Bergara Ridge Carbon Wilderness | Pass or Fail?

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Is the Bergara B-14 Ridge Carbon Wilderness a failure?
In this review we go over the fit, feel and features of the bolt action rifle. We also head out to the range and test it and bring you the results of the Bergara Ridge Carbon Wilderness bolt action rifle.
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@BB-nw3mj
@BB-nw3mj 10 ай бұрын
I have the regular Ridge in .308...it's a mad man. My first 5 shot group after sight in was 0.661"...averages about 3/4" some groups under 1/2.
@adrianhernandez916
@adrianhernandez916 10 ай бұрын
I just finished watching this. I gotta say I had a standard B14 Ridge and had similar issues. Long story short, my copy was a .30-06 with their 24" #5 or #4 standard 1-10 twist barrel, with the thread protector. I got the rifle all set up and took it to the range well over 10 times, firing hundreds of rounds and trying different optics and mounting systems. I also tried bullet weights ranging from 150 grain to 195 grain, the bullet types varied from OTM, SMKs, ELD M, ELD X, Hornady Garand, CX, TSX, TTSX, CORE LOKT PSP, SSTs, Power Shok JSP, interlock, power point, deer season xp, copper impact, Norma whitetail, browning long range pro hunter bullets etc. Mind you, barrel break-in was done, and everything was torqued to spec, and I was using a Caldwell rock br and a rear bag from a good bench like yours in the video. Needless to say that rifle was picky, and it was consistent, but in fact, it would only produce an average of 1.5" or 1.75"s at 100 yds. I'll give it that. Otherwise, the only other issue I had was feed from the follower and magazine. It wasn't long after that that I got rid of the gun. I could've sent it back, but after what I spent in ammo and inconvenience, I decided I would just part with it. That's when I discovered savage and went down that rabbit hole. Now I'm back to weatherby vanguards. That's a whole separate story, though. If I were you, I'd send it back. By the way, I forgot to mention I tried filling and bedding the synthetic stock, and that didn't help either. Maybe swapping to a different stock or filling it properly in the forend and putting proper pillars may have helped, but as I said, I viewed it as a loss and moved on. Hope you get it worked out
@collinslangley361
@collinslangley361 7 ай бұрын
Dang I totally thought I was going to have your solution with sanding out the stock. I’ve seen a handful of them have too much paint in the stock and it can index with the barrel or action. But if you’ve already knocked that one out I’m out of tricks
@adrianhernandez916
@adrianhernandez916 7 ай бұрын
@@collinslangley361 just bight the bullet and sell it or keep it and re stock it and bedding it would probably help otherwise it's the barrel or just send it to bergara
@larryjrhebert2097
@larryjrhebert2097 10 ай бұрын
I have 2 B14 carbon wilderness Hmr, 6.5 creedmore & 300 win mag & I have 2 excellent rifles , both shoot very well. I am very pleased!!! Good luck ✌🏼🤙🏼
@larrysayers1377
@larrysayers1377 10 ай бұрын
Good honest review. I had a B14 Hunter in 06 that I purchased in spring of 2023. I tried 12 different brands of ammo in 165, 175, 180, and 190gr bullets over 2 months. Best it would do is 2”grps and a couple factory ammo loads were at 4”. These groups were not shot with a hot barrel. I would shoot the 100yd target, put the gun in the shade and walk up and mark the shot, then come back n wait a few more minutes. I shoot from as cold a barrel as I can. Also this gun would not feed. The cartridges kept popping out of the magazine and when I did get a few to stay in they would jam all the time without fail. I filmed the targets and the feeding issue on my iPhone and took it back to the gun shop where I bought the rifle. They were real good about it and took the gun back and gave me full credit for it. I gave them the target also. I emailed Bergara and never got a response back from them. I took the credit and used it for a Tikka 270 and I’ve not had one issue in feed, extraction or ejection. And the accuracy is simply outstanding. This Tikka groups 5 shots of Hornady 140gr Interlock into .8”. It will do 1”-1.20” with other Fed and Winchester ammo using 150gr bullets. My one and only experience with Bergara and it was a massive fail. I’ve owned over 85+ rifles in 50yrs of hunting and I’ve not encountered an issue like this with Bergara.
