Benny's Plan Would Have Never Worked

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yaboiii

yaboiii

Жыл бұрын

The instigator of the entire events of Fallout New Vegas rests in the hands of Benny. After shooting the Courier to obtain the Platinum Chip, Benny undertakes his master plan to usurp control of Vegas into his hands. Through our actions, his plan can be foiled or made into our own. But could Benny have ever succeeded in his bid to lay claim to the Mojave?
The answer is no. Let's found out why.
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@hallamhal
@hallamhal Жыл бұрын
The Courier can complete the Yes Man ending because they're a wildcard, whereas House is aware of Benny's motives. Even if Benny infiltrates Caesars Legion and gets the platinum chip online, House knows he wants to usurp him and can easily stop him
@RyuusanFT86
@RyuusanFT86 Жыл бұрын
He also knows he's dogshit in a fight
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodgr1234
@yourfriendlyneighborhoodgr1234 Жыл бұрын
The joys of being an computer i suppose
@docsorrows1088
@docsorrows1088 Жыл бұрын
He could just open the security door and send out the sentry bots and protectrons
@spiritorange8325
@spiritorange8325 Жыл бұрын
@@docsorrows1088 But he would never do that for the exact same reasons why he didn’t do that to the omertas
@CrashHeadroom
@CrashHeadroom Жыл бұрын
And that's why the house always wins... well atleast until a glorified mailman comes past with lead in his head >_
@coleblack8577
@coleblack8577 Жыл бұрын
Deceitful people rarely have the ability to trust others. In Benny's case he had so many ways to succeed, working with House long enough to access the Lucky 38, aligning with other factions like the NCR temporarily to fight against House, even employing the courier. He failed and would have always failed because he backstabs everyone that could have been useful to him.
@Gamer-ry6xy
@Gamer-ry6xy Жыл бұрын
That's why he's a fink
@mediocremenace4566
@mediocremenace4566 Жыл бұрын
I heard that he was partially based on Bugsy Siegel a gangster that was killed for his lack of loyalty (aka not paying his off his loans)
@usgatlas2085
@usgatlas2085 Жыл бұрын
He reminds me of Dimitri Rascalov, who constantly betrays anyone who he's been in contact with since he cares so much about survival of the fittest.
@dragonfell5078
@dragonfell5078 Жыл бұрын
Literally House says he woulda made Benny his protege, he wouldn't even have needed to betray House to take control of the Strip
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul Жыл бұрын
The cut content really would have hammered that point home too: Even if you had freed him, he still can't comprehend being a partner in a greater scheme....
@briand5170
@briand5170 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that Benny was discovered in the fort simply because he didn’t (or refused to) mess up his hair, a funny way to show a fatal flaw he had
@Gamer-ry6xy
@Gamer-ry6xy Жыл бұрын
Bruh moment
@BlakeFerret
@BlakeFerret Жыл бұрын
Is that actual canon or just assumed because his character model can't change?
@ricksang31
@ricksang31 Жыл бұрын
@@BlakeFerret Its in the canon, Caesar himself states that's the one reason why they caught him.
@christianweibrecht6555
@christianweibrecht6555 10 ай бұрын
Vanity
@TheatreStyle
@TheatreStyle Жыл бұрын
Very interesting analysis of Benny's chances, and I have to agree that there was probably no likely scenario of him coming out on top. But I also think there's a point that gets glossed over - the Courier screwed up Benny's time-table by confronting him. We don't actually know how or when he intended on using the platinum chip, and it seems likely that his failed attempt at infiltrating the Legion's basecamp was a very half-baked Plan B. One possible theory; Benny was waiting for the battle of Hoover Dam to make his move, when he would have the best chance of catching House off-guard and assassinating him, and that the Legion basecamp would be cleared out with Cesar either dead (from his brain tumor) or moved somewhere else. Then it wouldn't matter who won at Hooveer Dam, as the upgraded Securitons would mop up the victors.
@momino9024
@momino9024 Жыл бұрын
9:30 I think game always strongly implied that Yes-Man ending is an anarchist ending. Especially negative karma version, it basically say's: "Courier is a giant dick and he wants to see world burn".
@dont259
@dont259 Жыл бұрын
And how would Benny know of the brain tumor? Really coping here.
@egilsilfvenius6926
@egilsilfvenius6926 Жыл бұрын
@@dont259 i dont think the comment said he knew about the tumor
@flamesofchaos13
@flamesofchaos13 Жыл бұрын
@@momino9024 It's definitely an Anarchistic ending to things. How badly and what form it takes however are up to the player's choices and morality. Another factor in play is Yes Man becoming more assertive can be interpreted to mean more independent and perhaps dictatorial. It has more ambiguity then the other endings which makes sense it's literally called the Wild Card questline and No Gods No Masters ending. But it also has just as much room to degrade or improve as the other three endings. We see both the pros and cons of Mr House and NCR endings. Then the Legion has two forms of oppression to choose from and whether or not they'll actually be able to take the West. The Brotherhood has multiple fates within the region and without. The whole point is seemingly to leave the player with multiple interpretations and keep some mystery alive. Anyways even in worst case scenario of full scale anarchy of the entire Mojave area being fragmented and conflict rising...I have to ask is that inherently wrong? That seems to be the Natural state of the Wasteland. The series provides multiple examples of Humanity trying to build civilization only to make things worse not better. The entire reason the Wasteland even exists is the end result and radical extremism of the American Way of Life. Capitalism and Hierarchy that Mr House and the NCR support...Failed. Communism and Totalitarianism that the Legion has...Failed. Anarchy or Machine Rule might in fact be the legitimate progression of the Fallout world. It's something to consider at least.
