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Is a $30 Bicycle Tool Kit Worthless?

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Today we're going to look at a very capable $350 Mountain Bike Tool Kit made by Feedback Sports, and compare it to a $30 Repair kit sold at Walmart. This is by no means an apples to apples comparison, but it's still interesting. What mountain bike repairs could we expect each of these to be capable of? What is the quality difference? Today we're going to test them out and see.
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@everyhandletaken
@everyhandletaken Ай бұрын
Both kits are great in their own way, for their respective buyers, I feel. Great to see that the Ozark kit is of decent enough quality, to be genuinely usable in virtually every way.
@johnlawrencebello93
@johnlawrencebello93 Ай бұрын
It's good enough for daily commuters that want to service their own bike once in a while
@iddra1868
@iddra1868 Ай бұрын
Yeah I honestly have no idea what the point of this video is.
@zwicker5585
@zwicker5585 Ай бұрын
@@iddra1868have you read the title? Or looked at the thumbnail?
@TheBRad704
@TheBRad704 Ай бұрын
I'm about 7 years into working from my BikeHand simple toolkit, but I've used every opportunity to upgrade random tools along the way.
@FordRangerClassics
@FordRangerClassics 8 күн бұрын
I always say your best building something by parts you need instead of having a 70% useless pre built kit ​@@TheBRad704
@TheLifeOfJavi
@TheLifeOfJavi Ай бұрын
I think it's also worth commending Walmart for releasing an affordable tool kit under the Ozark Trail brand. It will get someone started, and just further solidifies their support for getting people out on bikes.
@rishiklal1757
@rishiklal1757 Ай бұрын
Please bring back cooking with Seth
@Ye-bu5dn
@Ye-bu5dn Ай бұрын
Frrr
@DealWithTheDevil.
@DealWithTheDevil. Ай бұрын
cooking with seth while answering questions would be fun to watch.
@k9kayaks
@k9kayaks Ай бұрын
I remember his TacoTuesday videos those were great
@3_x_plus_1
@3_x_plus_1 Ай бұрын
Cooking meth with Seth!
@akissparaskevopoulos
@akissparaskevopoulos Ай бұрын
@@3_x_plus_1lol
@THX5000
@THX5000 Ай бұрын
I just bought tools as I needed them, but either of these kits would make a great gift to a new cyclist.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Ай бұрын
That's how I did it as well. I would research how to perform a particular repair or maintenance task, and buy only the tools I needed. It has been about three years, but now I have a reasonably complete kit that allows me to do anything I need on my bike. I don't know how much it cost me in total, so it's possible that a quality all-in-one kit from the likes of Feedback Sports or Park would be more economical.
@counternub40
@counternub40 Ай бұрын
I did the same, but not out of choice Completely rebuilt my old bike to learn how to maintain my new bike and ended up doing a million runs to the shop because I kept running into blockers 😂
@kzl303syko
@kzl303syko Ай бұрын
For the price of the Ozark trail set, if you have issues with any of the tools, you can always spend extra on a better wrench to swap out. It's a starting point for a tool set.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Ай бұрын
The only problem is that if you're serious about maintaining and repairing your own bike, you're eventually going to upgrade 100% of the tools in a budget kit, but I suppose it's a start.
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 Ай бұрын
@@Durwood71imo better to buy a multi-tool like the Crankbrothers m19 and buy individual tools as needed ... You can always use the multi-tool, and create your own kit. That Walmart one, while good for what it is, you'll need a separate kit for storage since that's pre-fitted. And a lot depends on how much you work on your own bike. My first couple years I didn't even change my own tires, and tightening things, replacing grips, saddle, brake pads or even handlebars was pretty much the only work I did, so the the multi-tool was perfect. Nowadays I work on both my bikes, plus my son's and best friend's, and do pretty much everything other then pressfit bottom brackets, headsets and wheel building (I gave up on my Byrd spokes and had to bring them in ... I just wasn't confident that I was doing it right). Anyway, makes sense for me to spend a lot on tools cause I use them so often.