@blazogrga1602
@blazogrga1602 10 ай бұрын
Hi ,I have b14 hunter and hmr wilderness they are sub moa with Geco and Norma ammo,try hunter with geco SP 170 gr or norma jaktmatch 155gr
@ssimossimo576
@ssimossimo576 9 ай бұрын
I would never try 12 different brands of ammo in a gun which clearly is defective.. that's just stupid. I have had experience with MANY Bergaras and i have never seen one with cycling issues or accuracy problems. Bergaras are generally picky with ammo but, with the right load or reloading, they are very, very accurate. I own 3 at the moment. A 308 b14 hunter which shoot 0.3 MOA all day with geco sp, a 308 b14 hunter in a aftermarket stock which shoot easily half MOA with nosler ballietic tip and federal loaded with berger hybrids and 0.4-0.5 MOA with the geco sp. I still have to make a handload, it will shoot amazingly. I also have a 308 single shot ba13 which, with its 16 inch barrel, incredibly shoots 0.5 MOA at 300 yards with geco sp. They are all pretty picky with ammo i have to say but if you find the right seathing depth and load your own ammo they are tack drivers. In 5 years of intensive hunting and shooting at the range with approximatively 3000 rounds through these barrels, i still have to witness a breakage or a malfunction.
@larrysayers1377
@larrysayers1377 9 ай бұрын
@@ssimossimo576 well good for you. 🙄
@garyshrum2076
@garyshrum2076 8 ай бұрын
I just bought one like this in 6.5CM and it is awesome in all aspects including accuracy. I shoot Winchester Match 140gr BTHP and believe me it is SUB MOA. Almost always a three shot group you can cover with a nickel. Truly a great rifle for the money.
@audieladd2476
@audieladd2476 10 ай бұрын
I've spent big money on custom and semi custom rifles and then bought a Tikka T3x. Custom rifles are nice, but a Tikka will shoot just as well where it counts, on the target.
@jeffreyhall838
@jeffreyhall838 9 ай бұрын
Excellent review! Thanks for sharing
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 9 ай бұрын
My pleasure
@chrisgreenhagen1717
@chrisgreenhagen1717 10 ай бұрын
I bought two different B14 wilderness 308’s and sent both back since they struggled to consistently shoot a 3 inch group with hundreds of dollars in different ammo. Both were sent back to Bergara and only 1 shot better after it was returned.Tried different scopes, checked torque and even tried several different reloads that voided the warranty. No trouble consistently shooting sub MOA with my other rifles. Maybe this is an anomaly with a few rifles but I will never buy a third Bergara rifle😊
@brettstewart8765
@brettstewart8765 10 ай бұрын
Good honest review mate well done cheers Yogi 👍
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
It hurt to be honest on this one because in my heart I like bergara
@michaelficarro2591
@michaelficarro2591 10 ай бұрын
I have 2 B14's and a CVA accura LR and they all shoot extremely well.....
@accur81
@accur81 10 ай бұрын
My Bergara HMR Pro in 6.5 CM is quite accurate and not ammo picky - 5 shots in 1 1/2" at 300 yard if it isn't too windy. It seems skinny barrels and light profiles are always more ammo sensitive. The 300 Win Mag is tricky to get great accuracy from skinny barrels and light guns - my 300 Win Mag has a skinny barrel and won't shoot super tight groups - but it's a stainless Win 70.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Nice
@CB-ck6ze
@CB-ck6ze 10 ай бұрын
That Sig 190OTM ammo is one of the suggested loadings from Bergara. If you were to send it back for warranty, they will shoot that am,o through it and say “see, sub MOA!” Hopefully you can get it sorted and shooting right.
@heyyou6903
@heyyou6903 10 ай бұрын
My Bergara HMR chambered in 300WM moved in the stock. It was removing the finish off the bottom of the action and shot horribly. Accuracy was great after I bedded it into the stock. Great barreled action.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@foonus406
@foonus406 7 ай бұрын
Exact same issue with my Premiere HMR Pro in 300PRC. Aluminum in the stock was oversprayed and made poor surface contact with the action. Aluminum pocket for the recoil lug was WAY oversized for a standard lug they use with it (you could see where the lug was smashing into the right side of the pocket and deforming it. As well the whole action was bound up on the rear bolt because the pilar was drilled at an angle. Bergara's reputation has always been for quality barrels.. from what I have seen they are really dropping the ball when it comes to stocks and fitment.. I don't know, but would not be surprised if the barreled actions are accuracy tested on test rig before they are installed in the stock. That said, its a sub 1/2 minute rifle now that the issues are solved and its bedded, unfortunately being a 300 PRC, substantial barrel life was wasted trying to troubleshoot and solve what should have never been an issue in a premium advertised product.