@swiftspooner66
@swiftspooner66 Жыл бұрын
If Mr House already knew that Benny was plotting against them I couldn't imagine a better time for him to think that Benny would make his move then during the chaos of the second Battle of Hoover dam no way it would work at least not smoothly
@inurokuwarz
@inurokuwarz Жыл бұрын
Benny's biggest problem is that when a lady courior shows up and wants to get it on and *not* murder him, he's like "I'm going to go to the fort by myself" instead of "I should ask this crazy dame to go to the fort for me".
@Reipilled29
@Reipilled29 Жыл бұрын
what?
@wt4629
@wt4629 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the courier could’ve done Benny’s dirty work for him just like how the courier does everyone else’s dirty work.
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
@@wt4629 A "Courier helps Benny become king" ending would have been funny
@chrisriley2321
@chrisriley2321 Жыл бұрын
@@Reipilled29 if you play as a female character you can have sex with Benny. The original comment is saying that he could've used the Courier to get into the fort with her Mark of Caesar which allowed the Courier free access coming and going to the fort AND free walking around. As the video points out until you get to the rank of Frumentarii (or however you.spell it) you're pretty much under other officers and don't really get too much freedom of movement. But even they have to answer to the boss and the Legates like Lannius
@lostbutfreesoul
@lostbutfreesoul Жыл бұрын
@@Reipilled29 , There is the possibility of forgiving Benny, it leads to the same 'captured by Caesar' outcome. Once more showing that the character of Benny will never form alliances, and that is what kills him.
@PewTheToaster
@PewTheToaster Жыл бұрын
Now I wish we got the option to tell Benny at the fort: "Well well well, Looks like the game was rigged from the start." Maybe even make it a unique option if you have his pistol.
@shadowcween7890
@shadowcween7890 Жыл бұрын
From where you're kneeling, it looks like you've hit an 18 karat streak of bad luck. Truth is the game was rigged from the start.
@ArsonRaboot
@ArsonRaboot 2 ай бұрын
I'm more sad about the actual cut line: "Hey Benny, special delivery! "
@PG-jc8bz
@PG-jc8bz Жыл бұрын
Poor Benny. He just didn’t shoot too straight in life.
@PG-jc8bz
@PG-jc8bz Жыл бұрын
@Vermouth True lol
@bichlasagna9860
@bichlasagna9860 Жыл бұрын
Next time he should aim for the middle though
@oofcrafter8839
@oofcrafter8839 Жыл бұрын
he hit what he was aiming for, next time he should have brought a better caliber
@atadbitnefarious1387
@atadbitnefarious1387 Жыл бұрын
My favorite gunfighter quote is "keep shooting until the target changes shape or catches fire." This mostly refers to fighter planes and tanks, but it still applies. It highlights the idea that even if you hit your target, it doesn't mean they're dead. But to be fair, Benny wasn't counting on a rogue robot scooping the couriers body out of the grave and taking them to the nearby doctor who just so happens to be a competent brain surgeon.
@spiffygonzales5160
@spiffygonzales5160 Жыл бұрын
Hey may not have killed people the same way the Khans did... but he was still a fink
@barkbuck5521
@barkbuck5521 Жыл бұрын
Benny is definitely the most ballsy NPC in the game. Honestly he probably could have won if he could just get into House's doors, even if only for a little bit before a different power knocked him down. Shame to hear about that cut content, you spend the first half of the game wondering who the hell this man is only to kill him shortly after then never thinking of him again for the rest.
@DeadManSinging1
@DeadManSinging1 Ай бұрын
The Cut Content wasn't really much, the files are still in the game. It was basicly just a karma ambush from Fallout 3, but with Benny and some hitmen, and he says something like "You ruined everything you fink bastard!"
@defcon4215
@defcon4215 Жыл бұрын
All he had to do was to cut his hair
@slickbuster8346
@slickbuster8346 Жыл бұрын
*Get rid of that ol' Finky Ass haircut
@JimUK
@JimUK Жыл бұрын
And get into the Lucky 38 which he couldn't do.
@John-Doe-Yo
@John-Doe-Yo Жыл бұрын
Or wear a helmet
@Mastervan86
@Mastervan86 Жыл бұрын
Or wear wig.
@taxult
@taxult Жыл бұрын
I mean even if he did cut his hair, no one is allowed in. The weather monitoring station so I doubt he could've snuck in
@SporkSlayer
@SporkSlayer Жыл бұрын
Essentially, Benny leads us to a treasure that he cannot posses.
