Thank you for a very nice review. I just bought the Sennheiser momentum 4, but I will return them and order the Bowers & Wilkins PX8 to get better sound quality. I don't care so much about ANC and Transparency mode quality. The sound quality is the most important for me.
@Dylan-cr5ubАй бұрын
Are the PX8 good with delay in terms of watching KZfaq video's or movies?
@lazerlabmusicАй бұрын
@@Dylan-cr5ub Yes they are perfect. I haven't found noticed any delays in sound. I am Shure you will be very satisfied with them. And the sound quality is on another level than the more mainstream brands like Sony, Apple and even Sennheiser.
@Dylan-cr5ubАй бұрын
@@lazerlabmusic Oh ok thank you very much, i am really considering buying them for my next headphones or the H95 from Bang and Olufsen if they are on sale.
@bill3117 Жыл бұрын
Well after watching many reviews I'm glad to find your video. I've been torn between the Focal and the B&W. I have the B&W on the way. I do own the AirPods Max and think the ANC is great. But, sound quality does matter, so I am looking forward to the Px8 headphones. Maybe I'm going to have to travel with several brands of headphones ;) Thank you!
@JustXavier Жыл бұрын
Go for the Focal’s. I have the PX8s and the Focals and the Focals are on _a whole other level._
@allansh828 Жыл бұрын
Px8 is nowhere near as good as Bathys. It has nonexistent soundstage and image clarity compared to Bathys. It’s just mids-forward.
@duval3d Жыл бұрын
the Bathys are better sounding than the PX8....i have both of them....the reviewer is literally one of the few people who prefer the px8. It does have more low-end rumble than the Bathys.....but for true clarity, there's a clear winner.
@gwapster13 Жыл бұрын
Borrowed both for a week, now I own PX8. I do have a Focal Radiance but the Bathys is just not for me.
@falcodarkzz Жыл бұрын
Basically had the same conclusions, bought Bathys and PX8 then returned Bathys. both are great though, but those PX8 mids dayuuum
@jessel.86974 ай бұрын
How have they held up over the year?
@falcodarkzz4 ай бұрын
@@jessel.8697 great headphones still, cant see anything id rather have apart from amybe airpods max if I was deep in apple eco and didnt mind a big hit to sound
@VitiateTheImmortal9 ай бұрын
Its really strange how subjective audio is lol i tried the px8 and the focal bathys next to each other… and i felt like the px8 sounds too dark, nearly muffled compared to the focals. Their bass is a little too powerful and treble not bright enough. Also i didnt like the smaller sound stage. Preferred the bathys by far
@skenic19529 ай бұрын
I own the Bathys, PX8’s and the Mark Levinson 5909 and I disagree with your barely scraping the surface review of these high end headphones. While I concede that everyone’s personal anatomy is different I find the PX8 ear cups to be small and uncomfortable to wear for long periods of time. To me, the Bathys are superior to the PX8’s in both comfort, build quality, and sound quality. The other two headphones you reviewed I can’t comment on since I wouldn’t own either. There’s another headphone, the B&O H95’s which I found to be overpriced and inferior, I had them and returned them.
@bonanzabrandon6877 Жыл бұрын
Too bad you couldn't get the Sennheiser Momentum 4 in for comparison.
@revelationsoundstudio Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your very insightful and good review. The bathys have definitely wider soundstage, greater detail resolution and slightly leaner (but not anaemic) bass. However, I find them far less comfortable than the PX8 on my head, I prefer the build and looks of the PX8, and I also find the PX8 noise cancelling to be better. Also, the large volume steps on the bathys *really* bugs me - the PX8 had much more subtle volume control. When the bathys are in transparency mode in a quiet environment I get that really pronounced hiss that others have mentioned
@nickroseta Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to unbox my PX8’s tomorrow morning (Christmas day)! Thanks for the review.
