Voigtlander 28mm f/1.5 vs Thypoch 28mm f/1.4

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Benj Haisch

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2 ай бұрын

28mm has become one of my absolute favorite focal lengths and I’ve been waiting for a fast aperture version for Leica to compete with their 28mm Summilux. With Voigtlander and Thypoch both releasing versions at f/1.5 and f/1.4 I’ll compare them and see how well they perform and feel.
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@GastonShutters
@GastonShutters 2 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I’ve been using the Voigtlander for a couple of months and it has replaced my Summicron for travel. I have the aluminum version and it is so light and performs so good for night street and events.
@OrangeBrick8
@OrangeBrick8 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this video too!
@mcneilephotography5967
@mcneilephotography5967 2 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this video from you! I’ve been on the fence and this was a solid video to help me choose! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 thank you
@marcgilles4520
@marcgilles4520 Ай бұрын
This video was very insightful. I like how you utilized the lenses in different scenarios, different light sources and subjects. I also like how you kept expectations grounded, these are budget options. Perfect mix of vlog and information, thanks!
@quintonmckimm
@quintonmckimm 2 ай бұрын
You’re the best with disclosures! Appreciate your honest reviews Benj!
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
Appreciate that, I really hate when it’s not clear what to expect as far as relationships from creators.
@dakaleido1662
@dakaleido1662 2 ай бұрын
The comparison we needed so bad!
@thomaschamberlin2485
@thomaschamberlin2485 2 ай бұрын
Samuel Streetlife compared them two months ago, but the Thypoch he had was pre-production. The interesting thing he found out was the adaptor for Nikon made a big difference in infinity focus accuracy.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
After trying both, I went with the Voigt. Didn't like the mechanics and weird design choices of the Thypoch. Like the sharpness in the Voigt as well.
@dothewubwub
@dothewubwub Ай бұрын
Great video. Very informative. Waiting for your review of the auto focus adapter you have on the ZF. Those can be a game changer if they work well.
@Kevon420
@Kevon420 2 ай бұрын
As far as 6-bit coding goes, you can get a blank 6 bit code mount and paint in the code (in this case the 28mm Summilux) yourself, as well as I've even seen some eBay stores offer to paint in whichever code you specify upon purchase. Obviously you also need to get the correct type of mount, in this case the 28/90 to make sure the framelines are correct. As always, nice little video! I hope you get to cover Typoch's next lens, the 50mm f2 Eureka which is a remake of a Reid Taylor-Hobson from the 1940s. It looks awesome besides the odd divot on the top of the lens mount, which feels it could compromise the mount or at least could collect dust & dirt over time.
@ldmndz4652
@ldmndz4652 2 ай бұрын
Very cool!..that Thypoch depth of filed scale..adds character and is really cool...thats something you dont see anymore..
@thomaschamberlin2485
@thomaschamberlin2485 2 ай бұрын
It has been mentioned that it makes the lens less weather sealed.
@davidluo_photo
@davidluo_photo 2 ай бұрын
Would love to see you test out the VM 35/1.5 too!
@krysdafur
@krysdafur 2 ай бұрын
where/how did you get the screw to replace the red dot?
@CaryZhao
@CaryZhao Ай бұрын
Fun comparison! You were saying something about T stops. If both lenses were at, say, f2, does one let in more light than the other at the same exposure settings? And compared to the Ultron?
@electrichimp
@electrichimp 2 ай бұрын
Out of the 28mm you've tested, which one (or ones) do you feel have more character in their rendering? I love squirly bokeh and a vintage feel in the rendering, so I'm trying to figure out what's the best lens for the purpose (ideally without sacrificing sharpness, or at least not too much :) )
@gugamillet5777
@gugamillet5777 Ай бұрын
Nice video. How are they compered to the 7Artisans 28mm/1.4?
@maiigophotography
@maiigophotography 2 ай бұрын
I'm really curious to how these compare to the Laowa 28mm F1.2 for L Mount.
@randallbrander8157
@randallbrander8157 2 ай бұрын
I Love using the adapter Pholsy or Fotasy ( I can't Remember) , using the M Mount Voigtlander 75mm f/1.8 Helios lens. I have used the F Mount Nikon Zeiss 50mm f/2 Makro-Planar on the SL2-S and the Voigtlander and it is great. I hate to say it I still like the autofocusing lenses better. It does give me experience on what the Mr. Leica's People go through. Cheers!
@mathieumorel448
@mathieumorel448 2 ай бұрын
Now, how do they compare to the 28 mm / 1:2.0 Ultron aspherical mkII? thanks
@frankphotography8470
@frankphotography8470 2 ай бұрын
Please to see the ZF has arrived. Keen to hear your thoughts with M lenses in due course
@ilhamnuriadi
@ilhamnuriadi 2 ай бұрын
Did you ever try the color skopar 28mm f/2.8?
