Shoei Neotec 3 review: ALL WEATHER road test

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UPDATE: Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
The Shoei Neotec 3 on review here is one of the most important motorcycle helmet launches of the year as this flip-front lid has long been the benchmark for touring riders, not to mention couriers and the emergency services.
Bennetts BikeSocial has an enviable reputation for the most in-depth and honest reviews of motorcycle kit, and it’s very important to us that we maintain that. While I was fortunate enough to get hold of a full production version of the Neotec 3 four weeks before its release having signed a strict non-disclosure agreement, the test - as always - remains entirely independent and unbiased.
As we finally release this review, I’ve ridden around 700 miles in the Shoei Neotec 3 on a 2019 BMW R1250GS, a 2001 Honda VFR800 and a 1999 Kawasaki ZX-6R, to find out if the changes made are truly improvements…
For the review of the SRL3, click here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial...
For the full written review, which will be constantly updated through continued testing, click here: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial...
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Chapters
00:00 Why you can trust this review
01:34 Why you should try a flip-front / modular helmet
02:21 Shoei Neotec 3 outer shell & fit
05:12 Shoei Neotec 3 weight
06:14 Shoei Neotec 3 ventilation
08:50 Shoei Neotec 3 visor
11:21 Shoei Neotec 3 lining
21:09 Shoei Neotec 3 strap
21:35 Shoei Neotec 3 noise
13:45 Fitting your own intercom to the Shoei Neotec 3
25:36 Shoei Neotec 3 review: Verdict
17:40 Bonus announcement: Shoei GT-Air 3
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@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
UPDATE: Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3! Here's the full written review of the Shoei Neotec 3, which will be constantly updated as testing continues: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/shoei-neotec-3-review
@flexywing
@flexywing 10 ай бұрын
Great news as I bought the Neotec on the understanding the coms would fit the 3
@faraway5828
@faraway5828 10 ай бұрын
That's the way to look after your existing customers
@branosh
@branosh 10 ай бұрын
SLR2 was a pice of shit as intercom definitive not close to Cardo Packtalk. so disaponited
@flexywing
@flexywing 10 ай бұрын
@@branosh Tell me more, I was very confused about which unit to get, and yes the sales man was good, but always open to learn more
@Theliftman100
@Theliftman100 10 ай бұрын
But the Srl 3 has allegedly got Harmon speakers and the Srl 2 speakers are at best disappointing
@roadglide
@roadglide 10 ай бұрын
I use Nitrile gloves to install your Pin-Lock. So much easier to ensure no finger prints.
@vtwin6683
@vtwin6683 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for a grreat review. Having had a Multitec, Neotec and currently a Neotec2 this will be the natural progression for me 👍
@giorgiolodola3243
@giorgiolodola3243 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant review, providing great information really makes a difference when choosing such an important piece of biking kit 👏
@nibbit1969
@nibbit1969 5 ай бұрын
What a great review! So glad i bought this helmet! i big thanks for that!
@JayBe79
@JayBe79 10 ай бұрын
Another great (and as is so important) unbiased review, thanks John.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@jimmarshall807
@jimmarshall807 10 ай бұрын
Great review, looks like an excellent lid as usual from Shoei. One great thing about the Neotec 3 is the deal you can get on the last of the Neotec 2s .... which I did a couple of months ago!
@colemaynard5103
@colemaynard5103 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for an excellent and comprehensive review. Just back from a bike rally where someone managed to drive a car over my Neotech II !!! So, now looking to replace it quickly and your review has helped me with that decision.
@dmvlad
@dmvlad 10 ай бұрын
Very nice review. You covered all the bases
@davidholden2658
@davidholden2658 10 ай бұрын
I've had two Neotecs (one got damaged in a crash) and currently use a Neotec II. I'm looking at replacing it next year as it's getting old now and this will definitely be top of the list. Thanks for the excellent review.
@ronroccolarosa5575
@ronroccolarosa5575 5 ай бұрын
Very well done video on both neotechs! Informational & valuable Thank You!
@thewoodster8607
@thewoodster8607 10 ай бұрын
This is great content, John. IMHO you do the best unbiased reviews of kit and bikes, along with Simon Hargreaves!! I have my eye on one of these.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much - that's really kind of you! All the best, John
@kubicafan6048
@kubicafan6048 10 ай бұрын
Great review! Thanks for the excellent review.
@paulgibson490
@paulgibson490 10 ай бұрын
I have used Shoei flip fronts since they came out now using Neotec 2 I find I get steaming up at low temperature with vents closed, to stop this I put 8 or 10 3mm holes in the chin skirt and this cures the problem without increasing the draught. These helmets are the best I have used thanks for a great review.
@user-bc5vz3yg1u
@user-bc5vz3yg1u 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant review - on launch day - thank you
@destinationyonder9752
@destinationyonder9752 10 ай бұрын
Thank you sir! Your time is impeccable! I'm about to change the WROST helmet i've ever had (Schuberth C5) and i was going for the Neotec... and this was perfect! Already called my pusher!
