BEST CHEAP SAMPLER? Zoom Sampletrak ST-224 Review and Tutorial
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The Zoom Sampletrak ST-224 is a cheap alternative to classic samplers such as the AKAI MPC 2000XL, Roland SP-404, and Emu SP-1200. It has gained a lot of hype over the years with many producers adding it to their arsenal of music production equipment.
This vintage sampler gives Lo-Fi qualities, similar to production styles like Kanye West, Pete Rock, J Dilla, Madlib etc. In terms of cheap samplers, the modern standard is pocket operators such as the PO-33 K.O! by Teenage Engineering, but the Sampletrak is a strong option that costs slightly more, if you can find one.
These samplers are fairly rare to find for sale on websites such as eBay and Facebook Marketplace, compared to counterparts such as the Korg Electribe ES1 and BOSS SP-202 Dr. Sample. They also use a SD card predecessor called the Smart Media Card which is also rare and expensive.
In this review and tutorial I highlight the pros and cons as well as show five techniques of using the device. These include stereo imager, Lo-Fi effect + compressor (replicating BOSS SP-303 Dr. Sample vinyl sim compressor), pitch shifting, sampling and reducing sample rate The samples used in this demonstration are available royalty free on my Looperman page.
This sampler, although limited, is perfect for creating everything from 90s Hip Hop beats to the modern Lo-Fi beats you would hear on any Lo-Fi Girl stream.
Commonly referred to as the Poor Man’s SP-1200, I prefer to call it the Broke Producers SP-1200. I hope you enjoyed this my thoughts about it.
Let me know what you think of it?
VIDEOS MENTIONED
MG The Future
First Impression | Zoom Sampletrak ST-224 | Better Than Sp404? | Ableton Integration
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Kevin Flowers
Zoom Sampletrak 224 - How to import samples using a smart media card
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Spvidz
Boss SP303 Vinyl Sim Compressor demo & tips!
• Boss SP303 Vinyl Sim C...
LOOPERMAN PAGE
Lo-Fi Drake Chords 90 Fmin DREW GRIT
Lo-Fi Chopped Chords 97 F DREW GRIT
Lo-Fi Ambient 104 Bbmin DREW GRIT
Lo-Fi Uzi Synth 120 G DREW GRIT
Lo-Fi Space Piano 120 Gmin DREW GRIT
The samples from this video are posted Feb 1st 2022
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:22 Why is it hyped?
2:04 Weird Samples
2:23 Smart media card
2:56 One effect
4:20 Resample FX
6:36 Tuning wheel
8:02 Chord Scale
9:42 Sample Rate
11:07 Final Thoughts
@prufrockrenegade 2 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to get grit out of it is to set the sample rate to "standard" and then just use the classic method of speeding the sample up to 45 rpm (or +5 semitones you're sampling off something digital) and then pitching it back down once it's in the machine. Overdriving the inputs also fattens drum samples up pretty well. As for it's shortcomings, they don't really impact my workflow since I just record the sounds out of it into a "better" sampler once I get the vibe I'm looking for
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment my friend, great tip and I like the workflow idea of using another sampler with the sampletrak to help move past its shortcomings, definitely a good shout!
@zachbuckley6111 2 жыл бұрын
Love that south London sample “knife”
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ffs😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ReyHugoTelevision614 11 ай бұрын
This thing has so many features packed into it. Amazing Sampler
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
Agreed dude, I personally love the range of effects, you can really achieve a lot with them. Thanks for the comments my friend✌️
@soundlabsounddesign9392 2 жыл бұрын
I started being interested in making electronic music at around 2002. My first drum machine was a Zoom RT-234, I loved that thing. Some time later, I spotted a Sampletrak at a local second hand shop for about 50 dlls, I didn't pick it up and they had it on a shelve for about two months, the day I decided to pick it up, the guy told me he sold it the day before. Weeks later, someone saw me going on this drum machine and offered me an Electribe EA-1 ($80), weeks later I picked up a Yamaha AN200 ($150), then a Roland SH-32 ($125)... What I'm getting to is, that during that period and because of the popularization of electronic music made with old Roland gear (808, 909, 303), companies were producing the groovebox format everywhere, starting with the horrible MC-303 Groovebox, as DSP chips could do the work that previously required larger components and boards. So yes, there's a lot of samplers (and synths) produced during that period that are DSP based: Korg Electribes, Yamaha Loopfactory series, Zoom RTs and ST, Boss/Roland SPs. A lot of gear from this period has a particular 'sound' (as in lower quality turn-of-the-century-cheaper components-digital sound) but it was intended as entry level gear (kind of like the Volcas today). As you said, the quality of this gear is an equivalent of around $200, there's some of the boxes that I mentioned that go up to $700!! Imagine paying $500 dlls for a Volca Bass some years from now, or $400 for a Volca FM, it is just not worth it. I finally got my Sampletrak in 2020 for $100 and I love it, more so, because of almost 20 years of wanting it (same thing with the Yamaha DX200). (Look for this youtube video -Electronic Jam / Juno-60 / SH-32 / AN200 / Lexicon Alex-). That's me in 2010 with some of this gear... Cheers m8!
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Haha you make an amazing point my friend, the idea of a Volca selling for 400/500 is hilarious😂 Thats awesome you got your hands on a sampletrak eventually, and before the prices went past the 200 threshold. Glad you agree that 200 is the max its worth. I also checked out the video, thats a sick set up! Thanks the comment man, doing plenty more gear related stuff coming soon💪
@trevorbrown716 2 жыл бұрын
Bruhh I’ve been thinking about getting this too just because of the gritty sound. Love this review and bruh MG is the goat, I love his channel haha
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thank you bro, I guess we have crossed paths at the exact right time then, it’s definitely a cool sampler but has its downsides too. I appreciate you coming across man, stay in touch✌️
@aq6304 2 жыл бұрын
I've owned mine over 22 years. I mean, it's pretty old, so of course no SD slot. I do agree is getting more hype than it deserves these days, but I see most new reviewers still haven't discovered or pointed out some of the cool secrete tricks this thing can actually do. It can definitely hold it's own in the hands of the right person.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
That is an amazing point, wish I had said that myself haha it definitely can hold its own in the hands of the right person, that’s the bottom line overall! Thanks for the comment AQ, I appreciate you taking the time to comment and drop that gem on us💪
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@aq6304 This model does have a SmartMedia card slot though. As did the Boss SP-202 a year prior. And the Korg Electribes from the first half of the '00s. 1999 was when SD was actually introduced so "old" isn't really relevant, but it then took 5+ years to be adopted.
@afk_hesh 7 ай бұрын
What tricks? I found one at a pawn shop near me and I'm considering picking it up
@FairchlldMusic1 2 жыл бұрын
No velocity, no wawries. Copy pads and adjust the level of the copy to get variations of volume.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a good work around man, thanks for sharing that with us!
@FairchlldMusic1 2 жыл бұрын
To mark start and end points, hit the loop button when in sample start or end mode to quickly trim by ear.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good method because editing samples can be quite an annyoing task on the sampletrak, thanks my friend!
