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Ultimate High-End Hi-Hats | Sabian vs. Zildjian vs. Paiste

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Ben Minal

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@kadenlawson2978
@kadenlawson2978 8 жыл бұрын
I think it's funny how "Ben minal" doesn't try meinl. hahahaha, I'm just kidding. great video tho. I liked the k's personally!
@charlesdtall1954
@charlesdtall1954 8 жыл бұрын
+Kaden Lawson RIGHT! I was really hoping he would try out the Meinl Byzance Dual 15" hats, they are KILLER
@pearpiece97
@pearpiece97 8 жыл бұрын
+Kaden Lawson Meinl: the one true god of cymbal manufacturers
@danieljordison0793
@danieljordison0793 8 жыл бұрын
+Charlie Tall to be fair i believe the dual hats weren't out yet when this was posted
@albertarmendariz7855
@albertarmendariz7855 8 жыл бұрын
+Jølly no its actually zuldjian
@pearpiece97
@pearpiece97 8 жыл бұрын
Albert Armendariz Zildjian are grim, plus you can't actually spell the company's name correctly. The only Zildjian cymbals worth buying are the K Customs, which only someone with gold pockets could afford. The rest are just too bright, too heavy and just really not to my taste.
@Axairu
@Axairu 2 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the classics of cymbal reviews of youtube
@HighlanderNorth1
@HighlanderNorth1 Жыл бұрын
🤔 Yeah, but I think he should start his own cymbal manufacturing company! He could call it "Minal". There's no other cymbal manufacturer who's name sounds even remotely similar to that..... I've started a small handmade custom cymbal company of my own. I call the company "Zill Jen". My most popular cymbals are named after my wife. They are the "Kay" series. I've begun a new cymbal line that I've named after something my childhood hero(the Fonz) used to say a lot. They are the "Ayyyy" series. 😁
@privatejimmy5861
@privatejimmy5861 6 жыл бұрын
I dont know how Paiste does it so consistently.. But they always come out on top in sound comparisons according to my eardrums anyway.
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia
@tonycarpenter-Makzimia 2 жыл бұрын
I use Paiste 15 inch big beat hi-hats along with the rest of big beat set. Sounds sensational, I get lots of comments on how they sound over the mics too.
@landonpeckham7752
@landonpeckham7752 2 жыл бұрын
It's because everything except the Masters are stamped like the ZBT's and B8's. So it sounds the same each time
@el_rey_gris9321
@el_rey_gris9321 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's because Paiste is best lol
@drummerkev1627
@drummerkev1627 Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised, but I have those pasty, dark high hats and 13 inch and they sound phenomenal! The only 13 inch hats I have
@briantopps5638
@briantopps5638 19 күн бұрын
fun fact out of all the major 4 cymbal companies, paiste is the only one that doesent have a foundry to cast their cymbals.
@Ticonderous1
@Ticonderous1 4 жыл бұрын
I have played Zildjian cymbals for years , but have had a set of Paiste Signature hi hats for around 20 yrs .. got them on sale for half price $400 AUD in the early 90s and have loved them so much I never changed them out and they are still crisp as ever ..
@rockyjoelnoe
@rockyjoelnoe 6 жыл бұрын
Been using the Paiste Dark Crisp ones for 8 years they sound great, last long, and fits in almost all genres. Absolutely the best gift I ever got.
@rsilvers129
@rsilvers129 Жыл бұрын
Your sense of rhythm is unusually good even for drummers.
@DandsDrummer
@DandsDrummer 10 жыл бұрын
Sabian 1:26 Zildjian 4:16 Paiste 7:01
@DannyGadish
@DannyGadish 7 жыл бұрын
DanLobboDrummer thanks. so much unessesary talking
@wolfman6489
@wolfman6489 6 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it, the talking was annoying!
@martin.official
@martin.official 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks :)
@aiborland4835
@aiborland4835 5 жыл бұрын
God's work son, god's work. Thank you.
@Joker-ke1bn
@Joker-ke1bn 10 жыл бұрын
my thought is paiste dark crisp signature
@martinlaporte2112
@martinlaporte2112 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree ! Very smooth and much darker.
@TSPfan
@TSPfan 6 жыл бұрын
This video convinced me to buy the Paiste Dark Crisp Hi-hats. They're absolutely amazing!
@robertdore9592
@robertdore9592 4 жыл бұрын
They were Jeff Porcaro's weapon of choice.
@erikfraunfelter3628
@erikfraunfelter3628 9 жыл бұрын
My hats are the Sabian HHX Xcelerators. They are my favorite cymbals of all time! They are very crisp, with an extremely articulate foot chick. The bottom hat is wavy looking, which lets air escape (similar to the soundwave design from Paiste) You don't have to fiddle with the cradle like Ben did on the hi hat stand with the xcelerator hats. I just love them and love Sabian!