@xavierc9171
@xavierc9171 Ай бұрын
Upgrading each of these tools is what I did few decades ago. But none of the upgraded tools fit in the box. So I soon needed a big toolbox to fit everything and now its a mess. I need to dig whenever I need a tool or to spread them on the floor. Anyway its a huge waste of time at the end of the repair session
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Ай бұрын
@@xavierc9171 That's why I replaced my tool bag with one that has numerous inside pockets so my tools aren't just lying in a big heap at the bottom.
@blortslompson2388
@blortslompson2388 Ай бұрын
Just bought the Ozark Trail kit to start messing around with bikes. It's great to have some starting tools to putz around with
@jamesweldon8118
@jamesweldon8118 Ай бұрын
30$ is actually a great value for someone’s first toolkit
@Top_Gun_Maverick_Enjoyer
@Top_Gun_Maverick_Enjoyer Ай бұрын
Hey I've been watching your videos for about a month and a half and just got my first bike as wanted one so I could go fishing with my friend, Then I started researching and found your videos and I would like to say thank you for the high quality videos and teaching me everything to know about bikes!
@Duncan23
@Duncan23 Ай бұрын
That is actually fairly good value for $350, it's obvious where the extra money is going they are so much better in design and manufacturing quality, although for $30 you can't go wrong with the Walmart one as a starter tool kit.
@rekamniar
@rekamniar Ай бұрын
@@Duncan23 The good thing with those is that 1 tool is equivalent to 2 or three tools. They really did thought about it
@rekamniar
@rekamniar Ай бұрын
@@Duncan23 The good thing with those is that 1 tool is equivalent to 2 or three tools. They really did thought about it
@unnamedracer9757
@unnamedracer9757 Ай бұрын
I have the $30 kit (broke college student) and have been using it for a year or so. It’s pretty solid other than the hex wrenches in the multitool. At one point I had to cut the end of the 5mm hex down because the tip got so rounded off. I’ve also tried all kinds of tools to cut cables as well, but eventually gave in to the Park Tools cable cutters.
@somebodyelse5
@somebodyelse5 Ай бұрын
I still use some of my 15 year old blow molded cheap kit that my dad gave me in college. The tire levers, the chain whip, the old school crank puller. some of it's works just fine. i hear the shimano cable cutter tool is pretty good. It's hard to compete with companies like Wera on allen keys... a pro set from Wera (with the hex plus) will make your life better, you'll KOM on your next ride, and they'll cook you dinner.
@joshuaanothereraseddad
@joshuaanothereraseddad Ай бұрын
2 minutes in and I'm like that tool case strapping to a bike stand is not gimmicky. That's actually pretty clutch for real.
@owenneedham4651
@owenneedham4651 Ай бұрын
Hey Seth! My name's Owen and I'm 15 years old. My dad and I are going to ride Pisgah this month. We live in Thailand and we're visiting family. We decided that we wanted to go for a ride while we were here. We were wondering if you would be interested in coming. If not no problem, just thought I'd ask you for the heck of it 😂. Also if you've ever thought about making a video about mountain biking in Asia, Thailand would be the perfect place (we have a guest room without an occupant if you would wanna come).
@rekamniar
@rekamniar Ай бұрын
Having tools that you immediately know will work and is comfortable makes working on your bikes more fun.
@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr
@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr Ай бұрын
true, but if a kid wants to learn how to work on his own little bike, would be great to buy this for em. it's cheap and works well enough
@MarioGoatse
@MarioGoatse Ай бұрын
Agreed. I use Wera Hex and Torx Keys. Pedro's Vice Whip 2. Knipex pliers and cobra pliers, a set of Capri Ultra thin Wrenches (3.5mm max thickness) and a Lezyne torque stick with a Sata Torque wrench. I can't stand low quality tools. More trouble than they're worth IMO
@THEGEEK2001
@THEGEEK2001 Ай бұрын
That fact that he can afford to Buy it is critical. £30 I could do as a 14 year old. 300, no. That's bike money.​@@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr
@rekamniar
@rekamniar Ай бұрын
@@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr true that. I only have a small gripe on the walmart chain whip tool and BB remover coz I have experience in using those tools. Cheap bb remover is painful to hold even with those rubber handle. Not fun at all
@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr
@ahmedmohamed-ku2xr Ай бұрын
@@MarioGoatse as much as i agree with you, it's better a kid learns with not top-tier tools, makes them appreciate good tools more, also kids are more likely to lose stuff quick, could be bad with expensive tools.