@chrisamon4551
@chrisamon4551 Жыл бұрын
The return of the Courier from the grave is the monkey wrench in Benny’s plan. Benny had been planning to get Yes Man into the Lucky 38 probably by storming the place one day through the tunnel He was having dug between the Tops and the Lucky 38. The arrival of the Courier in the tops forces Benny out of desperation to try infiltrate the Fort prematurely. If the courier had stayed dead, Benny would have waited possibly for months till the tunnel was complete, stormed the lucky 38 via the basement, killed MrHouse, installed Yes Man, then gone to the Fort…….. where he probably would have gotten captured anyway because of the hair thing you mentioned. He wouldn’t have trusted anybody else to take the platinum chip and he was too dumb to pull the mission off by himself.
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
He probably would have used the cover of the Battle of Hoover Dam as a chance to strike at the camp using mercenaries. Once they and House were both dealt with there might have been a slim chance Benny could have at least gained control of the Securitrons. Its just hard to imagine him holding control for long.
@chrisamon4551
@chrisamon4551 Жыл бұрын
@@GamingKeenBeaner I don’t know what mercenaries Benny could trust? Fiends Vipers Powder Gangers? The Khans won’t work with him again. Benny didn’t even tell any of the other Chairmen about his plan. Trying to infiltrate the Camp, in a Legionary disguise with the platinum chip up his butt, after Yes-Man had been installed, and the El Dorado substation rerouted, while the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam is going on, probably would have been Benny’s best chance. Soooooo many what if’s there i just doubt Benny could have pulled it off…
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
@@chrisamon4551 He definitely would have had a hard time putting a crew together for sure. Benny doesn't have the personality of a real leader
@jamatth52
@jamatth52 Жыл бұрын
Umm he was also digging in the wrong direction lmao...if you use the free camera you can get down to his tunnel totally going the opposite direction...dumb unfortunate Benny
@chrisamon4551
@chrisamon4551 Жыл бұрын
@@jamatth52 huh! I didn’t know that! The poor fool…
@tinaherr3856
@tinaherr3856 Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Benny, the Courier showing up and confronting him messed up his plans. His timetable was cut short, and he had to make a last minute escape and plan. If he wasn't inturupted, things could have gone differently
@Birkebeiner1066
@Birkebeiner1066 Жыл бұрын
Things would have gone smooth, like smooth little babies...
@Dhips.
@Dhips. Жыл бұрын
He'd still need to somehow take out Mr. House. We really have no way of knowing how he'd do that. The doors never open for anyone into the Lucky 38 till the player shows up.
@TheIrishRushin
@TheIrishRushin Жыл бұрын
Benny isn't strong enough to take out House's internal security. It would be even worse if he upgraded the securitron army. He'd have to go in with dozens of pulse grenades to stand a remote chance.
@Schregger
@Schregger Жыл бұрын
IDK, as pointed out in the video, the two biggest hurdles were the Securitron upgrades and House himself, I dont know what his "perfect" timetable would have been, but I still cant see him completing the latter, and even then, the former would still go wrong, as mentioned in the video. Benny's biggest problem was that he was to confident in his plan, a plan that sounded workable, but required far more skill, guile, and subterfuge... and perhaps quite a bit of luck... then what he had.
@left4twenty
@left4twenty Жыл бұрын
@@Dhips. it stands to reason, that if the player doesn't exist/show up, House would still want a man on the outside, and without the player around, Benny fits into that niche
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Жыл бұрын
Benny thought he can just sweettalk Caesar like he tried with everyone else, including the player when meeting him in The Tops. He dared a gamble he could not calculate the risk of and got himself killed in the process.
@overlord5186
@overlord5186 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't necessarily die though
@sim.frischh9781
@sim.frischh9781 Жыл бұрын
@@overlord5186 But his gamble never goes off the way he hoped for, not even CLOSE to success.
@EdgyShooter
@EdgyShooter Жыл бұрын
"Having to pay NCR taxes might be a lot worse" I mean, I've had some run ins with the tax authorities, but they've never attempted to literally crucify me...
@thethirdsicily4802
@thethirdsicily4802 Жыл бұрын
Not yet at least.
@tonystank3091
@tonystank3091 Жыл бұрын
You just haven't gotten that far yet.
@mado-wh4jv
@mado-wh4jv Жыл бұрын
Try not paying them
@iBullyDemons
@iBullyDemons Жыл бұрын
No theyll just throw you In a cell to rot if you don't pay them or shoot you if you try to resist.
@Louis--
@Louis-- Жыл бұрын
If Benny thought to take bloody mess, the whole story would have gone very differently.
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012
@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012 Жыл бұрын
If he was gay the story would have gone differently too
@nukesrus2663
@nukesrus2663 Жыл бұрын
If he had gunrunner's arsenal installed it would've gone differently as well
@tbotalpha8133
@tbotalpha8133 9 ай бұрын
I'm laughing at the idea of Doc Mitchell stitching together a horrific meat man, stuffing it in his old vault suit, and shoving it out the door to go meet the locals.
@OnxGrid
@OnxGrid Жыл бұрын
Ring a ding ding baby
@riley5722
@riley5722 Жыл бұрын
-What's your name, sweetheart? -Chip. -Chip, how are you doing Chip? -Alright...