@bobbymobetta 2 жыл бұрын
After marking the loop points, you can also get sample time back by using "optimize" feature. Loop the sample exactly how you want it, then hit "optimize" it will say "optimize sample xx?" Hit it again and now the sample is cut down and you'll notice you gain that time back if you press "capacity"
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbymobetta Omg you’ve just made me realise I never mentioned this in the video haha I have been using Optimize button since I read the manual when I first got it. I just totally forgot about saying it! I have noted this down to remind myself to bring it up in my next sampletrak vid, I owe you one bob haha✌
@alchemistrpm82 11 сағат бұрын
Brilliant content g. Glad I found your channel by searching for this obscure piece of kit. (subbed)
@drewgrit_ 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much bro, glad you enjoyed it! I really need to get the sampletrak out again for another video, it’s good fun to play with💪
@user-mc1nj7nk8g 9 ай бұрын
Greetings from chile, i bought my ST 224 on 2003, gladdly i Can say that even if is not a must have, is a jewel and Can be used in many ways, as long as you have creativity
@drewgrit_ 9 ай бұрын
Big shoutout to Chile! And you’re 100% right my friend, the way you’ve just described it is perfect. The more time I spend with it the more I have grown to agree with exactly what you said! Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@Samplers Жыл бұрын
Great review and great work on the video production. Subscribed.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much my friend, im still new to all this youtube stuff so a comment like this is incredibly motivating! Currently cleaning up a 2000xl so ill be putting out a video about that soon💪
@Samplers Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ Miss my 2000xl - will have to get another some day. Have older classic MPCs but miss pad mutes and being able to preview a sample before committing to loading into memory.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
@@Samplers I feel you my friend, it is a great sampler. If I was you I’d try get another one sooner rather than later, the prices are just silly these days and don’t see that changing anytime soon sadly. But actually I was lucky and got a good deal so maybe you will be lucky too!
@baltimega 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put together video. I've been eyeing one of these for a few years now. I have their drum machine in the same form factor. Don't think I need it now though now that I have the sp 404mkii and the circuit rhythm.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much BALTIMEGA, trying my best to come out the gates on my channel with the highest standard I can, so that means a lot. And do you mean one of the Zoom Rhythmtrak’s? I have seen them for sale a few times but don’t know anything about them, would be interested to find out more. And yea you are definitely winning with the MKii and circuit rhythm, im sure you can can get a lot out of that good stuff out of that combo, very sick💪
@notv3rysopas38 2 жыл бұрын
Sick work, dude. Keep on going 🔥
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out dude, going to be putting out some proper packs very soon. Also love the picture on your profile hahahahah
@notv3rysopas38 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ Sweet! Definitely checking them later. (About the PFP, ye pure art HAAHA)
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@notv3rysopas38 agreed, fine art😂😂😂😂😂😂
@808_rafa 2 жыл бұрын
Shheeeesh. must be nice... keep up the good content playa 🙏
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for for checking out the vid Rafael, I really appreciate it. Stay in touch my friend! Hopefully we can bring a network of emerging producers together, it would be so sick💪
@fallprecauxionsmusic Жыл бұрын
really great demo. thanks much for this. considering & also reconsidering getting one. that quick eBay bit, at the very end... along with your overall summary... it's pure gold, man. you just got yet another subscriber.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much dude, this is a super kind and encouraging comment! I really tried my best with this video so it’s amazing to get positive feedback on the main points. I appreciate it my friend💪
@fallprecauxionsmusic Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ my pleasure, good sir!! & thank you for your kind & thoughtful reply here.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
You have to show love back to those who give it to you bro💪 sorry I didn’t reply to it sooner, I’m just back from a family holiday but I’m so glad I got round to it!
@fallprecauxionsmusic Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ all good on the timing & such. no sweat whatsoever. thanks much for the exchange. & looking forward to more of your vids & shizz....
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
‘Twas a fun exchange, hopefully man more to come haha cheers dude✌️
@mgwiya1 2 жыл бұрын
Today, I got st224 with around 30USD from my local store which resell used musical instruments imported from Japan. That is a steal price tag right? But my unit doesn't come with adapter and smartmedia card. Whatever i'm so happy with that price because this is my first standalone sampler, I'm normally use maschine for clients project and beat making for my self because i think ,hybrid system is more flexible for nowadays. I'm also used korg volca sample for jamming and finger drumming practice because volca sample and maudio trigger finger pad controller is perfect for outdoor . ST224 will be my next favourite instruments because of it's capabilities and flexibilities. I'd been only try a few hours with st224 but i already love with it. Believe it or not , this machine is so dope , if you use with external power supply and external audio source like the fm radio or smartphone whatever, this ST224 will be perform just like the perfect standalone lofi sampler for on the go.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Bro 30USD is more than a steal, thats an incredible price! I am extremely jealous haha You will probably pay around 25 USD for a smart media card and adapter combined, meaning it will still be cheap. My one didnt come with them either and that is roughly how much I paid. It sounds like you are very experienced with the Maschine and Korg Volca so the Sampletrak will probably be a great hardware sampler for you to start with. Also I have tried sampling using my smartphone but using the radio is a genius idea. I will definitely try that at some point! Thanks for the comment my friend, best of luck with your ST-224 adventures💪
@mgwiya1 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ i think, I'm lucky today. I've seen another unit with 200usd price before, it's come with adapter and smartmedia card. But today morning about 6am, i saw it's selling post in Facebook and then i feel like i have to get it and in around 9am ,i got it on my hand. 😁 Sampling from Radio is best for me when I'm get bored at making music. Source button from st224 is amazing features, not only to monitoring external audio source but also you can use it as guitar effect or other instruments effects. Cheers and let's enjoy st224 .🙌
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@mgwiya1 definitely lucky today bro congrats haha also I was thinking exactly that about the source button, I’m planning on trying to run vocals for a whole track through it. It might suck but I’m excited to find out💪
@bobbymobetta 2 жыл бұрын
It's true the source pad will let you run an outside signal in which you can then use the effects... and not unlike how a big draw to the sp404 is the vinyl Sim, some of the effects on here are actually pretty sick, the time stretch, pitch shift, lo-pass among others are kinda sick. Like every instrument, it's got its sweet spots. @drew I wonder how you will feel about this box in 6 months. It took me a few months but right now it's my go-to to get started...the sequencer is...well, to be honest it's fucking useless, but I just love how it sounds at 12 bit /lofi 1
@bobbymobetta 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, $30? You win... even without any add-ons, like duce said, mine didn't come with power or card... and I paid $250...one of the effects knobs cracked in shipping too!
@billspectre9502 2 жыл бұрын
Cool review! You’re fun! Subscribed! 💣💣🧨
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the kind words bill! I am in the middle of making the next video with varying motivation from day to day so comments like this work wonders in getting me to pick my head up and power through! Thanks my friend, I owe you one💪
@Crabby303 Жыл бұрын
I bought one off of the SoundOnSound classified ads when I was living in Manchester way back in 2011-ish for ~£70 and still have and use it almost daily. Great little unit, I gigged it loads and despite the all-plastic construction (bar the underside) it's still in great nick and working perfectly. My only big con with it is the lack of velocity.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome man, sick to hear someone’s long term and regular use of it, haven’t heard that many point of views with that level of experience so thanks for sharing that. By any chance have you noticed the buttons be less responsive over time? Some people have mentioned that to me as a real issue with theirs, and mine isn’t incredible either but I think it’s just low quality parts, not wear and tear. But I could be wrong!