@Notreallyme377
@Notreallyme377 9 ай бұрын
I would echo the experiences of others. Had one Bagara that shot great and one that I couldn’t get to group despite a lot of effort. I now prefer Tikka which are similarly priced but more consistent IMO
@Pepenatito1
@Pepenatito1 9 ай бұрын
I bought the exact same rifle and I’m having the same problem with mine. Hopefully I find something that it shoots well.
@zachchristensen1394
@zachchristensen1394 8 ай бұрын
The honest review everyone needs!! Heard the cascades shoot well lol! Funny they’re cheaper guns shoot better.. we have a cva paramount shoots lights out has a bergara barrel
@cameronwright5042
@cameronwright5042 Ай бұрын
I bought the Cascade CVA 6.5 PRC and it's shooting lights out 0.6 inch groups.
@krisshepherd740
@krisshepherd740 7 ай бұрын
I have a Bergara Ridge 270win that will shoot .25 inch group's with any ammo i grab so far. 130g CX, 145gEldx, 140g accubond, 136g terminal ascent.
@Leafbinder
@Leafbinder 10 ай бұрын
Well with 16-20 hours trying I would say its got to be the barrel, Thanks for the review mate.
@WaidmannsHenk.308
@WaidmannsHenk.308 8 ай бұрын
Did you perform a chemical cleaning of the barrel befor use as Bergara strongly recommend?
@davidrose415
@davidrose415 7 ай бұрын
First bergarra's have to be broke in in a specific way with specific hornady ammo. Second carbon barrels have to cool between every shot. If you are going to review guns you should probably study them first. I shoot savage rifles because they rarely need to be broke in, and are far less expensive than the boutique rifles like bergarra or Tikka. I've never had a savage fail in anyway, and I am very rough on them. My 110tac is a very picky rifle, but I is a 6.5PRC and from what I have studied all 6.5PRCs are super picky. I do get very sub MOA groups with it using Hornady ammo until the jump gets fowled or the barrel gets hot. Once it gets hot it takes a long time to cool down due to the heavy profile. After it cools though a 10" plate at a grand is an easy shot. When the jump gets fowled it is all over the place until you scrub it out. Again that is a 6.5PRC thing from everything I've found. Now I do intend to rebarrel it in February with a custom barrel just cause I want a 28" barrel on it that is one thickness over the entire length with diamond flutes and a Barrett style suppressor ready muzzle brake on it. I intend to put the same style barrel on my axis2 in 270win also with custom MDT chassises that resemble M40 type stocks with adjustable length of pull and cheek risers because that is what I like. However as factory rifles I have zero complaints with them other than the cheek combs are not the right hight for big guys like me.
@SteveFromWyoming
@SteveFromWyoming 9 ай бұрын
That's unfortunate it didn't perform well. Thanks for a great review
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 9 ай бұрын
It is unfortunate
@hunterphillips88
@hunterphillips88 10 ай бұрын
I had a wilderness ridge Bergara in 7mm Rem Mag that would not shoot any grain or any brand ammo well. I sold it due to not being able to group any closer than 3-4 inches at 100 yards. I didn’t want to deal with the process of the Bergara warranty. The amount of money and time I spent on that gun going through all the reasons why it wouldn’t shoot well, was a huge waste of time. I’ll never own another Bergara
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Dang
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 10 ай бұрын
And that the reason I don’t recommend their rifles! I am a bolt action rifle collector for over 60+ years and the Bergara’s have been having trouble for awhile now and been hearing some concerning things!
@johntruesdale1612
@johntruesdale1612 7 ай бұрын
you probably just didn't find the right grain and brand ammo it liked.. I purchased 1000 Sierra 140 TGK bullets to reload for my bergara 270 and the best group was 9/16". And most groups were round an inch. I was never satified with that so I tried loading some Nosler 130gr Ballistic Silver tips and first group was a 3/8" group.. Different guns like different brands and weights.. I have 3 Bergara and all will shoot less that a half moa.
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
Back when I used to by commercial made guns if one shot bad, I started in with these rifles is replace the barrels with a Pac Nor supper match barrel or a Douglas air gauge barrel then problem solved. Now the only rifles I have I've built the entire rifle using High end parts.
@nickbaade6547
@nickbaade6547 9 ай бұрын
Try sanding the paint off the pillars mine got much better after sanding.
