Lol

i love my m16

@@chasemarshall8876how are temperatures doing multiple basic tasks? Do the fans turn on often? Like web browsing and that type of stuff

​@@chasemarshall8876i don't

Correct , the same reason convinced me too.

Exactly... Reason why I love my G15. Not many guess it's a gaming monster.

Can't find it anymore, did he remove it?

Ah sorry mate I don’t see it either. It was definitely there before. Perhaps you could ask them for it?

Thank you re the Blade 16 - I wasn't aware. Re the Alienware we are aware its a dark screen, I believe we had the reading in one of our graphs and we did factor that into our scoring

Same

I'm thinking about buying one would you recommend it?

agreed. they need to throw the 4080 in the slim 7i case...

@@TheComando156cooling would be terrible

@@DocHudson420 Maybe not actually. I own an Acer Predator Helios 16 (not Neo) with an RTX 4080 and the GPU runs cool even on higher workloads.

​@@DocHudson420 Well, I just got a Pro 7i with a 4080, and it doesn't run hot or noisy in the least, unless you press it in high performance gaming, but even then it's acceptable. For daily use, there are no issues at all. So, even if the Slim is a bit more neat and portable, I think the trade offs just aren't worth it. 4060 or 4070 are not very much an upgrade this gen, but the 4080 is and has at least acceptable 12 GB of VRAM. You have to think a bit long term. It isn't more expensive if it lasts 2 years longer.

​@@henrikg1388where did u buy it from

You will regret once charging port becomes loose.

How is the battery life

​@@michaozga7825 How'd you know thats still an issue in the newer models? I'm not saying it couldn't but have you seen it still happening?

@@nikhilanandpandit8644 i have the slim 7 amd with 4060 and the battery life doing light tasks like homework with lots of brower tabs open i get ~6-8hrs with little tweaking

@@michaozga7825 is that a documented issue? i googled it and didnt find anythign

What do you think of the 4090 model? Do you think its worth it? How much difference is there between 4080 and 4090 model?

@@zeroxinfinity5816i think M16 is best with 4070 due to the slim design. A more powerful GPU could overheat a bit the system, so I wouldn't go further than 4080. There is a difference obviously between 4080 and 4090( you can check KZfaq videos on it), but the biggest gap is between 4070 and 4080. If you really need 4090 power, I would look for something else. The Strix Scar 16 or 18 is better, but also thicker. I don't think any laptop offers good RTX 4090 performance in a slim design, even 4080 is a bit of stretch. Perhaps the zephyrus duo 2023 since it has good intake due to the screen lifting up, but that's quite expensive, you need to look for reviews. I also saw Asus recently launched some X16, which can use external GPU, if that's something you're interested in ( for example get a model with lower end GPU and get an external 4090 or something).

@@93xDmario Thanks for the detailed comparison! I bought the 4090 model a month ago from Best Buy, its still within the return period (2 months). I got it open box for around $3200 (with taxes). My biggest gripe with it now is the subpar battery life, and the fast battery degradation. Its already down 7 percent of its original battery health which makes me think it had a defective battery. Plus I don't like the keyboard at all. Its a fingerprint/dust magnet and it looks awful outdoors. The screen is excellent though. The miniled is great! Other than that I don't really have that many complaints over the performance, I was playing AC Mirage 4k for about 60-70 fps and 100-110 fps with frame generation. I think atleast for this generation of games it should be fine I guess ( but I doubt it for the next gen). But Im not sure whether to return this and even if I do what to get lol!

@@zeroxinfinity5816 RTX 4090 will be good for a long period of time, don't stress about it. When a new game is released, nvidia also launches a driver to optimize the GPU for it, so it'll be fine. 4k gaming at 60-70 fps is great, you don't need more than that. And games which require higher fps, like moba/shooters, will definetely run at max refresh rate for your screen even at highest settings (probably not on 4k however). It'll take like 3-4 years until games will demand way more, as the game engines get updated. For the battery issue, it's indeed strange, perhaps an issue from factory with the battery itself. Wear is normal, but not to this extent. For example I have 19% wear on my almost 3 years old laptop. I did take care of it, kept the battery charge at 60%-80% max when I used it mostly on cable, but still, 7% in a month is insane regardless of charge level. In the first year you shouldn't see more than a few %, perhaps 7-10% is what I would expect after a year if you didn't take care of it at all. If you don't want to complicate your life with warranty and all, I would just return it and simply get another one brand new / look for other models. For the keyboard and chasis, indeed, mine is also a fingerprint magnet and gets pretty dirty quickly. I have some cleaning kit which I use and it held pretty well in time, the material itself I mean. For the keyboard itself, not sure what to tell you, I still hold on to my laptop because it has an optomechanical keyboard. It's sooooo good to type and game on it, it has a really satisfying clicky feeling and really good travel / response. Sadly Asus doesn't make those anymore ( it was only one generation I think), I guess people didn't like it because it's a bit more noisy than a normal keyboard, but for me it's absolutely insane and if I have to go back to a normal membrane keyboard I'll get depression. All-in-all, personally I would return it so I don't have to deal with warranty for the battery ( since I think that batteries also have a shorter warranty time ), since you don't know if they will replace it. Technically, it still could be "within parameters" so they might reject your request. If you choose the same model or not, it's another good question. I don't think there's another laptop on the slim side that is better than this, unless you go for the most premium stuff, like zephyrus duo 16 or perhaps Razer (tho, razer got thicker this year). However, those are way more expensive I think. Sadly 2024 I don't think will bring much for gaming laptops...we probably won't have new GPUs and about CPUs not sure, but the current generation is enough for gaming aspect for a long time. So, unless you're willing to pay more, you'll have to look at 14" models ( lenovo slim 5 14" ) or maybe lenovo slim 7. Still, not sure any of them have RTX 4090 variants, probably not even 4080. I think alienwares are also pretty slim, like M16 model, probably a little thicker than Zephyrus M16, but I think their design is, simply put, ugly af and the price is more premium. They do have some white models, which would reduce significantly the fingerprints you see. Not sure what to tell you man, but I would start by returning that model. Afterwards, you could decide to reorder it, try something else as mentioned above or just wait for like 4 to 6 months to see what comes up on the market. Perhaps, since next year we won't have new GPUs almost surely, they'll focus more on cooling, design, making thinner laptops, etc...but no guarantee obviously. It could be worse tho, looking at the model you have in my local shops, the RTX 4090 variant is $4950. The 4070 variant is $2850 (32gb of ram) so...enjoy the good life of having best-buy and other such stores :D ... I got depression when I saw the 4070 variant on best-buy for $1500 ( it had $450-500 off )... In eastern europe appreantly we're "rich AF" and can totally afford this s!%t xD