@JK-ki7yv
@JK-ki7yv Ай бұрын
I used some cheap kit to fully rebuild my bike during covid. Had some struggles with the kit but it was good enough for someone who is not professional mechanic and disasemble my bike once a year. Cheap Kit is still going great
@CodSlap
@CodSlap Ай бұрын
W00p! That Feedback Sports kit is great - I bought mine back in 2017. That ’buy once, cry once, pass on to your offspring’ -mentality was exactly what I was going for. No surprises the quality is great on all the main tools - as it should be for that price. The kit has gone up in price around USD 55 in these 7 years. Less than I thought, actually. Really glad I bought it when I did - life happened, and today I wouldn’t be able to afford it anymore.
@RobBrewerSARGuy
@RobBrewerSARGuy Ай бұрын
That blow-molded kit is almost exactly the same as one I bought over 10 years ago for about $30. Mine is lime green. It was an easy way to get most of what I needed. Since then, my toolbox has grown substantially.
@jonathanmeyer1164
@jonathanmeyer1164 Ай бұрын
After i bought a bike after binge watching your videos, i bought the Ozark Trail kit because i wanted to take my new to me bike all the way down to the frame and service and rebuild everything. I needed some specialty tools that i didn't have, so i grabbed this kit. So far, my only gripe was with the cassette tool. It doesn't work the greatest with freewheels. I had to grind it down to fit. I also reused an older toolbox to keep all my bike specific tools in. But other than that, it's been a solid tool kit.
@grantschoen1726
@grantschoen1726 Ай бұрын
11:57 one other nice thing about the feedback tool on the rotor lock-ring is that the arm is offset a bit & won't rub on the rotor at all. The Park Tool one I use is flat & have to be careful not to scrape or rub the rotor. Great review!
@AleksAndonov-hs4mc
@AleksAndonov-hs4mc Ай бұрын
one day my grandma said to me we are poor that's why we buy expensive honestly the best advice in my life
@topspot4834
@topspot4834 Ай бұрын
Depends what it is, doesn't apply to a lot of things, but I get the point and she's definitely right. Take dress shoes for instance. A pair of $300 shoes will feel so much better, look a lot nicer and last way longer than a cheap pair of $50 shoes (assuming they're properly cared for). Same deal with a lotta bike components, apparel, helmets and certainly tools.
@somebodyelse5
@somebodyelse5 Ай бұрын
Did your grandma own a snapon truck? don't go inside one of those trucks, it will make you poor!
@kyleessex6301
@kyleessex6301 Ай бұрын
When I found out about cassette pliers (WAY TOO LATE in my cycling life).. GAME CHANGER. Haven't gouged my hands since, it was almost a ritual that I get cut when changing cassettes.
@unnamedracer9757
@unnamedracer9757 Ай бұрын
I may be getting a part time job at a bike shop in the next month or so, these tool videos are incredibly helpful.
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589
@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 Ай бұрын
where you'll have tools 3x the quality of these at your elbow.
@unnamedracer9757
@unnamedracer9757 Ай бұрын
@@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 I like to have my own basic set of tools, even if it’s not strictly necessary. That’s really the only way you can guarantee a tool is going to be where you expect it when you expect it unless you work alone.
@unnamedracer9757
@unnamedracer9757 Ай бұрын
@@zygmuntthecacaokakistocrat6589 only if people actually put them back where they are supposed to be when they’re done with it. If I’ve learned anything from working in an automotive shop, shared tools tend to disappear rather quickly.
@jayhiggins5239
@jayhiggins5239 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the full comparison video.