@foonus406
@foonus406 7 ай бұрын
Exact same issue with my Premiere HMR Pro in 300PRC. Aluminum in the stock was oversprayed and made poor surface contact with the action. Aluminum pocket for the recoil lug was WAY oversized for a standard lug they use with it (you could see where the lug was smashing into the right side of the pocket and deforming it. As well the whole action was bound up on the rear bolt because the pilar was drilled at an angle. Bergara's reputation has always been for quality barrels.. from what I have seen they are really dropping the ball when it comes to stocks and fitment.. I don't know, but would not be surprised if the barreled actions are accuracy tested on test rig before they are installed in the stock. That said, its a sub 1/2 minute rifle now that the issues are solved and its bedded, unfortunately being a 300 PRC, substantial barrel life was wasted trying to troubleshoot and solve what should have never been an issue in a premium advertised product.
@TMFShooting
@TMFShooting 10 ай бұрын
Another Great Video Steve 💯 Nice Rifle 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Thanks
@LifeisGood-ye8rl
@LifeisGood-ye8rl 10 ай бұрын
My Bergara hmr pro was ammo picky as well, but once it likes a lò it is .8 moa 5 shot groups and on 2 different range trip. But. I believe a poorly made carbon fiber wrap barrel will perform worse than a spotter contour, fluted steel barrel.
@suzgabverdugo933
@suzgabverdugo933 3 ай бұрын
My son just came back with his rifle b14 wilderness hmr 7mm rem mag. Hornady 139 gr superformance shot a 3/4” group, hornady 154 gr superformance shot another 3/4” group, HSM berger 168gr shot 1/4” group stacked them all in the same hole. I had to look closer. I thought he was messing with me. 😂 I take it his rifle is not picky.
@joshwhitcomb2491
@joshwhitcomb2491 10 ай бұрын
I have a bergara premier approach in 270 win and it'll repeatedly print between .4 in and .5 in at 100 yds and is sub half moa out to 600, which is longest range near me. To be fair that is with handloads but i did shoot some Norma Whitetail through it and it shot between .7 and .8. Probably got a lemon as others have said.
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 10 ай бұрын
It’s ok unless your the one who just bought the gun and payed all that money for a lemon! I won’t buy any Bergara rifle since I have been hearing bad things for awhile now and I am a gun collector🤔😳
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
You can fix that rifle by calling Pac Nor barrels then talk to Jay to get a new Barrel and when you have the barrel send barrel and action to Mark Manson for gunsmithing to change barrels. The cost for barrel and metal work will be around $700 then your accuracy problem is for ever gone. If you need Chamber reamers & Go & NO go gauges buy them from Pacific tool & Guage. I am using Pac Nor super match barrels on all of my line of AR 10 uppers I sell which I am getting from these uppers not less than 1/4 inch groups @ 100 yards. Even the AR 10 I use in 375 - 300 WSM I just fired 6 375 cal - Speer hot core boat tail 270 grain bullets into a 1/2 inch area from 150 yards during the calibrating my scopes nobs range settings.
@lz3572
@lz3572 6 ай бұрын
By seeing your video and reading some of the comments. I’d say that it’s more of a stock issue. I’ll bet if you put it in a Manners or MDT stock you would have much better results.
@TTT-du6oj
@TTT-du6oj 10 ай бұрын
I think Bergara should lick their calf over on that one,it’s too picky just being able to sort of group with just one or two ammos and I’ve seen you shoot too many howa tackdrivers to believe it’s shooter error
@MrMcguffin007
@MrMcguffin007 10 ай бұрын
WOW, That sucks. You got a Lemon! They need to send you a replacement, so you can redo this video. If not, I would love to see you throw a Tuner break on it and see if that can fix it. Thanks for the video!
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 10 ай бұрын
Side note bonded ammo is less accurate per Hornady and others. Something to do with the bonded process.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
I tried a lot of ammo... 😢
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 10 ай бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks I saw. What annoys me is I sent a Bergara back to them. They shot it with match. It was barely 1”. I guess it meets their requirement but actual hunting ammo was junk.
@tonym3157
@tonym3157 9 ай бұрын
Groups tightened up the more you shot it, looks like it’s getting better, I have heard Bergara’s are picky on factory ammo.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 9 ай бұрын
Yes
@salvacorsi494
@salvacorsi494 3 ай бұрын
Hi, what should you remember that full steel barrels are more reliable and precise than carbon barrels?
