Anatomy of a Transition

Anatomy of a Transition | with Schyler

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Күн бұрын

Sky speaks about the motivations behind transitioning, from "autogynephilia" to gender dysphoria.
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@schylerspace Ай бұрын

@BenjaminABoyce I just wanted to say a huge thank you for having me on your channel. Your thoughtful questions and genuine curiosity truly made the conversation feel enriching! I feel like I gained more than I gave from our discussion.Thanks again for creating such a welcoming and engaging space for these important conversations.

@BadxZoomer Ай бұрын

Can everyone quit being rude and disrespectful to the guests that Boyce has on? MAYBE even treat them like real people? I feel like this has been getting worse for a long time now. It is simply cruel to meet someone’s vulnerability with these nasty comments and it’s ultimately going to lead to less people wanting to share their stories for those who actually need to hear it AKA not you. Jeeeeeez.

@lancarlo3858 Ай бұрын

Every AGP gets raked in the comments, regardless of how interesting or respectful they are. As someone pointed out, this says more about the quality of the commenters than the interviewee.

@joce11 Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951Or you could stop watching? Just a thought.

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

Ladies, any grown-ass man who's willing to be publicly genderspecial doesn't need you to protect him from the negative feedback in KZfaq contents. If this kind of stuff is what you call hate, what word are you gonna use when there's some actual hate?

@BenjaminABoyce Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951 It’s an open forum, banning people for inconsiderate opinions will backfire

@BenjaminABoyce Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951 I honestly don’t see any “hate” in the comments, at this time.

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

"I had a California accent". Lol, call me crazy but I swear, the Cali accent became nationally feminine-coded, and Mid-Atlantic nationally masculine-coded, seems like almost exactly 20 yrs ago, and most ppl combine the two (with just a touch of the old regionalisms). Psycholinguistics solved. Nominates self for Nobel Prize *error 404 Nobel Prize not found*

@Sally-pn8dd Ай бұрын

There seems to be very little help for dysphoria apart from affirmation, it might be interesting to explore how dysphoria might have developed and why deciding to take on a role where he will be ridiculed was the best solution , it's almost as if feeling humiliated is part of the AGP.

@jovazquez6102 Ай бұрын

Humiliation is a part of AGP for some, but not for others. Most agps, myself included, just want to exist as the everyday people that we are. This is as serious to us as serious gets, and if we don't pass, we get humiliated. If we get outed, we're humiliated. Frankly humiliation just makes me sad and paranoid, not horny lol. That's why a lot of us strive toward passing. It's a sort of place to sit down, take a breath, and finally just live life.

@lexilang5011 Ай бұрын

Schyler, thank you for this interview. And Benjamin Boyce, too. I think you’re great. Honest and smart. That being said, you present as male, honey. People know. Women know. Some might lie to you and placate you, but people can tell. I hope you find acceptance. You can be whoever you want to be. You are beautiful. Thank you for sharing your story. ❤

@allyy210 Ай бұрын

Schyler, thank you for your honesty amd youbare clearly self reflecting and intelligent. I still w9sh and pray ypu fond peace with who you are though, with who you were born as. It must be a difficult journey and i see you genuinely seek answers, but i still pray yu find peace one day with yourself.

@devin_3875 Ай бұрын

Great interview, thank you.

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

Some of this dovetails with the Philosophy Babble episode I just watched with Iain McGilchrist and Mark Solms.

@writofmandamus Ай бұрын

Wow! What a great interview, feels like her mindset and past experiences mimics largely of mine, definitely served as a good voice for me 🙏

@Carbonatedjello Ай бұрын

I'm getting more of an impression of repressed homosexuality from Skye rather than AGP...

@StormBringer5 Ай бұрын

He straight up talks about pleasuring himself to fantasies of being a woman. That is what it means to be AGP.

@StormBringer5 Ай бұрын

He mentioned at 44-45 mins in he… “pleased himself” to the idea of being a woman.

@kellymarieapplebee Ай бұрын

@@StormBringer5 I'm not sure what your response is implying? What I will say is that him pleasing himself to the idea of being a woman does not negate repressed homosexuality, like I said I' unsure what point you're making and would love to hear back from you and your take!