@flexywing
@flexywing 10 ай бұрын
No the worst was the C4, and I got one with coms too, so we'll pissed the the C5 would not take them
@vintagegentleman2946
@vintagegentleman2946 4 ай бұрын
Excellent comprehensive review! Thank you!!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 4 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@MotoGoato
@MotoGoato 10 ай бұрын
Cracking review, very informative and comprehensive. Nice work!! After over 25 years of riding I finally got my first Shoei earlier this year, an NXR2. By far the best quality, best fitting and most comfortable helmet I've ever owned ... also the most expensive. Guess you get what you pay for .....
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much!
@elizabethwonders
@elizabethwonders 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review and information here! Thank you. I like to turn my head to see what’s around me before changing lanes. So, for now, I’ll stick to my Arai Corsair. ❤😊
@JimGoryeb
@JimGoryeb 10 ай бұрын
Great review! When discussing helmet weight, it should be said that the Schuberth C5 weight includes the weight of the built in com speakers which most riders will add. So it’s weight advantage over the Shoei will increase.
@RossisuchtdasGlueck
@RossisuchtdasGlueck 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Great Review and helps me definitely to make a decision! Greets from Germany
@chrisporter7694
@chrisporter7694 10 ай бұрын
Great review, always informative and relevant, even from the other side of the Globe. Thanks
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@pd6569
@pd6569 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for all you do for our motorcycle community, greatly appreciate all of your efforts. I have a Neotec II and like you, wear glasses and condensation is a concern. And like you, I keep it cracked open to the first position although during occasion, I wish there was a second, more open position, but after the first click, it rattles and is disconcerting. Be and ride safe.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! The Neotec 3 is a definite improvement. Cheers, John
@ruudruud8758
@ruudruud8758 10 ай бұрын
My Neotec 2 is getting a bit loose after more than 100K km, so I was waiting for this. It seems it is now finally possible to open the visor by just a small gap. Great when you wear glasses and commute in foul weather as you are demonstrating. Thank for the review John!
@stocks7765
@stocks7765 10 ай бұрын
Just change the cheek pads and your good to go.....
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! As @stocks7765 says, you could replace the cheek pads in the Neotec 2 to potentially improve the fit, but if you can afford it, the Neotec 3 is a genuinely worthy upgrade. All the best, John
@roadglide
@roadglide 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful piece of essential, no critical equipment. Nice job John. Can’t wait until they get here to the US.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 2 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@FREE_PUREBLOOD333
@FREE_PUREBLOOD333 10 ай бұрын
Great review as always John. I have a Shoei Neotech 2 with SRL2 Comms. I've only had it for several months so I'm still enjoying it a lot. I will definitely look at the Neotech3 when it's time to replace my helmet.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3!
@DucatiMTS1200
@DucatiMTS1200 10 ай бұрын
Excellent and comprehensive - great end to end review mate. I'm going to get one but first I need to save £'s for a while longer. Many thanks, Wm..
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! John
@robertwilson54
@robertwilson54 20 күн бұрын
This was a fantastic review thank you, I have a neotec 2 and find it very good
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 20 күн бұрын
Thanks very much! All the best, John
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review!
@NodbodRS
@NodbodRS 10 ай бұрын
Interesting. Worn Arai for 38 years, nil probs. Rx7V evo bought feb this year, felt fine in shop, riding, felt like head in a tight vice. Gave up with it an tried a shoei xspr pro, Wow night an day comfort all day long, absolutely love it.
@tolgaakyay
@tolgaakyay 10 ай бұрын
I was actually planning to purchase a Neotec 2 and pass my Nexx Vilitur helmet to my wife. First time heard the 3rd edition. Definitely will look out for it.
@bikingwithgrantygrant779
@bikingwithgrantygrant779 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic review I love my neotec 2 and have been waiting for the 3. I did wonder what the difference would be as I thought the neotec 2 was and still is a good quality helmet. Had my neotec 2 for a year and a half so maybe something I get next year. Love the reviews and thank you
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! Cheers, John
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 Ай бұрын
I stopped riding for a period between 2018 and 2024 and was silly enough to leave my Neotec 2 in the shed in my very very hot home country. I actually gave it to my gardener when i gave him my NMAX but he diskt want it and so left it behind. When i asked him about it because i wanted to know the size he dug it out of the shed. The helmet was purchased in 2016 I think. By 2024 the entire interior lining had disintegrated, i mean a pile of dust and nothing more. I was going to buy a new liner and use it as a spare. This channel has educated me to just discard it. The styrofoam seems 100%, so does the outer layer. But seeming ok and being ok can be vastly different. How many of you have thogjt about replacing your helmet due to age?
@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc
@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc 8 ай бұрын
Excellent review, thanks!
