how Wukong would always steal the spotlight, leaving Macaque behind in the shadows. I don't know if it is intentional or not, but this is happening with Mei in MK's story. If Season 5 really is expanding more on Mei's story, we may start to see the big shift in their dynamic and Mei taking up more of the action while MK is struggling with his issues, much similar to what Macaque had to do when Wukong was dealing with his own (before or after the havoc in heaven, you can decide)

Glad to see someone else love the show but still retain issues with it! It has a rather confusing continuity (it picks and chooses what carries over from JTTW, whether MK is actually invincible or not, etc), its focus on the main cast is inbalanced, and sometimes it’s too fast-paced for its own good. Despite that, we can still say it’s one hell of a show!! Can’t wait to see your next video on it. From the sounds of it, we’re not getting season 5 for a while yet.

Your point about the samadhi fire scene is literally shown through the shots. While she’s consumed by the samadhi fire, the pinnacle of everything the show had been hinting about her for the entire season, the camera is almost exclusively on Wukong and the rest of the cast.

I agree with all of this but tbh I feel like the Fire should’ve went to redson in the first place, don’t get my wrong I love mei but I feel like she doesn’t even need it 😭 + SHE DOSENT EVEN USE IT IN SEASON 4 but if they kept redson a villain and gave him the fire omg it would’ve been amazing

Mei is my absolute favorite character of the show and i was so happy that she got the samadi fire arc but then it just….. went away??? Bullshit!! Justice for my girl!!

I'm sorry but i will never not be insanely pissed and upset about how the fire was given to mei instead of red son, this plot choice in my opinion is a flaw in of itself. They wasted a potential villain-to-redemption arc for him and he ends up feeling more like a side character when he should be more important. If you disagree with me saying the fire should have been reds, just think for a moment how insanely interesting of a plot that would be, a sort-of-ally suddenly losing his mind and becoming another threat before a redemption, reds redemption has been built up, even subtly, since season one and i fully expected for it to reach its climax and conclusion in season 3 but noooooo they went with giving mei an "ok" arc when she deserved so much more and making red suddenly a good-ish guy MEI DESERVES HER OWN REAL ARC. this didn't feel like her arc! I can't even recall if she developed AT ALL! *TRAUMA IS NOT DEVELOPMENT*

Idk why but season 3 is one that I constantly find rewatching (besides s2) and had a plot twist I wasn't expecting Fair points, IMO it's the best

I'm still waiting for that Macque video since he's one of the coolest characters in the series of monkey kid and a very interesting character.

I hope you don't get attacked,the Fandom hates criticism

honestly I feel the way this couldve been handled was probably just giving the show more time. They didnt fully know if they were getting a season 4 and probably felt they had to tie it all up in a nice bow. I wish we wouldve had some more focus on mei trying to control the samadhi fire in season 4. we get a mention and thats it. It felt like it was brushed away in favor of MK's whole thing. I absolutely love season 3, its my favorite of all the seasons, but the samadhi fire deserved a bit more time. cutting out episode 3 and giving the samadhi fire one more episode seems like the best course of action in my opinion. along with season 4 giving a bit more of focus with it. we get a hint of mei development with what she tells ao lie, but like, nothing beyond that. I want a liiitle bit more on that front. nothing that breaks the plot in my opinion, but def something that should be adressed

My other peeves with this season was Episode 3, Macaque not getting called out for his faults and Wukong not bothering to interact with the rest of the cast. I know that they look like his old friends and it’s probably uncomfortable for him to look at the shadows of his past, but they still need his help both physically and mentally. Especially MK, he was clearly traumatized and no one bothered to comfort him about it. I enjoy your analysis still. Can’t wait to see other videos like this.

I hope that in season 5 (if there will be a season 5) that mei, pigsy,sandy,tang, and Nezha have more development and impact on the story. Edit: I realize that it would also be nice if their ancestors could have more development aswell

beginning of s3 special Mei: *casually holding the universe together and laughing off her trauma * Wukong: lady bone demon I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY MY WOOOOOOORRRRRLD (It’s a jojo reference)

i was so disapointed when we doesn't get a deep Mei's family 😢

This show could've definitely used some of teen titans touches(13 episode per season,episodes 20-23 minutes or longer,each season dedicated to One character,less hyperactive animation)! No?

I can't make any promises, but mei got a giant lego mech and dragon figure. Both over 100 Canadian. So i really don't imagine she isn't gonna be left behind considering the show still is a toy add.

