I'm taking UHMWPE vs. Kevlar vs. Fiberglass to try and find the ultimate pistol rated armor. One that works, not only to stop a bullet but protect the body. That is also lightweight, cost effective, and raw material availability.
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@evansaw293 Жыл бұрын
30 seconds in and I learned a thing. Underrated channel.
@RohanG11111 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you do 3R
@rajnimaurya953513 күн бұрын
Why indian watching this viedeo
@graveleater9746 Жыл бұрын
It would be very interesting to see if some kind of rubber backing like a horse stall mat could mitigate backface deformation
@Steven-gv1ke Жыл бұрын
They make blunt force trauma pads to go behind steel plates and they are pretty cheap.
@letsgobrandon8271 Жыл бұрын
Wholeheartedly agree. Gotta mitigate that impact. If I understand correctly, 44mm is considered deadly. So, how to fix this is the $20 question. Companies have not figured it out either.
@johnd434810 ай бұрын
Definitely reduce the impack of the bullet to the back side. Like a trauma pad.
@stevesmith7565 ай бұрын
Check out RXR protect from France. They have small airbag technology for armor to reduce impact force to the body
@joshwagner4368 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I think you hit it right on the head with the Kevlar. Its strength is in its flexibility. Putting it in a rigid matrix doesn't let it do its thing. It will still have structural strength, like in a boat hull, but loses all of its ability to transfer the energy under impact, shattering locally instead of moving that energy into the wider area.
@deezTX7 ай бұрын
what about a layer with no resin, just a sticked "Looser" layer that does "bend" and move" as kevlar should, sandwich that between layers of rigid fabric. ?
@elmultimediaschoolofartscu3924Ай бұрын
Thanks😊😊😊❤🎉🎉
@LessLethalDad Жыл бұрын
Hey man just discovered you through my man at 1shot. Great channel you have here 👊💯
@johnpeaceseeker3 ай бұрын
i will recommend you to use the 4140 steel plates 5mm thick and also 30 layer thick fiberglass and 10 layer of aramid fiber resin pressed attach to the steel plate with the polystyrene resin and hardener. or any other liquid glues super glue or any other strong glues ok. always use the resin and hardener when you want to make bulletproof armors use the resin and hardener and fiberglass to make it more harden ok the resin press make the fiber stronger it can stop the rifles. if you use the 30 layers fiberglass resin pressed and also 4140 steel plate. or ar500 steel plate must be attach to the pressed fiberglass
@jmrk113 Жыл бұрын
Good job, how many layers of fiberglass
@letsgobrandon8271 Жыл бұрын
Seems to me, that stopping the round is only half the battle. The impact is deadly as hell, and I think that would be a slow, painful, death ☠️☠️☠️. How do you mitigate the impact?? Good video, just found the channel through 1shot. Good glass! Good video and great information. Thanks, subscribe.
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 1 Shot made a great video. Yes, back face deformation can still be a killer. Mitigating deformation on impact seems only viable in hard armor plates. That’s why I like pressing UHMWPE or using Fiberglass with resin. Also, using good quality Kevlar with tight stitching will also help tremendously.
@deezTX7 ай бұрын
What about Farday Fabric ? some of the high quality has unique weaves and layers.
@3RBallistics7 ай бұрын
I haven’t used any yet but I’ll look into it.
@stevesmith7565 ай бұрын
Check out RXR protect from France. Airbag technology to reduce trauma behind the armor
@3RBallistics5 ай бұрын
Looks like very interesting stuff. That would be great to test against bullet energy transfer.
@LupusMechanicus Жыл бұрын
Precipitated calcium carbonate (repti-cal) suspended in a poly ethylene glycol matrix diluted with acetone and brushed on kevlar makes the best pistol/flak armor period.
@Steven-gv1ke Жыл бұрын
Source? Video?