@shl23uk
@shl23uk 9 ай бұрын
As a fellow Glasses wearer (with anti glare) and Neotec 2 owner, I use the muc-off anti mist product to clean my specs before going for a ride, but be careful to buff them well or they can smear. Using the same product on the inside of the visor also helps. There are a couple of old tricks from days prior to visor products... 1. Use a fine smear of dishwashing liquid on your specs and buff to remove smears, use the same on the inside of the visor. This works, but does not last long. 2. Use spray on furniture polish on the outside of the visor. This is outstanding at making water bead and clear from the visor. I think there is silicon in the polish that allows this to happen, but again, always buff well after application as it can cause smears and riding at night a bit twinkly with oncoming headlights.
@MarkJYule
@MarkJYule 10 ай бұрын
Brilliant review❤ Looking at an additional lid that's more town and shop friendly - PITA doing the glove and helmet juggling with my NXR2. Love and trust Shoei since getting my 1st - a Wakai rep' X8-R.
@user-tb3zh5ir5j
@user-tb3zh5ir5j 10 ай бұрын
Although BBS is a commercial driven enterprise i have to say no other insurer goes as far to improve the safety, quality of kit and sometimes great bike reviews as Bennetts do. You all deserve so much kudos for the way you go about your work and the benefit to us riders when sharing your knowledge and experience. Michael Mann may have got the project off the ground but he , you and other colleagues need to take a collective bow to the invisible applause i suspect many bikers like me would give you ...given the chance. Well done John to you and all the team.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thank you SO much for this. It's our MD, Vince, who really deserves the praise though for giving us the tools to do this! All the very best, John
@rchrisg
@rchrisg 10 ай бұрын
Very informative. Thank you very much.
@loblolly777
@loblolly777 10 ай бұрын
Great review. Looks like they have addressed two of the three main issues I have with the Neotec 2. No ability to open the visor a crack, and the sunshield doesn't quite come down far enough. The other is fitment of a non Sena system and that looks about the same. From a marketing perspective I get it, but it is annoying that helmet manufacturers tie themselves to a brand rather than configuring helmets for communications more generically.
@timhenry6403
@timhenry6403 10 ай бұрын
Great video and so well done. Just subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to future videos 👍🏼
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! Cheers, John
@AleksiJoensuu
@AleksiJoensuu 10 ай бұрын
You do such excellent reviews. I've said it in previous comments, but I worked in riding gear retail for many years and these are exactly the kind of ideas I picked up over that time. Things like weight vs aerodynamics for example, the fitting advice, the noise levels vs fairings and earplugs, all good stuff. I also always offered to help install the pinlocks that came with helmets and instructed customers pretty much exactly the same way you do - many don't ever even realize the eccentric pinlock pins. Remembering that is also good, since if the insert loosens over time, the silicon seal between the insert and the main visor can start to leak. When it does, moist air will get between the layers, and then even the best ventilation won't get in and demist your vision. One thing I would add is that the pinlock insert is a very soft material, so I always recommended to never use coarse stuff like kitchen paper towels. In fact, because the insert is hydrophilic, it's practically impossible to wipe it dry anyway, so it's best to just dab it with a soft cloth and then air dry it. A Shoei replacement pinlock is about 40€, so keeping it scratchless saves a bit of money. I always felt the Neotec II was an excellent helmet! What I would have liked to see was Shoei looking into slight improvements to the chin bar closure. As it was it was already extremely good, but having fitted it to probably hundreds of heads, in *some* cases the chin bar might not fully lock on both sides. Most commonly this could happen with customers with quite wide faces, and/or if the customer was a little bit "timid" in closing the bar. The bar would be extremely reliable if either one used both hands to close it, supporting the helmet from behind while closing with the other hand, *or* if one was brisk enough with one hand, closing it in one quick motion that made the engagement of the latches positive. A hesitant motion with some people might leave the latch on one side unengaged. To be absolutely clear, the Neotec was no worse in this than any other helmet. Some other helmets I've seen even had enough flex in the chin bar as to allow either of the latches to entirely miss the tab on one side. It's just that I feel this is a really important part of modular helmets, so it should be as reliable as possible.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for this, and good call on the Pinlock drying. Yes - I've had some modular lids that needed a positive lock. The Neotec 3 is very good (as is the AGV Tour Modular I found). All the best, John
@AleksiJoensuu
@AleksiJoensuu 10 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Heh, thank you! I feel like a parrot because I get to say this sort of stuff in nearly every video. I've also loved the industry exposes and testing content, they are absolutely mint stuff. My last year in retail I must have been an odd salesperson who just goes off on rants and tangents on a myriad of topics about ECE standards, fits, earplugs, visor materials, waterproof liner construction techniques and care strategies and ohh what not. :D
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
@@AleksiJoensuu It's a relief to know that there are people out there who have the buyers' backs - who will help them when it comes to choosing what's best for them, so thank YOU!
