you should of done the vortex package more then likely you had a bad scope on your mossberg, i shot my 6.5 creedmoor vortex under 1" moa

Agreed have had several patriots and even put one in a mdt chassis they are golden IF you can actually shoot

YOU get what you pay for!!! A few DOLLAR more GET A HOWE BEDING TRIGGER WORK LAPPING. TARGET CROWN.ETC COME HIGH I A M OLD NOW BEEN AT THIS FOR 60 YEAR

Did you guys zero the scope ?

Cpl of things... 1) why not use that same Leupold scope on all 5 rifles for more consistent control group? 2) You never even said what caliber these rifles were.. or if they were all the same caliber.

3rdEye Spy nope I got an increasing echo after the midway point

Glad to see that someone else eats pizza from the same place. I was tripping just like you.

Either way, I'll have a slice of whatever you're eating

3rdEye Spy I thought it was my air pods

Cody Ralston you too huh?

You are the hero I needed

REM 783

Thanks for doing this Caleb.

Thank you

Much appreciated

Well said. The YT market is way too saturated with TACTICOOL SPEC OPS BEARD MAN reviewing equipment you'll never be able to afford. These guys, just producing average Joe content on hunting and guns is very refreshing.

Well said, thanks

Yes. I find it depressing how militarized hunting and gun stores have become.

@@Svensk7119 ya man, I’ve been in the service for 16 years now and I can’t escape it. I guess tactical shits cool up until the moment your getting shot at.

@@Pays2Win Amen. Or dang, depending how you look.

I had to check the comments, I though my speakers were screwed up. Thanks man. 😂😂

Yeah, I kept hearing a 1960's football announcer yelling...."lo ook ook aaaaaaaaaaat that at at sununun of ff aaah bbbb&^%& Itch ruuuun!"

I had that echo occur too. It started getting real bad until I paused it and started playing again. For a while there I thought my phone was messed up.

it tripped me out. i just took some cbd oil and then everything starts echoing. i thought i was trippin

Travis Smith thank you! Wow it was real bad so I scrolled through the comments and saw your fix.

Buy a savage in .270 and put a decent scope on it. Leupold scopes are the best for the money and will hold the zero forever. that combination is budget friendly, stupid accurate, and just amazing. Pawn shops are your best friend if you are looking for a cheap bolt action or shotgun

@@kevinb871 thank you so much Kevin for the recommendation !!!

Kevin Bandt that’s what I did. But in .308. Went to a local pawn shop got a savage axis 2 for $300. Had a nice Weaver on it. Saved up and then put a vortex on it. Can’t go wrong really with either of these rifles now days. Just get good ammo and a good scope. Ruger American is a solid shooter as well

I worked at Cabelas and had a LOT of customers tell me that the Compass was by far the most accurate, in terms of people raving about accuracy. The Ruger is good, but I doubt as good on average as the Compass.

@@dannylandrum7899 i actually heard the opposite on the compass. I opted out of the compass because i heard that customer service was terrible and the tolerances were few and far between. I also read that they werent a very long lasting rifle before they started shooting bad and theres some pretty important pieces that are plastic in them. So i went with the savage axis in 6.5 creedmoor.

lol

That’s right because they got it wrong on this gun. Possibly their rifle needed lapping or some other defect but the patriot out performs the axis and xpr in every way unless there is an actual factory defect. It happens. I recently saw a $1600 custom maple marlin 336 that wouldn’t hit a half sheet of plywood at 100 yards. Remington guys can’t make Marlins apparently. Or 783s for that matter. That said these guys did say many times they may have gotten a bad sample rifle. I believe that to be the case.

Yes I have the mossberg 3006. Yes I upgraded to Bushnell scope and it performs well. With Winchester and Remington ammo

Mossberg patriot is a very accurate rifle

@@blaws6684 I have a Mossberg Trophy Hunter, an ATR with the 4x4 trigger guard and removable mag, and it is very accurate. But I wouldn't consider a dog rifle at this price point a damnation on the entire model line. Now if you got a dog Weatherby, then I would be very annoyed....