@arthurlin50296 ай бұрын
So how did it sound to you. I just got mine yesterday. And find out that its bass sound kinda muddy, and not in a good way. Or perhaps it takes some time to burn in?
@raphaelmeillat8527 Жыл бұрын
Great review. Sounds fair and comprehensive. Nice budget mix too.
@caseysahota366011 ай бұрын
thanks for the vid!! helps alot
@angzander8536 Жыл бұрын
Why the h95 is not here?
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Because they're hard to recommend based on price to performance ratio? Especially when the PX8 has at least as superb build and materials quality, not to mention better sound, for much less.
@rolins3279 Жыл бұрын
He lost me when he said the Airpods Max sound better than the Bathys
@Daausby Жыл бұрын
Where is the Mark Levinson No. 5909?
@Patrickmathieu0482 Жыл бұрын
In their packaging in the store 😂
@Daausby Жыл бұрын
@@Patrickmathieu0482 🤡
@Patrickmathieu0482 Жыл бұрын
@@Daausby hi sir ! I have the px8, bathys and mark Levinson 5909. In a short resume, i can tell you that the px8 are my favorite by far. I listen to rock, metal, pop and rap. The problem with the bathys and the 5909 is the bass. They lack a lot in terms of kick in the bass. It’s a tight bass but so poor in rumbling. It doesn’t hit you in the chest like the px8 does. The bathys have a clearer sound with more details than the px8 and 5909. I would recommand the bathys for those who listen to classic, jazz, pop or blues or accoustics. The 5909 emphasized on the mids and highs a lot! They have the best presence for voices! Honestly it’s a huge difference between the three. But, again, they lack in terms of bass response!! They are for people who listen to accoustics, live shows or classical music. The px8 are the most fun to listen in the bunch! If you have a pair to choose, it’s easy: px8 ! They are so comfortable !! :) Hope this help! Oh by the way, i speak french here so sorry for bad english
@SammyIsWhammy9 ай бұрын
I've owned the XM5s and AirPods Max and I prefer the XM5s over them to be honest. And that's because the APMs are quite heavy and after an hour or two of use, you can feel the weight and fatigue of it and to top it off, if you're going to workout with them, the sweat and the mesh earcups don't go well with each other. The mesh ear cups feel itchy to me and I'm not a fan. But other than that, they're pretty good in sound quality. The XM5s were good in price, sound quality, and all around. One thing bad I'd say is how big the earcups actually are. It's hard to fit that and my heaad under a hood or if I'm learning on a pillow during a flight, etc. It's just massive but other than that, it's good. I'm looking to get the PX8s soon but the McLaren Edition :P. Hopefully, it's better than the both of them or at least in the aspects and factors that I want in a headphone.
@MrClassicmetal6 ай бұрын
None of those headphones are intended to be used in the gym. That's what earbuds or ear-hooks are for.
@SammyIsWhammy6 ай бұрын
@@MrClassicmetal I mean even running itd slip sooo not for me lol
@harryjohnson6255 Жыл бұрын
Love your review! I purchased the PX8s, and agree on all accounts with your review with apple and the Sonys. You nailed it and love the PX8s. I haven’t heard the Bathys, I just can’t be seen with larger the life headphones out and about. I’m sure they are crazy good, but I love the look and sound of the B&M.. I noticed the sound of the PX8s improve over time, my Sonys were the same, the older the better. Do most headphones have a break in period?
@VitiateTheImmortal9 ай бұрын
Bathys ❤ got mine last week. That is glorious audio
@TheFbiFilesRepeat7 ай бұрын
Hows the bass?
@Noksen Жыл бұрын
Where is Beoplay H95? :(
@Star_Strider11 ай бұрын
YES WHERE? I am here to say that
@mdatiqurrahman583410 ай бұрын
Shit ANC… don’t expect that here.