@StevenMartinGuitar
@StevenMartinGuitar 10 жыл бұрын
Very glad you used the same recording setup to the budget hats video too. Made for a cool comparison between videos. I'm a guitarist not a drummer so I'm not too clued up on things like types of hats but I preferred the sound of the K's.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 10 жыл бұрын
Yep I've kept a consistent setup across all of the stuff I've tested. The Ks are getting a lot of love from people watching these vids. Understandably, they're wicked ;)
@dbsendyd
@dbsendyd 8 жыл бұрын
2:05 I love this bass drum rhythm.
@racefrazier7998
@racefrazier7998 8 жыл бұрын
whoops...I ran over my old hats. Looks like I'll have to buy the paiste signature.
@Lehmann108
@Lehmann108 8 жыл бұрын
You can get medium level drums and with good heads and they'll sound fine, but only high-end cymbals sound good. Budget cymbals are shit.
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 4 жыл бұрын
Lehmann Peters Yes. The sound is all in the heads. The drum shell simply ALLOWS the head to do a certain thing. The potential of the head will be released by the drum shell. Shells don’t have a “sound” as many people believe.
@LanceWillMakeIt
@LanceWillMakeIt 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Rico this actually helps me a lot. I was wondering if I should get a new kit or just get real nice heads, 👍
@Assimilator702
@Assimilator702 4 жыл бұрын
doog I still recommend having a pro level kit as the pro kits have many appointments that will give you more life. The most important feature of any drum is the edge of the drum shell. That’s where all the magic happens. If the head seats properly and evenly with low tension you’re at a good starting point. I would recommend a used pro level kit in good condition over a mid or entry level kit. Although there ARE exceptions as companies like Tama offer the Superstar Classic which are great shells that tune up easily and are dirt cheap for what you get. Yamaha is another brand with their Stage Custom. Look at some used Tama Starclassic Performers B/B or even some Birch Superstars or other sets in that price bracket used and you’ll be better off if your budget is say under $1,500. If you need brand new the Tama Superstar Classic Maple is great. 7 piece kits with a snare for under $1000 and they sound very good. The new Superstar Hyperdrive is nice since you have diecast hoops and the newer Starcast mounts. If you set your budget at $1200 and look at the used kits on Guitar Center you will find some amazing deals. I’ve seen killer kits for as little as $500. You might have to deal with some scratches but at least you’ll have a solid kit once the heads are changed.
@LanceWillMakeIt
@LanceWillMakeIt 4 жыл бұрын
Joe Rico thanks again man, great help
@nichtimmer9134
@nichtimmer9134 4 жыл бұрын
It give also good middle class cymbals
@TheAlbiCollier
@TheAlbiCollier 7 жыл бұрын
To my ear I think the Sabians would sit better in alot of my mixes, Didn't realise they were so different! So awesome! Thanks for this!
@johnmilner5485
@johnmilner5485 Жыл бұрын
Got into Sabians in the early early 90s because they were quite a step up from my early days ( beginner playing on Cambers ) with the introduction of the B8pro line and quite affordable , then stepped up gradually to AA / AAX as money and my skill set improved . I never really cared for Zildjian with the exception of one or two specific cymbals , always wanted Paiste as I've always thought they sounded just a bit better ( still think that to this day ) but early on and even well before I stepped up to a few HH series they still weren't affordable and I've always been happy playing my wide variety of Sabians . I got out of playing for over a decade and when I got back into it I went with my trusty Sabians yet again because I always had very good luck using them and was absolutely comfortable with the quality and sound. Today I have a mixture or sbr/aa/ aax and the one hh ride I never got rid of. I guess the major reason I stuck with them and went back was their warranty / customer service in the late 90s and early 00s . They took care of me , when I doubt the others would have. Customer for life .
@danlc95
@danlc95 5 жыл бұрын
"Ultimate High End" is a bit of a misnomer. Price usually reflects production methods that are more intensive. For example: a 14" Paiste 2002 Heavy Hi Hat, and a 14" Signature Heavy Hi Hat are at two separate price points, and the latter a proprietary alloy, and more workmanship in production. However, they are both considered professional grade cymbals. Zildjian uses automatic hammering for their A, and K likes. The Constantinople might be hand hammered, but I'm not 100% on that. For Zildjian to create a K cymbal, they only need to change the programming for their hammering machines. The labor is identical, but due to market perception, can charge more. The main point is that price is misleading. People will buy the most expensive because it is "the best", without realizing that the product is not necessarily the most appropriate for the situation. Some people will break thousands of dollars worth of thin jazz cymbals because they're not loud or cutting enough, before they realize they need a brighter, thicker cymbal - even though it's got a lower price point. Pay attention to sonic requirements before falling for a price point.
@ozmium71
@ozmium71 9 жыл бұрын
Great review. Love the K series, I own some Paiste signature sound edge hats and they are brilliant. I haven't had the pleasure of the Sabians but they sound very, very nice. But as you say, for the price of all of these lovely cymbals they are all going to be super high quality, it just comes down to preference. Thanks again for the great review.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 9 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@ynotw57
@ynotw57 10 жыл бұрын
Great video and demo of these beautiful cymbals. I've played the K and Paiste DC hats, and I love them both. Haven't tried the Sabians, but they certainly have great articulation. Thanks for sharing, and nice chops.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 10 жыл бұрын
Thanks glad you enjoyed it!