@Damon1359
@Damon1359 10 ай бұрын
I’m thinking about buying one in 7 PRC and swapping the stock with MDT HNT26 chassis! Did you clean the rifle after 100 shots before getting good groups?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Yes
@1valg
@1valg 2 ай бұрын
@Damon1359 One word: Don´t!
@pgeduardo
@pgeduardo 10 ай бұрын
Same issue I had with my 300WM B14 Ridge. Bergarbage. They blamed me as a shooter and wouldn't honor their MOA guarantee. I picked up a Tikka and haven't looked back.
@czwarlord9243
@czwarlord9243 9 ай бұрын
I’ve got both tikkas and begaras. I like them both but my begaras are generally slightly more accurate (thicker barrel)and have just as good as trigger and action. My begara like my tikka is picky with ammo. The best loads seem to be in the hornady’s and Bergers at specific grains/bullets for each caliber/barrel twist rate. My begara shoots 1/2 moa with the right off the shelf ammo. Sorry you got a bad one bud. It does happen. Respectfully I wouldn’t give up on them. Great guns.
@pgeduardo
@pgeduardo 9 ай бұрын
@@czwarlord9243 Yes, I did get a bad one. It happens, but Bergara wouldn't honor their MOA guarantee and told me to go pound sand. Not standing behind your product = Bergarbage. I'll never buy another.
@czwarlord9243
@czwarlord9243 9 ай бұрын
@@pgeduardo did they even look at it?
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
Weatherby did the exact same thing to me that Bitch Tearesa in customer services said to me I just don't know how to shoot a Weatherby rifle then hung up the phone on me. $1800 Weatherby mark 5 rifle is a worthless wall hanger all its good for or I will have the barrel pulled off and a Pac Nor supper match barrel installed, I own the 300 Wby mag reamer & No & go gauges from Pacific tool & gauge. The rifles chamber is reamed off center and then I was told the rifle is with in Weatherby spec. Even the reamer Weatherby used was defective because fired cartridges from this rifle when rolled the fired cartridges on a flat table the cartridge necks roll up and down off centered to the case. I am a professional Alaskan hunting guide and if I was bad at shooting, I would be dead today.
@JohnWest-yc9ol
@JohnWest-yc9ol 10 ай бұрын
Bergara has been hit and miss for me I've used their cheaper CVA cascade it shoots great but I've had accuracy issues out of the 3 out of 5 bergaras
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Wow
@djl0fne
@djl0fne 4 ай бұрын
Can u do a review on Cva lrh ?
@headcarter4656
@headcarter4656 4 ай бұрын
Man you must have a black cloud over you when it comes to bergara! I say this because I have 4 bergaras and have had 0 problems. Don't give up on them brother.
@sandybarnett7502
@sandybarnett7502 10 ай бұрын
My b14 never shot anything well, got rid of it
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Wow
@LSC2001
@LSC2001 7 ай бұрын
This has been my experience with two Bergara HMR rifles in 6.5 PRC. Not true sub MOA guns without hand loading.
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 10 ай бұрын
This is in 308 Win right? I've heard 308 doesn't like heavy bullets. Have you tried 150 and 165 gr bullets in it?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
300
@ReloadingWeatherby
@ReloadingWeatherby 10 ай бұрын
@@Bullets4Bucks oh... it's a lemon
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
@ReloadingWeatherby it's 300 though so not 175
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 8 ай бұрын
Any updates on this? Taken it apart, checked the stock and torque?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 8 ай бұрын
Checked stock and torque
@wesleyturner1979
@wesleyturner1979 8 ай бұрын
300 win mag amo has a lot of factors going into case prep for accuracy. It’s a cartridge your going to see great benefits in loading for it. You groups are shot too fast for a sporter barrel. More important for a hunting rifle would be your cold bore shot accuracy. I don’t think you gave this barrel a chance. I think this video needs a redo with the 6.5 PRC or 7mm PRC. You could also retest with fire formed, reloaded brass after load development. Anyone expecting to take advantage of the 300 win mag long range ballistics, should be reloading anyway.
@dvskane1808
@dvskane1808 9 ай бұрын
I think you got a bad one. All the bergaras I’ve shot are for sure 1 moa. My Crest 300wm is .5 moa with factory terminal ascents.