@Star_Strider10 ай бұрын
@@mdatiqurrahman5834 anc is a clickbait. The video is about wireless headphones and h95 are the best
@mdatiqurrahman583410 ай бұрын
@@Star_Strider it is not a click bait at all, have a look at all the titles presenting in the video! Best in class ANC… at least three of them
@Star_Strider10 ай бұрын
@@mdatiqurrahman5834 than why does this video have b&w, and focal bathys, and doesn’t have bose?))) and why does it compare sound?))
@d3f4ult_q8 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@allansh828 Жыл бұрын
11:00 wrong. The drivers are made in Focal factory but the final assembly is done in China.
@nicolaesurdu34186 ай бұрын
Great video. There are also two very good options missing: Sennheiser Momentum 4 and Bang & Olufsen H95.
@harryjohnson6255 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you
@sandwaves5642 Жыл бұрын
Pitty you didn't include the B&O H95
@TheIrishMedievalArcher2 ай бұрын
My god maaaan you got me with that explanation. New subscriber here. 🙋🏻♂️ Would you please help me? Which one is louder Bathys or PX8? Greetings!
@cesarvarela5438 Жыл бұрын
Why is no one talking about bose anymore
@TheFunkIsThis10 ай бұрын
they fell off Klipsch is much better
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Because they have nothing good to say about em?
@haboot2752 Жыл бұрын
Whats your favorite, and best headphones or earbuds. Something you use most, personal use. And why?
@BlackMilo876 ай бұрын
And if we compare vs. the mark Levinson 5909, which one do you think has better audio, I am between the px8, focal and the mark, a fact: the px8 are on promotion and I can get them almost in less than 500 dollars
@jyexe5258 ай бұрын
Hi ! And would you say the Px8 is good for movies too on my laptop too ?
@kafkaworkshere9 ай бұрын
I went with the Bathys, though I've never heard the PX8 (full disclosure). The Sonys (either XM4 or XM5) are a great portable because of their feature set, including the best ANC, but the Bathys just sound so much better. I don't consider the AirPods Max to be a great portable. The aluminum shells are heavy and easy to scratch. Recharging involves that bra.
@sultanabran113 күн бұрын
sennheiser momentum 4 better than all of them but the focal, and it's not in the test?
@kennykhoo16895 ай бұрын
px8 sound better? You sure...cause tried the px8 and it suck big time. even some of the lower end budget cans sounded better
@Markus-xm4zv2 ай бұрын
I agree. 😂😊
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Yes they do sound better. Only audiophiles who "listen" to graphs and are so stuck up on Harman curve think otherwise.
@kennykhoo168921 күн бұрын
@@robovirtuoso1354 yeah if you think it's sound good and only audiophile listen to graph and harman target.. Hahahaha.. Thanks for the joke of the day 🤪
@mlachance001 Жыл бұрын
I own the Bose 700, Sony XM5 Im Wondering if I could upgrade for Either Bathys or PX8 are these so much of a Level UP in terms of sound Quality ? Price Doesnt Matter, Just not wanna spend the Amount of the Focal Clear.
@Juumonji Жыл бұрын
Definitely, I got the Bose and Sony. ANC has no competition with the Bose and Sony, but for sound, it’s a massive jump from these to PX 8 and Bathys. I know, as I own both the PX 8 and Bathys. Both are top-of-line wireless ANC headphones, where picking either only boils down to your sound preference.
@TheFunkIsThis10 ай бұрын
if you enjoy the signature focal sound you will love the bathys
@Sh4kki9 ай бұрын
imo the PX8 have nothing to do with good audio. Just boosted ranges
@dirtbikersteve5 ай бұрын
Do not buy the B&W px8 they have a widely known issue eith the ANC causing noticably loud white noise when you tilt your head in a certain way. I had to return mine. It seems like the physical cups dont isolate very well so the mics pic up noise throwing off the ANC. There is no fix
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Don't generalize. They don't fit you well. Who knows what your head shape and size is. Doesn't mean won't fit everyone else. Fits me just fine, and so I don't have that head-tilt issue. I was able to "emulate" that issue, though, by placing the headphones in an awkward position that broke the seal, and yeah it did that. So it's all about the fit on you. Try before buying is the better advice, certainly not an irresponsible "do not buy".