Slim 7 is noticeably more comfortable

Then I need to reprioritize my choices, being a programmer first, gamer second. The choice of keyboard becomes of paramount importance. That's why I value your content so much since you look at things from the same lens. Lenovo, if you are seeing this, consider making an 14 inch legion slim 7. It would so make our lives easier. :)

Hey man I'm about to buy omen 16 with amd 7840hs and 4060 ...can you provide your experience with your laptop ? How's the heatsink? Any complaints?

And how is the battery life? Is it any good?

@@vladsynytsyn3074 Haven’t done a full test but I don’t carry my charger anymore when I leave the house unless I know I’m going to game.

Thank you for the lovely comment!

Well said

Razer blade 16 struggles with heating, battery bloating may occur

I have one coming up with that. Several actually. the Answer is Pavilion Plus 14 OLED btw. Its a monster for the price

@@JustJoshTech great thanks! Would love to see it in the style of your 14 inch comparison, individually scoring battery life, keyboard, screen, etc

Agreed, it really is more comparable to the slim 7, especially at the 4060 and 4070 variants. It’s a really sleek looking machine and is a lot more portable than the desktop replacement laptops.

I returned it (the M16) and got a Razer. what a mistake... the M16 screen is excellent, performance is almost as strong as the Razer, and the build quality was excellent. I returned the Razer as well. 😞

Why haven't you uploaded in a while josh? 😢

​@@JesseProwisori dont want clients like you at all

@@cheaterhimself I’m working on a number of videos right now! Just busy with life and stuff at the moment 😭😂

I've seen it. At the end of the day... if we act with our wallet. Nothing will get a company to change faster than falling sales

Why

Any update bro?

@@shengyaoyap9352 great machine. Am running it mostly on silent mode, and still gives me plenty of power.

I wish I understood any of this

Then why don’t you just buy that one?

@@shanksworthythe cooling on the P1 isn’t the best. It’s a workstation laptop.

Anything above 70 series is super expensive, so I'm fine

​@@lucascamelo3079 for real, it's mad.... But 8gb wont last

Thank you so much!

The 7 is $800 at best buy right now

This is exactly my use-case, as I have been debating between the Blade 16 (Mercury, with 4080), the Alienware X16, (4080 or 4090) and the Lenovo Legion Slim 7i (4070). My criteria were basically 1) that it was relatively slim and lightweight, 2) that it could handle the games that I play when travelling (CS2, Doom: Eternal, Rocket League, RTS games), and 3) that I could open it up in a boardroom / customer meeting and still have the machine look like a "normal" laptop. The Blade 16 met most of this criteria, BUT, I've had several Razer laptops in the past, and I'm always skeptical about their longevity. I've also heard some horror stories about the 16" dual-mode MiniLED display on the Blade 16. It was also an eye-watering $5200 CAD for the Blade 16 (Razer or Amazon.ca pricing). The Alienware X16 is a laptop I'm a big fan of, but for two points. 1) The "butt" on the X16 makes it hard to fit into any of my current laptop briefcases or backpacks, which means I'd need to buy a new one. Two, it's not the least bit subtle as a device to open up in a customer meeting. As much as I'm a big believer in the concept that the messaging / presentation should be the important factor, the reality is that the appearance of the messenger can be just as critical. And the Alienware kind of tarnishes the messaging somewhat. I LOVE the Alienware, and I could pick one up (refurb'd) from Best Buy in Canada for $2800 CAD, with the 4080. Good deal for the level of performance. In the end, after testing out a Lenovo Legion Slim 7i in several local Best Buy stores, I picked one of these up. Keyboard is great (on par with the non-mechanical Alienware keyboard), trackpad is better, display is brighter, and it's 1.5 lbs lighter. It also fits into my briefcase with no issues. Performance is pretty good overall; 200+ FPS in CS2, running everything on high, native 2560 x 1600, and that's with Optimus (not dGPU mode). Same with Doom: Eternal: 2560 x 1600, native, high (not Ultra), no DLSS, and 200+ FPS. I only picked it up last week, and I have until after Christmas to return (if desired), but I'm pretty happy with it. Everybody tells me that I should want a 4080 instead of 4070, but for my use-case, it's the difference between having a 350 HP car and a 500 HP car. If the speed limit is 130 km/h, what difference does the extra 150 HP made?

​@PatrickButhmann difference in HP means you are more dynamic in short race, that's the point. Also old fiat can drive 130 km/h and so does tesla but lol, 😂 doesn't it funny?