@StormBringer5 Ай бұрын

@@kellymarieapplebee are you familiar with Blanchard’s typogology? AGP literally means “love of oneself as a woman”, and Blanchard’s basic, go-to example is “pleasing yourself” imaging that you are a woman. This is the most straightforward example of AGP.

@Gingerblaze 24 күн бұрын

@@StormBringer5 there is overlap in Blanchards categories with approximately 18 -20% of HSTS also reporting AGP and AGP who are not exclusively hetero-sexual but prefer other trans identifying males

@allyy210 Ай бұрын

Oh dear, after listening to all of this. I still think you're trying to convince yourself and everyone else that this is NORMAL and that it is it good and expansive. I am sure the struggles you felt as a male were real, but it still sounds as though you want the best of both worlds. We all have to settle for what we are born with and lead how to deal with that. You want men, you want women, you want to be male, you want to be female, you want to renal terms to suit yourself, you want a child so YOU can grow bit what about the child?? Do you you ever think about what this will do to a child? I'm sorry, I still think the best way through this is self acceptance of who you are and as the rest of is, struggle with a bit of suffering and self sacrifice. I wish all the best and I wish you Truth. I have sent this in love, but I still think you need to work THROUGH ypur narcissim and homosexuality .❤

@helenablavatsky9136 Ай бұрын

Damn, the chat was like Fight Club.

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

you just broke the first rule of chat fight club!

@dunkel.760 Ай бұрын

Very Interesting interview. Never hear any men with gender identity disorder (GID) expressing this way. I have the feeling Schyler is gay and was easier this way to accept his sexuality, and his problem with testosterone is that the libido is higher, so the struggle is bigger against your sex interest, if you come from a very religious background where particularly homosexuality is harder to accept. But what do I know... that's my personal opinion. Also, to be clear, not every person with gender identity disorder (GID) has autogynephilia. I think there are many different cases that can cause people to experience GID.

@Emperess_Emira Ай бұрын

Yessss it is all about taking time

@Baron_Doom Ай бұрын

If you're making the drastic decision to live this kind of alternate lifestyle, bringing children into it would be a huge mistake.

@Emperess_Emira Ай бұрын

Ummm no if someone is stable and happy in there transition able to financially support then no reason why they shouldn’t be allowed to have kids.

@Gingerblaze Ай бұрын

@@Emperess_Emira perhaps you would feel differently if you heard from children who had a trans parent and the way it impacted them?

@Emperess_Emira Ай бұрын

@@Gingerblaze so are you trying to say any trans person is completely barred from having kids? All kids have parents that have issues and impact them in one way or another. For better or worse parents try to do the best they can to raise the children but not everything is always perfect. That’s just life. I think we need to separate the stories of those who have parents transitioning now while raising them in comparison to completing their transition before ever having them. The experience of both children will be different.

@Matt24002 Ай бұрын

I think it's fair to say no one has any idea what will happen in the long term.

@anapontopina86 Ай бұрын

@@Matt24002😂

@joane24 Ай бұрын

It's not about _using_ of the word (agp) that is to shame. It's simply that what is referred to by that word, the signified, is, at its core, something to be ashamed about. It used to simply called deviance and looked as such. If anything, employing the word agp aided in somewhat 'normalizing' as a form of sexuality.

@shalomaleichem7402 Ай бұрын

It's not about using of the word (sodomite) that is to shame. It's simply that what is referred to by that word, the signified, is, at its core, something to be ashamed about. It used to simply called deviance and looked as such. If anything, employing the word sodomite aided in somewhat 'normalizing' as a form of sexuality.

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

Lots of interesting social and psychological dimensions mentioned in this one.

@morgondew1420 Ай бұрын

Good interview, she gives an insightful account of the trans experience.

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

I've improved upon the Blanchardian typology: _There is one type of trans, characterized by intrusive thoughts about one's sex, with or without erotic fixations or various elaborated culture-bound syndromes adopted to explain the intrusive thoughts._

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

Feel free to forget AGP, AAP, and GAMP, this works without them for both sexes and explains basically every known genderspecial subtype.

@no_onein2024 Ай бұрын

The interviewer is a VERY handsome man!!!! 😘

@BenjaminABoyce Ай бұрын

my wife agrees!