@Crabby303 Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ The pads on mine are all good so far - in fairness I mostly just muck about working out stuff on the pads and then trigger the unit via a sequencer. Wrote a few very basic tunes on the unit just using the onboard sequencer etc ages ago, loads of fun working within the 4-note polyphony etc :) If your pads are getting worn out it might be that the contacts need cleaning, or more likely need topping up with conductive coating. Did this a few years ago with 2 old MMT-8 sequencers and the pads are great again - Chemtronics was the stuff I used and it did the biz, but there's others on the market :)
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
@@Crabby303 Ahhh interesting, thanks for the info man, I might try cleaning the contacts at some point soon. If it works I owe you one big time haha cheers✌
@murmur8360 2 жыл бұрын
Yessss!! Was impressed with the pitch and scale! Nice load of effects. Be fun to route abelton through it if you have 4 outs! How is the sequencer? High quality video! 👊👊
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
In the vid I mentioned by MG the future, he linked it to ableton if your interested in seeing that. I’m sort of trying to get in the no DAW mindset just to see how I get on with that but I’m sure I’ll try it eventually. And spent more time learning the effects than trying to sequence but so far it was ok. Going to jump into that next vid in depth. I don’t have high expectations tho lol Cheers for the comment broski, glad you enjoyed it ✌️
@murmur8360 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ oh yeah cool i will check that out! But yeah man i get you! I've been dawless for the last year or so and it was hard going backwards but in the end so much more rewarding for me! I look forward to seeing more vids on what you come up with! Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@murmur8360 uppa dawless, uppa yeeeeeet hahaha
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@murmur8360"How is the sequencer?" Good question! I think the reason these were unpopular is because we for one didn't stock them at the time in our stores I was demoing gear for because we knew the sequencer wasn't brilliant. It's only 24ppqn resolution, which is a quarter of the MPC-60's resolution from 11 years earlier in 1988! 😂 And whilst low res is the Hip Hop sound on an MPC with its groove options (& thus why the default ppqn setting of 48 or whatever in FLStudio is liked by millenial 'boombap' heads, but is actually to save cpu! 🤦♂️😂), at 24 pulses per quarter note it's a bit low! We knew the fx might be alright because Zoom were doing guitar fx units prior. Boss & Roland had their line already & the SP-202 that came out the year before the Zoom SampleTrak was better. Roland were makers of early standalone sequencers & later sampler sequencer workstations too, so their sequencers were good. And Boss is a division of Roland.
@Noise-Conductor 2 жыл бұрын
Back in 2003 I had the choice to buy this or an SP-505 & ended up with the 505 but i was still curious about the ST-224 but back then there was no KZfaq just forum reviews & based on that the 505 seemed like the better deal which i don't regret. BTW you can get a Smartmedia to XD/SD card converter which makes it easy to move data around. Peace & thanks for the honesty.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good point, it’s crazy to think how much info we can access before purchasing a product today compared to back then. And that’s smart about the card converter, I hadn’t even considered there would be options for that so I appreciate that info greatly. And thanks for the comment to my friend, love talking about this stuff with people, shoutout the 505 too, definitely want to try one💪
@shannonwalker1370 Жыл бұрын
I payed about $950 for a zoom when it first came out in Australia.It was good for someone starting out like me and had some cool efx features. But shocking build and memory made it get old quick.Later got an SP 555 which flogged the zoom. The zoom drum machines where mega fun
@flyingscarf5863 2 жыл бұрын
great video mate, thanks!
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you man! Comments like this keep me pushing on haha also currently editing a beat video using the sampletrak, look out for that this week💪
@flyingscarf5863 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ sure! I was wondering, Im really digging this hardware and Im currently looking to dive into the world of sampling (from original compositions that is), doing live as a possible goal. My question is: sp404 or zoom st224 or something else?
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@flyingscarf5863 This is actually really interesting that you’ve asked this because during the process of making the beat video that I’m working on I have been thinking about these things. I’d say yes it’s good for getting into the world of sampling, in terms of vintage samplers for sure. It’s very straightforward and has plenty of memory space. However, if performing is a goal that could be an issue, the pads are very unreliable. You could argue that it’s maybe just my unit, but I’m pretty confident in saying this will be an issue across any ST-224 you find. I don’t think it’s wear and tear, I think it’s low quality build. Therefore, if you got one it would probably be great up until you need to perform and then you might need to incorporate a second sampler like an SP404 or MPC into the workflow. Then you’d be be good. Essentially it’s up to you whether or not you want to try a Sampletrak and then add something or just go straight to an SP which should do it all with no problems. Anymore questions definitely let me know! Happy to answer anything my friend💪
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
2:22 No, that's what was saved in when you got it! 😉 Originally the demo was called Jungle Man & you got a CD of samples with it. Yours sounded like a familiar voice actor was one of them.
@drewgrit_ 8 ай бұрын
I literally said “thanks to the totally bizarre samples saved on mine” 😂 mine being the key word, I thought that was well conveyed. But yea you’re right the default stuff is really cool, I’ve had a play with that too. Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@braien25980 2 жыл бұрын
Akai S01, nice sound too🍻
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Would love an S01, maybe that will be my next purchase😤
@Illmulla 2 жыл бұрын
I love this kids energy!! 🤣
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend, trying my best to use that energy to entertain the people haha my whole aim with this channel is like 50% funny entertainment, 50% good music production info. So many channels out there are way too serious!😂
@ReyHugoTelevision614 11 ай бұрын
Love this thing
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
Since this video it has grown on me a lot, it has a real vibe!
@pedrojosee6898 Жыл бұрын
i got one for 40 bucks in Tijuana (where i from) like 6 years a go, the guy who sold it to me didnt know what it was. Then I got a job out of Mexico and spent 4 years out of the homeland and I left my gear at my parents house, recently came back to Tijuana and there is no sign of the ssp 224, nobody seems to know what happen to it. I was really excited about sync all the machines i left in Tj plus the ones i get while i was out and i didnt get a sampler because im not a big sampler person and i supposedly had the ssp 224 and was gonna be ablle to use it once came back to Mexico, so no sampler machine for me at the moment. I didnt used it that much but for the price I like it, akakkakakaka. Like your video.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
no way bro thats heartbreaking! Genuinely made me sad reading that haha especially since you got it for such a good price. But you make a good point, you never got to even get used to it so could have been a bigger loss😂 hopefully you come across another cheap one sometime, praying for you bro haha Also glad you enjoyed the video, I really appreciate it, more sampler vids coming soon, got a 2000xl recently✌
@deanivan3951 2 жыл бұрын
Like any other sampler, it's who is using it. If you're wack you make wack Tracks period.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, that plays a major part. There are a few sick channels that are making the most out of the Sampletrak and make it look easy haha check out “Expansion Club” if you haven’t seen there vids But yea I am currently working on a beat video using the st-224 and have been watching the best examples as a benchmark. The thing that sticks out to me so far is - talented people make good stuff regardless (like you said) - I think you need to invest some time into the sampletrak to get good at it and find the work arounds you need to make beat your way That’s my theory so far anyway haha cheers for the comment Dean✌️
@michaelheath1194 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice review! I learned some things I didn't know 😊 I'm not quite sure why your SampleTrak defaults to 0.55 for the tuning because mine always starts from 0. Perhaps you could resolve the issue by messing with the plus and minus buttons 🤔
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much michael, I really appreciate it! Thats so interesting that yours starts at 0, I thought they all would have been the same. This has made me super eager to find out haha I will definitely try the plus and minus buttons, you could be right, cheers💪
@bobbymobetta 2 жыл бұрын
Michael is right, you use the +/- buttons, the particular sample is showing up as starting at .55 because the last owner manipulated the sample to that end and it saved that way. If you change the tuning across any of the cents using the wheel, when you turn it on and off it will still be saved that way as far as where sample has been placed on the pad banks.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobbymobetta Thanks for confirming this info Bob, I havent actually had the chance to see if it works yet so It is good to know that it will and for anyone who comes across this comment and is experiencing the same issue can be confident it will work too. Much appreciated my friend!