@AleksiJoensuu
@AleksiJoensuu 10 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial Kind of the same thing I said about you folks, like "You make videos as if you'd make more money if customers would be safer and happier so they could ride more! Aha!" It's the same thing in retail. Sure, some might be after a quick buck, but honestly people get into biking for a long time if they're safe and enjoy it, and they will remember who served them well. My favourites were the customers who came in with absolutely destroyed helmets and gear, but still walking on their own feet. Had a tiny wisp of a young woman come in once. She was a semi-pro drag racer. Walked up and said "I crashed in a race last week. Bike is mangled, this helmet is absolutely wrecked, the ambulance crew had to cut off the leather suit you guys sold me. But all I have is this small bruise on my right knee. So I need another set for next race season. I think the neck brace is still fine."
@Defrag1978
@Defrag1978 10 ай бұрын
I'm running an original Neotec and it's been a great helmet and still remains comfortable. This sounds like a great future replacement.
@halan236
@halan236 10 ай бұрын
Me too, but it has expired YEARS ago and needs to be replaced.
@DukeDyson
@DukeDyson 10 ай бұрын
Quality review as ever 🙂
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@tonydavis5053
@tonydavis5053 10 ай бұрын
When only the Best will do!
@gac1579
@gac1579 10 ай бұрын
Just ordered one can’t wait to have it in hand 😊
@wiwwee1
@wiwwee1 5 ай бұрын
The main competition is HJC RPHA 91. Value for money. The way the chin bar pulls close into the helmet when open is brilliant. The multi adjustable sun visor is great and spare parts like new cheek pads in few years will be cheaper as well. Quiet and comfortable.
@alienbiker5036
@alienbiker5036 10 ай бұрын
Great info thanks will go for the gt air 3
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Will have the review out for that as soon as poss. Cheers, John
@magpiemale
@magpiemale 6 ай бұрын
Good review esp about water leakage which I have had in other good lids...
@a.r.t.4611
@a.r.t.4611 10 ай бұрын
Bought a silver and orange Neotec 2 last year. They are expensive helmets, but excellent in every way. You get what you pay for.
@bobbryne8072
@bobbryne8072 10 ай бұрын
Regarding anti-fog for your specs, my optician recommended using Hoya Clear-it Anti-fog wipes. Contrary to what the name implies, it isn't a pack of wipes but a single cloth treated with something or other to stop glasses fogging. It costs about £5 or £6. The optician said it should last a few months, but I've been using mine for over a year and it's still doing it's job. I always clean my glasses first with a good cleaner, then breathe on the lens, give it a wipe with the Hoya cloth, treat each side of each lens. The treatment lasts the full day, and continues working the following day providing I've not had to clean the lens again.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Excellent, thanks!
@charlielacroix521
@charlielacroix521 10 ай бұрын
Try Foggy Wipes. I’m a glasses wearer and it’s been a game changer for me.
@michael-masi-2021
@michael-masi-2021 Ай бұрын
Hoya make filters for photographic lenses. They KNOW glass.
@booshallmighty
@booshallmighty 10 ай бұрын
Very important to try before buy. I tried a Shouberth c5 and it felt like a torture device. The worst hemet in the shop. The one i did manage to get on my head (pain free), was too big. Getting the Shoie neo tec2 was a no brainer for me. I'm not loyal to brands, for me it just felt right.
@sootylum
@sootylum 9 ай бұрын
Good review thanks.
@hartley383
@hartley383 10 ай бұрын
Great review as always. Good to see that Shoei has addressed some of the shortcomings of the 2. The drop-down visor coverage was poor and I’ve found that I get a draft and therefore noise too just below my ear, hopefully new interior has cured that. One area that I think they have definitely missed is the pinlock coverage, still protects a lot less of the visor than some others, HJC are particularly good at this. My Neotec 2 also seems to hoover up bugs and invites them to tap dance on the top of my head. I’ve mod’d mine but a fly screen would have been good.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much! How did you mod your lid? Cheers, John
@hartley383
@hartley383 10 ай бұрын
Hi John ,using the below vid removed the top vent a put a bit of mesh from a bug net between the vent and the helmet. Works a treat but obviously cleaning it is going to be a bit of a ball ache. Paul m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aslziLhm2qypgWw.html&pp=ygUMTmVvdGVjIDIgYnVn
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
@@hartley383 This is brilliant, thank you!
@MrBurrrG
@MrBurrrG 6 ай бұрын
I notice on shoei website they have added an insect filter, not sure if it helps enough tho
@daza3620
@daza3620 3 күн бұрын
I have this lid in the blue, I ride all year round and its by far the best helmet I have had in 10 years of riding.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 3 күн бұрын
Fantastic! All the best, John
@gingerelvis
@gingerelvis 10 ай бұрын
I opened my Google news feed today and saw 3 articles in a single scroll on this lid today, obviously the NDA cleared today! I knew I was only going to check out the Johns review. Looks like a cracking helmet, I'm not arsed with the flip front, generally prefer a fixed chin guard but a lot of features I like are found in flip fronts, the GT Air 3 sounds very tempting. Sadly a bit of a stretch on my budget but we will see.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much! Cheers, John
@Kornholeeoo
@Kornholeeoo 9 ай бұрын
My shop doesn’t have these in yet. So I just updated the software on the Sena in my Neotec II and just Ride That Thang!