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 Жыл бұрын
There's obviously a second entrance to the Securitron vault since there is a literal army of securitrons in there, and I don't think the bunker was designed for the securitrons to just roll up the stairs. So Benny would be easily able to make his exit without the Legion noticing.
@Stellar_Politics
@Stellar_Politics Жыл бұрын
Benny could possibly use the platinum chip as a ransom demanding to enter the Lucky 38 to give Mr. House the chip himself. It'd be very risky for him though. Perhaps he could use a couple pulse grenades like his people used against a securitron to create Yes Man.
@lucariolps277
@lucariolps277 Жыл бұрын
Hmm.. Yeah but even if house went for that, I would bet he would have benny searched for any weapon he might carry. And he would have a Ton of securitrons on site. So even if benny got in. I doubt he would be able to really get to house
@mandtcousins7121
@mandtcousins7121 Жыл бұрын
Benny has basically always been my favourite character in FNV and it's such a shame you only get to meet him a couple times. Adding some sort of route where the two of you manage to come to an agreement and you end up partially in control of the Tops would have been a pretty cool idea for the Yes Man route I think
@TheForgetfulTimekeeper
@TheForgetfulTimekeeper Жыл бұрын
The House Always Wins.
@terribleduelist4433
@terribleduelist4433 Жыл бұрын
Dude his plan is literally falling apart when you show up without courier intervention House is a Deadman counting down the days till the Legion or NCR forced their way into the Lucky 38
@diffsnicker6570
@diffsnicker6570 Жыл бұрын
@@terribleduelist4433 but that's just it. He has a plan for the future. More than can be said for anyone else. Also I can tell you've never done a house playthrough because house specifically states that he provides the balance of power and that if the NCR or legion wastes troops attacking him/vegas the other will be able to easily swoop in and finish the other so what u described really wouldn't happen unless the NCR or legion fully won already in which case house would've been dead already so when you consider that ur argument really falls apart
@terribleduelist4433
@terribleduelist4433 Жыл бұрын
@@diffsnicker6570 I don't trust a word house says to the player because he only trusts the player because he thinks they're dumber than and easier to manipulate than Benny and he's right
@mr.pissedoff1903
@mr.pissedoff1903 Жыл бұрын
I listened to Benny my first playthrough, and pretty much knew he wasn’t gonna pull up to his room after he gave me 500 caps. I got like 30 bottles of liquor, too. Then I went to Caesar for the house mission, and had Benny crucified.
@n3rgal166
@n3rgal166 Жыл бұрын
i recently purchased this game and played it (i ran through the game years ago but wasn't really into the story because of lack of proper english understanding) but DAMN man this is hands down one of the best when it comes to story telling and NPC dialogue, i mean i could stand all day listening to what these NPCs trying to say or tell a story of their past, spectacular dialogue, voice acting and atmosphere even now for a 10+ years old game, great video by the way.
@zekun4741
@zekun4741 Жыл бұрын
"i could stand all day listening to what these NPCs trying to say" -patrolling the mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
@MrWert1978
@MrWert1978 Жыл бұрын
Its hard for me to play New Vegas, Freeside smells like shit.
@kpmh2001
@kpmh2001 Жыл бұрын
Okay, there's one minor problem here, and that's Benny coming back to kill the Courier after being freed. This is likely cut content for a reason, as it doesn't make much sense for Benny to try and take on somebody who just solo'd Fortification Hill. Also, no cut-content is "canonical" no matter how well it may have fitted into the game.
@ntfoperative9432
@ntfoperative9432 Жыл бұрын
And also someone who literally survived a bullet to the head
@tylertheguy3160
@tylertheguy3160 Жыл бұрын
Honestly Benny was pretty damn stupid and narcissistic. I could totally buy that his ego would be big enough to think he actually at a shot at taking out the courier.
@mado-wh4jv
@mado-wh4jv Жыл бұрын
It's not rational, but losing everything would make anyone act irrationally even if it's out of jealousy for the Courier's success.
@kpmh2001
@kpmh2001 Жыл бұрын
@@mado-wh4jv This is just about the only thing that I can think of to justify it really.
@bigscarysoup8046
@bigscarysoup8046 Жыл бұрын
The entire plot of the game revolves around the fact that 9mm is an inferior cartridge
@deevilknievel
@deevilknievel Жыл бұрын
if only he had a stealth girl. they last three times longer.
@TheAsaoirc
@TheAsaoirc Жыл бұрын
To be fair to Benny, going to the Legion camp first was a panicked response to the courier. In this scenario he would have stayed at the tops and worked on getting into House's casino.
@mado-wh4jv
@mado-wh4jv Жыл бұрын
But there's a problem, Mr. House knows, it's a matter of time before he sent a killer squad to return the chip even if he has to kill everyone at the tops.
@TheAsaoirc
@TheAsaoirc Жыл бұрын
@@mado-wh4jv Oh absolutely, it would likely not have worked, just pointing out that his 'run to the legion' idea wasn't actually a part of his plan, just a reaction to circumstances.
@sebastiaogaiolas9739
@sebastiaogaiolas9739 9 ай бұрын
He also didnt expect being cruxified either.