@rorz999 Жыл бұрын
I got one years ago for around £100. I liked the FX but I wasn't keen on the workflow overall. I think several years ago it was worth picking one up because they were under the radar and you get them cheaply, but they aren't worth the second-hand prices that most people charge for them these days
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
You’ve absolutely nailed it there my friend, couldn’t agree more. That’s my exact feelings towards it haha Hopefully prices will become more reasonable, I’ve had a some people tell me they have got one for around £100 since this video but that’s still only a couple examples and in varying condition. But yea I guess we will have to wait and see how the market changes. Thanks for the comment dude✌️
@marcotixxx 2 жыл бұрын
dude i just found one for really cheap! (less than $20, believe it or not 🤣) fully functional, the seller doesn’t know how to use it. i’m gonna get it within the next 24 hours and there’s no way someone is gonna talk me out of getting it lol
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
wow man thats an incredible price, especially with the currently inflated prices of sampletraks across the internet, definitely pick that up if you can and report back to me about how you get on with it💪
@jonathanabbott3097 Жыл бұрын
I have just got one of these. And I am about to make a power supply for it, as I didn't get one with it. Luck for me it has the voltage and current requirement on the socket. Can't wait to fire it up and see if it works. It even has the plastic cover still on the display 😁🤞
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Sick dude welcome to the club, it might not be the best sampler ever but it is definitely fun and easy to play with! Definitely hit me up if you’ve got any questions, easiest place to message is instagram drewgrit_ Enjoy my friend✌️
@jonathanabbott3097 Жыл бұрын
I might dig out my Roland MC-505, and see what I can do with them both 😁👍
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanabbott3097you definitely should man that’d be awesome, would love to see what the combo does!
@PaulaEra 2 жыл бұрын
use a midi cable you can control the st224 with your daw there is also velocity
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a good point, I believe MG the Future does this in the video I linked. That definitely opens up the Sampletrak possibilities, its just a shame it can’t be dawless to do so. Really appreciate the comment paula, thank you!
@Crabby303 Жыл бұрын
Oh also there's a software editor called ZMFPro which makes creating kits a cinch on your pc or whatever, alls you need to do then is save them onto the card & load em up into the unit. Granted, the software is old and a bit unstable on 64bit now but still works ok, just be sure to keep saving as you go. Jeez I should probably just make my own vid about this.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Didn’t see this comment too, that’s actually crazy. Definitely do make a video on that man, I’d be super interested haha it’s the first time I’m hearing about this software but sounds ideal
@xisotopex Жыл бұрын
how bad is the midi bug? is it easy to trigger longer pad sounds from it with an external sequencer, or only sequence it as a drum machine?
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Midi bug as in the pads not triggering properly? Its not been great yea, im havent tried triggering it with an external device tbh, I feel like that defeats the purpose. Ive just used it how it is and accepted the flaws. Sorry I cant answer your question any better than that my friend!
@sethveltromp6001 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I was wondering how you recorded sound directly to and from the sampler. What cables would you need to do that with and what would I need to plug into what for it to work? My bad if it's a dumb question, I'm not fimiliar with audio gear at all. Enjoyed the video, was informative on the functionality of the Zoom, thanks for making it.
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
No problem my friend, not a dumb question at all. So I use Jack cables out into a Tascam audio recorder, could also use an audio interface connected to a computer. And to get sounds in the machine I use the smart media card and reader which can be a sort of long process but you can also record right in with a jack cable. I use a jack to mini jack cable meaning that I can record using my phone or laptop headphone port. Glad you enjoyed the video dude, if you have any more questions then let me know any time💪
@sethveltromp6001 Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ Thanks alot man, that make sence. Helped me greatly. +1 Sub
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
@@sethveltromp6001 awesome dude, really appreciate it! Here any time you need, it’s drewgrit_ on instagram, I’m usually easier to message there if anything does come up✌️
@richardcrainium9343 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these in my closet collecting dust since 2000
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s crazy, ever think about getting it out again?
@bobbymobetta 2 жыл бұрын
I got one of these (after similarly searching for several months) for $250 USD ...which I think is like 165 quid as y'all say 🤣... the crazy thing is that was less than 6 months ago and now I doubt you can find one listed less than $300, and I see them more like $400. The smartmedia cards are a pain BUT they are used in electribe ES-1 and the SP-202 . I really like mine and feel pretty blessed to be using it and learning the workflow rather than just being another sp-x0x zombie pumping out vinyl Sim after vinyl Sim lofi-youtube channel fodder!! (No disrespect, just making a point)
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Ah nice one dude, 165 QUID is a good price and you’re so right about prices going up. I just hope that this video informs consumers enough that they don’t pay too much and that stabilises the prices in general but that could be wishful thinking haha I actually knew the es-1, sp202 and sp303 use smart media cards but felt like the better comparison was between 404 and sampletrak in terms of options with a bit more capability. And I totally know what you mean with the zombie thing haha with so much exposure to Sp vinyl sim type production it can sometimes feel a bit tainted or something, not quite sure how to describe it but I know what you mean! And I dont feel like its disrepectful either, some people are way to dependent on that one effect so its a fair statement if you ask me, there is clearly no malice in it either, its just your opinion at the end of the day. Still got love for all the sp users out there though haha💪
@gameon2000 2 жыл бұрын
that's the beginning of yet another conspiracy 🤣
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@gameon2000 do you mean the price fluctuating? Haha who knew so much conspiracy could come from samplers😂
@breiskapenthouston9674 2 жыл бұрын
This is so powerfull machine. Only Two problems imo. Sequencer sucks, you cant take quantize fully off and theres not alot memory to resample. Didint know about that scale trick!!! Thanks alot mate!!!!!
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I didnt know that about quantise, thats so bizarre. Thanks for the information my friend! Also I owe you one because I had not even thought of using the sampletrak pads at different volumes to create the delay effect commonly used on the sp1200 until I seen one of your videos. Glad we can both be exchanging techniques, cheers man💪
@boogiebong 2 жыл бұрын
If you sample at 45/78 rpm and then pitch the sample down, it should get the same(-ish) ring like the sp1200. I believe that's where the comparison comes originally, tho not 100% on that. I like mine even though I mostly use the 404sx&505.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
I think you are definitely right my friend. It hit me after I already made the video that it should have been one of my main examples. It slipped my mind and I’ve no idea how haha I’ll mention it next time for sure. Thanks for the much Boog Beats, much appreciated💪
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@Miles Prower sick thank you my friend, that’s great info about the standard setting. That will save me a lot of time, I owe you one miles!