@leerenton9392
@leerenton9392 10 ай бұрын
Another great review cheers, just a note on antifog sprays. I use muc off premium anti fog treatment on my specs, and fing it works even though I have anti glare on them. I was dubious at first as it's £10 ish for a 32 ml bottle, but, having only bought 2 bottles in 3 years I can't complain. And my wife and kids use it. My specs generally need cleaning before it wears off, so no idea how long it would last for. Also I find the spray puts far too much on, you end up wiping loads of excess off, so now I just moisten a cloth and wipe on. Once applied leave a few mins then buff off any excess. Give it a try. Cheers Lee
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Excellent - thanks! Added to the list for a product test video
@shegocrazy
@shegocrazy 10 ай бұрын
I move from the Shark to the AGV because I developed a neck problem and the AGV was much lighter. It makes a difference if you have compromised cervical bones!
@cyclechris6591
@cyclechris6591 4 ай бұрын
I left shoei for the hjc rpha 90s carbon because of weight. After a few hours, I couldn’t wait to get that shoei off. 4 plus lbs verses 3.3. We need to push shoei to offer a carbon model and pay attention to weight otherwise they will keep getting more heavy. The shoei is more plush but the hjc is totally comfortable, like a c3 pro feels.
@Jim-Bob_Adventures
@Jim-Bob_Adventures 10 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you
@andyhorsfall9394
@andyhorsfall9394 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this review. A few months ago i bought two neotec 2's plus intercoms for me and my wife after watching reviews etc, I'd rate them as ok apart from intercom is a bit annoying, keeps cutting out mid conversation telling me to 'say a command' and has to be reset..also they weren't cheap ..so imagine my joy at hearing that this helmet neo 3 is 'better in every way than the neotec 2' ..i think I'll leave reviews alone for a while and just go with what i fancy 😄
@43tubularbells
@43tubularbells 10 ай бұрын
Mine does that all the time. I just say CANCEL to return to the com. It can be quite annoying. Some days it does it more than others.
@tg8150
@tg8150 10 ай бұрын
I am a Shoei fanboy. I’ve got an RF-SR, RF-1400, and a Neotec 2. My fave is the RF-SR. It is the lightest, vents the best, and most comfortable. Honestly, I find the Neotec to be very clunky. The new HJC RPHA is the best modular atm.
@Getting-On
@Getting-On 10 ай бұрын
Another excellent and honest review. I have the Neotec 2 and do not like the SENA comms, and stated I would not buy another Shoei if they continue to deal with Sena, so thats a disappointment.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
That's a shame, though you can always fit your own comms. Cheers, John
@Getting-On
@Getting-On 10 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial i had nothing but trouble with the Sena SRL, keep failing, multiple replacements then the poor quality audio and constant freezing/crashing. Pitta;y as I really likes Shoei, they should offer comms from multiple vendors not lock into just one vendor.
@boatnz5374
@boatnz5374 10 ай бұрын
I had the SRL 2 (in a gt air 2)they were junk coms, distortion, clicking when using intercom etc...I changed to the SRL mesh it's much better so far. @@Getting-On
@deusmorthem441
@deusmorthem441 10 ай бұрын
For sorting out fogging of glasses, try the "The Body Doctor AB Mask Anti-Fog Cloth", found at Boots, Superdrug etc. I was struggling with fog, but each time I ride, give the lenses a wipe with this, and at least for the day I have no issues. Important to follow directions (mist the lens, and then wipe) for longer lasting effect. Thanks for the great content, ride safe.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks! Have just ordered one...
@calbrock6302
@calbrock6302 10 ай бұрын
Cheers!!! I struggle with my specs fogging so I’ll give this a go
@deusmorthem441
@deusmorthem441 10 ай бұрын
@@calbrock6302 no prob, hope it works well for you. 👌🏼
@brianperry
@brianperry 10 ай бұрын
l bought the original Neotec, l found in it comfortable to wear. On the basis of being happy with it l invested in the Neotec 2. Also the intercom system that l thought was brilliant because its not 'sticking out' in the slipstream causing noise but fitting flush to the contour of the helmet.. the shell was narrower than the original even though it was the same size ...(Medium)...so that was a bonus feature. l always wear ear-plugs ...the Alpine variety, so wind noise is pretty well non-existent .... The Shoei Neotec is a premium product. The new 3 can only be more advanced, if only in minor ways...