What do you recommend?

I have the ruger, savage and 783 I personally like the 783 and the stock is much beefier, magnum barrel instead of pencil profile and hands down better trigger. After I work the bolt 50ish times it's smooth as butter. These guys must be biased on the 783 cause alot of people including myself love them. I have a first gen savage also and I will say savage is lights out in the accuracy department for sure as they true every barrel they make. For me if I had one to pick and I have 4 of these rifles I'll take the 783 all day. I did have to trim a spot on the stock under the barrel to fully free float and that's it 1inch groups all day.

Looking for my mini 14 rat now

I bought the exact same gun and had it perfect at 100 yards within 15 minutes 🤷‍♂️

Yup got the same deal. I wouldn't call mine a tack driver but it consistently shot .7 and .8 5 shot groups @ 100 yards.

After hearing many gun shop stories no rifle is ever bore sighted from the factory. Or if they are all the jostling through transport negates it. Plus buying a rifle with a scope from the factory is a bad idea anyways, the scopes they supply are junk.

I own 2 savage axis 308 great guns

i'm REALLY new to shooting so excuse my dumb questions. but i just bought a patriot 300 win mag. what's the crown protector and how do you put a taper on it?

@@philipbrown7977 The crown is the end of the barrel. The crown protector is that ring they put at the end of the barrel. Most barrels don't have that inset at the end. If your new to this stuff, I suggest you take it to a gunsmith. It only costs about $75 to have them take it off and put in a 10 to 14 deg tapper.

Have you had any rusting issues on either of them?

What motivated you to buy the same rifle in the same caliber 3 times?

My neighbor has one in 30-06. He bought it from someone who needed the money. However when we took it to the range, it was sold for the same reason the guys had with the Mossberg. Not real sure it would consistently hit a milk jug at 100. They are right - depends on luck as to the copy you get.

Should my dad buy it 😂

@@mediationvideos734 it's a good gun for the money, why not 🤷‍♂️

I concur mine is in 6.5 and it is incredible

You got to work your gun dont come out of the box andll become the best gun you ever had it take time work and someone with gun smart..................................get off the gun tablle....

@@user-uh1gd5fm4y I tried to read your comment but you sentence structure made me feel like I had a stroke and I dont know what you're trying to say, can you fix that for me please?

True, I actually watched it a cpl times thinking I missed it, & wondering if all 5 were the same caliber as well

Truth.

Carlos Rivera the Remington is 270 223 243 300 308 7mm 7mm-08 30-06 there’s probably more

I agree, I did notice they were different which I would think to get accurate data the same round should be used

With the problem of accuracy you had with the mossberg patriot rifle, my first thought would be were the action screws torqued down properly. If the action is moving/shifting because the action screws are not tight, there's no way it would be able to shoot accurately. So I don't know if you checked the action screws or not, but that's the first thing I do when I buy a rifle is torque my action screws down to the correct ft lbs of torque.

Nelson Cobb thank you! We appreciate it and hope you enjoy what we have to come. We are always trying to work on something cool and exciting as well as informative.

Backfire You’re welcome! I’m sure y’all will do just that!

I genuinely thought it was me and then I questioned whether I was crazy or not and maybe it had been like this the whole time and I never noticed. I mean I really love the content but Callie it sure would’ve been a lot more fun had I’ve been on some thing. 😂

Savage makes incredible barrels, but the gun around it always suffers. So you made the right mods

WHO_TEE_WHO what is your set up if u are able to divulge

I really like the go wild cammo version. The predator is nice too. Going with 7mm-08.

Awesome feedback! I love the gunsmith perspective. You see things most consumers never will.