@jamesjr2550 2 жыл бұрын
I use the 505 with the sampletrak
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesjr2550 505 gang, hoping to join you guys sooner or later!
@jamesjr2550 2 жыл бұрын
@Miles Prower yeah im still waiting on the 404 mk2 I should get it soon yeah many people said they sold their old machines and now the old machines selling like crazy
@madzpanda 2 жыл бұрын
This machine is super dope. Wish I jumped on one when they came out.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight hurts sometimes my friend haha but hopefully you come across one for a good price at some point and get to give it a go✌
@ushnicyuvnikof2748 2 жыл бұрын
I got factory sealed one from a store in 2018 told was lucky because it was discontinued for years it I open it and it have samples from 2018 movie incredibles 2 on sampler I am so confused 🤯
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
You are joking??? This sampler conspiracy is getting more and more interesting haha now we are encompassing Disney! Actually incredible haha do you still have the samples my friend?
@mpmi7588 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@mpmi7588 im going to be thinking about it for months haha
@Unfunny_Username_389 6 ай бұрын
Smoking Gorilla Glue - whoah, kind of wanna try that
@drewgrit_ 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha would highly NOT recommend my friend😂
@leewightman8619 Жыл бұрын
Im actually wanting either a zoom sampler or a korg micro sampler i dont wanna fuck with mpcs as the work flow is a nightmare...a lofi12 could even be a contender iv only got a p.o ko33 and a Yamaha djx but it only has a prhase sampler i use bandlab on my phone too as it has a handy wee sampler and mtv music generator 3 for the sampler ...and got that cakewalk on my laptop but dont bother with it i run all my tracks into a Tuscam dp008 ex to save them and mix and master them eq compression and add shit through the multi track..but a real proper sample will be nice
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Thats quite a range of options dude, nice one! I have a po ko33 myself that I havent spent enough time with, thanks for reminding me im neglecting it. Ill try fix that soon haha also love you have mtv music generator 3, im super curious to hear a review on that, is it any good?
@TheCultofshiva 8 күн бұрын
I had this sampler but I didn't enjoy it much. I basically used it as a guitar looper or as a easy way to trigger some vocal samples or some extra drums or guitar samples. I can't remember what I did with it, mostly I sold instruments and put the money towards getting a new instrument. I at some point got a wildly expensive EMU e5000 wich you can pick up today for around $200. You'll need a lot of 1.44 MB floppies though 😂 !!! For $50 the ZOOM is a fun toy but if you have to spend over $100. Get yourself a EMU s5000 instead... It has some of the most amazing reverb and echo/delay effects and other features to shape your sounds. I sold my hardware and switched to VST and DAW instead and selling the EMU I regret, it had a lot of character to it. The ZOOM you can emulate with the standard sampler instruments found in any modern DAW. Other hardware samplers of the 90's had some unique features and picking one up to use in your studio could be worth it. But most of these 90's low budget gimmicks will be as disappointing today as they were back then.
@drewgrit_ 7 күн бұрын
Totally hear what you’re saying about the zoom! And not really familiar with the emu e5000 tbh, never used one. Since you regret selling it and moving to vsts, why don’t you buy it again?
@TheCultofshiva 7 күн бұрын
@@drewgrit_ I am not going there anymore. All these cables and dustbunnies. I'm trying to build my own synthesizer and guitar FX. Parts are cheap but the learning curve is pretty steep though. I enjoy audio synthesis a lot more than sampling. Analog synthesizers are awesome 👌
@drewgrit_ 2 күн бұрын
That makes sense my friend, thanks for explaining and good luck with that💪
@leewightman8619 5 ай бұрын
Iv always wanted one but I'm not trusting buying one from eBay ...iv heard they are baby sp1200s
@drewgrit_ 5 ай бұрын
They are similarish to sp1200s yea, the sound of an SP1200 is definitely better but they are still cool. I bought mine from Facebook marketplace, there no way to get your hands on one without just trusting some random seller tbh! Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@colonelbarker 11 ай бұрын
I was recently given one with a box of electronics and have been trying to work out how to do anything with it - it's not exactly intuitive.
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
I agree with you especially with trying to arrange, however I’m not sure if you have the manual but honestly it changes the device completely. Turns it from difficult to very straightforward. At this point I see both sides of the argument haha thanks for the comment my friend💪
@colonelbarker 11 ай бұрын
@@drewgrit_ thanks for making the video! I think most of these kinds of devices tend to be made with musicians in mind so tend to be fairly intuitive. I almost got caught with the power supply polarity being non standard!
@drewgrit_ 10 ай бұрын
Ooooh very lucky man, hopefully no more problems and you start to really enjoy the unit! It’s definitely really fun when you get your head around it✌️
@dodgingrain3695 10 ай бұрын
lol, how is this difficult to find? There are multiple on both ebay and reverb and the prices are under $300. Maybe its only hard to find outside the US?
@drewgrit_ 10 ай бұрын
This video came out 18 months ago so things change obviously, more get put up for sale, price changes etc. But yea you’re right less are available outside of the US and Japan. But also price is still too high. I think anything past £200 ($250 currently) is pushing too much. It’s good to hear more are popping up but still some work to do on making them all reasonable prices. Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@rnmultimedia7162 6 ай бұрын
The first Sampler i used and still have - i had to take it apart to clean the insides and pads- probably would get it again - the sequencer was wonky and i just used copy/ paste to copy to the track banks as variations - track 1 was the chorus track 2 was for a verse 3 was without bass and 4 was a different variation, etc. recording for me was always on the fly - and sometimes i had to go in and micro splice and trim the waveform lol. Fun times… got me through alot of drama. I still use it with the MPC 2000XL and USED TO BE PISSED How i could make a beat Faster in the ZOOM than the MPC 😂 but now i sample at high speed in the ZOOM On STD and then pitch up or down for that SP1200 Bit Crunch and then sample the Zoom Sample into the 2000XL and it works out great…. Has anyone tried to use it for MIDI?
@drewgrit_ 6 ай бұрын
Hell yea man I love hearing people stories of how they have used these samplers and their workflow. It always inspires me to try different methods. My current set up is sampletrak and a 2000xl so I can really relate too haha I haven’t actually used it for midi yet either but I’m sure a lot of people do. Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@EarlyMist 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these in 1999 when I was about 20. First sampler and first track I made...was purely out of sampled farts and burps.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha that is amazing, truly inspiring. Might even do something like that for a future video and if so I will give you a shoutout😂😂
@OSTeez 2 жыл бұрын
I bought one for 70 euros which is ridiculous but I tried to work with it and I get frustrated everytime and go back to my XL which is not faster but more intuitive and simple...
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that is a great price, and I feel you man. Marlow digs did a video a few months back saying about how much he likes the Sampletrak and if he could go back to 1999 he would probably pick it instead of the XL which I HIGHLY doubt😂😂😂 not sure if he has thought that one through as much as he should have considering his whole identity is MPC's haha but yea they are both cool, I definitely want an XL eventually!
@jayephbee 2 жыл бұрын
$350 to 450 US May 2022
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Damn man, 450 is mad. In the UK in the past couple weeks I have actually seen a couple go for a reasonable price. £100 and £175 which gave me a bit of confidence that things were stabilising but maybe not after hearing this haha Thanks for the info my friend✌️
@Quinnybwoii3 2 жыл бұрын
Daddy gone??? Wtf is this my 7th birthday?