@RhymesWithCarbon
@RhymesWithCarbon 5 жыл бұрын
Lmao. I skipped into the video about 1:45 without looking, and said "Huh. I like those hihats A LOT. I bet they're Sabian." And then I discover they're 14 HHX Evolution hi-hats. EXACTLY WHAT I PLAY. No wonder I liked it so much.
@MichaelMcCabe43
@MichaelMcCabe43 10 жыл бұрын
I'm generally a paiste fan but there weren't any here that stood out as better than the others, all great sets
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
@PNW_Sportbike_Life 5 жыл бұрын
I've owned HHX Evos. They weren't very loud at all; great sounding though. I currently have a pair of K Mastersounds and some Paiste sound edge hats. The Ks are by far my favorite; perfect balance between bright and dark and LOUD. My Paiste hats have a ton of character; they are dark and LOUD. I use the Paiste hats as my aux hats.
@jonn443
@jonn443 7 жыл бұрын
The K Custom Session hats should definitely be included in this comparison. If they were, I guarantee that your #1 choice would be a toss-up between the Session hats and the HHX Evolutions. They are fantastic.
@salparadise4804
@salparadise4804 5 жыл бұрын
Paiste are my brand of choice, but I am incredibly fussy about hi hats and was not really satisfied until I stumbled upon a pair of Paiste Twenty Custom Full Hi Hats. They are Turkish B20 bronze - just like Meinl Byzance - but handmade in Switzerland. They're very heavy, with well defined chick and stick, and manage to be both crisp and dark, but with a warm overall tone. You can really lay into them with the shoulder of the stick and they start to roar or, with a little restraint, get lovely little chips and chirps out of them with the tip of the stick. Absolutely the finest hi hats I have ever played. Too bad they don't make them anymore!
@fabianfierros1968
@fabianfierros1968 10 жыл бұрын
I'm for those sabian evos. So clean and smooth when played closed down tight. they are not as glassy as paiste which I do like but prefer them evos.
@debbiecarbone3202
@debbiecarbone3202 5 жыл бұрын
Play Zildjian my whole life but I'm telling you I'm really liking the Paiste brand
@quint7394
@quint7394 4 жыл бұрын
try the 16" signature china. one of the only Paistes i use. Zildjian for 40 + YRS ;)
@lzasyr
@lzasyr 4 жыл бұрын
Quint73 u should try wuhan China’s, they are very trashy and sound amazing, still Zildjian for life!
@ingemosh5430
@ingemosh5430 3 жыл бұрын
i am a paiste guy but recently got me a set of k custom dark cmbals because they are very cool, great sounding cymbals.
@marcoberg4455
@marcoberg4455 Ай бұрын
The best of Zildjan 13‘ & 14‘ K/Z Dyno Beats aus den 80 iger ‚ bis heute🤘
@SocialistDistancing
@SocialistDistancing 5 жыл бұрын
I have 4 sets of hats for three kits. Two sets are original zildgian Canada hats. One set I've had for 38 years. They were pretty revolutionary at the time. A and extra heavy flat bottom(no bell) with four holes near the center to allow air to escape. I believe they were called flat hats. The second zildgians also Canada originals. I can't remember what model they are but I've had them for about 28 years. I horse traded for them. They have a much trashier sound. The third set are 14" sabian vault hats. I love these things. Had them 13 years. My favorite hats at the moment. And then I have cheap bottom line pearls I horse traded for. These hats are ok for jam sessions when you don't want some hack playing your good wares. I've wanting to try out some new hats so I just ordered the hhx evolution 15" hats. I had a conversation with Burton Cummings drummer and it turns out the guess who's original drummer used 15s. So I thought I'd give those a spin. I must say, I've played both zildgians and sabians. Hats, rides, crashes, splashes.etc. When the brothers split and zildgians were no longer available In Canada, I went sabian. Sure, "some" zildgians sound better than some sabians. However, in my opinion the difference is marginal and not worth hemorrhaging cash for. I look at zildgians like Harley Davidsons. They're a lot of money for a name and an image. And that's all great if that's the clan you want to belong to. But my Suzuki boulevard goes down the road the same way and for a fraction of the cost of Harley. I'm just not hearing a benefit for the price.
@tomweaver6324
@tomweaver6324 10 жыл бұрын
I've always been a zildjian guy but those hhx evolutions man, they royally trump my old Z3 hats
@callen7436
@callen7436 5 жыл бұрын
I left Zildjian back in 2010 after the Evolution hats came out
@danagboyer
@danagboyer 8 жыл бұрын
Zildjian Ks for me in this example. :)
@AJYZF1R2010
@AJYZF1R2010 9 жыл бұрын
I went with the sabian HHX super happy with them they sound awesome they look good too
@ismael3867
@ismael3867 5 жыл бұрын
We can’t get over the fact that meinl has the best hats
@maltes666
@maltes666 3 жыл бұрын
Agenda but they are expensive
@Lukas-kh5gu
@Lukas-kh5gu 8 жыл бұрын
Meinl Byzance Vintage Pure Hi Hats would have been amazing to compete against those 3.
