How To Make an R410A Flare for a Mini Split AC Unit Installation

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The only difference between a standard flare and an R410A flare is that the R410A flare needs a slightly wider/longer flare surface. You can do this easily using a standard flaring tool by simply extending the pipe about 1/16th of an inch further through the flare.
Making a high quality flare on copper tubing is absolutely ESSENTIAL when making flare connections for refrigeration circuits. In this video I guide you through that process and also show you a few tips and tricks for how to prepare the pipe by removing the burrs and reaming out the inside of the pipe after cutting it. We also take a look at a very low quality factory flare as a comparison to the new flare that we create.
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@BenjaminSahlstrom 2 жыл бұрын

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@jollyscaria1922 9 ай бұрын

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@EcoNeato 8 ай бұрын

There is also a product even better - FlareSeal - not rubber and not Nylog, but is pricey.

@trainhardsweat1571 7 ай бұрын

Mate why are u so perfect I’d love to see your quality of work 🤣

@ellenhal1537 10 ай бұрын

Purchased: August 2023 - still works GREAT!I kzfaq.infoUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install. This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment. I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!

@dustinworrick9173 3 жыл бұрын

I'm a KZfaq junkie, this camera angles, resolution, lighting, magnification, is spot on! 👍

@mikefixac 3 жыл бұрын

I am too Dustin. Can't get over the quality of many videos. Sometimes I enjoy watching just to see the sophistication of the video itself. Putting the sound, the different camera shoots, editing, etc, kudos to successful KZfaqrs.

@michaelrice500 4 жыл бұрын

Professional HVAC guy has "egregious" in his vocabulary, has invested in quality tools, and reads the instructions. Hack says "teflon tape will fix this flair good 'nuff!", spells flare wrong, overtightens it and doesn't bother with a vacuum pump. Then gives a bad review of the equipment he bought online because it failed. Good skills and experience will always win. Also, excellent video skills; good job getting the focus correct and showing the cone rolling the flare through the gap.

@NoorRefrigerationsystem 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@FernandoSilva-zd2vl 4 жыл бұрын

Well said Mark!

@brentc.6690 4 жыл бұрын

When using an eccentric flaring tool, it is important to first read the instructions. The required extension varies per manufacturer. For example, I own a Yellow Jacket eccentric flaring tool (Model 60295). The instructions specify a 1 mm extension, which is less than 1/16 of an inch. In contrast, your video instructs a 1/16" to 1/8" extension. If I used that length, I would risk splitting the copper. Also, as others have noted, you should put a drop of refrigerant oil (e.g., Nylog Blue) on the cone tip before flaring. The refrigerant oil acts as a lubricant and reduces the torque needed to make a flare. It also helps to extend the life of the tool.

@puccha10 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the valuable insight...

@ianicus123 2 жыл бұрын

@@puccha10 it's pretty valuable to be honest.

@randygreen007 2 жыл бұрын

As a newbie I have watched several of these videos trying to learn how to flare copper piping. After several attempts and several failures I finally watched this video and within five minutes was making perfect flares. Thanks for the help! Sub’d

@quintend1465 2 жыл бұрын

Quick tip , the notch in the rollers on the copper cutter is to put the flare into and cut off just about 1/4 inch to remove just he flare. Good to know if you ever leave a nut off and don’t have a lot of pipe to work with

@BenjaminSahlstrom 8 ай бұрын

Sweet!

@nnnnnnnnnick5557 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. Another really important tool I started using is a flare gauge. To make sure they are perfect every time. Helps a ton.

@jenniferwhitewolf3784 4 жыл бұрын

That eccentric flare is fantastic. Back in the day when the family had an automotive custom business, we did a lot of steel brake lines.. All we had was the straight push cone flare tool. This is SO much better.

@NoorRefrigerationsystem 4 жыл бұрын

Thank

@dansw0rkshop Жыл бұрын

Brake lines are supposed to be double flared nowadays. Not sure about longer ago.

@merllhagard6799 8 ай бұрын

Holy shit, I thought it was weird that you're using high end electricians needles then I come to find out, you're that electrician guy I used to watch. Great content, dude! 👍💪

@BenjaminSahlstrom 8 ай бұрын

Hahaha that's awesome!!!

@KpxUrz5745 Жыл бұрын

Really excellent video, perfectly demonstrating the difference between a good flare and a bad one. This is very helpful.

@carloslozano8693 3 жыл бұрын

This was another excellent video tutorial that you have presented. I’m getting ready to order the R410A and pipe cutter.