This video’s thoughts on Mei in Season 3 in a nutshell: *Wasted True Potential*

i know this is kinda irrelevant to the topic of the overall video but i wish mei went at wukong a little bit harder at the end of the season. he's quite literally the reason she has the samadhi fire and his mistakes directly led to everything that went on in season 3. idk i just wish she grilled him a little harder, because he kind of deserves it at this point. idk lmao i know its irrelevant but its just a thought i had whilst rewatching the show

Really great look into Mei’s character, I wish they gave her more!! Great video as always and make good points

i 100% agree on the mei and wukong thing like they definitely deserved more screentime together, i love their dynamic so much the title had me nervous(cuz i LOVE season 3 lol) but youre very right here, i wish the show didnt push mei aside as often as they do

They made samadhi fire, to OP and never used it well, it also wukong was a weakness they never used, she was too OP and never use great

So essencially, you say this show suffers from the exact same problem as hero 108,"too mutch story to chew through, yet not enough epis runtime for doing so"? It'd explain why"$pecials"do wrap ups!

really really well said. my sister and i were also so confused when they never mentioned the samadhi fire again!! and when they trained with shifu subhodi he said mei needed to grow and then. didn't bring it up again. incredibly strange. i love mei and i wish (as you said with the moon episode) that she was more intertwined with characters besides mk, and made her anger at wukong built up more.

To me it doesn’t make sense that Red son didn’t receive the Fire back as the original vessel I understand the DBK family are side characters of the side characters but Red son has been practicing all of his life with his flame and for that just to be a portion of what his original self was and beyond that there’s no explanation of why he was born with that much power the they literally just say DBK kids are special but he was Super special like??? And all of that for this super OP World changing power just to end up as nothing in the next season is almost ridiculous

You have all my critical thoughts about s3 and mei character so far and in s4

Ive always felt like mei and wukong would always have an interesting dynamic because of how similar mei is to wukongs younger self(Im not saying they are similar in issuses) and the whole samadhi fire couldve really help show it. Side note how the HELL DID MEI LOSE? Youre telling me she has a powerful weapon wanted by both sides because it could beat the lbd and she loses. Why? What benefit does it have?

I have so many Mei theory’s that I’m hoping they explore in season 5 mostly her family and relations to the dragon of the east one as her parents have their own dragon form things but Mei doesn’t. The dragon she fights with is Aolie’s dragon form and He is tied to the sword somehow and I want to know more.

I wonder why the samadhi fire didn't affect Wukong? In JTTW it was the only 'fire that Sun Wukong wasn't immune to? (I think I'd like to see Mei being mad after seeing SWK at the temple and attacking him and then MK comes in and trys to stop her because he doesn't want to hurt his mentor and Mei is like, "why are you here MK!?" with a mix of shame, anger at being stopped and is worried for MK! (I am NOT a writer, please forgive me if it's a bit off from the timing of the show or just a bit too cringe)

Also I very much agree that the fact this season was probably written as maybe being the final one might have changed the direction it could have done

I feel like they could be doing a lot more with Mei in general, there’s a lot of setup with her in seasons 3 and 4 that ends up falling to the wayside.

JUST STARTED THE VID AND OOOOH MY GOD FINALLY SOMEONE TALKS ABOUT THIS

great video

Monkie kid is a great show though by itself it would be a great show with the sets it is Aaaaaaaa btw the shot when mai uses her dragon on macaque and mk it it is great the chills for me for no reason

Great video satisfaction watch ❤❤❤

Mei has Millie (from Helluva boss)syndrome

A personal annoyance when it comes to the shows writing, especially for season 3, was the wasted potential and missed opportunity of Mei’s powers and reason’s usage within the season. I found it weird that mei, a Chinese dragon, barely uses her dragon abilities, just the sword snd dragonkinesis, which is cool but her other abilities would be amazing to see. Gassing dragons can grant wishes, shapeshift and control the water and weather. Since mei already has an arc about accepting herself as part of her family, I think I’d would’ve been if after meeting Ao Guang, he wouldn’t taught her about her “true potential” when it came to her powers and abilities as a dragon, insulating her to know more about her family and culture. I was mainly thinking that this comics coincided with mei practicing controlling lightning, water or gaining her dragon from in the background of season 3, which couldn’t coincided with her trying to use her new found powers to break free from the fire of samadhi but failing; resulting in her feeling useless, dangerous, ect and have her character arc then be similar to MK’s with trying to gain/ learn her powers. It also would’ve then made sense to have her try and relinquish the fire from her since she knows it’s dangerous and doesn’t want to use it on top of already having a set of abilities that she wants to master. Given the fact that redson himself was the person who made the samadhi fire and even trained mei in joe to harness and control it I thought it was weird that there wasn’t a scene where they “gave” it back to him since he seems like the best option to have it, plus he’s redeemed in a sense and we don’t need two fire users on the team (oh wait mei never used it again so I guess we do only have one lol). Spitballing but I think they definitely could’ve done more with mei in general, especially in s3