@DaveFuucck
@DaveFuucck 10 жыл бұрын
I liked the sabians but I actually really liked the paistes. The K's didnt do much for me honestly
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 10 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was impressed with the Paistes too, just depends on what you're looking for!
@sjholmes101
@sjholmes101 10 жыл бұрын
The Ks are a great pair of recording hats, but if you want hats that are that clean, dark, and articulate, just go with Sabian Artisan 14" or 15" hats. The Paistes sound exactly the same at every range to me, they all sound like sheet brass, machine lathed and hammered trash can lids.
@rippindrummer666
@rippindrummer666 9 жыл бұрын
Have you heard 602s or giant beats those are where it's at when it comes to paiste
@kevinmorrison6938
@kevinmorrison6938 7 жыл бұрын
You must not like Led Zeppelin, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, old Rush either. ...all Paiste. They are the most heard cymbal in classic rock.
@cobra1995xx
@cobra1995xx 5 жыл бұрын
The hhx in 15 sound awesome too
@shanemartin8904
@shanemartin8904 Жыл бұрын
I love Minal cymbals, I'm super impressed you still review other companies and other than your companys cymals. Minal cymbals are the best
@elgar6743
@elgar6743 2 жыл бұрын
Let your playing style and your ears decide...do not choose based only on price...obviously. Been playing Sabian since 1986
@SimplyReg
@SimplyReg 8 жыл бұрын
He said Haitch Haitch Ex. I'm scarred.
@anixben
@anixben 8 жыл бұрын
why tho?
@shamicentertainment1262
@shamicentertainment1262 6 жыл бұрын
I don't get it, what's the problem.
@sirstabbyfork9675
@sirstabbyfork9675 6 жыл бұрын
Shamic Entertainment because some other people pronounce it aitch,
@gbmistake3776
@gbmistake3776 5 жыл бұрын
But, but that's how it's pronounced...
@glennnash6621
@glennnash6621 5 жыл бұрын
I'm dead laughing lol, that's probably how it's pronounced. I'm in STL, we don't pronounce anything right I feel.
@HunterShawMusic
@HunterShawMusic 10 жыл бұрын
Istanbul and Meinl Byzance stuff would blow any of these away. Especially Istanbul. In my opinion Istanbul makes the finest cymbals ever made.
@XXxxABHxxXX
@XXxxABHxxXX 3 жыл бұрын
I've got Istambul rides, Meinl crash and splashes, Zwidjian crashes, Zultan crash rides... and very few models and brands beat the HHX Legacy hats. Very very few of them.
@joecap2919
@joecap2919 Ай бұрын
I actually just picked up a mint set of 1960s New Beats, the best sounding I have used in 44yrs behind a kit.
@BW_Drums
@BW_Drums 10 жыл бұрын
I'm strictly a Metal drummer, but that drumming you had going on with the Paiste hats was groovy! Really great. Hard to choose from the three, I'd have any of them. Though with having such a great experience with my 18" HHX Evolution crash, I'd probably go with the HHX hats. Just because I know the quality (and HHX is one of my favourite series of any cymbal).
@lromijn
@lromijn 10 жыл бұрын
I've got the Sabian HHX 14" Evolution Hi-hat myself as well! :D
@jmendyka4325
@jmendyka4325 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@chad9160
@chad9160 3 жыл бұрын
@@jmendyka4325 I believe you might be 6 years late
@bmentlow
@bmentlow 9 жыл бұрын
I'm biased, lol so..The K's definitely had the better sound for my tastes. Those Sabians were nice, but K's always speak to me. My set now that I've been on for a couple of years are the classic 14" K/Z set up..To me it covers all styles and genres, not just Jazz, R&B. As soon as he step down on the K's and I heard that "chick", I got a silly grin on my face because there's no mistaking that brand's sound..
@collinkennedy5174
@collinkennedy5174 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, you speak truth.
@cunnerzzz
@cunnerzzz 8 жыл бұрын
Good review man, I currently have a pair of Paiste Rude Hi Hats and wouldn't change them for the world, they do the most perfect job throughout the genres.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Yeah I've heard good things - it's all subjective. Glad you've found your babies haha
@reactorhd4943
@reactorhd4943 6 жыл бұрын
cunnerzzz A year late but Arent Paiste Rude rare?
@HeroikKK
@HeroikKK 9 жыл бұрын
being a fellow open hander left handed love your style and great video really showed the crispness of high end hats, cheers!