@ChrisLoew
@ChrisLoew Ай бұрын
I have the feedback tool kit, would buy again and has been perfect for repairing bikes, only extra purchase has been torque for 4 5 and 6 in lbs for sterring tube etc and adjustable wrench (1.75in) for sterring tube nuts.
@silvagc
@silvagc Ай бұрын
I've bought a similar kit from Lidl, and it is a quick way to start working on bicycles at home and replace or buy new tools as needed. Not for professional uses!
@maxwelltaylor5699
@maxwelltaylor5699 18 күн бұрын
Man, I was quite literally about to search for a video reviewing these when it popped up. Thanks Seth!
@LoreTunderin
@LoreTunderin Ай бұрын
The nice thing about the cheaper tool kit is you don't feel bad about upgrading the tools you use most. It's so inexpensive that you won't get buyer's remorse, and it has just enough of the specialty tools you won't often need that it's worth keeping around, even if it's just as a backup for a more expensive set you upgrade to later on. It never hurts to have a fallback considering luggage gets lost, things get misplaced, and mean people steal things every day.
@mumakin1
@mumakin1 Ай бұрын
I'm loving the tool videos! Can't wait for the next ones
@WoutSnl
@WoutSnl Ай бұрын
Sometimes Seth surprises me with his lack of knowledge of some cheap tools. Such as the cone wrenches and the Force Steel black tools, which are not intended to loosen a pedal, but only to hold a cone during adjustment, which requires considerably less force. Also the chain tool where he had not adjusted the adjusting screw on the other side of the chain at all, causing the cams to bend
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC 26 күн бұрын
He strikes me as good-intentioned, but he's also been using big-$$$-brand tools for years, so when he interacts with something that isn't quite on that level he's out of his depth
@dann5480
@dann5480 Ай бұрын
Seth, you should review the Decathlon Rockrider ST540. It retails for 450 bucks and comes with decent components. I'd like to see what you think about it.
@surfinshredder
@surfinshredder Ай бұрын
The BikeHand $200 tool kit has served me well for years barring specialty suspension and BB tools.
@zedtony8110
@zedtony8110 Ай бұрын
Yep I've had one for 15 years and only the crank puller I had to replace
@justindurand9110
@justindurand9110 Ай бұрын
I just commented on Bike Hand. I got my set about 4 years ago and am very impressed with the quality and value.
@jameslance7710
@jameslance7710 Ай бұрын
Wow. This is super timely for me. I can’t wait to see the follow up head to head vid. I’ve been eyeing several of the kits that you sneak-peeked at the end.
@NonLegitNation2
@NonLegitNation2 Ай бұрын
you are 100% correct about the pick. i actually use a hook pick whenever I have to remove my chain, it really helps when having to thread the chain through the RD.
@rossnavarro2591
@rossnavarro2591 24 күн бұрын
Very interesting to have found the Joshua Bardwell of mountain biking. I could watch both of y'all's stuff forever.
@tshadow6
@tshadow6 Ай бұрын
I have the Ozark Trail kit from Walmart. I paid about $25 for it. I used it to remove the rear tire of my nephew’s bike. The included tire levers made changing the tube easy. Ozark Trail tools are for DIY occasional use. If you work at a bike shop, get the $350 set.
@Josukegaming
@Josukegaming Ай бұрын
I actually have a very similar kit to the walmart kit that I bought used in the Netherlands for $20, had almost everything I needed to fully fix a bike! I've just bought the occasional high quality tool to add to my collection, saved SO much money.
@keliboucher3257
@keliboucher3257 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making this. I have an old Spin Doctor blow plastic tool kit that I've had for years. I've been researching tools because I want to upgrade a little after watching all your other videos. I feel ready to tinker a bit more. I am really looking forward to the next video comparing more tool kits.
@BrysonBrideau
@BrysonBrideau Ай бұрын
Just got back from the hospital after breaking my collarbone, love watching the videos!
@dillydean
@dillydean Ай бұрын
we have one of those feedback kits and it is in a lot older shape! haha nice to see one new. we love ours and its absolutely the best kit.