@Valcuda
@Valcuda Жыл бұрын
And to add salt to the wound, Mr.House tells the Courier that had Benny not shot them, *he'd* have been the one doing all those tasks he asks the Courier to do. This would've let Benny do the Yes Man ending, by: Following houses plan till after the securitrons in the fort are active, (house would presumably have a different method for this that wouldn't lead to Benny's death), then kill house, and just follow the Yes Man ending. If Benny hadn't (tried to) killed the Courier, he would've succeeded in his goal.
@Gamerguy826
@Gamerguy826 Жыл бұрын
His defiance and greed sealed his fate.
@artemisarrow179
@artemisarrow179 Жыл бұрын
I love how New Vegas has new content +10 years after its release
@joshuagraham1800
@joshuagraham1800 Жыл бұрын
A game that is almost like 12 years old still has people talking about it it's just amazing
@vandagylon2885
@vandagylon2885 Жыл бұрын
But not really
@joshuagraham1800
@joshuagraham1800 Жыл бұрын
@@vandagylon2885 oh yeah it is, there's so many other games that are as old as it that no one even mutters anymore
@vandagylon2885
@vandagylon2885 Жыл бұрын
@@joshuagraham1800 well. The age doesn't really matter.
@joshuagraham1800
@joshuagraham1800 Жыл бұрын
@@vandagylon2885what was your goal even
@missingmochigumanofficial
@missingmochigumanofficial Жыл бұрын
These New Vegas analyses videos are always comprehensive and well-researched. Keep up the good work.
@TheFrogEnjoyer
@TheFrogEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to another one of your uploads
@NewDayStudios
@NewDayStudios Жыл бұрын
This is well done, brilliant work, well in depth, theirs no way Beni could rule for all the points you've raised, he just wouldn't be able to get the support even if by a miracle he makes it back to Vegas, and whats stopping house from just overriding Benis command? Delusional at best!
@generaltobias3777
@generaltobias3777 Жыл бұрын
you really deserve 100k by now, videos like this are very interesting to watch.
@jack-exzolt9858
@jack-exzolt9858 Жыл бұрын
Benny had a good plan going for him. But the problem was, he was too paranoid and too much of a coward to enact them. He was making enemies more than making friends. He ditched the Khans to save his skin, and threw the rest of his fellow Chairmen under the bus for his selfish delusions.
@modelnanpresident
@modelnanpresident Жыл бұрын
Great video once again!
@Jay_76
@Jay_76 Жыл бұрын
In the scenario where Benny, somehow, gains control of the Securitrons and uses them to wipe out the Legion in The Fort, you claim that the Second Battle for Hooover Dam probably wouldn't happen. Yet if the courier wipes out The Fort and kills Caesar, Lanius still attacks Hoover Dam and is unwilling to surrender without a maximum Speech check. I see no reason why the attack wouldn't happen if Benny and his new Securitron army are the ones to destroy The Fort instead. That is Benny's best chance for rule Vegas. The Legion under Lanius is going to attack Hoover Dam regardless. The NCR is going to take a great number of casualties and maybe even lose control of the dam. The NCR and Legion will be at each other's throats and in their weakened condition, Benny can either make a deal to secure Vegas's independence or, if both sides are weak enough wipe them both off the map and use the Securitrons to secure the Mojave. With a sufficient show of force and an army of military-grade robots, the other families will follow orders, at least for a while. The Brotherhood of Steel is doomed under the leadership of McNamara who seems to have a "Wait & See"" attitude and won't even send Knights to find air filters for the bunker. The Boomers _could_ be convinced to join Vegas under the right circumstances. You even say this in the video. The Great Khans aren't much of a factor, especially if they get wiped out helping Lanius during the battle for the dam. Like Benny himself says, it's a longshot. But it's not impossible.
@basketbasket1225
@basketbasket1225 Жыл бұрын
new New Vegas content randomly in my feed, very nice!
@AlexanderofGreatness95
@AlexanderofGreatness95 Жыл бұрын
I think one point that's missing & I think it's a weak point in the writing too. Benny ultimately screwed up by ambushing the courier in the first place. Mr. House wanted to have the chip delivered so he can have the army upgraded, which was already Benny's goal. There was no need for him to intercept the courier & put himself in harms way by 1. Showing his hand to House 2. Trying to sneak into the fort to install it himself. He could've waited until House hired a spy to install the chip. After that he could've waited for the right time to spring on House. (Edit, I don't think he'd be successful in killing House though)
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
If House upgraded his securitrons and released the army of them from the fort, Benny may have felt too afraid to make a move. Even inside the casino, House himself is very well-guarded. His personal securitron guard force is formidable and Benny would have needed a serious attack force to take them down even if he snuck in to the casino itself. Benny isn't much of a leader or a warrior, so getting past all that would be tough. If they were already upgraded it would be even worse.