@TheDayisMineTrebeck
@TheDayisMineTrebeck 10 жыл бұрын
Hhx-most articulate and crisp. Brightest and smoothest by far. Fusion for sure. K's - very washy and choclately. Can see why they are a jazz favorite. Paistes- darkest but also the glassiest. They had the most treble out of any of them. Rock and beyond.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 10 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@callen7436
@callen7436 5 жыл бұрын
I really dig your breakdown of the hats bro! Very accurate
@LanceWillMakeIt
@LanceWillMakeIt 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao, never heard someone describe cymbals as chocolatey
@MrNickDrummer
@MrNickDrummer 9 жыл бұрын
Paites FTW. In this video the EQ on your recording equipment is adjusted for the clunky sounding Sabians and Zildjians. For Paistes, all you do is turn the EQ OFF, as those cymbals are already "factory EQd" so to speak... If you add some compression on Paiste cymbals, your jaw will drop and the other brands will be blown out of their stands.
@matimacek6438
@matimacek6438 6 жыл бұрын
what do you mean on adding compression?
@cjmst3k
@cjmst3k 6 жыл бұрын
I think he means that you don't have to mess with the sound quality on Paiste's, which EQ can make any cymbal sound good. If the compression is on, that will allow all the subtle characteristics which are unique to the Paiste's will be even more noticeable (and possibly highlight flaws in others). Compression doesn't color the sound. It just adjusts the volume so you can hear instrument. Having said that, I currently use a Paiste Signature sound edge bottom hat, and a 70's Zildjian as top hat, so I get complexity, dryness, as well as shimmer.
@glennharmes1629
@glennharmes1629 3 жыл бұрын
Coolest vid I have seen for a long, long, long, time at 64. Kick butt make it happen. Love.
@ikon8275
@ikon8275 5 жыл бұрын
Those sabian HHX are so tight and crispy.
@EvilDragon666
@EvilDragon666 8 жыл бұрын
All three here sound absolutely amazing and you can't go wrong with either one. At this point it's all subjective really. Me, I like the Paiste!
@longnguyenhoang2854
@longnguyenhoang2854 4 жыл бұрын
7:08 Do all drummers have face expression like him when drumming? =))))
@mikew3494
@mikew3494 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@PhaseConverterampV
@PhaseConverterampV 3 жыл бұрын
Worse, that’s nothin
@blvcksandblues
@blvcksandblues Жыл бұрын
I used to use a pair of 14" As from the '70s. I absolutely LOVED those hi-hats, but I wanted something a bit more crisp and shimmery. I bought the HHX complex 15". It will be a while before I buy another pair worth buying because of how awesome the HHX complex are.
@evergreengunnut1621
@evergreengunnut1621 7 жыл бұрын
Great demo, and awesome playing! I own and LOVE the K Mastersound hats, and I've owned the HHX Evos; you cannot go worng with either choice. I also love HHX evolution crashes.
@veru6907
@veru6907 4 жыл бұрын
Are you playing with no ear protection or am I blind
@0tto777
@0tto777 6 жыл бұрын
Had k custom 13” dark hats in the past and they have a gongy quality that I was never a fan of. Currently using hhx 13” evolutions and the crispness and chunkiness of the sound is unparalleled. As an audio engineer I’ve worked with a lot of drummers and I’ve never heard better than the evolutions.
@63Baggies
@63Baggies 8 жыл бұрын
The Sabian's sound EQ'd already.
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah they have that color to them.
@gabejohnston1556
@gabejohnston1556 7 жыл бұрын
The HHXs are head and shoulders above the others, in my personal taste. More body than the Ks, more precise wash than the Paistes. I believe HHX Evo hats will be the hats I buy for the studio.
@gabejohnston1556
@gabejohnston1556 7 жыл бұрын
The Evos are awesome hats for sure. You might also check out the Zildjian A Custom Mastersound hats. Probably the closest equivalent to the Sabians. I don't like those K hats much either.
@afonsoserro4437
@afonsoserro4437 9 жыл бұрын
i pitty the fools who never tried istanbul cymbals
@elithepitbulldog2209
@elithepitbulldog2209 9 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%
@HaloAdmiral
@HaloAdmiral 9 жыл бұрын
+Afonso Serro I wanna buy some Agops. But I really love Paiste so much ;v;
@afonsoserro4437
@afonsoserro4437 9 жыл бұрын
There are so many cheap turkish brands that are much better that zildjian or sabian or even paiste. Turkish cymbals are not very common in america, i guess.
@elithepitbulldog2209
@elithepitbulldog2209 9 жыл бұрын
+Derpmuffins The Great the difference is pure bronze sheet from Paiste or cast bronze with a touch of impurities. Paiste is very consistent, but I like the dirt and grit factor in the Turkish made cymbals. Each one different for the most part. There is nothing like lining up several Turkish cymbals and trying to decide which one I like:-))
@HaloAdmiral
@HaloAdmiral 9 жыл бұрын
I would totally invest in Istanbul or Turkish cymbals! I just don't know what to expect due to the inconsistencies. But, if you can give some good suggestions for funk/jazz cymbals, I all for looking into them!