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951no two women look, act, or talk alike though. If I do something the same way my mother does, I'm acting like a (specific) woman. Am I a woman when I act like my mother?

@miroirs-jumeaux Ай бұрын

27:31 uh-oh, I did this too. I would pace and fantasize, usually not out loud. So did my spectrumy lesbian friend in high school.

@mariepicard8385 Ай бұрын

Every autistic person I know has done this.

@Rongez Ай бұрын

it's pretty normal behavior

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

12 cats, I see you've accepted the Benjamin challenge. "Herding cats, never gonna work bruh". Benjamin: "hold my beer, indefinitely".

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

Identity crisis, euphoria my ass!!!

@realMaverickBuckley Ай бұрын

Im old school, could someone tell me if Schyler is a male or female? Im confused.

@anapontopina86 Ай бұрын

Sky is biological male who medically transitioned and now lives as a trans woman, meaning that socially the perception is of a female

@chaucerianfraud6767 Ай бұрын

Its a man.

@Engrave.Danger Ай бұрын

Autogynephile

@theway5563 Ай бұрын

He could be an autogynophelia type man. It is a fetish like transvestite. They fall in love with themself.

@soulfuzz368 Ай бұрын

@@anapontopina86this is definitely debatable. Most people would still say it’s a man imo. Especially if they are agp

@trudiejensen7682 Ай бұрын

Very interesting and positive from Schyler. Now she's back with the Christians I'm wondering what the reactions are from them. I doubt they'd appreciate the female-female marriage or the male trans-female either.

@AutisticVaxtard Ай бұрын

Joe Biden is supposed to be Christian and he showers with his daughter

@sorrowinchrist3387 Ай бұрын

It be good for her to hear out Dr Jordan and if she a Christian she should listen to Dr brown.

@fashionforwardfellow Ай бұрын

I think I'm even more confused now.

@danolsonrightnow 29 күн бұрын

Are you less likely to judge someone you don’t know?

@fashionforwardfellow 29 күн бұрын

@@danolsonrightnow probably why?

@danolsonrightnow 28 күн бұрын

@@fashionforwardfellow confusion is fine, as long as it doesn’t breed contempt for the mere fact, imo.

@juliecleveland2567 Ай бұрын

"I told my parents on Easter night of 2018 that I thought I was transgender” ... “I slept the best I'd ever slept that night” Schyler, ask your parents how long it was before they slept through the night? Ask your 3 younger brothers, too.

@Ruby_Spacek Ай бұрын

I would sleep better knowing my child felt safe enough to share something like that with me, there are stressors that go along with any condition.

@danolsonrightnow 29 күн бұрын

If your parents aren’t accepting your gender dysphoria in the meanwhile and dismissing your protestations as a phase, their sleep is not your problem. Respect engages with issues as they arise, not dismissing them until they bubble over.

@Knuck_Knucks Ай бұрын

12 cats? 12 ?! That's shocking . 🐿

@mrlawilliamsukwarmachine4904 Ай бұрын

I’m just a few seconds in, and yes…I did think it was gonna be about a trans cat 🤦‍♀️

@KimF1 Ай бұрын

Another great video. Transgender is real, but not at the current rate. It's mostly girls, and I understand it, since I had always wished I'd have been born a boy. Unfortunately, you cannot really change genders.

@joce11 Ай бұрын

You can't change biological sex. Sad people are being missed to believe they can.

@HB-iq6bl Ай бұрын

Must have a tolerant wife.

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

Open inquiry is medicine, that's great.

@sorrowinchrist3387 Ай бұрын

Sacha Bailey is a detransitioner a very good story to listen too.

@Jules-Is-a-Guy Ай бұрын

Sounds like saying, we should be more ok with trans. If adults want to dress a certain way or get elective surgeries, I don't particularly think that's my business, for the most part. But beyond laws or harsh stigmas, if we're talking abt general NON-COERCIVE normative/cultural expectations, what abt the whole "erasing gayness" thing? It seems more reasonable to me for most ppl to assume as a default, that culture should just be sufficiently comfortable with "gayness" (I thought we were, but I don't even know now) and treat most trans ppl (especially young) as probably just needing to become more comfortable with being gay ppl in their 'original bodies' in the social sphere, rather than altering themselves, unless some of them occasionally remain convinced they need to go pay money in their 20's for some surgery so they don't spaz-out.

