I wore out my brushes and wiper on Finish line and bought new ones. Like new! Then promptly the case cracked and leaks. Oh well. Can vouch the magnet is a nice touch, but the big angle on chain makes it hard to pedal quickly. Going to try Pedros next! Thanks for the great and thorough video

@@brianwalker9793 - Oh bummer! Thanks for sharing your experience! Let us know how the Pedro's works for you. - Jay

I missed any mention of replacement parts... in addition a brush set for the Park Tools Cyclone is ~$13.

@@Arfonfree - Thanks for the tip. The replacement parts were simply noted as a "Y" or "N" on the scoring for each unit under the Brush & Wiper Quality section. 5:54 - Jay

Looks like that you did not see the Magnet on the Bottom of the Parktool! Iam using this one sometimes and the magnet has hold on to some Particles. At all i use this tool not with mounted chain because everything else is dirty and needs to be cleaned 1 by one.

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No obnoxious music or annoying intro😊

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hahah Project Farm with Major Hardware Fan Showdown feel.

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Ah yes, skipping the most important function of them all, removing the sand particles from inside the chain, the only thing in cleaning a chain that matters.

That's Extremely High Praise! Just in case you didn't know!

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I also think that cleaning should be more important. Also, the one cleaning the best is the cheapest one... you can buy almost two at about the price of the better ones, and I doubt that bristles and everything would score better in the more expensive one vs the cheapest used half as long. I have the cheapest and also one similar to the Finish line. Last time I used the latter because it has brushes cleaning the sides of the chain, while the cheapest one only the inner part. However the grease test could not (obviously, it's ok) judge how good the cleaner dislodges dirt in the rollers. The first cleaner, bending the chain, should be the best also for this reason. I think I will use the cheapest one more often in the future.

@@olafmarzocchi6194 it’s not really good for the environment to buy disposable cleaning tool. By looking at this test, I think some tools will be good for way more than twice the time.

Yes but the test is only about cleaning efficiency. I guess with more time and cleaning cycles spent on less efficient tools you can achieve equally good results. I would definitely not put too much weight on the cleaning rating.

Park tool aluminium version is the king of all cleaners!

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Just to add (an educational) comment. You could have weighted the categories, so that for example, the drop test is less "important" the the rest. This is highly subjective, but so is giving them all the same importance. I'm perfectly happy with the review the way it is! (german scientist/engineer approved) Oh, and of course the is a standard for stuff like this. "VDI 2255 Blatt 3" if anyone is interested :D

Oh yeah, well I'm a mathematician/scientist, and I say this review is thorough and absolutely brilliant, so there Also, I really am a scientist (chemistry and physics), and a mathematician (abstract variety)

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Agreed, a narrow stiff bristle brush is not only more affordable, although more thorough, and just as fast once you calculate in time saved from assembling and cleaning the tool itself.

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I use Weldtite Citrus Degreaser with my Park Tools Cyclone. Does a good job, and it's biodegradable (if that's what you mean).

That's high praise comparing to PF!

Thanks for the comment. I considered weighting, but decided to let each viewer decide what's most important to them - great suggestion :) - Jay

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Great to hear! Thank you for sharing your experience, glad to hear the Muc-Off is going strong! - Jay

Finish Line cleans better, i have both and also FL only has the ONE center clip not one on each end that doesn't lock in as easily but that weird chain angle takes a while to get used to

I second this. It's surprising how much that magnet collects too. One of the clips snapped off mine though.

I definitely like this design feature on the park tool. - Jay

I had that happen on an older park tool model. The current model I tested seemed to have a different attachment method for the magnet that I think will hold up better. - Jay

​@@SimplyMountainBikingdo you know if the new iteration cleans better too?

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree that the tail on the chain pig is a great feature! - Jay

And as a bonus, the wipers then work a bit better too 🙂 Just tilt it to adjust pressure on the ends.

Thanks for the tip! I think that my clutched derailleur likely kept too much tension on the chain to allow it to conform to the cleaner's chain path. -Jay

@@SimplyMountainBiking maybe, I'm using it on 1x12 SRAMs and working for over year now. But still sometimes I take the chain off and clean it separately with deep clean of the whole drivetrain 🙂

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I considered weighting the results, but thought I would just share them all equally so that everyone could make an informed decision based on the factors most important to them. Cheers! - Jay

These chain cleaner/scrubbers immensely reduce the time, effort, and mess. I think that they all use plastic brushes. Plastics vary in durometer (hardness), stiffness, brush bristle diameter, and modulus of action. You could modify the brush "wheels" or make a whole brush assembly. Experiment with brass, stainless steel, copper, various plastics, or some other type bristle-fiber materials(glass, boar hair, horsehair.... There's a wide spectrum of bristle types. Once you settle on a favorite (or group of favorites...you could patent the configuration. Then offer licenses to the tool manufacturers. If you install some super hard, coarse, and stiff bristles: you might end up scratching/-upbraiding the coating, plating, or special surface processes, and/or destroying the bearing o-ring seals ... Sometimes you can go TOO AGRESSIVE. Soft bristles may require additional cycles through the cleaner and/or cleaning fluid changes... But they reduce the risk of damaging/destroying yir fancy chain.

Good call. I decided to narrow down the tests to keep the video production time manageable - but maybe we'll circle back sometime and test some other methods for chain cleaning! - Jay

The bike hand one looks very similar to my generic one (from Jensen) right down to the rusted "stainless steel" pins. :)

Thanks for the video, super informative. My 1st chain cleaning unit that I bought when I arrived in the NL 🇳🇱 was a generic unit and it works like a charm - around €3.50 and it's been good to me. It's the Marvel brand (bought in South Africa before I came to the NL) - works well and is cheap as chips. Tks mate. ​@@SimplyMountainBiking

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Thank you! I just use a little dish soap and water and let completely dry. I'll pop the brushes out if it's really bad and wipe everything down. - Jay

Thank you for sharing your process :). - Jay

Some of us with eBike chains cannot use quick-links so having a chain cleaning tool like these is our only choice.

gasoline has residual oil in it and just allows the chain to attract dirt easier next time, not to mention prevents the wax from adhering fully. better to use a proper solvent for the use

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@Kevin - Great catch! Looks like you can buy spare brushes and wipers for about $8. Thanks! -Jay

@Alan - thanks for the comment. I've had that issue in the past. I guess time will tell if the Park Tool 5.3 version resolved it. We have degreaser in our backlog of videos, thanks for the idea! - Jay

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@@SimplyMountainBiking Yes! Degreasers should be on the top of you video idea list please :o

I feel like the grease was way harder to remove than any conceivable 'dirt'. In fact I think the test was a little unfair to the tools it rated 'b' for cleaning effectiveness.

I'm glad you were able to use the comparison how I intended! I was hoping everyone could draw their own conclusions based on what's important to them! - Jay

I agree...I would not buy or use a tool if it didn't remove all the grease

Agree! Even though it does not have replaceable parts you can buy 2 for the price of the ones he picked. Second it would take 2 seconds to drill a hole so you can add fluid.

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Haha ~1200 cycles into the tests I was thinking "this might have been a bad idea" :). Glad you enjoyed it. - Jay

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it takes *days* to clean a chain?

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