@@backfire agreed! 👍

It doesnt really surprise me when it comes to the Mossberg Patriot rifles having junk barrels. I remember picking one up and inspecting it at my local Dick's Sporting Goods and it was just screaming 'too good to be true!' At a deafening volume, LOL. real walnut stock, nice finish on the stock and all the metal on the rifles, not to mention a fluted bolt and fluted barrel for around $350. Yeah, unfortunately I was right from the get go and it is basically in the Webster's dictionary if you look up the phrase 'very nicely polished and fluted turd'. 💩 It doesnt really surprise me though, even with the shotguns that are popular, the Model 500's/590/835 all feel SOOOOOO insanely loose and sloppy they feel like they're going to just start falling apart in your hands when fired. Compare the Model 500 to the other big dog of pump shotguns....the wonderful Remington 870 and there is just no comparison in my opinion. I'll be the first to admit that the Mossberg shotguns ARE good reliable weapons I just cant get past the complete lack of ergonomics and loose sloppy tolerances when compared to the Rem 870, Browning BPS, any of the Winchester 1200/1300/SXP'S or even the old Ithaca Model 37's(2hich Ive never been a fan of) but IMO, in the pump shotgun world the Remington 870 is the Cadillac of that world while the Mossbergs are the Ford Explorers, LOL.

Anthony Ridge I agree with you about the rifles for sure. I do, however, feel that the receiver and bolt would be a great start on a bolt rifle build if you had some money to put into a rebarrel and blue print job. They’re very easy to head space, and have a good bolt design. I completely disagree about the shotguns though. I’ve shot and worked on both. I’m a Mossberg 500 guy all day long. I’ve had more business from parts breaking off of Remingtons (like the ejector) than I have Mossberg 500 series, and the Mossberg’s are much easier to disassemble and maintain. The 870 is a good shotie, don’t get me wrong. Just my opinion. I do agree that the Mossberg’s tend to feel a little looser though.

Probably don't have any experience with the Ruger rifles because they are all pretty much a guaranteed sub MOA rifle! Especially if you season the barrel with copper fouling and shoot it "dirty" only cleaning it occasionally with gun oil. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA or better with most Hornady factory ammo!

I would recommend the 6.5 creedmoor as a good in between round that offers the kick of the 243 with the knock down power of the 308.

A ruger american is much better than just "casual hunter" status. I've laid waste to much more expensive hunting rifles at the range with the three that I own.

@@keithqueen352, I didn't mean to imply that the rifle was just a "casual hunter" type. I know several serious shooters/hunters types who have purchased the "Ruger American" for themselves and or spouses.

@@michaelquillen2679 just checkin' lol!

Nice and .270 is a good round for killing any game like bears and deers

What has been the best ammo for yours?

@@wes326 I zeroed it with Rem core lock 150gr they are a little slow (2750fps) from my chrono. I made some hand loads with Hornady 140gr interlocks at around 2900fps & they are fantastic on paper anyway havent got the chance to use on a creature yet.

@@r1ckgr1m3s8 Thanks, I'll give those a try.

@@wes326 hey your last reply caught me when I was in my reloading room I looked up the data with the 140 grain Hornady interlocks I was using 54.3 grains of IMR 4831 with a CCI large rifle primer

350 legend you couldn't find a better round then that junk. If you needed a straight wall case. Why not a 450 businesses, 45/70, 444 marlin. That cartridge will be dead in ten yrs

I am not a new shooter but i am happy to now guns under 450$

Best advice is spend the money on a well built firearm, and scope (if you're going to use a scope). Pick a popular caliber you will be able to find rounds for anywhere. I have needed to buy rounds in small towns before, and you'll probably run into this one day. Lastly, know what you're planning on hunting, and the grain bullet you will prefer. The rifle twist rate is going to determine which bullets you can shoot accurately. 6.5 creedmore is a newer super popular round, although the twist rate on lots of these rifles could have issues stabilizing larger grain bullets. If you get a .243, .270, 7 mag, .308, 30-06, or .300 win mag you can find rounds anywhere.

WoMetal thanks for the good advice! It looks like I’ll need to do a bit more research to understand twist rates and I’ll need to test which grain bullets shoot best from my firearm. Thanks again!