@Gingerblaze Ай бұрын

Ok but aproximately 80% of trans identifying males are not gay.

@AutisticVaxtard Ай бұрын

You cray cray

@judeesee894 Ай бұрын

What’s wrong with his cheeks? Why are they so red? Rash?

@joane24 Ай бұрын

Or simply too much blush/incorrectly applied.

@Alaric11 Ай бұрын

he has a filter applied.

@shalomaleichem7402 Ай бұрын

@@Alaric11 That's not a filter, but simply tumblr make up.

@lolalaise4530 Ай бұрын

She seems cool but something about a transwomen raising kids just for those kids to grow up and realise that one of their moms is not only a man but their biological father who provided absolutely no fatherly role.. big oof…

@joce11 Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951I'm gay. No research does not support what you suggest. Children deserve a mother and father wherever possible. That's not to say gays dont make good parents of course they do but to suggest a child in general does better if raised by gay parents as opposed to being raised by a mother and a father is ridiculous.

@racs9606 Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951I smell bs. The default argument .. 'there are studies.. ' whenever anyone wants to make a point these days. Use your own common sense.

@jovazquez6102 Ай бұрын

@@racs9606 Common sense is a very unreliable guide when it comes to reality.

@AleksandreEyjolfsen Ай бұрын

Nothing to worry about. Kids having their emotional needs met is more important than being indoctrinated into a gender role :)

@kennysboat4432 27 күн бұрын

@@AleksandreEyjolfsenHaving a gender role is important. It provides a structure for the physical aspects of biological sex (male and female). The lack thereof contributes to the problems we are experiencing today with gender and sexuality.

@Iamjamessmith1 Ай бұрын

It's important to realize too that while we're serving others and learning to serve others and learning to craft our craft around others.... It leads to money and business and service business and capitalism.

@SpocksBro Ай бұрын

Puddycats in the jungle and on the hunt.

@joane24 Ай бұрын

Halfway in, and one of the most boring episodes so far. So much pseudo-theoretizing and rationalisations and just rambling about God knows what. Came here hear their actual story, not the random pseudo-philosophical opinions. If I'd want to make sense of it on a philosophical/theological level, I'd turn to actual scholars or pastors, here I just want to hear the story, concrete, not philosophizing justifications.

@AleksandreEyjolfsen Ай бұрын

I disagree

@281992pdr Ай бұрын

When you refer to your guest as "they" you are actually talking about one person. Why cave in to this bs?

@BenjaminABoyce Ай бұрын

@281992pdr isn’t a human name, yet you’ve adopted the language of your environment. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@281992pdr Ай бұрын

@@BenjaminABoyce Wrong. We have grammar so that children learning to speak, and also other language learners, will both be able to communicate clearly and so that they will not be confused by others using incorrect grammar (inadvertantly or purposely). The pronoun bs is another of the linguistic contortions of transworld. It is pernicious propaganda. As has been said before, and trans ideologues have latched onto: "Change the word/s, change the world". I'm done here.

@281992pdr Ай бұрын

@@BenjaminABoyce No. We have grammar so that children learning to speak and be literate and others learning a new language will be able to communicate clearly, not confuse others and be able to pick up when someone else is speaking, either deliberately or inadvertently, in a confusing manner. Trans ideologues love the propaganda as they have latched onto: "Change the word/s, change the world". The linguistic contortions of transism have seduced many.

@rijntje73 Ай бұрын

Your reply shows up just fine! 👌🏼

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

#38👍💨

@johndutchman Ай бұрын

Thanks for banning my comments . you're the best.

@Engrave.Danger 29 күн бұрын

@@johndutchman that's probably Google's AI censor. There are certain words and phrases that get them dissolved without notice.

@anapontopina86 Ай бұрын

Great guest! Sky's story is important to humanise and destigmatize trans experience, because they are so eloquent, respectful and balanced. I don't understand why they identify as AGP... they strike me as the homo/bisexual type according to Blanchard. I wish the best for the cool and lovely couple, if parenthood is on the stars it will happen.

