I love that this film acknowledges that even though Cumberbatch’s character is appreciative and respectful of Soloman’s work and knowledge and is, aside from Pitt’s character later on, the “nicest” white man in the film, he’s still a fucking slaver owner.

"Your children will soon be forgotten" wow

That moment when you realize...Baron Mordo was a slave owned by Doctor Strange...and later Magneto.

"Your children will soon be forgotten" A parent would never forget their children.

Definitely not the kind of movie you watch again in a hurry... But so important and well made. Kudos to all who were involved.

Benedict Cumberbatch is one of the only actors that can LITERALLY CONVEY EXTREME SHAME IN HIMSELF WITHOUT ONE WORD.

Leaving in a different country, I never knew why the N word is so offensive, never did I tried to search for an answer, seeing this clip made me understood.

William Ford shows the in-between. Someone with the conscience to find the whole business of slavery disgusting and inhumane, but who does not have the courage to emancipate his subjects.

5:38 "I hope it brings us both much joy over the years..." That twist of what should've been a pleasant moment, turns into an un-wakable nightmare, when Ford said "years". Meaning he won't be returning to his family, as a freeman, at least for years...

This disgusting slave dealer made me burst when he calmly said to the mother:"I'll give you something to cry for". No superficially soft words were ever so despicably cruel.

Yeah sure. Who doesn't forget their kids after a happy meal?

How could You treat another human being worse then animal How disgusting Breaks my heart Makes my blood boil

I think one of the most fascinating things about this is Mrs Ford. She feels sorry for Eliza the way you’d feel sorry for a dog. “Oh, poor woman ☹️” Enough empathy to understand why she’s crying, but not enough to fully comprehend the gravity of her actions and the actions of the slave trade.

Hearing Barbados wants reparations from Cumberbatchs family cos of it's links to slavery make this movie even more insane

Sherlock, what are you doing in there?

Well this aged well....

The violin as in Sherlock 🎻❤️

“Your children will soon be forgotten” wow…

This scene makes me so sad and reminds me of what Frederick Douglass wrote in his autobiography: children were taken from their mothers without giving it a seond thought. They were just thought of as a "chattel", or goods, just like cows and sheep.

Muh 2 cents: It is very clear that Cumberbatch’s character represents the mythical “benevolent master” that southern revisionists idealize. While Fassbender’s was the reality.

2:33 it looks like he regretted it

Let me ask you this one time, what master do you serve?

Doctor Strange ancestor and Mordo in the alternate universe

he was a good person. But hes a big coward

Man Dr Strange Muitlverse of Madness is a lot stranger then I thought it would be

I know even Solomon himself praised Ford, because he was a kind man and that "under the circumstances"" he was good, and he wrote in his book that if all people at that time were like him, slavery would lose 50% of its negative image. I find this POV to be understandable to a degree, but still weird. Basically, Solomon's praising someone for taking full advantage of the injustices going on, but being nice about it. Ford didn't like that slaves were beaten and treated bad in the "shop" where he bought Solomon, he didn't like they were separating kids from the mom he was buying, but he did it anyway. He knew it was wrong, but he still wanted to own slaves for years and years and of course, he used them for hard manual labor, kept them in poor conditions, etc. I sometimes think people like Ford are morally even more questionable than someone like Epps (Michael Fassbender's character). Becuase Epps was openly despicable, he didn't sugercoat his desires to control and use slaves. Ford on the other hand acted like he was appalled by the slaves' treatment, he took the moral high ground, but he took advantage of the system anyway. So really, he wasn't doing anything to resolve the situation, to free the slaves, nothing. Ford was a major hypocrite and the movie IMO showed this rather nicely. I mean - there is no way owning another human being can be "nice". Even if the law allows you to do it, you taking advantage of the injustice and thinking "well, I at least treat them cordially and nicely unlike most people and everyone should too" is pointless. The entire fact you're even able to buy them, the entire law itself is inherently inhuman and wrong - there's no way to be nice about it. And saying "OK, I of course will go along with this totally ugly, not nice thing in the law, but I will be nice about it so it's easier on those who are subject to it". You're not helping anything like this, you just want to eat your cake and have it too. You want to be just as selfish like the rest, but you want to still feel how you're a nice human being better than everyone else. It's basically arrogance combined with hypocrisy.

At least he tried to save the woman's daughter 😔

Absolutely sickening. I still can't believe John Adams was a slave merchant!

Love me some comberbatch

Kinda hard to watch

Seeing this doesn’t bother me, but it’s like something in me screams out in great rage seeing history as it was.

3:59 If u listen closely u can hear the predator

At least he played a white man with feelings who didn't trample all over his slaves.

He was such a natural 😍

I am not a US citizen, but scenes like that remind me and should remind everyone which were the true colours of ”noble" southern knights that died in the Civil War. The toppling of statues dedicated to such people is just scratching the surface of undoing racism.