@mr.mr.3301
@mr.mr.3301 10 ай бұрын
So with a carbon barrel you get something that still weighs more than a tikka. From my research carbon barrels are just pencil thin barrels with carbon for rigidity.
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
This is why I never buy commercial push down the assembly line guns because none of them shoot well and there is NO quality control over barrels just make a few thousand barrels over the same rifling button calling the barrels good to go. Before going over to specialize in building AR 10s I was buying from Pawn shops very good Mauser 98 actions on full rifles then strip down the rifles just for the actions then building Highly accurate rifles on the time-tested fool proof Mauser 98 actions using Pac Nor super match barrels - Boyds stocks - Timney triggers. When you have your own rifle built you get what you wanted in accuracy
@vincecavazos8522
@vincecavazos8522 10 ай бұрын
You should do a review on Christiansen ridgline fft!!!!!
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Did a christensen ridgeline it wasn't great. Shot decent but ejected wrong
@ericaustin7536
@ericaustin7536 5 ай бұрын
My bergara premier series shoots quarter to half in groups all day it's an approach
@markseawright2418
@markseawright2418 9 ай бұрын
Seeing how you shot I can see how you are not that accurate
@dbeardsley0
@dbeardsley0 10 ай бұрын
Got a 300prc wilderness ridge, 22 year model. Mine shoots lights out. I'd say that one is a lemon, not many of those from Bergara
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
It seems to be improving very slowly but man it's been a tough one
@edwardabrams4972
@edwardabrams4972 10 ай бұрын
You might rethink your saying NOT TO MANY if you read the comments of other owners! Know one should pay that kind of money and get a lemon!
@tWo_fOoT_oNiOn_1775
@tWo_fOoT_oNiOn_1775 6 ай бұрын
2/2 were lemons for me
@chrislang5659
@chrislang5659 10 ай бұрын
I remember Matt Hoover was all excited about getting a carbon fiber barrel he fought it for a couple of weeks and eventually gave it away. Wrapping a barrel in anything seems as it would throw harmonics off pretty bad! I have a pellet rifle with a moderator that is pressed on the full length of the barrel, best group is 1.5" 20 yards😅 I'll probably cut all the plastic off and see if that helps anything! ❤
@zacwoodward6054
@zacwoodward6054 9 ай бұрын
Your first statement about barrel wrapping may be accurate, I don't know. But your second statement is a pretty big generalization and shrouded airgun barrels may (?) have nothing in common with a carbon wrapped barrel as shrouds aren't supposed to be in much contact with the barrel. I have a pellet rifle with a full length shroud and suppressor (Daystate Huntsman XL .22) and it shoots single hole groups at 40 yards.
@dietrichjohnson9556
@dietrichjohnson9556 10 ай бұрын
I would throw this out as a question and thought. Just having a sample size of Bergara and Springfield. It seems to me 30 Caliber and Carbon barrels don't play well together. Both seem to be very picky on what they shoot well and the rest is not impressive. 6.5 PRC, 6.5 CR in carbon barrels from those 2 companies seem to shoot lights out and are not finiky eaters. My thoughts are I would buy a rifle with a carbon fiber stock but I am done with rifles with carbon wrapped barrels. The notion that 30 cal. carbon fiber wrapped barrels are inheritly accurate seems to be a myth not fact. Was Bergara Customer Service willing to RMA the rifle?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Idk I have a 308 and two 300 prc rifles that do ok with carbon wrapped barrels.
@MontanaWild78
@MontanaWild78 10 ай бұрын
Some barrels need more break in and rounds down range before they tighten up. Nothing to cry about
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Yeah 500 dollars and over 20 hrs sucks
@primalj_2a433
@primalj_2a433 6 ай бұрын
The hell it isn't. That's bullshit
@WilliamHoppes
@WilliamHoppes 3 ай бұрын
Sorry you had bad luck I own a few Bergaras and they all shoot under moa and some shoot half moa.
@terrysharp4376
@terrysharp4376 8 ай бұрын
Start hand loading and I bet you'll be amazed at the group,s
@corygipson5426
@corygipson5426 6 ай бұрын
I have that rifle in 6.5 prc and it shoots sub moa, if you don't go through their break in process you will struggle to be accurate.