@CinematicJack7
@CinematicJack7 Ай бұрын
I recently have been wanting to service my bike myself and these videos are soooooo helpful. Well done Seth. love it👍🤙
@paul_miller43
@paul_miller43 Ай бұрын
One of the best things you told us all to go with any bike An F15 multi tool
@1pho3nixmatt
@1pho3nixmatt Ай бұрын
I have been using a super similar cheap a$$ tool kit for years. I'm no bike mechanic, but wrench on them plenty. Super handy to have all those tools for a low cost, and work well enough if you don't treat them like garbage and don't use them everyday. Obviously have gotten other ones to replace some of the tools, and others not included, but it works great for me.
@konradgro5881
@konradgro5881 Ай бұрын
I got the Feedback Sports Kit. I even upgraded it with the T-Handle-Set from Feedback Sports. I absolutely love ist. You get so many good(!) tools in a relatively small set. And I often work outdoors, even when I am working at home. Being able to put the bag onto the repair stand and have perfect access on all tools without going or grabbing somewhere else, is the best option to me. It is expensive. You can get many more tools for the money. But your test shows perfectly, that the money is well spend. To be fair: It only is my set for outdoor use. In my garage I got many more tools and work with them. It still is the best thought-through-kit I know.
@noodlesatf
@noodlesatf Ай бұрын
I have zero need to buy an all encompassing toolkit, since I have my home setup and don't ever find myself wrenching at an event. However, I watch every single one of your tool videos for the occasional cool tip or neat tool that I might need. In this case, it was that Feedback Sports cassette tool. Removing the top plug from air forks is annoying, as is pulling endcaps from wheels to remove a CL rotor. I just bought that tool because of this video.
@joegeorgia8989
@joegeorgia8989 Ай бұрын
The walmart set reminds me of the Nashbar set from mid 90s.
@n1tr0kt
@n1tr0kt 8 күн бұрын
When's the video comparing all the major brand tool kits coming out? What a tease! I love your videos, thanks!
@trelane751
@trelane751 Күн бұрын
Not enough people are buying Parktool or Pedro's kits. The Parktool Equivalent of that Feedback Sports kit in the video is literally $1000 minimum
@riskybiscuits7361
@riskybiscuits7361 8 күн бұрын
I'm finding it tough to justify spending $350 on a tool kit for a hobby I'm just starting out with. On the other hand, I've spent $400 on a drill kit for work without any regrets. Bike repair is new territory for me, and not having the right tools is a big setback when trying to figure out what I need. In my experience, better tools often make the work easier and more enjoyable. I guess I'm trying to convince myself that it's worth investing a few more hundred dollars into this hobby! Thanks for breaking down what comes with each kit.
@Cyclingismywholelife
@Cyclingismywholelife Ай бұрын
I’ve purchased tools as I need them, and they go in a tool box. As my experience and types of job varies the more tools I acquire. Some tools are specialty which only have one use, there is no point to take them in a kit but great to have in a tool box that I can take with me to do repairs on friends bikes. Each kit out there has its uses depending on what you are doing, I have a food injector in my kit that I use to lube bearings. Not needed on the road but great for repairs.
@silvermannnnnnn
@silvermannnnnnn Ай бұрын
I have no need for bike tools. If I did I’d probably go overkill and buy anything Milwaukee or better. I do however have a need for these videos by Seth. Each and every tool description has its own comforting vibe.
@seanpeine9258
@seanpeine9258 Ай бұрын
Oh good more excited for the next video!
@mikeburgh3956
@mikeburgh3956 Ай бұрын
I bought all my tools 1 by 1. But I do want that feedback cassette pliers!! Great vid Seth 🤙🏻
@jacoboortizdeurbina7482
@jacoboortizdeurbina7482 Ай бұрын
I cannot wait for this series, I was just getting decided on which tool box to buy and I felt a bit lost given the wiiiiide range of tools and uses there are
@tvon4966
@tvon4966 14 күн бұрын
I picked this up from walmart because it was the only store open that carried a cassette removal tool:), I usually go to the bike shop close by and they let me use theirs, but THIS KIT IS GREAT!