@damienphotographe
@damienphotographe Ай бұрын
Hello Benj, thanks for this video, the Voigtlander lens hood are to be purchased separately, on one hand it adds another 100 to the bill on the other hand the hood is premium metal, you get to choose the one you like (rectangular or round) you can buy it again if you would loose it (who does that) or not buying it at all if you're on a budget. This 28 renders superb fully open.
@anthonykillburn
@anthonykillburn Ай бұрын
Benj sorry i have question how u change srew on leica logo on m11?
@Mootikinss
@Mootikinss 2 ай бұрын
I'd assume you took your test shots on a tripod, but I'd love a video on tips for shooting with Leica/non-stabilized cameras. I continually struggle to get even semi-sharp photos on my M11, which just makes the 60MP feel like a waste.
@CianMcsweeney
@CianMcsweeney Ай бұрын
do you have the black M11? If so it will be harder than with M's that use brass, the heavier M cameras have a better center of gravity for shooting at low shutter speeds. Supporting your elbows on your body, breathing out just before pressing the shutter are all things you can try to stabilize the camera a bit more
@arvidjohansson3120
@arvidjohansson3120 2 ай бұрын
3 years have past since you tested the 28mm 1.4 7artisan. Time flies
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
No joke!
@randallbrander8157
@randallbrander8157 2 ай бұрын
Besides having the Leica 24-70mm f/2.8 and the 90-280 f/2.8-4 I love the Sigma L Mount I Series Lenses 35mm, 45mm, 65mm, 90mm and the 150-600mm OSS Sports Telephoto Zoom lens. I do also own the Sigma 24mm f/1.4 DG DN Art and the Panasonic 50mm & 85mm f/1.8 plus the 14-24mm wide zoom. Also I have the Panasonic 50mm f/1.4 Pro. I love the Leica SL2-S and the Panasonic's S5II & S5IIX cameras. I have all three cameras and lenses plus dummy batterires, chargers and one open spot for the new Leica SL3 to fit in two rucksacks. My everyday camera besides the Nikon Zf is the Leica Q3. Cheers!
@Seapatico
@Seapatico Ай бұрын
So, I owned the Voigtlander already, and I just bought the Thypoch last week to compare them, and here's what I'll add from my own experiences: - I'm going to return the Thypoch, even though I truly like the image quality more. - The Thypoch is heavier by just enough that with my m10 and thin leather strap, it feels too heavy compared to the aluminum Voigtlander. - I like the Voigtlander build and design choices more. - I like that the Voigtlander is lighter and smaller - I like the classic depth of field indicator on the Voigtlander (much easier to use) - I like the traditional focus tab more - I prefer the 1/2 increments on the Voigtlander instead of the 1/3 stops on the Thypoch - The focus throw on the Thypoch feels uneven -- it seems like it slowly goes from infinity to 2m, then quickly from 2m to 0.4m - I actually didn't love the detent at 0.7m. It's not smooth and basically felt like you can focus at 0.7 or 0.4, and anything in between felt difficult to dial in. - The Thypoch has better character in the images and MUCH better control of field curvature - The Thypoch is probably the better deal if you don't mind the negatives I listed. If the size difference didn't bother me, I probably would have put up with the downsides and sold my Voigtlander. But as it stands, the Voigtlander gets out of my way better, and for me that's worth way more than the slight improvement in image quality.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch Ай бұрын
Great summary, thanks for sharing!
@Renzsu
@Renzsu 2 ай бұрын
Apparently Thypoch are also releasing these lenses in Nikon Z mount
@---us7qf
@---us7qf 2 ай бұрын
Okay, thanks Ben. I was obsessing over the Zeiss Distagon f2 / 28mm classic lens for more than 2 months now. This is because I have a new Nikon Zf and want a wide angle lens to go with it. Now, I am not even sure, if I should try this Voigtlander and see if I should buy this instead. Does anyone here, have a comparison between this 28mm Voigtlander and the classic Zeiss 28mm Distagon? Or any thoughts? I would welcome some suggestions. Thanks
@raksh9
@raksh9 Ай бұрын
Are you referring to the post-Hollywood Zeiss Distagon 28/2? This is a very special albeit heavy lens, way bigger than the Voigtlander. With an adapter, it will be huge on the Zf. I have not physically compared them, but it's reasonable to assume that the Voigtlander will let in more light and give more depth of field control than the Zeiss f2. I'm not entirely sold on the Voigtlander's bokeh, but the Zeiss Classic's bokeh and rendering is superb. It's sharp with a ton of pop and lots of contrast.
@---us7qf
@---us7qf Ай бұрын
@@raksh9 Thank you! the size of the Zeiss Distagon, might put me off. I guess I will have to try before I buy it. If it is not too unwieldly, then I may just keep it.