@iandlv6835
@iandlv6835 10 ай бұрын
Great review. I believe that comments about noise are likely to be because the lid hasn’t been fitted with the right interior padding. Get yours fitted by an expert helmet fitter and you should get a very quiet lid.
@welshwookie
@welshwookie 7 ай бұрын
I bought a Neotec 3 in anthracite metallic gloss from Moto Legends ….it is a bloody amazing lid , drop dead gorgeous in this colour and the new Sena SRL3 is a massive improvement over the SRL2 fitted in my GT AIR 2. It’s so well assembled using premium materials and is extremely quiet ( riding a Pan America and Fat Bob 117 ) , yes it’s an expensive but as with all the top helmets out there , you pay for quality.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 7 ай бұрын
Excellent! Really glad you're getting on well with it. Cheers, John
@ianmott856
@ianmott856 10 ай бұрын
Great review. Just purchased a Neotec 2 with SRL Mesh for £599 seems that deals are available with the release of the Neotec 3
@mickhep
@mickhep 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the review, is the eyeport any bigger..???? as thats my main gripe with helmets.
@ZediMaster
@ZediMaster 10 ай бұрын
Awesome vid. Ride safe, god bless u.
@2wheelsrbest327
@2wheelsrbest327 10 ай бұрын
Another great review John. I actually had a Neotec 2 multi coloured so not cheap & liked it. But decided to go " cool " brought a Harley so brought an open faced. Two bad moves there and the Harley & helmet both got sold very quickly. Now back on a GS but being a cheap skate I recently brought a C4 Pro from cut price on line seller. Its proven to be another mistake as having only worn it a couple of times not feeling comfortable. Might mean a NT3 multicoloured Christmas present to myself then John. Ted
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear that, but it's a process we all go through! All the best, John
@Ceberbike
@Ceberbike 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, that's all
@Stratocasterhead51
@Stratocasterhead51 10 ай бұрын
If youve never tried a flip up helmet, they are fantastic. You can still do sporty riding,, very low windnoise, and the ability to full open at the lights for more air is just amazing. 2 Niggles with the Neotec 2, there is no city visor opening position, where it lets just a whistle of air through. And the fact that they have built it specifically for SENA units is a big downer.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
The Neotec 3 visor rectifies that, but the OEM comms are still Sena. Still, if you want different you can get it on there. Cheers, John
@HumbleBum76
@HumbleBum76 10 ай бұрын
In regards to your anti-fog quandry on your glasses with the anti-glare coating John - Revision Anti-Fog Wipes, i have been using them religiously since i started Airsoft (wearing face protection + ghillie suit + glasses) and suffer no fog anymore, but do note you can STILL get condensation build up in the right circumstances, although much less common of a thing on a motorcycle where you've got good airflow, as opposed to laying in a bush for half hour at a time. Simply clean your glasses, wipe them over with the wipe, outside and inside, and off you go! Re-apply after every clean, and you can re-use the wipes as many as 30 or so times before they become ineffective. Hope this helps.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Cheers! I did used to have some anti-fog I used for airsoft too, but ended up using contact lenses. All the best, John
@KT-GoNavy
@KT-GoNavy 10 ай бұрын
Great review. Crap JUST bought my Neotec last week and didn’t realize the 3 was released although I still don’t see it on Shoei’s US website. 😢
@davidwinfield-bennett7071
@davidwinfield-bennett7071 10 ай бұрын
excellent reviews
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@piotrb6410
@piotrb6410 10 ай бұрын
Great honest review as always. I'm currently using the Shoei GT Air 2 and AGV Sportmodular. I've fitted the Sena SRL2 intercom and I like how well it fits. My next helmet was probably going to be the Neotec 3 but I'm a bit disappointed that Shoei had to redesign the intercom, as that might put off some of the potential customers. Have you made a similar video about the AGV Sportmodular? I'd be interested to hear your opinion since you mentioned it disappointed you.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Shoei has just announced that there will soon be SRL 2 adaptor plate that will allow owners of the previous Neotec 2's comms to use it with the new Neotec 3! I really wasn't a fan of the Sportmodular when I reviewed it, but did find the Tourmodular to be good: www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/helmets/agv-tourmodular-flipfront-helmet-review
@roberts.1400
@roberts.1400 10 ай бұрын
Still using my Neotec 1 original version. I bought new linings and cheek pads and it's like brand new again ... I do not like the proprietary intercom setup on the later versions. I have a Sena 10S and it still works wonderfully all day long. Spending significantly more money to get a marginal (seems to me) upgrade makes no sense at the moment. If I have an incident where as the helmet gets damaged then maybe the 3 will be in my future but for now the 1 looks like new (sort of) and it'll be my daily riders for years to come 👍🏼 Thanks for the video though 😹
@Theliftman100
@Theliftman100 10 ай бұрын
I have two Neotec 2’s and have just brought a Neotec 3 and first impressions are its SO much better. The fit is better, the internal sun visor seems huge compared to the old one, all the seals around the bottom sit closer. Well worth the upgrade.. Only thing that really annoys me and it was the same for the 2 is new helmet launch but another two months for the coms apparently
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
That's great to hear (apart from the comms delay of course!). Cheers, John
@Theliftman100
@Theliftman100 10 ай бұрын
I will edit my comment about coms I’ve just ordered them from the very shop that 2 days ago said 2 months…. Who knows…………..