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Usually I have a good joke in moments like this, but you have stumped me. Congrats bruh hahaha
@MurderToCassette Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you covering this sampler. There is still not a lot of hands on reviews of it all these years later. I understand your gripes, but to be fair its a budget sampler from 1999. I wouldn't expect it to have velocity sensitive pads or anything higher than smartmedia (which besides floppy and zip disk was standard for the time). KiofNC here on YT is a master with the machine. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ed95n8Wpldq9iIE.html, this is what ultimately got me to buy one back in 2012. Also, compared to a real SP, this unit is the closest I've heard to the real thing (I've tried a lot including Maschine, MPC X, Low Hiss Software and many others).
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
I totally feel you dude. Its a difficult thing to judge something old in a completely fair way because you have to consider the context in which it was released but also its no longer that time anymore so the modern day judgement has to come in as well. Like I fully agree you cant expect velocity sensitive pads but it has to be spoken about. All that being said I do like the sound of the unit and agree it is close to real SP. It deserves credit for that for sure! Also sick link, ive definitely came across this guy before but I havent dived into his stuff but I will now. Thanks for the recommendation and the comment my friend💪
@decaystar Жыл бұрын
1. The Chord Scale can also be done manually by assigning the sample to more pads and then use tuning on each assigned pad to adjust desired “tune”. [Kinda similar method people did with SP404 before the MK2] 2. I saw your “First beat” video and it looks like you are using it like it was an Akai MPC, where you treat a “song” like a pattern/sequence part. Have you tried composing a full-length song of example 3 minutes and 30 seconds on one pad/song? [Which would be example around 75 bars of 90 BPM] [I guess this was how it was meant to be used from the designers/developer’s point of view] I´m wondering how the artist would arrange or incorporate a proper composing “work-flow” as I guess you cannot jump between the bars if I’m correct? 3. Concerning the velocity issue, did you try from an external controller?
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Hey D R, thanks for the comment, ill reply in numbers like you did! 1. Yea that’s true, equally effective way to get some chords, I’ve done that a few times when I know the exact pitches I want but scale mode is fun when you don’t know what progression you want yet, that’s why I enjoy both. 2. Thanks for checking out the first beat too! I basically worked out that workflow because I thought it made the most sense for performing in a video, for me personally. And yea youre right, the way youre describing is the way it was designed but I just didn’t gel very well when I tried doing it that way. I probably didnt give it enough of a chance. In terms of arranging that way properly, I can’t actually remember the full ins and outs. All I remember is thinking it was ridiculous and working out my own way haha sorry I don’t have a better answer my friend 3. Yea external controllers are a possibility but for me having to connect it to another thing defeats the purpose of why I want it, I just wanted to play around with a little box, having fun with samples. To be completely honest the velocity thing doesn’t actually bother me anymore! Whenever you accept the sampletrak for what it is, you can settle in with it and just enjoy it for what it is. Hope that answers everything, I haven’t picked it up in a couple months due to being busy with other projects but your comment has made me eager to pick up the sampletrak haha thanks for that, I owe you one!
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@decaystar 2. "treat a 'song' like a pattern/sequence".? 🤔 "3 minutes on one pad/song?". Not possible, even if there was more than a minute of sample time; he wasn't treating a song as a sequence in the other video but the other way around!; & you are conflating "pad/song" whilst those words are not interchangeable anyway as the usage of the foward slash implies. The recording of the pad play is in MIDI, not audio. That's why there is no need to do what you suggested.
@decaystar 8 ай бұрын
@@thekeysman6760 Thanks for the knowledge!
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@decaystar The sequencer could hold 8 songs & has a 5000 note limit, & the pads are for samples rather than songs, but I get what you mean if it were to have more sample ram like the new MPCs. You could then do what you said. Which can also be done in Koala app on iOS or Android too for a few quid! Highly recommended for recreating the Hip Hop cutting techniques & work-flow of the MPCs & the SP line. With included bonus of Split Stems. 👍😉🕊️
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@decaystar If you were specifically referring to the way an SP or MPC has a pattern sequencer triggered by pads, then I misunderstood you! This doesn't have that. But also remember that is only based on MIDI information for your "3 minutes", not actual audio samples of three minutes. That's what I thought you were implying, because we can do that nowadays. 👍
@entrarrapido524 Жыл бұрын
Barato ?? Ya se elevó su precio
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Cheap in comparison to sp1200’s going for 10k, but expensive for what it is yea, I hope that comes across in the video, thanks for the comment my friend💪
@keenanjackson8953 Жыл бұрын
i got one😎
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Niceeeee Keenan, this a recent purchase or had one for a long time?? And what’s your thoughts on it, I’d be curious to know
@Unaqer 2 жыл бұрын
if u compare og samplers vs the modern ones, or daws, none are worth their hype, in terms of functionality. then again f u get a sampler like that its for the sound. the 224 is not hyped at all. had it for more than 5 years and info about it is just as rare as the unit itself, the manual is super good and only some tricks are not mentioned in there. i didnt get a card with it. and i dont feel i need it, as i ACTUALLY sample stuff with it, then give them that ring by repitching. the filter sounds awesome! as it sounds so much better than the old mpc2000 filter, or the roland sp's. its fx its all u need. there is swing too for the super simple sequencer. what else do u need? waveforms? p-locks? lol
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the comment my friend, really appreciated your thoughts and opinions! It is an awesome little device and I will be definitely be making a whole lot more videos exploring it in depth until I can say I know it inside out. I agree the manual is actually great, surprisingly straightforward haha and yea you are right the smart media cards definitely aren’t necessary but they will be for some people. I plan on just using the internal storage and one memory card and not being too precious about keeping stuff saved. I do love the filter too, and yea there isn’t a whole lot of info about them but majority of it is positive which is great but can make things overpriced. I said under a different comment that my hope is everyone gets the opportunity to buy one at a good price, make some good music with it and pass it on for the same price when they are done with it. Meaning as many people as possible can have there own relationship with the Sampletrak, that would be amazing! They may be limited in number but doesn’t mean we all can’t get an opportunity to show it some love💪
@MGoolas 2 жыл бұрын
Just ran a quick search while watching your video and holy cow , these things sell for £300 now ? I swear in two years their price got tripled. !!! As for the sampler, what a great machine and how much of grit it has. If it didn't have these dogshit pads and note on only through midi it would have been amazing. Btw is sp303 worth the hype ?