@joshuaricks7730 3 жыл бұрын

Use a nickel to set the depth of the pipe before flaring.

@mikemitchell7505 9 күн бұрын

4 years later still helping people! Thanks!

@keithjohnson3883 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty good video Benjamin. As a retired Commercial HVAC owner. I have struggled with flares for many years, till I discovered Rigid makes a double flare tool set. Ridgid 33927 Specifications: • Model No.: 345/150DL • Size: No. 345 w/No. 150 Tubing Cutter and case kit (Rather expensive but worth it) Believe me when I tell you when you make double flares, you'll never go back to the old tools again. It forms the tubing inward first with a small button, you remove the button then use the sets flaring tool. I never had a leak after that, and it is good for thousands of LBS Johnson Refrigeration / Happy Retired.

@marcoeis6598 Жыл бұрын

Is it safe to use double flares on mini split units ? I assume all it does is make the flare itself thicker , correct ?

@keithjohnson3883 Жыл бұрын

@@marcoeis6598 When I use a double flare, I always use the heavier duty flare nuts. You could actually. tighten down enough to actually feel The copper under. the double flare compress and make a Leak proof 100% Seal. With a standard flare. you'll always be afraid to over tighten. and split the copper..

@michaeljablonsmi4686 4 жыл бұрын

I did some copper flaring years ago, on a project. What a pain. I now see what I was doing wrong. I did finally get it, but not without many tries. Thanks

@OriginalJetForMe Жыл бұрын

Thank for the very detailed instructions on how to do this, and the very clear views of the process.

@jpabmx 3 жыл бұрын

Ben, you're the man, thank you for all these super helpful videos! 👍

@craftyskillideas228 3 жыл бұрын

Wow good job u have done it with doing perfect flare I like and appreciate your job welldone

@crusinscamp 2 жыл бұрын

Good video. I've always had trouble deburring the tube. I like the way you raised the burr with needle nose first and then cut off the burr. I'll keep that in mind for next time I'm flaring a line.

@tigger126 2 жыл бұрын

Wow. Perfect flare AND remembered to put the nut on first!!

@williamdwyer3302 3 жыл бұрын

as i was taught 40 yrs ago and still teach.stick pipe thru block the thickness of a nickle,slithly more .highly recommend tork style blocks.too many tough guys wrecking flares.

@douglashughes2331 4 жыл бұрын

Well done. I have made flares in the past and did not think of using the needle nose or the knife. Learned from you, thanks.

@amytaylor1054 Ай бұрын

Hello there , how are you doing today?God bless you!!❤

@MichaelDillin 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you I think I'll be making my own flares on my line set 👍😁

@sofjanmustopoh7232 10 ай бұрын

One of the best flaring tutorial 👍

@aaron74 4 жыл бұрын

How many times have you finished making the flare and just as you're about to install the line you realize you forgot to slip the nut on first? 😆

@BenjaminSahlstrom 4 жыл бұрын

Never. ;)

@ReubenSahlstrom 4 жыл бұрын

😂 I have done that before. It's a humbling experience. Only seems to happen if someone is watching!

@aaron74 4 жыл бұрын

@@ReubenSahlstrom Well if someone's watching then it's guaranteed to happen. Ha ha

@inoahmann7542 4 жыл бұрын

Almost every time, lol

@lwangajohn3257 4 жыл бұрын

Happens to everyone once in a while 😂😂

@bryanhill894 3 жыл бұрын

Needle noes trick worked great! Thanks

@sabunome Ай бұрын

I recently installed a mini split, but couldn't manage to get decent flares using a difficult to use cheap flare set recommended in the video I was following. Thank you so much for making this excellent guide and highlighting the costly but far more effective pro tools. This would have saved me time and money in the long run.

@robertrlkatz6890 3 жыл бұрын

It is always recommended to use nylog or to use the same oil that is used in the system on the cone of the tool, it will make a far smoother flare and NO it will not hurt the system if a tiny bit gets inside because it is the same as what is in the system already.

@youtubier2839 3 жыл бұрын

some new machines you are not supposed to expose the oil to air at all!!

@brianmahoney154 2 жыл бұрын

@@youtubier2839 if you are installing refrigeration equipment such as a mini split then use nylog on the face of the flare.

@warrensteel9954 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful job~

@tebbink Жыл бұрын

This type of Flaring tool is indeed the best result. But many of us use less expensive equipment. Of course it takes a little struggle with simple tools

@FuzzyFCP 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are superb. I like how you used, "egregious" in this one. Great word!