@jvl4832
@jvl4832 10 ай бұрын
Excellent review…considering the new EC safety standard-06 , the larger sun-visor , better Polsters to an already comfortable,plush interior, etc, an improvement over my Neotec2. I wonder if you can replace the neotec 2 sun-visor (too short) with the neotec 3 sun-visor? Probably not…if I were to buy a new helmet, I would definitely go for the extra money, since the neotec 3 has the latest safety standard. The Schubert is also a great helmet and depending on head shape usually one or the other will fit more comfortably.
@karlwilliams1866
@karlwilliams1866 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for an honest review. I'm still using my original Neotec and will need to replace it next year; the Neotec 3 is top of my list. I prefer the Sena 50S to the integrated systems and found it easy to mount on my gen 1 Neotec; will it also clamp onto the new model? I also wear glasses and find the Zeiss Anti-Fog Kit works reasonably well, but you have to use it sparingly and be careful to avoid smears.
@wingandhog
@wingandhog 10 ай бұрын
I’m sure the Neotec 3 will be great. I own the RF-1400 and NeoTec II that I just bought a few months ago. I will be happy with both for the next 5 years or so. Just a side note: I do have a SENA 30K mount on both my Shoei helmets. It was a fairly easy install on the RF-1400 but a bitch to install on the NeoTec II. Why helmet manufacturers like Shoei can’t or won’t make some sort of universal mounting location that can accommodate legacy comm gear is beyond my pay-grade. Seems more like Shoei \ SENA collusion more than anything else.
@pcat1378
@pcat1378 8 ай бұрын
FINALLY, Shoei have sorted out the bloody visor and finally being able to just pop it open. Why did it take this long Shoei!!
@lakesbiker7286
@lakesbiker7286 9 ай бұрын
I've got a SHOEI heed and my last two lids were neotecs (1st gen) so was interested to see if the neotec 3 was any good as wasn't a fan of the neotec 2 ...just didnt seem to gel with it. This new Neotec3 looks like a worthy upgrade although my neotec still feels plush next to alot of other makes and models of helmet inc. my newish Xlite carbon flip up ( can be ridden with the chin piece up unlike the shoei) which is nice but not the quality of the Shoei. I look forward to trying a Neotec 3 on! Thanks for the in-depth review 😁👍🏍🏁
@001dres
@001dres 10 ай бұрын
I bought the Neotech 2 for a good price. The Cardo boom does not fit flush in the boom gap, making the padding pop out it’s tab. Not a problem with the helmet on, but it is visable when it is of.
@petea1663
@petea1663 5 ай бұрын
Cracking review as ever - Any problems with draughtiness in this lid?
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 5 ай бұрын
Cheers! Not that I've found
@UpsideDownFork
@UpsideDownFork 10 ай бұрын
John Milbank content is at the very top of the youtube pile!
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Thanks very much - that's really kind! Cheers, John
@philipTOMPSETT
@philipTOMPSETT 10 ай бұрын
Mrs Milbank seems a great laugh too. Ideal dinner guests I reckon.👍🏼👍🏼
@michaeldobson8859
@michaeldobson8859 2 ай бұрын
I take his reviews with a grain of salt, because they are always opinion based or at best technician based. Nothing wrong but there is little empirical data behind his “findings” and that weakens it for me sometimes.
@UpsideDownFork
@UpsideDownFork 2 ай бұрын
@@michaeldobson8859 Still better than the rest...
@Inthewind24
@Inthewind24 10 ай бұрын
Been holding off getting a new lid till this came out. Looking forward to seeing them in the US in about 18 months probably…
@sonny_z900
@sonny_z900 10 ай бұрын
I'm almost ready to get a new helmet, coming of a Schuberth C3 pro Classic red I'm drawn to the TC-5. Looking at a lot of video's of shoei or schuberth makes me think they are not similar head form wise. Would you think the Neotec 3 is a good replacement for my Schuberth or should I stay with schuberth?
@bobharris5759
@bobharris5759 10 ай бұрын
Another great review John, wife and I both wear a Neotec 2. Can I persuade her to update……??????
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 10 ай бұрын
Thanks from Oztraylier Geezer. Got my Neotec2 a couple of months back, but keep wearing my open face lid I've used for a couple of years. Just fond a Cardo packtalk bold and have found a 3D print plan to adapt to the Neotec2 :D
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Do you have a link to the STL file?