@azthedrummer5553
@azthedrummer5553 8 жыл бұрын
I've got the k mastersound there so nice
@PNW_Sportbike_Life
@PNW_Sportbike_Life 5 жыл бұрын
By far the best hats I've owned. I'd never get rid of them!
@falconpowerful2362
@falconpowerful2362 9 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, I came here to make choosing a set of hihats easier, now I have MORE of a dilemma... Those Paiste 'hats sound awesome too...
@ryansparrelldrums
@ryansparrelldrums 6 жыл бұрын
Just ordered some hhx hats yesterday and They can’t get here fast enough! Sounds amazing!
@emmittsmith482
@emmittsmith482 8 жыл бұрын
No Meinl? Byzance Sand Hats?
@Dat_boi1188
@Dat_boi1188 8 жыл бұрын
+emmittsmith482 or vintage pure???
@mrelegoboy
@mrelegoboy 8 жыл бұрын
+emmittsmith482 it coult be that there is no specific high or low end cymbals when it comes to meinl it's just getting the best sound that you want, or other reason
@erikfraunfelter3628
@erikfraunfelter3628 8 жыл бұрын
+emmittsmith482 This was already addressed!
@drumboy940
@drumboy940 6 жыл бұрын
Or vintage sand?
@Cyderaal
@Cyderaal 7 жыл бұрын
When u play the paiste's cymbal you play AMAZING man! You should play paiste, it inspires you :') ahaha
@Hazamayakiba
@Hazamayakiba 8 жыл бұрын
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble, but you can toss all those hi-hats and get the GREATEST high end, crisp, cut thru anything hi-hat sound in the WORLD, using the following mismatched setup (a secret of many pros): 1) Zildjian "Z Custom" Dyno-Beat 13"/33cm for your Bottom Hat. 2) And here's the rub~> Zildjian K Custom Hybrid BOTTOM Hi-Hat as~> Your TOP Hat...yes...I said it right~> a Bottom Hat on TOP! This extraordinary combo makes any "set" of hi-hats, no matter the high cost, sound WHIMPY & FLAT. Try it.
@jus10music98
@jus10music98 6 жыл бұрын
"Bang the hell outta those drums Dale "😂😂😂
@DanMarcelino
@DanMarcelino 8 жыл бұрын
love those K's! =]
@mikeyp8100
@mikeyp8100 8 жыл бұрын
i like how a customs look but i like how k cusrom sound
@lt.frankdrebin3317
@lt.frankdrebin3317 3 жыл бұрын
You just have to make sure they're adjusted properly to sound good. Sabian all the way..
@DanMarcelino
@DanMarcelino 3 жыл бұрын
@@lt.frankdrebin3317 ... the composition of the metal and the way it’s manufactured dictates the quality of sound.. adjustment makes very little to no difference
@MATTlovesDRUMS
@MATTlovesDRUMS 10 жыл бұрын
I thought Portnoy used AAX Stage hats..... I use HHX Click hats. Had the choice of these or AAX X-Celerator hats. Not disappointed!
@69metallicarules1
@69metallicarules1 9 жыл бұрын
portnoy uses 14 aax stage hats and 13 hhx groove hats on the right side of the kit. and i think he uses 14 or 15 aax stage hats on his other kit. he's also used 13 aa rock hats on metropolis 2.
@mr.d7429
@mr.d7429 5 жыл бұрын
Portnoy uses a 14” HHX Evolution on the left side on his Albino Monster kit!
@cpu554
@cpu554 5 жыл бұрын
The still for the Paiste's said PST @6:51,which is a big stepdown from the Sigs.
@ToomanyFrancis
@ToomanyFrancis 6 жыл бұрын
So about that "heavier on bottom" part. Some hi-hat series are flipped, with K custom session hats, the bottom cymbal is about a quarter of an inch bigger (not very noticeable) however, the top cymbal is thicker and heavier. I personally love the way those work, different sound than any other set of hats.
@allenmcclain2745
@allenmcclain2745 3 жыл бұрын
HHX wins for me by miles and miles.
@josteinv.jordet257
@josteinv.jordet257 3 жыл бұрын
Miles davis?
@RJ-qi7oj
@RJ-qi7oj 3 жыл бұрын
Sabian shit
@ezramartin-rosenthal457
@ezramartin-rosenthal457 8 жыл бұрын
8:27 I'm weak
@chancejohnson8504
@chancejohnson8504 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, Bosphorus makes some intense and insane hats as well.....Meinl too...its just a personal choice. Obviously no one will be doing wrong with any of these...just depends on what you want your sound to be....thanks for the video
@Hadrorex
@Hadrorex 7 жыл бұрын
15 inch Zildjian A-Custom Mastersounds are my favorites over any others I've played. I also run a Meinl Classic Custom bottom cymbal OVER a Zildjian Z3 MasterSound Bottom. Killer! Who says one has to be a slave to a brand? Also use a Paiste 2002 bottom OVER a Sabian HHX Evo bottom or Artisan Top. In my 55 years playing drums I've amassed quite a wide collection of cymbals. Over two hundred. I mix and have fun! Currently running a nine-piece Yamaha Maple Custom Absolute kit in Plum Stain, Three DW 9000 series cabled Hi-Hats and a DW 5000 cabled Hi-Hat rigged to a cowbell struck by a Ching-ring!