@karlbadde7435
@karlbadde7435 2 ай бұрын
What’s with the silver front ring on the Typoch? Didn’t ever see that before
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
I think that’s standard on the production models
@karlbadde7435
@karlbadde7435 2 ай бұрын
@@benjhaisch You‘re right! The 28mm black version has that silver front ring while the 35mm seems to be all black! Could have sworn that early review 28mm simeras are all black
@leskokromplitz584
@leskokromplitz584 2 ай бұрын
Are they better than 2,0 ultron 2?
@quentindescotte6037
@quentindescotte6037 2 ай бұрын
Yes, the nokton is slightly better than the ultron. Which is amazing. However, there are no profiles available.
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 Ай бұрын
@@quentindescotte6037 “better” how?
@directedbydon
@directedbydon Ай бұрын
how does the Voigtlander compare to your Cron? I'm in the middle of a decision between the two (used Cron for $2100).
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch Ай бұрын
It’s not as “perfect” as the cron and seems a little longer, but depending on your wants/needs out of a lens, it could be great. Only thing I’m seeing is some field curvature on the Voigtlander, which could be an issue at first/1.5
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch Ай бұрын
I’ve got another video specially on the Voigtlander coming out
@directedbydon
@directedbydon Ай бұрын
@@benjhaisch now you got me leaning towards that cron lol
@Ponker
@Ponker 2 ай бұрын
Would like to see it compared to the summilux, since apparently the optical design of the Simera is identical to the FLE.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
I do compare the 35mm lenses in that review
@bunnytobin
@bunnytobin 2 ай бұрын
Oh my god, can someone competent like you finally do a real review of that Techart adapter that actual runs it through real world scenarios. Nothing online goes in depth on that thing. Also, I know it tops out at 500g but I'm curious if you can get away with 530 or 590g lenses. I have a 90 summicron that would be amazing with autofocus.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
Planning on it :)
@bunnytobin
@bunnytobin 2 ай бұрын
@@benjhaisch Thank you! Can't wait.
@Rocky-AR
@Rocky-AR 2 ай бұрын
I've read several store reviews saying that Techart support is nonexistent and that the adapter can break on you randomly. It's pretty expensive for an adapter with those risks.
@garrettcliser6840
@garrettcliser6840 2 ай бұрын
Those unreleased presets look great!
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
Hey thanks!
@bradl2636
@bradl2636 18 сағат бұрын
Thypoch already selling $200 below list used on eBay... ouch. At this rate I might wait till they sink another $100-$150 and pick one up to try then. Might not have to wait long. At $350 I'd give it a shot.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 8 сағат бұрын
I feel like most gear used is ~10-30% or new depending, so I’d be surprised if they dipped that low tbh. The optics are good, it seems like it’s just lack of name recognition and reputation that are holding them back (imo at least)
@Seapatico
@Seapatico 2 ай бұрын
As an owner of the Voigtlander 28mm 1.5, I'm actually finding the Thypoch images to be a little more pleasant for one big reason: the lack of field curvature. I love the Voigtlander 28, but the edges start to come back into focus at 1.5, and it can make a sort of unnatural look, at times. I prefer the look and weight of the Voigtlander lens, but in terms of image character and look, I'm frustratingly drawn to the Thypoch.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been wondering if that was the case tbh.
@konnroi
@konnroi 25 күн бұрын
Nokton is clearer, contrastier, sharper WO, a better image quality, strongest flare resistance, optical vignetting and curved field are always the obvious flaws, and probably fringing too.
@MatthewSeratti
@MatthewSeratti 2 ай бұрын
Kind of non-committal and unhelpful video. Even if both lenses are kind of similar, I would have liked to see more side-by-side shots so that I could at least judge for myself which lens would be better for me. I usually enjoy your videos more. Looking forward to your experience with the Zf.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
Tbh I don’t feel super strong either way. Sometimes things just aren’t definitive ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@MatthewSeratti
@MatthewSeratti 2 ай бұрын
@@benjhaisch I totally get it, but as someone without either lens in hand, it would have been more helpful to see more side-by-side photos so I could make my own judgement. You did a very good job conveying the perceived weight differences and the physical differences, which are both very important characteristics.
@Seapatico
@Seapatico 2 ай бұрын
Kind of rude and unhelpful comment. This channel is free. Go rent them and do your own tests.
@benjhaisch
@benjhaisch 2 ай бұрын
@@MatthewSeratti I mean that’s fair since there aren’t really other channels covering those other pixel peeping kind of details like there are with other reviews. I usually try to focus more on the experience and the output than the others but it does make sense to add *more* of that than normal on a video like this moving forward.
@apocryphal_man
@apocryphal_man 2 ай бұрын
i can only say the lens I was most doubtful about its long term value was my Voigtländer 35. It's the best lens I have EVER bought that combines excellent sharpness when ypi want it with wonderful character when you need it. Superb resale vaöue as well.
@67tagada
@67tagada 2 ай бұрын
Thypoch c'est de la merde !
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