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 10 ай бұрын
Added the link last night, don't know why it's not there this morning. Sick as a dog and still at work. Oh well, at least sun is shining. Get back to you later today geezer
@infeedel7706
@infeedel7706 10 ай бұрын
Three times I've tried but the tubepolice have foiled my good intent. :( So I emailed you ;)
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
@@infeedel7706 This is the second time I've tried! Thanks so much for sending it to me, so let's see if it'll work now: www.printables.com/@BoA_36226
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
Just in case my second attempt at posting the link fails, the STL files are on the Printables website, under 'mount for shoei helmets'@@infeedel7706
@davidp5110
@davidp5110 9 ай бұрын
Great review. I'm using an original Neotec - it's not that old, I bought it after the Neotec II came out! - and am now looking at buying a 3.... my question is, given that my own Neotec is a perfect fit, am I safe to assume that if I buy a 3 in the same size online, it will fit equally well? (I don't live anywhere near a dealer so would be convenient...)
@chrisdagnall8666
@chrisdagnall8666 10 ай бұрын
Nice review and a nice helmet. Will there become a point when retailers will not be able to sell 22.05 helmets they may have left over in stock?
@gbner9991
@gbner9991 10 ай бұрын
What I'm most looking forward to is their 22-06 version of the Hornet ADV. I wonder if it will have a flip-down sunvisor.
@BMWworldstickers
@BMWworldstickers 9 ай бұрын
Excellent
@risenphoenixkai
@risenphoenixkai 10 ай бұрын
I just got a new Neotec 2 a little less than two years ago, so it'll be a while before I'm in the market for one of these. My girlfriend's Neotec 2 is a lot older than mine, and the Neotec 3 sounds like a great update overall, so it won't take much convincing for her to get one. We both live in New Zealand, so I'm guessing the Neotec 3 won't be available here until early 2024, and it'll be at a "sell your spare kidney" price point.
@BySixa
@BySixa 10 ай бұрын
When you test how long does the helmet spend on your head to break in before you make judgements? I've purchased my first helmet - arai quantic 2206 varient (your review was fantastic by the way) - it felt amazing in store but my cheeks ache very quickly after putting it on at home. I was reading it will be because it's new and needs softened up so curious if this break in period is included in your reviews? Thought being subjective feel could be swayed if the materials are just new and tight
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
I'll judge it on first impressions, then as it changes. To be honest, they rarely really change much through use. This was comfortable from the off, and remains it after more than 1,000 miles now
@ClipperUK2008
@ClipperUK2008 10 ай бұрын
Great review as ever. You mentioned the latch mechanism testing - do you have any other details on that, is it a new requirement for ECE 22.06? Have Shoei mentioned improving it since the Neotec 2? I mention it as SHARP tested the Neotec 2 and it only got 70% for latch staying closed under impact. Whilst they don't test the latch explicitly they do note how many times it opened/failed on the impacts. That means on 35 impacts it opened on 9 or 10 or them. As a result I bought an Evo One 2 instead and its replacement (if the latch is similar) is likely to be an Evo GT even though the Shoei helmet is more plush.
@bennettsbikesocial
@bennettsbikesocial 10 ай бұрын
I don't have any more info I'm afraid. Tony covered this in more depth in his excellent video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8qGoK573ZrTpo0.htmlsi=Icsn7byvfFlDMakS
@ClipperUK2008
@ClipperUK2008 10 ай бұрын
@@bennettsbikesocial thanks John that gave me exactly what I needed. Well it wasn't good news as such but at least it added some detail. I think I'll wait for further info from SHARP once they are back on track - I believe they paused/halted testing while 22.06 came in. To be honest it would be nice if ECE tests covered latches coming undone in impacts as it is pretty important as it turns your full face into an open face if it fails.
@janbrittenson210
@janbrittenson210 10 ай бұрын
The only thing wrong to me with my Neotec II is the visor - that I can't just ever so slightly crack it, and that the tab is on the left side. Might encourage me to retire the II a little earlier than I otherwise would. Not a fan of the pinlock insert, I too wear glasses and with it installed there are just too many glass surfaces. I only get a little bit of fogging ever when stopped and that's easily managed by opening the visor to the first detent, which is also fine at low speeds though a minimal crack would be even better. But I also don't use the nose deflector, if it's hot and I want air on my face I'll just open the visor.
@user-rt4zj9tz4q
@user-rt4zj9tz4q 4 ай бұрын
Do you have any problem with condensation? I’ve ridden with with the Neotec 3 for about a month now, since the beginning of February. The condensation is terrible. The visor outside the Pinlock visor quickly gets covered in a heavy layer of moisture which can’t be seen through. The Pinlock visor is too small, so the areas of peripheral vision are completely blocked. The sun visor and my glasses both mist up very quickly. I had to ride with the visor open a couple of clicks to keep my vision clear. Apart from that, it’s a lovely helmet. It’s very comfortable and quiet. It just a pity I can’t see anything!
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