@pizzahunter808
@pizzahunter808 10 ай бұрын
Do a search on the internet. Not shocking from Bergarbage
@primalj_2a433
@primalj_2a433 6 ай бұрын
I have a bergara wilderness 308. After 2 sets of rings 2 different premium scopes a leupold mark5 and a vortex razor gen 2 and 5 different kinds of premium ammo 168 gr to 175gr i couldn't get it to shoot a group of 3 under 4 inches at 100 yds. Sent it back and it took them 4 months to get it back to me after they told me it would take 2 weeks. I will never ever own a bergara or recommended them to anyone one. It was a POS and their customer service was horrible
@DP69264
@DP69264 6 ай бұрын
Chambered in what? Did I miss it or did he not say it?
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 6 ай бұрын
300 win mag
@joshuahedum9563
@joshuahedum9563 2 ай бұрын
Great review. Saved me from blowing $1300…
@skidoo800ba
@skidoo800ba 9 ай бұрын
I watched your shooting style looks to me it could be partially you
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 9 ай бұрын
I'd agree if it was one range trip but 3 or 4 trips and lots of off cam shooting. I shot other almost identical rifles the same range trips sub .5 moa
@Antjohns89
@Antjohns89 9 ай бұрын
What you said was key is first shot is all that matters lol
@ssimossimo576
@ssimossimo576 9 ай бұрын
I have had experience with 7 bergaras (mine and my brothers), plus i have seen many other in the hands of friends. Never seen one not shooting very well. Bergaras are generally picky with ammo but, with the right load or reloading, they are very, very accurate. I own 3 at the moment. A 308 b14 hunter which shoot 0.3 MOA all day with geco sp, a 308 b14 hunter in a aftermarket stock which shoot easily half MOA with nosler ballietic tip and federal loaded with berger hybrids and 0.4-0.5 MOA with the geco sp. All this is with factory ammo. I still have to make a handload, it will shoot amazingly. I also have a 308 single shot ba13 which, with its 16 inch barrel, incredibly shoots 0.5 MOA at 300 yards with geco sp factory ammo. They are all pretty picky with ammo i have to say but if you find the right seathing depth and load your own ammo they are tack drivers. In 5 years of intensive hunting and shooting at the range with approximatively 3000 rounds through these barrels, i still have to witness a breakage or a malfunction
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
I am getting a laugh at how crappy these Bergaras rifles are and your comment how picky they and the tinkering to try to get them to shoot well. After I stopped building custom bolt rifles then I move to building Highly custom AR 10s using Pac Nor supper match barrels and I chamber all of the WSM magnums plus wildcat reloader cartridges in my AR 10 uppers I sell. Never do my AR 10 upper give me problems or are picky on different loads. My own AR 10 I've done in a reloader cartridge of a 375 -300 WSM just shot a 6-round group of Speet Hot core 270 grain 375 cal bullets at 150 yards with a 1/2-inch group and does the rifle care where the bullets are seated? NO ! Do the types of powders or powder charges matter for this AR 10 - 375 - 300 WSM ? NO! When first trying to find powder charges for this 375-300 WSM I started using 35 Wheelen load data and even then, after site in I was putting 300 grain PPU round Noise FMJ bullets into near same hole @ 80 yards. Evey time I upped the powder charges looking for top end powder charge for this load the point of aim stayed consistent. This is why I use a Highly recognized custom barrel maker Pac Nor Barrels for consistent accuracy. Take your commercial build rifles then pull off the barrels then have well-known and respected custom barrels put on the rifles to end all the headaches of rifles shooting all over the targets.
@ssimossimo576
@ssimossimo576 7 ай бұрын
@@Lure-Benson i have never had a bergara shooting all over the target, i just try to find a load that shoots half MOA or so. Most commercial rifles are picky if you look for thi kind of accuracy. That said, for long range hunting i have a 9k custom rifle. So you are not the only one to know that a custom rifle will generally shoot better than a commercial one. At 80 yards (75 meters) "near the same hole is pretty crappy performance for someone who brags about his custom barrels with strangers like you. Who shoots at 80 yards, i shoot only .22 lr at that distance ahah! That said, since you are so sure and experiences about Bergaras being crappy, how many do you own/have owned? Do you have any first hand experience? If you say that changing powder/powder charge/seating depth won't impact ANY rifles performance with a certain load, you are proving you don't know ANYTHING about precision shooting. As you can see above, my bergaras deliver excellent accuracy also with factory ammo, i was just saying that, in order to get the maximum out of a certain choosen BULLET, you have to play with powder charge and seathing depth. But these are very complicated dynamics that one will understand inly if he shoots past 80 yards.. Now go back to shoot you ultra super mega custom AR10s from your concrete bench with an oversized chair for your surely overweight ass :)
@Mex_the_Fox
@Mex_the_Fox 9 ай бұрын
Guys, Bergaras MUST be bedded... Out of the box the stocks are not precise enough
@foonus406
@foonus406 7 ай бұрын
This was an issue with my Premiere HMR Pro in 300PRC. Aluminum in the stock was oversprayed and made poor surface contact with the action. Aluminum pocket for the recoil lug was WAY oversized for a standard lug they use with it (you could see where the lug was smashing into the right side of the pocket and deforming it. As well the whole action was bound up on the rear bolt because the pilar was drilled at an angle. Bergara's reputation has always been for quality barrels.. from what I have seen they are really dropping the ball when it comes to stocks and fitment.. I don't know, but would not be surprised if the barreled actions are accuracy tested on test rig before they are installed in the stock. That said, its a sub 1/2 minute rifle now that the issues are solved and its bedded, unfortunately being a 300 PRC, substantial barrel life was wasted trying to troubleshoot and solve what should have never been an issue in a premium advertised product.