This was Mordo revenge that Rhino was selling him to Doctor Strange and selling him to Magneto

When he said “This will bring us both joy over the Years” he is basically telling him that just because he is being kind and friendly, does not mean that he is any different and will get free rides from him! Smh I hate how they treated slaves and this sure have never happened 🥺

The moment you realize Dr Strange and Mordu were in another movie together

John Adams sells slaves to Doctor Strange.

Just realized most of the main cast are now in Superhero movies

Ironically, this is what Cumberbatch would be today if slavery wasn't abolished as he is descended from slave owning family. For that reason, I'm quite surprised he didn't turn down the role of a slaveholder considering he's a direct descendent of slaveholder.

The amount of ignorance in these comments is absolutely disgusting. Racism is alive and kicking and it saddens me that we are looked at as non human or less than just because of the colour of our skin. Sham on all that discriminate

i like him too.. im a very fan of yours ben!!

Now hear me out… movies like this should be showed in history class. Movies that truly show how cruel certain historical events that a book or a PowerPoint could never show. Schindlers list is a great example too. You hear all about the holocaust but imagination is only half of it in my opinion.

2:31 I can tell how broken hearted he felt😭😢🥺

The fact that this actually happened not too long ago is scary to me! Pure evil

I cried a lot of tears during this movie...

And he was supposed to be the least cruel master? Geez!

i dont understand how humans can be that cruel

What did he mean the girl will bring him lots of profit, does it mean what I think it means

Ah so that's how it started. Doctor Strange and Baron Mordo! :D

Still crying after happy meal and good rest.

Benedict Cumberbatch ❤

Nice meal and good rest still did not make her cries stop.

I don’t know whether to feel pissed off or pleased at Ford. I’m pissed at him because he chose to be a slave owner, yet pleased with him because he treated the slaves as hard working employees as opposed to slaves.

Ford comes across as a good man or at the very least a man who tries his best to be good in an evil world but the line “I have a debt to be mindful of” shows he is just as deplorable as all the other slavers and equally guilty. This movie is so powerful I’m mostly speechless when discussing it other than the highest of praise in invoking emotion from the viewer. Masterpiece

“Benedict Cumberbatch himself has expressed contrition for his own family's links to slavery, suggesting it was the reason why he took the role of William Pitt the Younger in the film Amazing Grace which focused on the abolition of the trade.” - not the money then 🖕🏽

Not all slave owners were bad. There are several examples throughout history. The problem was that South was poor and they were not ready and scared of industrialization because they thought that they will become poor as machines are expensive. But still Pitt's and Ford's character was good.

Oh, you're separated with your children? Oh no! Poor you! Anyway, your children will soon be forgotten. So.... Get to work! And the girl who said that are supposedly the better of her "kind".

Benedict Cumberbatch's decision to take this role did not age well

favourite one

Goddamn cumberbatch is a great actor. He can seem very friendly and we'll mannered but then you remember that he is a slave owner and has ruined peoples life's truly a phenomenal actor

In the book he wrote nothing but nice things about Ford, the film kinda changed that a little both are really good tho and I understand the change from a cinematic perspective

My heart bleeding 😭😭😭

If William Ford would have let him stayed I know that plat would have probably been freed sooner and have got a better chance to get his letter sent up North

I met Benedict Cumberbatch, Paul Dano, and Steve McQueen

His family owned a plantation, talk about method acting

I'm lost for words😢

it always brings a smile to my face when a white man was being kind to a black man in that day and age

Ironic Paul Giamatti played a slave trader in both this movie and Planet of the Apes. He does an excellent job making you instantly hate him for his callous disregard for human life in both films.

Doesn't he show up in any more scenes?

Hello Sherlock !

That's how I feel people will react...

Selling people is just sick evil world

Strange is trying his best to save mordo cause dormammu would try to get him hahahaha

I think he was a reluctant villain. He did many things that were quite heinous even for his time: a) he could have not taken Eliza knowing that it would cause her this much grief. b) he knew Soloman was educated and likely he was telling the truth about being a free man but he didn't want to hear it c) He sold Soloman to Epps knowing what kind of slaveowner Epps was

How ironic he played a slave master

Dr strange caught in 4k.

are nice/decent slave owners common in that era?

Doctor strange how could u

Land of freedom. Where black people began to vote in 1968.

Is that John Adams selling mordo to Dr strange?

1:09 why is that such a meaty-sounding slap? It almost doesn't match the strength of the slap itself.

my god.

So brutal.

Young beast

When you pull children from their mothers you are truly lost.

Benedict is George McFly

American accent?

Is a real story all this drama its real happened,dont forget....

why on earth would he play this role knowing his family connection to slavery lol

OK this becoming a marvel convetion in the movie. Mordo, Magneto, Strange and the rhino? What`s next?

Multiverse of madness

Band all his movies..bring back Richard gear..

the heck, why is this age restricted?

"I'm a Pow..."

Makes my stomach churn

3:16 the nerveeee

why the violin though?

Strange has been messing with the multiverse for too long that Mordo is a slave and Rhino is a slave dealer. The Riddler is a racist bully, Magneto is a cruel master to Nakia.