@anapontopina86 Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951ok, got it. I listened again to Sky's explanation and I understand now. I don't know if there is something "wrong". I just heard from some stories about the risk of becoming a problem in partnering with other person or the risk of becoming an obsessive/compulsive sort of addiction. If there's the possibility of integrating that in life and being happy, good 👌

@oceanview211-nh6ri Ай бұрын

This is a good example of why blanchard's typology is overly rigid and obsessively categorizing by sexual orientation instead of just looking at the actual motivation for transition is dumb.

@aprilrae6551 Ай бұрын

If they were balanced, they would accept themselves, without hormones and plastic surgeries.

@fishsteak3246 Ай бұрын

Both gay and straight TIMs are AGPs. They both fetishise the idea of being the "woman" in a relationship/in bed.

@anapontopina86 Ай бұрын

@@oceanview211-nh6ri in Sky's case it is clearly not only sexual because they had the fantasy of being a girl before puberty.

@bepitan Ай бұрын

shes not really agp because agp is being so in love with women that you want to be that which you are attracted to the most .. im not getting that message here at all.

@fabbie3862 Ай бұрын

It’s not uncommon for AGP’s to have pseudo bisexuality. (Meta attraction). There are a fair few TW who claim to be attracted to men. Most will be AGP’s.

@bepitan Ай бұрын

@@fabbie3862 ..but that all comes after being strongly attracted to women, the reason agps go with men is because that is what women would do, ..the man is not the target, he is like any other item of womens clothing etc that needs to be worn or used. Agp are not homosexual, they are in fact strongly hetro so much so that they want to be the thing they desire in every way even if it means going with men. Perhaps as a result of this they could become bisexual in due course but it doesn't suddenly happen without starting off as hetro first.

@fabbie3862 Ай бұрын

@@bepitan I’m aware of this, hence why it’s called “pseudo” bisexuality. I don’t disagree with you. I’m trying to point out that some people think certain AGP’s are homosexual because they “claim” to be attracted to males, but they’re not, they are heterosexual with “pseudo” bisexuality. A lot of people mistake some AGP’s as being HSTS.

@StormBringer5 Ай бұрын

He straight up says he pleasured himself to fantasies of being a woman. That is what it means to be AGP.

@bepitan Ай бұрын

@@fabbie3862 .ah ok ..sorry i got the wrong end of the stick.

@sarahlovesdonuts9601 Ай бұрын

Me, me, me…🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

@shalomaleichem7402 Ай бұрын

How curious that a person is talking about themselves if the fucking interview is about that person's experience.

@Rongez Ай бұрын

that's the topic

@danolsonrightnow 29 күн бұрын

Yeah… when I read a biography, I want to learn more about the editor, ya know?

@SK-ut6tw Ай бұрын

Is that a bullet hole on his chest?

@SK-ut6tw Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951 probably from taking the wrong hormones for his body.

@AutisticVaxtard Ай бұрын

Vaccine adverse effect

@OperativeKANE Ай бұрын

@Darkstar951*He

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

Title #9🖕💨

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

Shes cute for a He/She☺️💨

@chaucerianfraud6767 Ай бұрын

Hard pass.

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

@@chaucerianfraud6767 Oh come on, Have a sense of adventure!!!👌💦

@DHead5150 Ай бұрын

@@chaucerianfraud6767 67 Was a fine vintage, Now try some adrogyne 69. ☺️💨

@chaucerianfraud6767 Ай бұрын

@@DHead5150 I am not into men. No amount of adventure will make someone gay.

@chaucerianfraud6767 Ай бұрын

@@DHead5150 No. I am not gay.

@NinjaKittyBonks Ай бұрын

Sky had me at cat mommy 🥰

@helenablavatsky9136 Ай бұрын

Awwww.

@chaucerianfraud6767 Ай бұрын

👎

@NinjaKittyBonks Ай бұрын

@@chaucerianfraud6767 😾

@NinjaKittyBonks Ай бұрын

@@helenablavatsky9136 💜[you and I will just ignore those who are "kittyphobic" in this thread 😸]

@helenablavatsky9136 Ай бұрын

@@NinjaKittyBonks I still can't see Fraud. I think I like it better that way.