I think Mei's training could have been important if they hadn't made the fire null and void after the season 3 special. We never see it in s4 and that is disappointing to me because it makes it feel as tho it never had meaning in the first place, in season 3 it was a mcguffin to drive the story along and once aquired it was basically forgotten about as a necessary part to defeat LBD and disappears right after her defeat

Well damn, now I miss monkie kid again, though I’m hyped as hell for dragons rising s2 since well, ninjago’s back to being peak, I’m ngl, I’m more hyped for monkie kid s5

This show terribly need longer duration, but if they can't, they need more episodes quota. But, I also know this will be expense for the show's overal animation. I just hope they find solution for this.

Season 3 last few episodes and the s3 special is monkie kidd's best shit in my opinion so i wouldn't want a thing to change ong.

i haven't had a chance to actually watch the full video yet (so yell at me under this comment if it was brought up KEKW) but i find it interesting that Shifu Subhodi says that mei "once wielded the samadhi fire" like??? WHERE'D IT GO????

In seasone 4 when Subhodi mentios that Mei doesn't have the Samadhi fire anymore I was so confused. Mei was still able to use green fire so I guess she just can use fire now? And did she give it back to Red Son? But then why didn't he use it against Azure Lion? WHERE IS THE SAMADHI FIRE?!

Yep!!

Wait your telling me that the samadhi fire that incredible Op habiltity was never use again in season 4 (Anyway I really like your criticism had really solid arguments) PD: Are you gonna do a similar video with season 1 or season 2 ?

I would have put the focus on Mei though season three and how being the fourth ring effects her. Also do we have a release date for season five?

It is possible that an episode or two of development for her was scrapped against the creators will?

Episodes and seasons ae way too short. Love and adore the show and can't wait for 5th season

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God that ost fucking S L A P S !

Does anyone here know of any updates on when season 5 will be out?

I think during the s3 specials is where the story arc started to feel less.. good? Yk? I didn’t really like s4 for that exact reason and I’m really hoping s5 isn’t like that

Honestly, all I need to do is point to LMK Season 3, especially the Season 3 Special, to explain to people why I fell out of love with this show.

...guys did someone notice Mei wasn't wearing lipstick at 0:55

I love MO:MO😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤

Even when I watched season three I didn’t like the direction they took with the samadhi fire, it has too many plot holes and iffy explanations or me to fully be on board with how it was used.

I have a question Where do u watch lmk?

Hi BendoBricks, I'm making a video about why people should watch the Monkie Kid show and check out the rest of the theme, where to watch it, how to watch it, and even having fan works in it! I was curious if I am able to show your works in it to talk about how people really like the theme, I also understand the irony of asking that on this video specifically, but honestly all these are valid points and I'd mention that in the video too. I think itd be fun having reviews and analyses of the show in it, and to show jow beloved and yet unseen the show and theme in general is in the western part of the world! Its okay if you dont think its a good idea, and dont want to be part of the videos, but if you do that'd be lovely!!! Thank you anyhow you respond!

Season 5? What's that? Never heard of her

I honestly don’t think we’ll see macache anymore due to the voice actor being dead 😭

Who’s mei??

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My biggest gripe with the show is how there is ZERO representation of any group. There's no racial minorities, gays, transgenders, fats, queers, xens, and the list goes on. They never even asked a single person what their pronouns were. Made it unwatchable

Something i find annoying about season 3(/2) along with mei 2 was LBD, tbh. Her motivation was “the World is flawed so i wanna destroy it and make it perfect” which i just never understood because nothing is ever perfect and there has to be flaws somewhere. It feels like such a shallow and Generic motivation as well i’ve heard a thousand times before. + i just didnt lile her personality either, as it felt like she was just set up to be Dark Mysterious and Evil and in the end thats all she really became. It gave some good moments and gave good episodes, but its obviously never good to feel like the main and very serious villian is both dumb and extremely Generic. +Also we barely Got any episodes without her and so i just started getting really tired of her and watching LMK in general tbh. Season 3 just felt really Weak in general for me tbh. I dont really mind if anybody likes her and if you do, please do tell me why bc i really really wanna like season 3/2! And no i dont hate the entirety of season 3/2 or anything LBD is in. There was a lot of good Character arcs episodes and development, i just didnt like LBD.