@MrSprintcat 3 жыл бұрын

Save some time and buy the spin tool. It works awesome. Thanks for the video

@Paxmax 3 жыл бұрын

AaaaaaAAAH! geez! that "factory standard" flare makes my skin crawl. My split machine came with a set of tubes with a similar finish. I bought a set of tools and practised on copper tubing until I much perfected* it, then I proceeded to assemble my AC unit. After a few years of the split being in use I had an AC professional take a look at it, they did a leak sniff for insurance reasons, he found no fault except some astethic choices I made. AFAIK 14 years later it was still working. *Perfected = the tool set was considerably cheaper than yours; lacked the torque-stop and eccenter. The tube clamping part of device always left a small pinch mark on tube above the flare. The pinch mark did not interfere with the nut so it did not matter much.

@renaldoali4284 3 жыл бұрын

Wow amazing.....love the flairing tool

@rockinghorselivestock2491 10 ай бұрын

Excellent craftsmanship.😊

@mohamedsh4093 4 жыл бұрын

Professional work I like your job 👍

@alexgust7079 Ай бұрын

Others have mentioned already but it bears repeating. Great camera work. Really easy to see what your describing.

@everythingchannel4911 3 жыл бұрын

Your work is very good thank you so much

@powerpanelteam8785 2 жыл бұрын

Very good job, thanks for the input

@TheCoffeeMaker32 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent work.

@farmerdave7965 3 жыл бұрын

If you put refrigeration oil on the tubing end while flaring, it comes out really smooth.

@richardwolske2015 3 ай бұрын

This video is perfect, thank you 👍

@leonidasdrogkaris7304 Жыл бұрын

Nice work!! Thank you very much for sharing!

@cog1140 Жыл бұрын

Refrigeration flares are 39 degrees, automotive flares are 45 degrees.

@joshuaweller9527 3 жыл бұрын

Well Done. Thanks for the info.

@FerdausAlAmin 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, and great close shots

@davidt8438 Жыл бұрын

Excellent tutorial my friend.

@DanielinLaTuna 2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done. You don't mention the shoe, but we can see it makes a convenient place to place the tool. Thanks for sharing

@DannyMJR 9 ай бұрын

I really appreciate your video, it was just prefect no bs.

@hackfreehvac 2 жыл бұрын

Looks like the same cheap Amazon concentric flare kit that I bought. It does work.

@Eddy63 4 жыл бұрын

What a difference a good and correct tool makes ... Good vid Benji ...

@Dr.Wiryajati 3 жыл бұрын

Nice Video , nice audio, best explaination... good luck

@MohammedAliJaweed 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Job...Congrats.

@indrapclm994 3 жыл бұрын

Nice flaring .. good job 👍

@Alienspecies635 2 жыл бұрын

The Navac gun that makes flares is the absolute best!!!

@papabapyro 4 ай бұрын

Thank you great video. Cheers

@randallchittenden6825 4 жыл бұрын

Great job.

@ricardocastaneda8276 3 жыл бұрын

I think you put the same nut on the new flare... Lol!!! Great video,,, Very informative...

@ch3no2killz 4 жыл бұрын

If you put a "tiny" dab of anti seize on the cone it will come out looking like a mirror and with much less effort, a real big help when doing SS!

@michaelrice500 4 жыл бұрын

Use refrigeration oil. Good idea, but anti seize could contaminate the system. Maybe. 👍

@ch3no2killz 4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelrice500 Just clean well when done.

@doddgarger6806 4 жыл бұрын

Nylog

@ulisescruz157 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelrice500 What type of oil do you recommend?

@khawajaanjumsaeed6472 3 жыл бұрын

Good information sir thanks 👍💖

@tonyvolbeda952 4 жыл бұрын

nice video.. have done literally thousands of flares. deburring advisable in putting a cut copper end into a swedged end to solder, but on flare the process of flaring makes that redundant, at the most, smooth the edge of the finished flare. Use a little oil on the flareing tool, the lubricating makes it easier to turn in especially on larger diameters. Definitely inspect "seat" into flare nut. Before you join to the male end, put a little mineral oil on the male end. It, again, will help to "spin" it in and creates a liquid lock, some what like pipe thread dope.

@ulisescruz157 3 жыл бұрын

What type of oil do you recommend?

@tonyvolbeda952 3 жыл бұрын

@@ulisescruz157 carry a boottle zoom oil ( mineral oil) just a drop or two

@rodgraff1782 Жыл бұрын

The jury is still out on using oil or not. With the tool he used, it really isn’t necessary. Where you should use the oil is on the back of the flare, then the nut won’t twist the line as you are tightening.