@LupusMechanicus Жыл бұрын
@@Steven-gv1ke search term "shear thickening fluid impregnated kevlar"
@Dave-ck8cf Жыл бұрын
Great 👍 video 😮
@brianmikus6023 Жыл бұрын
What if you use your polyethylene fabric to make a trauma pad and place it behind your woven roving plate that you made previously. Could that slow a rifle round down enough to be caught by the light weight pad?
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
That’s a good idea. Definitely worth a try.
@26ct29577 ай бұрын
Great videos. Would you please make a video showing different methods of mitigating backface trauma. I am particularly interested if D30 plates would stop the trauma. This would have the advantage of maintaining flexibility with soft armour but possibly be better than traditional foam padding? ( I know nothing about guns as I’m from the UK so apologies if D30 ballistic padding already exists ).
@3RBallistics7 ай бұрын
Great idea. I have some previous tests working backface trauma but without maintaining flexibility. I’m thinking some kind of flexible polyurethane with a shore 85 hardness.
@26ct29577 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics Thanks for the reply. Have you seen the D30 in action? It’s a non-Newtonian fluid which they have somehow encapsulated in a foam matrix. It’s possible to make something similar at home using PVA school glue and borax but not sure how to make it into a foam / solid like D30.
@priority19Ай бұрын
I sit through the video, and in summary still not sure which one did the best... please tell us in order which did best...
@Six4691 Жыл бұрын
Just a question on distance; since most self defense shootings are within 7 to 10 yards, wouldn’t it make sense to shoot closer? Great video, and thanks for sharing your journey.
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
Yes it would. I shoot at 15 yard’s because surprisingly enough I still get random fragments coming back at me. I’ve recently changed some of the testing to 10 yards and it seems about the same so I’ll probably keep it there for future videos. Thanks for the input.
@kristijan70012 күн бұрын
How many layers did you put of Fiberglass?
@allenols31756 ай бұрын
Nice
@ancesthntr10 ай бұрын
Ever thought about using tungsten plate, wrapped inside layers of Kevlar, impregnated into resin? Would seem to make a good hard plate.
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
I plan on some wild hybrids coming soon. I may have to throw this combination into that mix.
@sambob80199 ай бұрын
Yeah maybe for that you wouldn't want it to be completely rigid I wonder if there's a semi rigid thing they could add to it
@jacksonkeck1805 ай бұрын
Complete newb here but could different types of clay be stronger than the commercially available type. A lot of ceramic shops have a bunch of different kinds and they can all be heated to different temps.
@3RBallistics5 ай бұрын
Yes, they can. I have had the opportunity to fire my own porcelain in a kiln. However, I haven’t found much ballistic difference using clays ranging from cone 6 through 10. However, there are so many different variables when firing clay that I’m sure there are advantages that I’m missing.
@bretrogers785910 ай бұрын
Great video. So the end question is, which one do you consider best as the title states? Also, is there a hybrid of a couple different types of fabrics that may work best together?
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
Overall the easiest and strongest seems to be UHMWPE. It’s just hard to get in raw material. I’m working on a hybrids that may have the best of all 3 fabrics
@nicepojos87668 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics @bretrogers7859 asks a valuable question there. Right after viewing your video for the first time, I readily subscribed. That's how interesting (read: educative) your vids are. A simple clear and organised summary /conclusion will elevate the quality of your vids to a whole next level. The rest is intersting enough to not be skipped anyway. Keep 'em coming sir.
@jonathansadeghi18 күн бұрын
Where did you get the uhmpe from. How much was it?
@thomashillmer429 Жыл бұрын
Was the S fiberglass easier to work with compared to the welding mat fiberglass?
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
Much, much easier to work with. I dislike working with the welding mat fiberglass the most.
@iherebaang71732 ай бұрын
Can carbon/kavlar hybrid bullet proof
@Davidautofull Жыл бұрын
try one of the first, soft panels behind of the S glass, please.