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that, on the last day of editing before posting this video I checked eBay in the UK to see if anything had changed from time of filming and there was 3 that were uploaded for about £300 so I watched the end of each auction in the days following the video release and none of them actually sold which is good but they were immediately re-uploaded for the same price, you might actually be looking at the same ones. People can ask whatever price they want but doesn’t mean much unless people buy it. So hopefully people ignore the overpriced ones and don’t bite the bait. And lol I feel you about the pads and midi man, its certainly lacking in those departments, its a real shame. Also I dont have an sp303 but would happily add one to my arsenal if they were a reasonable price. I have watched a lot of stuff about them and the common narrative seems to be that they are cool but very limited unless you combine them with another sampler like an MPC. I believe thats what J Dilla used to do too. Don’t know if you seen SPVIDZ before but he has a number of good videos on the sp303 that will probably answer a lot of questions you have about it. Here’s the links kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNOIjaiBnt2wp3U.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d86imbWlsLyZnXk.html Last thing is that the vinyl sim from the sp303 that everyone praises so much is now apparently on the new SP404 mkII, another great KZfaq Liam killen mentioned it in a video and seems to suggest this means the sp303 has less appeal now due to this and you are probably a better off buying the new mkII with far more features than an old overpriced sp303 with limited capability. Link below kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iaxga8uJqOCUo5s.html But yea this is all the info I have came across, not my opinions, thanks for the comment my friend, I hope this helps✌
@saysomestuff 2 жыл бұрын
I looked this week because I was thinking of selling mine (I've seen sense now of course!). If you filter results to include sold items on eBay you can see a few have sold recently in the £220-£320 range. So at least now I can tell my wife it was an investment 😂
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@saysomestuff Sampletrak, the New Bitcoin haha that is crazy money like but I do wonder if we are currently at the max it will go for or if it will keep going up. Only time will tell my friend but make sure to be making the most of using it if you are keeping it. Would be a shame not to!
@saysomestuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ ha yeah, there are few people sitting on 500 DOGE coin who should've got one of these 😂 I do enjoy using it and have spent a bit of time getting it to fit in with my circuit and microbrute but I don't think I've found the right setup yet. It's really good fun to jam it with my PO-33 though
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@saysomestuff lol about the doge bit😂😂😂 and that’s fair, sometimes a piece of gear doesn’t come to life fully until you’ve found the right setup and workflow for you. Also funny you say that about the PO-33, got one a few months back and plan on doing a video on it soon. Hadn’t thought of combining it with the sampletrak so cheers for the idea Cole, much appreciated!
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't review its main selling point for the price at the time. Timestretch.
@drewgrit_ 8 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point but I’m not making a review of it upon release😂 so “at the time” isn’t as relevant as what I find important about the unit today. A review in the 90s and a review today are going to focus on different things. I hear what you’re saying though, I might talk about that next time. Thanks dude!
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@drewgrit_ And the Auto Sync feature was pretty cool too! 👍
@griseldagsfx6888 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to have this wit my sp404 sx but this ain’t cheap 😭😭
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
I feel you my friend, everything in the music production world is up in price. I was looking at some overpriced tascam cassette players today and reminiscing on how they were a quarter of the price a few years ago. In an ideal world, it would be great if people paid less for the sampletrak and passed it on for the same price once they are done with it. Meaning that everyone could get to use it for a reasonable price! Thats the dream haha
@griseldagsfx6888 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ that’s facts lol and damn them rascal cassette players are mad nice too there’s like endless gear that should be cheaper but isn’t right now.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@griseldagsfx6888 without a doubt my friend, thats so true. I am hopeful the overpriced gear bubble will eventually pop but that might be wishful thinking haha
@christiantorma2440 Жыл бұрын
Die Kiste war schon vor 20 Jahren geil
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Awesome then and still pretty cool today haha thanks for the comment my friend!
@rossmachala2119 2 жыл бұрын
This workflow belongs in the 90s
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha was rough to to get used to, I can’t lie. Especially when I kept forgetting everything I’d learnt previously when I picked it up the next day fs
@RoomAtTheTopStudio 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ I've not used mine for a couple of months so I'm here to see what the workflow was again. I like the Sampletrak though. The effects and the resampling will come in useful for some of the tracks that I will be working on this year. Should work well alongside a vintage MPC.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio I couldnt agree more, my exact thinking this past week has been that the sampletrak processing, effects and resampling coupled with a 2000xl for example could be the perfect combo. Taking all the Pros and avoiding the majority of cons. I have been keeping my eye on every vintage MPC on ebay but all so expensive. I cant justify the price financially at the moment but hopefully soon enough haha but yea thanks for the comment my friend, much appreciated!
@x_x5204 6 ай бұрын
you remind me of colm from Derry
@drewgrit_ 6 ай бұрын
Hahaha shoutout uncle Colm💪
@Paulatejande 2 жыл бұрын
Smart media is easy find on aliexpress
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I wouldn’t even have thought to look on aliexpress, never use it because of the long delivery times haha thanks for the info Cahe, I’m sure this comment will help a few people get their hands on them! Much appreciated💪
@EARART 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok I've had one for years
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving your opinion dude, its great to have other people giving their thoughts so that anyone considering buying has multiple sources to help make their decision. Much appreciated my friend✌
@EARART 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ 1hunna
@addictedtocraic 11 ай бұрын
I used to yse flashcards from digital cameras. A tenth of the price for 10x the storage! Yer welcome.
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
Ooooh ok interesting, I’ll keep that in mind, thanks for the tip bror💪
@addictedtocraic 11 ай бұрын
@@drewgrit_Nay bor mate. I got them from Jessops in High St facing Cash Converters but I'm sure you'll get them somewhere in Dat London.
@bigkingsha Жыл бұрын
they're not rare or hard to find - ebays got a bunch for $200 +....still got mine...had it since 2000
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
are you from the US? The only ones i can see on ebay right now are from japan or US
@Dawhud 5 ай бұрын
I remember seeing it in adds in 'The Source' and in other equipment catalogs, so "conspiracy theory," no.
@drewgrit_ 5 ай бұрын
Love that dude! It would be sick to see the feature in The Source to see what they said about the sampletrak back then, hopefully someone can find that! Thanks for the comment my friend💪
@enekoprins Ай бұрын
I came across this video because I want to get rid of mine and thought nobody would be interested in it. I am living in Spain though, I don't know if I will have a lot of potential buyers. Anybody interested, just comment.
@drewgrit_ Ай бұрын
Hopefully someone sees your comment, people are definitely interested in these! If nobody sees this I’d recommend trying Facebook marketplace or eBay to sell it. Good luck my friend💪
@Sneakycat1971 2 жыл бұрын
It was considered almost a toy when it first came out . Zoom had just bust on the scene back in the late 90's. The zoom track wasn't bad but it wasn't what any serious beat maker wanted back then. I don't think you was able to trigger the samples with a midi keyboard and that's what turned people off about it.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Yea man I get what you are saying. I can definitely see how it could have been considered more toy like. If they had properly implemented midi on the sampletrak it would have been a game changer and sway a lot more people into trying the device. I am still enjoying using it, however midi isn’t my priority thankfully haha thanks for the comment jimmy I appreciate it! More sampletrak content coming soon if youre interested💪
@Sneakycat1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ I wish I would have kept mine because it was fun to mess around with. I ended up getting the first korg electric tribe sampler a few years after.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@Sneakycat1971 they come and they go dude! The korg electribe is also really cool, would definitely take one myself given the opportunity.
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
'90s*, no apostrophe saying "90 is". Apostrophe omits the 19. 😉👍 Nineties.
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@Sneakycat1971Wait, what? "Zoom bust on the scene in the late '90s"??😂 Try 1983, 'kiddo'! Prince was using their guitar fx in the '90s! I know, I was there! 😊 If your number is your year, you're 2 years older than me! 🙏 Recent reports say coffee is good for staving off Alzheimer's. 😉🕊️
@TheBusterMan 2 жыл бұрын
Dollars?