@brienakers3533
@brienakers3533 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the videos Seth. I have a few people that I look forward to seeing new stuff from and you are probably my favorite! I so thought you were going to shred your knuckles on that rotor, good call skipping that.
@PeterVCook
@PeterVCook Ай бұрын
I was served a Walmart ad while watching this video. Probably no coincidence.
@climbing-or-coasting301
@climbing-or-coasting301 Ай бұрын
It's good to know that these bike tools from Walmart are at least up to the task in a pinch. And you sure can't beat the availability!
@ramiroolarte7169
@ramiroolarte7169 27 күн бұрын
As a technician and hand work enthusiast, i think blow moulded cases are the best choice if the content worths, like a Bahco tubes set. They keep everything in place and are easy to pile with other tens of different cases. Soft cases always ends broken, the elastic bands loosens and the tools flies all over the place...
@shawnmurphy6657
@shawnmurphy6657 26 күн бұрын
This is what I worry about. 5 years down the road will the elastic still hold?
@ramiroolarte7169
@ramiroolarte7169 26 күн бұрын
@@shawnmurphy6657 no, they won't. Unless you use the tools only twice a year... But even in that case, just the chemical composition of the rubber will tear down...
@willfromfreeport
@willfromfreeport Ай бұрын
I actually have the feedback kit. Got it from REI on sale plus 20% off. Love it.
@Bu5t3R
@Bu5t3R Ай бұрын
Great video! I work at my LBS occasionally so I have access to all the tools when I am doing big things but at home I have 7 bikes and growing. Several of the bikes are mine but not all. I have been wanting to buy tools for my garage to maintain all of the bikes. Sometimes we just want to ride as a family and not have to hall the bikes to the shop. I also don’t want to spend a fortune and this video had me asking… what kit is in between the 2. Glad I watched until the end. I can’t wait to see what’s next from your channel.
@brandoncampbell3432
@brandoncampbell3432 Ай бұрын
i bought a similar toolkit to the ozark trail at princess auto. the whole point for me was to have the tools while I bought better ones slowly over time. great for that purpose.
@micaman33
@micaman33 Ай бұрын
I use a set of parallel, jaw, pliers for truing brake rotors, they’re also nice for holding parts when using grinding wheels.
@ordinarypeople801
@ordinarypeople801 Ай бұрын
That's very clever marketing! :) I love it! :) :)
@camt1818
@camt1818 Ай бұрын
I bought that same cheap kit at a flea market about 10 years ago. Maybe paid $15. Definitely got some use out of it. Still use the crank extractor, multitool, and spoke wrench to this day!
@MissingLinkMTB
@MissingLinkMTB Ай бұрын
Been a mechanic for over 30 years and definitely with tools, buy once, cry once. However, you can find decent enough quality for an average user elsewhere, perhaps in that Ozark Trail kit. I'd rather have individual allen's with a ball end or the multi tool if those were my only options instead of the 'y' wrenches. However, I do use my Y's quite a bit, but there's a lot of times it's frustrating using them or they just can't be used. Thankfully Feedback Sports has extra storage slots. I think the Ozark Trail kit fits the bill, a kid or adult that doesn't have the disposable income to buy the Feedback kit, whereas the Feedback kit, if you're going to do your own service, is what you need to be buying. This kit wasn't even on my radar, thanks for sharing with us. I definitely look forward to the comparison video of all the kits!
@Csapi007
@Csapi007 Ай бұрын
I’ve been given a tool box like the basic one as a gift once, never used it. Had all the tools already as separate pieces, in better quality.
@brdworkshop2891
@brdworkshop2891 Ай бұрын
Can`t wait to see all another sets )))
@AmvC
@AmvC Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. Wobbly "CenterLock" / "HollowTech2" Bottom Bracket tools are a nightmare to use on disc brake locking rings 😨😨😨 $350 is nothing compared to a sliced up hand. And you get other tools as well!
@Vincent-_-123
@Vincent-_-123 Ай бұрын
Congrats on the 1 million.
@miloontheready7814
@miloontheready7814 Ай бұрын
I have wrenched on many bikes using a kit similar to the Ozark Trails kit. But I also get higher end tools, such as Park Tools as I can afford them. Had to get a real tool-box to carry them all now, but it works for me.