@AlexanderofGreatness95
@AlexanderofGreatness95 Жыл бұрын
@@GamingKeenBeaner I should've clarified that I don't think Benny would be successful in assassinating him, I was just saying him upgrading the army was a redundant part of his plan, since House was gonna do it anyways. Either way Benny is an idiot tbh. Even if he were the one to take the chip & upgrade the army, he would still have no control over them even if he somehow miraculously escaped from the fort. He would have to go into hiding from House. Sure, the robot army isn't activated until the battle of hoover dam. (House wants both NCR & Legion to weaken each other first). But the ones on the strip are still upgraded & mean. Realistically I don't see Benny succeeding in anyway. If he doesn't ambush the courier & House gets the chip + the army upgrade, all House has to do is close the Lucky 38 doors forever. If Benny does get through, House just shuts off the elevator power.. If Benny does ambush the courier, he shows his hand to House, & has to somehow sneak past Legion, upgrade the army, then sneak out...but then he still has no control over the army.
@jeffumbach
@jeffumbach Жыл бұрын
There's no indication that Benny knew just what the chip did until after he had obtained it and had Yes Man analyze it.
@cadestockman5731
@cadestockman5731 Жыл бұрын
The reason he ambushed the courier was to get the platinum chip. If Benny doesn’t have the platinum chip, he never gets into the lucky 38.
@cadestockman5731
@cadestockman5731 Жыл бұрын
Actually I forgot about the tunnel that Benny was having dug from the tops to the 38. In which case it IS kind of weird that he went after the chip. He’s too big brained for me
@OldManMcLoyf
@OldManMcLoyf Жыл бұрын
Love the video, hope I can one day become a large lore-ish channel like you my man.
@HandyFox333
@HandyFox333 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had both of you guy's voice talents. [And grammar apparently.]
@Deadsea_1993
@Deadsea_1993 2 ай бұрын
R.i.p. Matthew Perry. A huge Fallout fan and he will be missed by all. Thank you for this amazing performance and you have forever become part of Fallout now.
@Mestari1Gaming
@Mestari1Gaming Жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@user-oe5ce2kk3j
@user-oe5ce2kk3j Жыл бұрын
Missed the opportunity to call the video "Benny's plan was rigged from the start"
@Thecommander248
@Thecommander248 Жыл бұрын
You make some good videos. Keep it up.
@user-kc2fu8iw3v
@user-kc2fu8iw3v Жыл бұрын
benny's plan was pretty much a "oh crap, i almost got killed by the guy i tried to kill! i gotta run to the fort to hand the securitron army to mr house on a silver platter. what could go wrong?" he should've waited with this plan until the player kills mr house, but that would require the quest to be reworked.
@concept5631
@concept5631 10 ай бұрын
Its ironic that Benny says the odds are rigged against the Courier before shooting him, when in reality, putting those two bullets into the Courier rigged the odds against him.
@nandoxus
@nandoxus Жыл бұрын
Benny's weakness is his big ego. Thinking he's smarter than everyone
@Gamerguy826
@Gamerguy826 Жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why the White Glove society gave him the heebie jeebies (cannibalism aside). They were a mirror into the dark nature of his own ego, narcissism and arrogance.
@joseybryant7577
@joseybryant7577 Жыл бұрын
I think the key takeaway, is that without the courier he'd be dead. The courier can free him, but without him, on his own, he's dead.
@HandyFox333
@HandyFox333 Жыл бұрын
Just about to go to sleep and I see you upload! How could you?
@doggopoggo5552
@doggopoggo5552 Жыл бұрын
Lol same!
@wrathin99
@wrathin99 Жыл бұрын
"Turns out Benny really was a fink all along"
@groovymckraut7179
@groovymckraut7179 Жыл бұрын
Always a good morning when Yaboiii posts first thing!
@ethanmiller631
@ethanmiller631 Жыл бұрын
His intelligence stat is literally 3
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem
@ALLMINDmercenarysupportsystem Жыл бұрын
Really? That explains a bit.
@user-oe5ce2kk3j
@user-oe5ce2kk3j Жыл бұрын
Whats his charisma?
@ethanmiller631
@ethanmiller631 Жыл бұрын
@@user-oe5ce2kk3j 3 as well but his strength is 7
@user-oe5ce2kk3j
@user-oe5ce2kk3j Жыл бұрын
@@ethanmiller631 I wonder how the developers assigned npc's stats. They don't make any sense
@taxult
@taxult Жыл бұрын
@@user-oe5ce2kk3j It's not canon and players can't even check it most of the time so there's no point
@jonwashburn7999
@jonwashburn7999 Жыл бұрын
I never thought about Benny's plan. Thanks.
@Smasho8000
@Smasho8000 Жыл бұрын
Of course the snake would bite everyone he comes in contact with, therefore burning every bridge previously open to him. He's probably a sociopath.
@Phoenixoflife56
@Phoenixoflife56 Жыл бұрын
The thing is that the independent route either way leads to a hollow shell of a nation that spans a single city because unless the courier uses the production facilities at the big empty, there’s no way to produce more securitrons which would be a finite military and civilian assets. Let’s assume that House has a production facility under the lucky 38 then there’s the issue of material and logistics. Especially if their in game behavior is anything to go by they have a habit of damaging each other in the process of random civilians damage that would need to be repaired. Only two options would be viable, use them exclusively for military deployment or produce ones that only use the MK one system. With that the best case is that eventually once the NCR goes for expansion they suffer a Pyrrhic victory. Meaning that they will barely win but will almost be decimated.