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
do you mean 200 dollars? Im a confused what you are asking my friend
@wakefieldsteven Ай бұрын
Just seen one on cash converters for £140 😂
@drewgrit_ Ай бұрын
That’s awesome, great to hear it’s moving around for a better price than before. Especially in somewhere that’s usually overpriced like cash converters😂 thanks for letting me know my friend💪
@culturemax234 8 ай бұрын
Wanna sell it?
@drewgrit_ 8 ай бұрын
Haha sadly not bro, i wont be selling it any time soon but thanks either way haha
@goonknox Жыл бұрын
The sequencer is a headache 😅
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
Definitely dude, I’ve just grown to accept it at this point haha but I’d say to people trying it for first time, the lower the expectations the better your experience will be😂
@goonknox Жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ 1 million percent 🤛 🤣
@soundblaster2009 2 жыл бұрын
this is what the sp202 and sp303 should of been.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
That’s interesting, I get what you mean and im sure that will annoy a lot of sp202 and 303 fans but it is what it is haha everything has its pros and cons! Thanks for the comment my friend✌️
@soundblaster2009 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ it's the truth man lol. I still use my sp. The mk2 is just now catching up with features the st has.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@soundblaster2009 hahaha i will take your word for until I get myself an sp, tempted by them all lol but realistically probably wouldn’t use them enough to make it worth the price. The sampletrak does what I need and I’m definitely happy enough with that. What samplers have you tried dude?
@thekeysman6760 8 ай бұрын
@@soundblaster2009Nah, the 202 from a year prior to this was better apart from the SampleTrak had an extra 30 seconds time at full rate & the 202 had more quality settings. And the 303 is better too. The sequencer on the Zoom is only 24ppqn! The MPC-60 from 11 years earlier in 1988 had 96ppqn! 😉
@marcusbrothers5221 2 жыл бұрын
You'll change your tune...
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean dude?
@nobbystyles4807 2 жыл бұрын
great video. but you know you dont have to put an insert or a meme for every single word you say right? i can easily just concentrate on what your saying without a visual reference.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hey nobby thanks for the comment. I feel you I really do, I personally prefer the way you’re saying too but the internet has become so overstimulated that videos need to be engaging every 2 seconds or else the majority of people fast forward or worse, click off. It’s a bit of a nightmare honestly. I don’t know if you’re familiar with producer and KZfaqr Ricky Tinez but his content is great, he can just sit and talk for as long as he needs and it’s amazing. I definitely hope to build up to a point where I can do the same but it’s much harder when you haven’t built up a following yet. At the moment nobody knows me so playing this game of audience retention with fast paced editing and memes is just something I have to deal with and pray I balance it well. But yea I totally hear you and thanks for being one the one people concentrating on the video and actually giving it a chance. This is still very new to me so I really appreciate it!
@BerakObama 2 жыл бұрын
It’s called a groan tube lol
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
BRUH you absolute LEGEND. I owe you one seriously hahaha going to buy one tonight now that I know and maybe sample it for a beat😂
@BerakObama 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ hahaha definitely make a video
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@BerakObama if I do end up doing it I will definitely give you a shoutout my friend, thanks again!
@reggiegimmix9128 2 жыл бұрын
So he bought a sampler/drum machine and didn't make a beat with it then did a video review... duh! ... this review gets a thumbs down from me.. also not fair comparing it to an SP404 which is newer and more modern piece of kit. Zoom 1999 and sp404 2005. 6years is massive difference in the music tech world.
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback reggie, I am still early in this content creating game so comments are useful. Feel free to thumbs down, you have every right to do so. I feel what you are saying about the time between sp404 and Sampletrak but also we are in 2022 and they are two strong options for buying a sampler, so I don’t personally don’t see any issue with comparing them. Especially when they are in similar price range but I do get your point, that’s fair enough. In terms of not making a beat, I could have included that but it would have made an already long video even longer and like I mentioned I plan on making that a separate video. I chose to focus on the sound of the device rather than the beatmaking because that could be considered the most important bit for a lot of people. Not everyone of course but I hope you get what I mean. Like the SP1200 is appealing to most people in 2022 for its sound rather than its primitive workflow in most peoples cases. My main reason for buying it is running audio through it for its character so that is what I made my video about and as I said the velocity issue really damaged all motivation I had to make a beat. I have nothing but love for the Sampletrak, it may have looked like I was shooting it down but really I want it to stay a reasonable price so that everyone can have a chance at using it. Cheers for the conversation✌
@reggiegimmix9128 2 жыл бұрын
@@drewgrit_ No problem.. It was a decent review... I just felt it lacked some more expanded insight into the good and bad of the device.... I just felt you didn't really get into the sample chopping and beat making side of it very much, but Is see where you are coming from. I agree not having velocity sensitive pads is a downside but I don't think velocity sensitive pads were even available on samplers and drum machines from around that period. As I said your points are valid. I think the big hype about this machine is the quick workflow for sample chopping and the sound you get from your beats compared to the expensive SP1200. Value wise it's a lot cheaper and gives a good account. Obviously when looking for bells and whistles and functions of todays devices then many people would think it's complete junk. I would say the biggest downside of the Sampletrak is the midi... or lack of it. It mentions in the manual but forget about using any form of midi on this. It's litteraly non-existent. So people really should be made aware of that major pitfall. You can trigger the machine to start stop from midi but forget about triggering individual pads etc,.. They pretty much added midi ports but didn't implement it at all. It's great for making up beats and tbh I rarely use the effects...they're fun but a bit too dirty and gritty for me, the other downside is the song mode... it's also pretty crap. So for me great for making beats an drum patterns but not full songs, very easy to use and chop samples and assign to pads but not a device for use in a full midi setup. Keep up the good work..
@drewgrit_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@reggiegimmix9128 That is really interesting that we are coming from it from different angles, like the effects for me is the main appeal, I love the dirt and grit of it, hence my name haha Thats fair about the midi too, I have heard people bash that before, its a real shame its not better. And in terms of exploring the full ins and out of the sampletrak, I think that would take a full hour long video and dont feel like people are willing to invest that time, especially since I am new on youtube. So I am going to explore as much as I can across maybe 6 vids on the sampletrak, thats the hope anyway and will keep the points you have mentioned in mind for those. Cheers dude✌
@hstone0808 Жыл бұрын
My microgranny can do most of that stuff and it was cheap
@drewgrit_ Жыл бұрын
I just looked it up because I hadn’t actually heard of it before, looks like it’s discontinued unfortunately but I might still investigate picking one up. Thanks for the recommendation my friend✌️
@hstone0808 Жыл бұрын
@drewgrit_ they're out there, try reverb, they deal in used equipment, I've gotten a few items from them. My favorite is monotribe.
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
Reverb is actually where I got my 2000xl, great website tbh. Could easily empty my bank account on there so I don’t go on very often for my safety😂😂
@hstone0808 11 ай бұрын
@drewgrit_ man! You just said it all! Because that is where I got my microgranny, volca 2, monologue, monotribe, td-3, stylophone 2,.....and...something else, I'm sure I'm leaving one out.... I did get my microfreak from amazon though..... but once I found reverb and Sweetwater....coupled with affirm!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!
@drewgrit_ 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha yesssss dude, you know what’s up for sure. Sick to talk to someone on the same wavelength😂✌️
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