@SGCXD9 ай бұрын
Interesting stuff! Does the cutting board material work better if it was heated and compressed? Just thinking of an option in case things can’t be ordered easily online
@iherebaang71732 ай бұрын
What is the best
@Eidolon1andOnlyАй бұрын
Some materials I'd like to see tested; 1) leather 2) silica desiccant beads 3) BBs 4) small glass marbles 5) steel mesh window screen 6) paper 7) liquid latex 8) Flex Seal/Tape 9) rubber contact cement 10) kitchen sponges with the green scrubber side. 11) playground sand 12) pumice/lava stone gravel Not necessarily all those things combined, but tested in different combinations to make either "soft" or hard body armor plates, with some of these materials being saturated/permeated with some of the liquids listed, perhaps with the aid of a vacuum chamber. Most of the materials I mentioned are affordable and/or readily available/accessible. Just some outside of the box ideas to consider.
@jabuticaba2000Ай бұрын
u forgot garlic bread vs banana bread. also: boogers
@user-sb9fw6ui2i5 ай бұрын
Why not implement 12”x12” ceramic tiles into the plates, and even add a layer of polyethylene plastic to prevent the projectiles from fragmenting and spalling?
@3RBallistics5 ай бұрын
Mostly weight. There is not need when only stopping pistol rounds. Tiles usually add about 5 pounds by themselves. These plates are closer to 1 pound so it seems counterproductive to add 5 times the weight.
@user-sb9fw6ui2i5 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics ok. It’s your broken ribs and a possible punctured lung.
@3RBallistics5 ай бұрын
@@user-sb9fw6ui2i understandable. It is however the way commercially available pistol rated plates are made. Nearly all security and police officers wear these plates. Makes you wonder…
@user-sb9fw6ui2i5 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics I’ll take the extra weight. With the 62gr M855 rounds, they’ll blaze right through your plates, front and rear, like a hot knife through butter. With the firearms that people are carrying, sidearms are a secondary weapon. Just be thoughtful of the plates you carry, it could prove to be a fatal mistake. I’m not criticizing you for your idea, it’s a great idea, but just put some thought into your plans. Especially when people who cast their own bullets, could be casting pure zinc bullets.
@3RBallistics5 ай бұрын
@@user-sb9fw6ui2i I understand. I have other plates and videos showing how to make and stop m855 and even up to M2AP rounds. This video was just to show what it takes to make a level 3A rated (pistol) plate.
@xtcxtwo111 ай бұрын
Great video! How many layers of kevlar did the shooters cut have? Where did you get it?
@3RBallistics11 ай бұрын
The soft shooters cut had 24 layers of two different aramid fabrics. UD Kevlar and Kevlar 29. I got the Kevlar from two different sources. The UD Kevlar I was able to purchase from eBay but the Kevlar 29 I had to purchase from ArmorCo.
@deonventer807110 ай бұрын
Have you tried "Honeycomb" layers with soft cell, to dispur energy?
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
That’s a great suggestion. I haven’t tried it but I may in the future.
@mrj9951Ай бұрын
What kind of fiberglass is that? Is it available online? How do you work with it? - cutting and any resin or anything? Or is it a panel you can get?
@3RBallisticsАй бұрын
@@mrj9951 the fibeglass used is 18oz woven roving E-glass. It’s actually quite easy to find. I tape the edges and cut with serrated scissors (keeps the fiberglass from fraying). After that I use total boat brand epoxy resins (slow cure) and press the plate with clamps when I’m done.
@mrj9951Ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics super neat material ..I must look this up. I've been studying for the best material. That seems very strong. E glass. Is it fairly affordable?
@mrj9951Ай бұрын
How many layers of e glass did you use on the plate shown?@@3RBallistics
@user-vb6jx4tc6q Жыл бұрын
Good job! Please, how many layers of C-fiberglaas and what was the distance of shooting?
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
50 layers of 5 oz fiberglass. We were 15 yards away.
@matthewkearney8570 Жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your UHMWPE from?