@vk2icj
@vk2icj Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the comparison video
@jeffsprague96
@jeffsprague96 Ай бұрын
Those cheapo sets are great to supplement a set of good general mechanic tools with the bike-specific stuff. I already own Tekton, Wera, Knipex, Klein, etc for general car and home repair so to get all the other stuff that only has one use on bikes for little cost is perfect. Then upgrade certain tools as time goes on
@drumbrakes
@drumbrakes Ай бұрын
It feels like a pair of workshop gloves would be a good extra to go with the Ozark kit. Something to protect your hands when the tools slip! Not just because they are lower quality and more likely to slip, but because the person using that kit is likely to have less experience and coordination using the tools and doesn't yet have the tough skin you get from years of spanner rash! It's a great kit that would let you buy a cheap used bike then do it up, maintain it an upgrade it yourself. You could get yourself a reasonable bike for less than the cost of the feedback kit. Yet for a skilled bike mechanic with the Feedback Kit, a stand, and a box of consumables, you could run a pop-up workshop and earn that money back again.
@jameswilson2815
@jameswilson2815 22 күн бұрын
Seth, you're amazing. Everytime I'm thinking about something, you make a killer video about it. Life is good !! Aloha bra. 😎🤙
@Laurinmtb
@Laurinmtb Ай бұрын
The 30$ is actually a good value especially for those that start at mountain biking
@user-kp3uf2zf7e
@user-kp3uf2zf7e Ай бұрын
Hi Seth,I hope you have a great day!!! Keep up the great work!!!
@drengskap
@drengskap Ай бұрын
Locking cassette pliers - I need those. I'm not going to buy the whole kit, but I need those pliers.
@TheoreticalCyclist
@TheoreticalCyclist Ай бұрын
In Europe we have a few similar sets available in Lidl/Aldi/Decathlon. I also made a review from the Lidl Crivit set, and they are hard to beat at this price point(the Crivit bike repair stand is also a must have item).User will save a ton of money with them, if he/she has the confidence jumping into doing repairs on their own. With only a bb change and casette and chain service it will save the cost of the whole toolset.
@islandtime2372
@islandtime2372 Ай бұрын
I bought the exact same 30 dollar tool kit from Walmart and put on a sram gx cassette no problem as well as putting on new brake rotors and chain. proof that cheap tools get the job done
@ultraorange1
@ultraorange1 Ай бұрын
Like some of those feedback tools. I’ve been happy with my repair stand.
@MichielCorryn
@MichielCorryn Ай бұрын
I started wirh a generic cheap toolkit that I got as a gift. After trying to use it a few times I got so frustrated with the tools breaking or not being functional that I bought a decent one. That happened to be the feedback sport set: very happy with the upgrade + it was like 80 euros where I bought it 😊
@somewhere0verthere
@somewhere0verthere 13 күн бұрын
I cheap out on the stuff that is easy to make and doesn't get used too often but when it comes to my daily/weekly use tools and some tools I just don't like cheap versions of, I fork up the money for. My unior derailleur hanger tool and my wera ratchet set have been some of my best purchases
@River_Miles
@River_Miles Ай бұрын
Track the pricing on the Feeback Sports kit. I snagged it for $300 a month ago and it was at $270 when first in my cart, then next day jumped back to $350. The quality of the tools and the convenience of the case make it worth it. The case alone is available for $50, not bad for someone who already has some bike tools. The kit includes pretty much everything needed except torque wrench and bits for torque wrench.
@themeatpopsicle
@themeatpopsicle Ай бұрын
I have the Feedback kit. It's... just OK. Great for a car kit but at $350 it's expensive and isn't a good substitute for a well-thought-out toolbox for a race mechanic. I got mine on EP and it lives in my van waiting to be used. Very stylish, though.
@zomz138
@zomz138 Ай бұрын
love the video keep up the good work
@brianfitzgerald5074
@brianfitzgerald5074 Ай бұрын
I love Park Tool but they are really proud of their products.