@dirtbikersteve17 күн бұрын
@@robovirtuoso1354 none of my other headphones do that. It's a PX8 issue.
@spread888gospel6 ай бұрын
Px8 or Px7s2e ??
@alecbrito4397 Жыл бұрын
Can you try the earbuds from angry Miao cyberblade?
@rgar21810 ай бұрын
i dont know how XM5 will compare to Focal bathys and BW after downloading an EQ app for PC and android (sony eq sucks) . Those EQ apps totally changed XM5 to the point that turning it off makes it sound a different headphone. I would say it became so much clearer that the Sony Eq app wasnt able to do.
@charliemoorejr. Жыл бұрын
I want great ANC, and pricing!
@waiik76 Жыл бұрын
I'm not agree with you. The comfortable of the apple and b&a are at last. The sound of the Sony and apple is bad.
@shedim76616 күн бұрын
Dali… IO6?
@sunshinecycling25 күн бұрын
You've been to the France facility and you still manage to pronounce "Bathys" incorrectly???
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
And you think your favorite "audiophile" reviewers pronounce it correctly? Those so-called audiophiles are amazingly deaf when it comes to picking up the way their French friends/sponsors at Focal pronounce stuff. Even the "Focal" brand isn't pronounced by those Focal employees the same way those reviewers do. They're English-speakers that try so hard to sound French (when they don't actually need to) but fail miserably and just murders (in the negative sense) the words.
@sunshinecycling22 күн бұрын
@@robovirtuoso1354 You certainly sound French. I will listen to this robo stranger on the internet.
@robovirtuoso135421 күн бұрын
@@sunshinecycling Seriously watch any video where they interview the Focal lady, compare how she pronounces Bathys and Focal with how these English speaking "audiophile" reviewers say it "correctly". I mean, why try to sound French? It's totally unnecessary and even sounds condescending when done so terribly.
@GimbalWalkTV Жыл бұрын
I love my Sony XM4's
@janmysicka70126 ай бұрын
Airpods Maxes are the worst out of them all. 1. Terrible sound 2. Noice cancelling is mid after the update 3. And they are heavy af. If i compare the sound against airpods pro 2, airpods pro win every single time… The sound is just dull and mid. I think the XM5 are best for the price and sound actually.
@Ulka.suleymanli9 ай бұрын
Many people admit that Bathys has best sound among these
@Markus-xm4zv2 ай бұрын
I would agree. I was not overwhelmed by B&W
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Everyone will have a different preference, and also different experience based on fit on their head and their ear anatomy. So yeah I wouldn't be surprised that many will prefer Bathys. I'm not one of them.
@clever5118 Жыл бұрын
I hesitate between xm5 and px8.
@jaimewinz16 күн бұрын
I have the PX8 and can tell you it’s worth every penny. I’ve tried almost all modern ANC headphones and the sound quality is my favorite on these.
@RobberClobber Жыл бұрын
No technics eh?
@elliekim6666 Жыл бұрын
The MSRP for the Sony is $399 not $350
@user-nb8df2wj1o Жыл бұрын
actually, sony’s earcup feels so cheap on touch compared to even px7s2
@Em_Dee_Aitch9 ай бұрын
OMG at least learn the correct pronunciation….
@robovirtuoso135422 күн бұрын
Are you sure you pronounce whatever that is correctly? Or you just think the audiophile reviewers pronounce it right? Coz they don't.
@Em_Dee_Aitch22 күн бұрын
@@robovirtuoso1354 wow. And you can’t even spell correctly.
@patriciabh4188 Жыл бұрын
Thank’s!! Great video you heleped me a lot! Waiting my b&w!! 🫶🏻