@cyber1ifeconnor
@cyber1ifeconnor Жыл бұрын
its literally shows you that independence is the worst ending only second to ceasers leagion...
@ryanrusch3976
@ryanrusch3976 Жыл бұрын
I misread that title by a long shot
@MissNulle2000
@MissNulle2000 Жыл бұрын
He could have literaly just gotten a hold of their very common legionary helmets...almost seems like a big oversight on his end that he didnt. And the fact he made such a simple oversight should say even if he hadnt made that one he probably made plenty others..
@juror9668
@juror9668 Жыл бұрын
The courier only has an in with House because he's the courier. Benny can only steal the chip. So house has no reason to hire him as a mercenary.
@calumhenderson9404
@calumhenderson9404 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was an option to bring Benny into the fold in Wildcard.
@The_Alt_Vault
@The_Alt_Vault Жыл бұрын
Love this video
@flakzuludeusex2365
@flakzuludeusex2365 Жыл бұрын
This guy is a gambler, so he made his moves are good but how he plays is bad by timing and his luck is always against him so The Gambler should have read people faces and knowing the cards first and he has no aces in his hand, and he should have drink his last swallow his drink and his deal is done, maybe he should have fold because the Courier 6 has a full House.
@Cold_Cactus
@Cold_Cactus Жыл бұрын
Interesting topic for a video , of all the hours I've got into fonv I can't say I've ever considered Benny's plan any farther than ending it lol
@WaysideReborned
@WaysideReborned Жыл бұрын
Im doing another play through (with mods for once ever) and my god is this game amazing.
@The_House_Always_Wins
@The_House_Always_Wins Жыл бұрын
Lmao that’s the only reason I still play these old games I don’t care how good the story is if it hurts my eyes to look at I’m not going to play it for an extended period of time
@HolbrookStark
@HolbrookStark Жыл бұрын
@@The_House_Always_Wins New Vegas is beautiful even without mods though
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123
@ZekromAndYugiAndDrago123 Жыл бұрын
Benny's plan in theory was sound, but that's just it. In theory. Benny didn't know House was onto him. If he had, I doubt he would've shot the Courier. Additionally, Benny never would've gotten CLOSE to the Lucky 38, much less have the red carpet rolled out for him like we did. That's literally the only reason we can do the Yes Man ending.
@blackknightz5036
@blackknightz5036 Жыл бұрын
Everyone to Benny:"Can you please fuck off?" Everyone to Courier:"Can be please not kill us?"
@Gamerguy826
@Gamerguy826 Жыл бұрын
Night and day. Benny was about as oblivious as you can get to the difference and paid the ultimate price for it.
@woodlandairsoft9846
@woodlandairsoft9846 Жыл бұрын
I like the motion capture in the intro of nv
@aisforamerica2185
@aisforamerica2185 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the "everyone has an old man face" mod haha great video, by the way. Thank you for posting.
@drinkinbuddy8264
@drinkinbuddy8264 Жыл бұрын
Yoooooo a new yaboi vid lets go
@fetidcreeper
@fetidcreeper Жыл бұрын
his only chance would have been to wait until after the battle of hoover dam, because the winning side would be significantly weakened; and whatever the case, the bunker would have been easier to get into.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 Жыл бұрын
Benny basically doing -kill- betray everyone wild card playthrough without any skills or perks to aid him
@basketbasket1225
@basketbasket1225 Жыл бұрын
Good video
@lpseudonyml
@lpseudonyml Жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the correct form of anarchy.
@_.l4n3
@_.l4n3 Жыл бұрын
This video is so classy it got me a reservation at Dorsia for 8:30 same day
@AHersheyHere
@AHersheyHere Жыл бұрын
He would be like a late Roman Emperor, he would rule until someone paid the Praetorians more to have the Emperor killed and replaced.
@elkosins1686
@elkosins1686 Жыл бұрын
The simple reason is that he crossed the single dude with the power to quick load games
@ClymenetheFox
@ClymenetheFox Ай бұрын
His reign woulda been short but it woulda been swingin baby!
@freakymoejoe2
@freakymoejoe2 Жыл бұрын
One thing ill note is the courier can raze the legion camp, and the battle for the still goes ahead
@Surepeacooler
@Surepeacooler Жыл бұрын
It would make more sense to use the stealth boy ONCE HE ALREADY GOT TO THE FORT
@esotericwarrior7261
@esotericwarrior7261 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to think benny got caught in his legionnaire outfit because he has gel in his hair and he still sounded like a new vegas city slicker.
@danielsurvivor1372
@danielsurvivor1372 Жыл бұрын
Considering that Benny is allegedly rich, he could've tried to just buy so many stealthboys to keep him invisible 24/7 including from House computer
@AskTorin
@AskTorin Жыл бұрын
Alternative title: "Even if..."
@courier.66
@courier.66 Жыл бұрын
Only if Benny used 10mm
@Gamerguy826
@Gamerguy826 Жыл бұрын
Gun is gun in this case.
@quint3ssent1a
@quint3ssent1a Жыл бұрын
Idk, by the time you've show up in the casino, Benny already has hacked securitron running, so I'd say his chances of succeeding were pretty high. Botched infiltration aside, he had done everything right.