@larrytate1657
@larrytate1657 7 жыл бұрын
Nice. I have a Yamaha maple absolute noveau kit for ten years now. Love it.
@Hadrorex
@Hadrorex 7 жыл бұрын
I love those drums! Some dude beat me to a set of those in Natural with brass/gold hardware. I had to settle for what I have.
@anolaf
@anolaf 10 жыл бұрын
I'd like to be the one that points out the fact that this guy's last name is Minal, yet Meinl cymbals (pronounced just like his name) aren't included in any of these videos.
@martinlaporte2112
@martinlaporte2112 4 жыл бұрын
The Paistes are the best sounding ones, hands down.
@ChristianSandviknes
@ChristianSandviknes Жыл бұрын
Could have sworn you said "Ben Meinl" so I figured, "why is he checking out everthing except Meinl"
@thumperpaul
@thumperpaul 5 жыл бұрын
I am a Sabian guy (14” AA sizzle hats), but those K’s sound really sweet!
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401
@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 3 жыл бұрын
Can you hear the rivets over the top hihat sizzling against the bottom?
@thumperpaul
@thumperpaul 3 жыл бұрын
@@robinhoodwasasocialist.1401 the rivets are actually on the bottom hat. With them partially open, the sound is more fuller, you can tell they make a bit of a difference
@SXI96
@SXI96 5 жыл бұрын
I have a pair of cheap Sabian XS hats that sound way better then my expensive Zildjian K hats, Zildjian K's are overrated imho, i was so disappointed in my K crashes as well, they sounded puny compared to my other cheap cymbals
@playerhateroftheyear1084
@playerhateroftheyear1084 5 жыл бұрын
That's a very strong opinion
@SXI96
@SXI96 5 жыл бұрын
@@playerhateroftheyear1084 It's very true though. I'm not just hating on Zildjian or anything. I was genuinely disappointed. I couldn't believe it. My cheap Wuhan traditional cymbals sounded soo much better. It was a major letdown especially after spending so much money. I returned all my K crashes but couldn't return my K hats. I haven't played them since.
@thatguy-bt2hq
@thatguy-bt2hq 5 жыл бұрын
I love both Wuhan and Zildjian K's you're right on Wuhan's having a good quality for its price. but its still better than being me, i'm stuck with really bright sounding Paiste 2002's which sound good except when it's not the style it's intended for. I think it really comes down to preference. But you do raise a good point, wuhan makes exceptional cymbals and are often overlooked, I think some cheap cymbals are underrated for doing a good job.
@SXI96
@SXI96 5 жыл бұрын
@@thatguy-bt2hq Wuhan Traditional cymbals sound amazing for the price, the only issue I have is with the consistency between cymbals, I have two 16 inch crashes that sound good but so different, the quality control is lacking in Wuhan, but when you're paying a fraction of the price, you really can't complain
@MrArtcam
@MrArtcam 7 жыл бұрын
Paiste!!!
@ThePrateekPradhan
@ThePrateekPradhan 7 жыл бұрын
wow ! I've never laid my hands on more expensive cymbals. I'd die to even play one of those ...
@callen7436
@callen7436 5 жыл бұрын
Go to Guitar Center online & type in cymbals. Make sure you filter for your zip code to 500 miles, good to excellent condition, used cymbals of course. Then take your pick. Buy them 1 by 1 at half the price for most lines & models. If I wouldn't bought all my cymbals at 1 time they would've ran me $3,000 but I know I played around $1,500 buying them 1 at a time. No shame in saving model, getting good quality in what you want with no compromises!
@virdixxii8341
@virdixxii8341 5 жыл бұрын
I have the Zildjian K custom dark hats, and I love them
@observeandrapport8862
@observeandrapport8862 9 жыл бұрын
haych haych ex
@g.selamet
@g.selamet 9 жыл бұрын
Ultimate High End hihat's without "istanbul cymbals" in it ? What a big mistake.
@bobsbigboy_
@bobsbigboy_ 8 жыл бұрын
+gokhan selamet LOL fuck istanbul fam and fuck soultone fam. High end popular, commercial gear for life fam
@PeterEnis69
@PeterEnis69 7 жыл бұрын
Are Soultones really that bad? I wanted to get one of the custom brilliant series...
@TravWD21
@TravWD21 6 жыл бұрын
Ufip
@MalikEmmanuel
@MalikEmmanuel 6 жыл бұрын
Moshy Istanbul is a mainstream commercial brand, they just have less distribution in the U.S. coming from Turkey than Zildjian (U.S.) or its brother company Sabian (Canada).