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
Then why buy one of these rifles when it takes allot of tinkering to make them shot fair ?
@Mex_the_Fox
@Mex_the_Fox 7 ай бұрын
@@Lure-Benson fair point... I prefer Tikka over Bergara by far... But I liked the stock of the Bergara Crest... But I will probably not buy another...
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
@@Mex_the_Fox Since the mastering of Building AR 10 rifles and using 80% lowers my bolt guns are just looking at rifles. I have chamberings in my AR 10s in 6mm-284 Win - 6.5-284 Norma and a 375-300 WSM. I may do next for AR 10 the 325 WSM. Using Pac Nor supper match barrels I never have any problems getting 1/4 inch groups when one of these AR 10s is done and sited in. The AR 10 I use allot in 375 - 300 WSM I just shot 6- 270 grain 375 Speer hot core bullets to a 1/2 group at 150 yards. This is a cartridge that matches the commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum.
@Weatherby406
@Weatherby406 10 ай бұрын
A 1 inch guarantee means if you shoot enough 3 shot groups it will eventually shoot a sub 1 inch group. Not every time. Nothing more than Clever marketing
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Lol right
@davidpkm
@davidpkm 9 ай бұрын
He shot a group where they were all touching, what’s the problem? You expect tighter than 1 hole?
@danc8363
@danc8363 4 ай бұрын
Carbon fiber is never a good range rifle why? Carbon is insulation for heat. It takes forever to cool.
@jeffreyd513
@jeffreyd513 7 ай бұрын
Carbon barrels are junk. I don’t care who u are. I’ve seen way too many junk carbon barrels and very few good ones. Im not paying almost a grand for a 50/50 chance it’ll shoot like a shotgun. Had several proof carbon barrels that were garbage as well
@foonus406
@foonus406 7 ай бұрын
The day someone wins an F-Class championship with a carbon fiber barrel is the day I will consider switching...
@Lure-Benson
@Lure-Benson 7 ай бұрын
I like the comment you made and exactly why when I build all my rifles, I am using Pac Nor super match barrels. The Pac Nor barrels never fail to outperform my expectations of the rifles I build. I also like Douglas air gauge barrels that never fail to outperform what I expected.
@7mmalltheway
@7mmalltheway 3 ай бұрын
I ran into a gentleman who sent his Savage 110 to a carbon wrapping (barrel) service in NJ(maybe) and the rifle came back as an one holler. The barrel looked like a base ball bat😂 so I did not consider, but it really showcased what carbon wrapping can do. If you really consider carbon barrel, this route might be right one.
@joshsinglefooter
@joshsinglefooter 7 ай бұрын
Pull the action off. Where the action screws to the stock, it has paint on it. Get some sand paper and thank me later.
@strongmakeit6244
@strongmakeit6244 6 ай бұрын
Take it back my ruger shoots better . For 650.00 bucks
@johnandrosemarywyatt977
@johnandrosemarywyatt977 10 ай бұрын
Trying to be all things to all people doesn't work. They need to stay in their lane.
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 10 ай бұрын
Uh?
@dholiday9315
@dholiday9315 7 ай бұрын
First off, that’s just a .300 magnum. They are picky, find the round it likes and dial it in. Second, what the hell is a “Meg”? And when he says “megnum” does he mean magnum? 😂 Damn Yankees can’t talk right. Haha
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