@MrEcted
@MrEcted Ай бұрын
I'm kind of a Feedback Sports fanboy. I went from some cheap Spin Doctor bike stand to a Pro Elite from Feedback, and it's one of the best QOL upgrades I've ever done for anything! My tool kit is a mishmash. I started with something very similar to the $30 kit, and bought Park Tool versions over time for the stuff that didn't last, or with new tools I always went with Park because you can't really go wrong with them. It would be nice to have a cohesive kit like that Feedback Sports kit though.
@twescher
@twescher Ай бұрын
The elastic wont snap back after years of use so is that better than blow molding? Nice comparison tho
@SergejGrabun
@SergejGrabun Ай бұрын
nice comparison. I cant wait for the video where you review more premium brand tools and medium priced ones. Wanna know how much better are e.g. Park Tool items to warrant such a price hike.
@Piplodocus
@Piplodocus Ай бұрын
Oh, you have no idea how many extra things I can squeeze into a blow-moulded case before the hinges finally burst! 🤣🤣🤣
@Kjedesigns
@Kjedesigns Ай бұрын
Can ypu do a video on where to get miscellaneous screws and bolts to fix rusted screws or stripped bolts?
@wg2060
@wg2060 24 күн бұрын
Started my bike tool journey with the Performance bike Spin Doctor tool box years ago. I think $100 or so for just about everything a home mechanic might need. As parts died or I just wanted better quality, Park, Pedro etc crept into the collection.
@joshosborn35
@joshosborn35 Ай бұрын
With the $30 one you can cut out the inside of the case and put foam inside and you can organise it and maybe get a bit more in, or maybe you can get something bigger for the case and that means you can get a lot more in
@reallybigphilly
@reallybigphilly Ай бұрын
When I started getting serious about MTB, I bought something that looked like the Ozark Trail kit, but from Rose Bikes, and was about 65 Euros at the time - so not anything to brag about price-wise. However, that was 9 years ago and the tool kit still holds up. For a home mechanic, it could not be better. I did add some small stuff to it over the years though, and those extras do not fit in the blow-molded case :) It's only a few items though.
@actualagenda7849
@actualagenda7849 Ай бұрын
I actually have the $30 tool kit, haven’t been too hard on the tools but so far they’ve held up
@tomsmithnosky3408
@tomsmithnosky3408 Ай бұрын
i got a tool back pack then add tools as i get them , and even room for first aid . and some spare parts
@Phillip-polymer
@Phillip-polymer Ай бұрын
17:07 I use my hands 😂
@SJTCoasters
@SJTCoasters Ай бұрын
I have a kit similar to the ozark trail one but with a few more tools. It’s was only around $20-$30 more and the tools are decent quality. The extra $5 for some park tool tire levers was more than worth it though
@george99247
@george99247 Ай бұрын
my grandpa gave me an old toolkit he used for long about 1,5 years ago its about the same as the cheap one in the video but has some more tools, it was very nice to have when i was fixing my bike but i'm still missing some stuff
@simonrook5743
@simonrook5743 Ай бұрын
I started with a cheap kit like that, lasted me about 10 years and stripped or built about 20 bikes. Cassette tool was the first to wear out and the chain breaker broke, but replacing both with something longer lived wasn’t expensive.
@daffhead4975
@daffhead4975 Ай бұрын
For $350 i expect to get a pelican case with custom foam inlace for every tool!
@WafflePlaneRC
@WafflePlaneRC 26 күн бұрын
I only got my first "real" bike recently, and found myself needing the specialty tools to work on it despite having a fairly decent collection of tools for automotive and other hobby type work. The ozark trail kit seemed a decent value, $30 to get me almost everything I would need for basic maintenance, especially the niche items that can't be subbed in with more generic tools. For someone like me that only has one bike, or even someone who has two or three bikes, I think a $350 kit from a bike shop brand is hard to justify, in the automotive world that'd be like going into debt at the snap-on or matco truck just to work on your 2005 Camry. The $30 walmart tool set gets the job done well enough. Worthless, it certainly isn't.
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