@ericmueller8957 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you. Quality counts. ))

@robertdoubt5864 3 жыл бұрын

Nice flare. The flare nut on the 410a is not only stronger but the threads match up to the unit it came off of.

@jeffpeterson1331 2 жыл бұрын

The threads are the threads. It's not like the factory is custom matching them.

@deaftodd 2 жыл бұрын

I have to say you have done an excellent job! Personally, I always felt uncomfortable with flare fittings because all of those scratches can pose any risk.

@dustinworrick9173 3 жыл бұрын

Very well done video

@bartpiper8957 Жыл бұрын

I have made several dozen flares on copper, steel, and occasionally aluminum tubing, and I never trust a single flare. A double flare is double the thickness thus it is much less prone to cracking as is common with single flares, especially if disassembled and reassembled.

@usahabro266 3 жыл бұрын

Thank so much for tutorial sir

@NoorRefrigerationsystem 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much sir

@honestman276 8 ай бұрын

Thanks from Bangladesh.

@NoorRefrigerationsystem 4 жыл бұрын

I love this channel

@jimmyjackson9090HVAC 4 жыл бұрын

Nice flare but Some flaring tools want less pipe coming out of the top of the tool and some have a Little stopper that stops the pipe at the right spot for that brand of tool.

@mymorristribe 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks. Fantastic camera work really showed how to get this done perfectly. I didn't know about that eccentric flaring tool! Now, I do. Nice work.

@johnswan9123 Жыл бұрын

Great camera work.

@The_Joker_ Жыл бұрын

I love this attention to detail. Nobody ever sees these things. Bravo sir. 🫡

@JayBirde 3 жыл бұрын

Good job on this video Benjamin! You have great patience and that is truly what makes a good service tech. You absolutely used the right tools and techniques for flaring. If I could just add to what you mentioned in the video without sounding like a know-it-all, R-410a flares are at a 45 degree angle, not necessarily any bigger than a standard flare (37 degrees). It's the angle that is important to prevent leaks. When I first started installing mini splits, there were no classes available and we had nothing but problems with leaks. We were using standard flare blocks, not knowing that these required a different flare. When Mitsubishi finally offered some training, our problems became apparent, and through the use of the correct flaring tool and a torque wrench, most of our problems went away overnight! Anyways, great job!

@pipingcalifornia3476 4 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is... I have to do this tomorrow for the first time so... thanks for the help!

@alans9806 3 жыл бұрын

Great clarity and detail. Could you do one on replacing windscreen wiper inserts?

@Papasquatch73 3 жыл бұрын

I love my spin flares as much as my spin swagger

@MEP.ENGINEERING.WORKS92 Жыл бұрын

Good work friend

@dylan.indonusa 3 жыл бұрын

great video...brother..,thanks for sharing ! .

@125TSTS 2 жыл бұрын

Great tips...thanks

@dgb5820 Жыл бұрын

That’s a perfect flare

@glennbrooks9933 9 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for your very informative video, I'm in the middle of doing my gas stove in my kitchen but was very concerned about my flare on 5/8 copper tubing it was very hard to achieve a flare let alone a non scratchy flare I believe I need a different flaring tool .

@NoorRefrigerationsystem 4 жыл бұрын

Good job

@Pacca33 3 жыл бұрын

I saw few issues. 1st - u need to take Daikin installation guide and check sizes of tubes between rail and eccentric head. 1/4 - 0.8 mm, 3/8 - 1mm. 2nd issue - when u tight the flaring tool pull back screw on 90 degrees, much easier to flare and eccentric screw will live more than 2 years.

@pietypereira8239 3 жыл бұрын

Good knowledge. Thanks a lot.

@BenjaminSahlstrom 3 жыл бұрын

Glad that it was useful!

@TheMalbroughs 10 ай бұрын

Great video!!!

@faisalmaqbool6107 3 жыл бұрын

Amazing!

@explor794 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video thank you so much

@CooperandHunterusa 4 жыл бұрын

Great video - very thorough explanation for something that a lot of people often don't give enough attention to!

@ekonyeonose1088 3 жыл бұрын

I really need to get this flairing tools

@alexandervadeem2793 Жыл бұрын

good job!

@julmanjumanaustralia4216 2 жыл бұрын

good job

@cphank151 2 жыл бұрын

Benjamin Sahlstrom Have you considered double flairing. It's slightly more complex but IMHO is much better. There are several videos about it on KZfaq. Once I tried it, I never went back to single flaired fuel lines.