@hhkk6155 Жыл бұрын
Heating UHMWPE can degrade its strength, try to glue it with resin. But I don't know what resin will get a good bond to it, that a topic to resea😢
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
True, unless you keep the heat below 350*f (175*C). Resin is unlikely to stick to a slippery material like PE. However, Resin (like polyurea) has been better at encapsulating the UHMWPE.
@lexwill7186 ай бұрын
I use T88 for the chemical bond. you have to remove the plastic cover sheets on both sides of the UHMWPE or your project will fail.
@lexwill7186 ай бұрын
curious about the heating and pressing process you use
@3RBallistics6 ай бұрын
T88 has very poor bond to polyethylene. It states this on their own website.
@riverbrown89356 ай бұрын
Where are you sourcing your fabric
@3RBallistics6 ай бұрын
Many different places. Most fiberglass is from either TAP or Composite envisions. You can also get Kevlar there. I also use eBay and or Skarr Armor for UHMPE. You can also find better deals if you are looking for bulk in any of those items.
@thomashillmer429 Жыл бұрын
How many layers of each? What is the weight of the tested item? Thank for testing.
@3RBallistics Жыл бұрын
UHMWPE soft plate was 24 layers and 11 ounces. UHMWPE hard plate was 30 layers and 1 pound 3 ounces. Kevlar 29 soft plate was 20 layers and 13 ounces (smallest dimensionally of all of the plates). Woven Kevlar hard plate was 25 layers and 1 pound 6 ounces. S-type fiberglass was 52 layers and 1 pound 10 ounce.
@gamecubekingdevon310 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics what was the density (gsm) of the aramid used in the 25 layers hard resin plate?
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
@@gamecubekingdevon3 it was only 185gsm or about 5.5 oz
@gamecubekingdevon310 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics ok!
@qwertyqwerty95878 ай бұрын
Good video, alot of information there what about the gsm on the uhmwpe?
@TacShooter4 ай бұрын
Have you tried silk?
@3RBallistics4 ай бұрын
Yes, I’ve tried silk but it doesn’t work. I tried everything from inexpensive silk pillowcases to expensive tightly woven premium silk. Neither worked within reason. It took over 2” of premium silk ($280) 6x6” to stop a simple 9mm HP
@3RBallistics3 ай бұрын
@TacShooter actually found a demo ranch video showing the same idea. The big difference is probably quality of silk I used and also I sewed 5 layers at a time then taped them together kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otSVdc6nt77Rimw.htmlsi=bTNAPPLVrQNW82a-
@DamianPendragon10 ай бұрын
Could ballistic nylon be used in place of fiberglass for a fiberglass resin pressed armour plate? Or how about denim?
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
Both can be used. However you’d have to use much more material to stop the same projectile which might be counterproductive
@DamianPendragon10 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics have you ever tried it? How many layers of ballistic nylon do you estimate a person would need to make a ballistic plate, using resin? I ask because I am not able to test these plates myself. I could make them, but not test them
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
@@DamianPendragon I have tried ballistic nylon and resin but it took 2 inches to stop a 9mm. Denim is weaker so I feel it wouldn’t even do as well as the nylon. However, I’ve never actually tried it.
@DamianPendragon10 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics thank for telling me. I really appreciate it. Fiberglass is just too hazardous for me to work with. I don't have a place I am willing to fil with fiberglass fibers. If I do it in my house, I'm worried I won't know how to clean it up well enough. If I do it outside, I'm worried my pets will get it on their feet and lick it off or something. So ballistic nylon is the next best choice for me
@DamianPendragon10 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics what if ballistic nylon is used in conjunction with an aluminum plate? Just a regular piece, like from an aluminum sign, on the bottom and top. Would it make it possible to make it thinner than 2"?
@paolodeep8459 Жыл бұрын
👍🏻
@gamecubekingdevon310 ай бұрын
how much layers was the S2 fiberglass plate?
@3RBallistics10 ай бұрын
It was 55 layers
@gamecubekingdevon310 ай бұрын
@@3RBallistics ok! so, 55 layers of 5oz (141 gsm?) ?