@jeffjr84
@jeffjr84 Жыл бұрын
Benny also wasn't that smart.. he is a tribal raider..
@MazeMaker4Life
@MazeMaker4Life Жыл бұрын
Of course it was rigged from the start, the player character survived a bullet to the head. 😂
@GldnClaw
@GldnClaw Жыл бұрын
2 rounds.
@boomslick2436
@boomslick2436 Жыл бұрын
I just feel like an independent New Vegas is doomed to fail ultimately. I mean it's the reincarnation of the city of sin and is already showing signs of cracks in the walls.
@jacksonmanitoulinisland
@jacksonmanitoulinisland Жыл бұрын
I mean. All the factions in new Vegas are doomed to fail at some point. No nation lasts forever just look at real history
@boomslick2436
@boomslick2436 Жыл бұрын
Of course but I feel like New Vegas is gonnafall apart a lot sooner
@Gamer-ry6xy
@Gamer-ry6xy Жыл бұрын
I mean, Yes Man wasn't intended to give people independence in the region at first, it was intended for Benny to gain access to power for his own benefit.
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
I think it really depends on the leadership of either House or The Courier. The city and surrounding towns would definitely need to band together with some clear goals and a mobilized militia backing up the Securitron force. Then if they patched up relations with the NCR it would be possible to reopen trade to the West and be seen as an allied trade partner in order to avoid conflict. Expanding East of New Vegas would have a lot of downside for the NCR because its a lot of wasteland on the far side of the Hoover Dam. As long as they're getting economic benefit and Eastward security from New Vegas I think they could make it work. Playing the factions of The Boomers and The Khans correctly could provide them with new core missions and bring them into a strong alliance with New Vegas and thus keeping them and the NCR from getting into it. The Boomers have a lot of pre-war tech on their base that could be used to perhaps even reopen limited trade by airplane. Their artillery systems could be emplaced higher up and in better locations to cover the New Vegas area against invasion. The criminals and pimps would have to get right or get out though. Keeping Freeside and the nearby areas semi-autonomous would allow those who want to live a little more wildly a place to go.
@diffsnicker6570
@diffsnicker6570 Жыл бұрын
@@GamingKeenBeaner have you played fallout 2? Even if Vegas can temporarily appease NCR their expansionist tendencies will arise again. They will have to be dealt with eventually. Probably nuked ironically enough
@gabeburgin235
@gabeburgin235 11 ай бұрын
Wasn’t there cut content where benny was going to tunnel to the lucky 38 basement from either the tops or vault 21?
@bacd-nn2lg
@bacd-nn2lg Жыл бұрын
Ring-a-Ding-Ding!
@Michaelwasinasia
@Michaelwasinasia Жыл бұрын
"...and lieutenant to one of the most powerful men alive, Mr. House." "Alive's" a tricky word.
@auraparty3335
@auraparty3335 Жыл бұрын
Ayyyyy forget about it
@Andriej69
@Andriej69 Жыл бұрын
I mean, that's supposed to be the ultimate irony
@NemFX
@NemFX Жыл бұрын
Outside bet. There's a terminal in the bunker that you communicate with House through, right? So Benny could sue for peace. "I have your chip. Let's make a deal. You wipe out the Legion, I upload the chip, we do business together." Essentially, the same deal you get, but Benny is asking for it, while House offers you it. House would take Benny up on it, because that's how House would get what he wants.
@pancake_the_pancake
@pancake_the_pancake Жыл бұрын
that face texture mod is scary af
@moodyowlproductions4287
@moodyowlproductions4287 Жыл бұрын
Benny"hay...my plan would have worked...wouldn't it"? Me"..... yeaaaahhhhhhh...not really Benny....not really"
@christiannersinger7529
@christiannersinger7529 Жыл бұрын
My main theory for both the fallout and the elder scrolls games is that the main character doesn't exist, I think of the main character in each game as the same entity even though they're canonically separate, it's like Heracles having done so many things in his life even though there's a chance he never existed, the accomplishments of all are looped into one man because a person is easier to relate to than a large group of people, and to further my theory, each faction has someone who would logically take your place to if you hadn't shown up
@squidlytv
@squidlytv Жыл бұрын
That's practically what ends up being made Canon anyways
@0ld_Scratch
@0ld_Scratch Жыл бұрын
I wish there was an ending where you could team up with Benny. I just dig his style.
@142doddy
@142doddy Жыл бұрын
There should have been an option for the Courier to back Benny for power.
@emilybanks5291
@emilybanks5291 Жыл бұрын
The legion doesn't like flashy haircuts??? Bruh they literally walk around with spiky Mohawks
@sethyboy1997
@sethyboy1997 Жыл бұрын
The house always wins
@a_random_orthodox_Christian
@a_random_orthodox_Christian Жыл бұрын
Forget about sleeping I guess
@Yunoxz
@Yunoxz Жыл бұрын
Very good video, however I disagree with one point, it is made clear in the game (i don't remember where, i could be wrong) that even with the death of ceasar (if the courrier wipe the camp) it won't change anything because lanius is the general, and that the legion still fight at the dam
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