@sirstabbyfork9675
@sirstabbyfork9675 6 жыл бұрын
Travis Henderson ufips sound great but unfortunately they're not very consistent
@willisdotcom
@willisdotcom 7 жыл бұрын
i have had the k hats since around 1994 and they get better with age!
@nsiepmann
@nsiepmann 10 жыл бұрын
Ben, not surprised to hear you like Gavin Harrison - I can hear a lot of his playing coming through in yours!
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 10 жыл бұрын
Cheers Nick, massive complement :) Gav is one of my idols!
@pearpiece97
@pearpiece97 8 жыл бұрын
No Meinl hats, 0/10 and disliked.
@BenMinal
@BenMinal 8 жыл бұрын
I didn't have any Meinl hats available for the shoot. I love Meinl cymbals but there weren't stocked by Andertons who provided all the gear for these videos.
@pearpiece97
@pearpiece97 8 жыл бұрын
Ben Minal Fair enough. What's your opinion on Meinl hats anyway? Mb20 and Byzance for example?
@albertarmendariz7855
@albertarmendariz7855 8 жыл бұрын
+Ben Minal you are an awsome drumner man and can you do a video of sticks compare pro mark and vic firth if you can do the video i will really appreciate it.
@jongswa
@jongswa 8 жыл бұрын
Best idea! (vic firth is the best)
@zash008
@zash008 8 жыл бұрын
+Joshua 234 ....Vic Firth Xtreme 5A for me. haven't played anything else in likely 25 years by now. Love 'em
@dadygee
@dadygee 6 жыл бұрын
paiste hihat, AAX crash, K coustom ride and a wuhan gong.. thats how i roll. Paiste makes the best hi-hats.
@johnjamesmclaughlin
@johnjamesmclaughlin 8 жыл бұрын
That k sizzle is pleasingly nice to my ears
@U2WB
@U2WB 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have never liked the sound of Sabian cymbals, and these are no exception. I personally am a Paiste player, but I have always thought Zildjian made the best sounding hats. They have the most refined sound to my ears, although the Paiste hi hats cut better. I’m using Signature Precision Sound Edge hats and love them.
@RaelThomas
@RaelThomas 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a sabian fan, but not of these hats or the evolution series as whole (although the crashes have their place). A better comparison to these paiste hats would be the Sabian legacy or artisan series. I have a 22 Legacy heavy ride and it's an absolutely phenomenal cymbal.
@JayJay-ii5un
@JayJay-ii5un 2 жыл бұрын
Zildjian new beats always. Best of these are the sabian by far. Listening with headphones.
@ibleebinU
@ibleebinU Жыл бұрын
Yup. Timeless classics.
@trenthogan4212
@trenthogan4212 2 жыл бұрын
Sabians wins by far IMO, they sounded absolutely divine.
@lloydaugust4649
@lloydaugust4649 5 жыл бұрын
first thought also Kaden made me laugh,great minds think alike,lol.....hi ben love the hhx cymbals,im a Zildian fan for a long time,went to a studio they had the Hhx hats,love at first site,so i bought the HHX Evolution Cymbal Set,thanks for posting,great stuff
@Boulder_Betta
@Boulder_Betta Жыл бұрын
Honestly, those HHX sound exactly like the XSR's I heard when Nick D'Virgilio played them in the Sweetwater vid
@isaiah529
@isaiah529 3 жыл бұрын
Paiste Dark Energy hats have more articulation than the Crisp and are right there with the HHx hats. Even better for my taste. Great hands 👍
@toxictomdude
@toxictomdude 10 жыл бұрын
I'm loving these new videos Ben! Keep 'em coming!
@Mityob67
@Mityob67 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review and reminding me why I love Sabian.
@t.j.hargrove5964
@t.j.hargrove5964 6 жыл бұрын
those paiste hats are my ride or die hats, love em so much
@SubaruWRXspdManual
@SubaruWRXspdManual 6 жыл бұрын
After my zildjian ZHT hats( good hats for $160 back then) I wanted a set of K's so bad, but I couldn't justify the $399 price tag. I ended up getting a set of zildjian A mastersounds and I really like them. They were $330, so I don't know if they'd be considered in the top of hats, but still not cheap. All these hats sound great, just personal preference from there. Give me the K's though.
@tommybell1786
@tommybell1786 Жыл бұрын
The Paistes clearly sound best, but none of them are even close to old, thin zildjians from the 60's. JMO. Great video! Thanks.
@eyesonfire4301
@eyesonfire4301 6 жыл бұрын
the K/Z hats are FAR better IME (especially mic'd) than the standard K's. 13 inch too gives it a crisper more round sound and versatility than many K hats and some others too imo. Great video,thanks! K top and HEAVY Z bottom.excellent combo
@iDrumGod
@iDrumGod 8 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who plays open-hand an actually looks cool doing it. Best part is that you're a Brit haha, respect brother. Great demo
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