Best Linux for Framework? 6 Distros Tested!

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Elevated Systems

Elevated Systems

Күн бұрын

Testing 6 Linux distros on the Framework Laptop for beginners. Pop OS, Manjaro, Fedora, Zorin OS, Elementary OS, Endeavour OS.
Fingerprint Reader Install Instructions - blog.b-ark.ca/2021/09/06/debi...
Guide on Framework Forum - community.frame.work/t/finger...
Fingerprint Reader Install Script - bit.ly/FP_Reader
This will download the script to your ./usr/Downloads folder
To use:
~$ cd ./Downloads
~$ bash ./FP_Reader_install.sh
Timecodes:
0:00 - Opener
0:22 - Intro
4:35 - Pop OS
10:08 - Important Don't Skip
10:27 - Manjaro
12:13 - Fedora
13:50 - Zorin OS
15:26 - Elementary OS
16:49 - Endeavour OS
18:51 - Charts & Benchmarks
21:50 - Conclusions
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@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Taking requests for episode 2. I'm limiting it to 3 distros for time sake.
@MalekiRe
@MalekiRe 2 жыл бұрын
Gentoo
@trailblazercombi
@trailblazercombi 2 жыл бұрын
I think ChromiumOS might be an interesting one
@JimiSol
@JimiSol 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I would love to see how well Void Linux works.
@dontmindme8709
@dontmindme8709 2 жыл бұрын
@@MalekiRe Hehe that's an episode in itself :^Þ
@proxxyBean
@proxxyBean 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see vanilla Arch.
@sharonb.9128
@sharonb.9128 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I’m one of your non “geek” viewers. I’ve only owned Windows and MacOS machines. I watched because I thought Framework laptop was only a Windows machine and kept watching because you explained Linux and it’s “distros” in an interesting way even I could follow along with. I saved this video as reference material for both Framework and Linux.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the effort payed off for the "target audience"
@sayeedalsifat1308
@sayeedalsifat1308 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to get into linux and want some advice, I'll give you some. NEVER LISTEN TO THE DISTRO ELITISTS
@circuit10
@circuit10 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all Windows PCs can run Linux
@dokidoki5850
@dokidoki5850 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. never ever listen to the LINUX DISTRO ELITIST as they can be a little bit harsh and intimidating. they a few of them in on YT. i wont tell who they are but do ur best to avoid them. just follow what this kind-hearted mr had suggest and take it ez. do at ur own pace.
@sayeedalsifat1308
@sayeedalsifat1308 2 жыл бұрын
@@dokidoki5850 I personally do watch Distro elitists sometimes, cause they're frickin entertaining
@wallegamecube
@wallegamecube 2 жыл бұрын
heads up! for Zorin and Elementary, you need to upgrade the kernel to at least 5.14.12 for the Intel wi-fi card to work, not just 5.12
@hansdampf2284
@hansdampf2284 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably true for every distro not just zorin and elementary.
@whitealiens
@whitealiens 2 жыл бұрын
It probably depends of the card. I have Intel AX200 and it worked straight out of the box even with 5.4 kernel.
@jpsalis
@jpsalis 2 жыл бұрын
Mint is probably the same way too. I think my instal from last year came with 5.8 LTS. Worked fine for this older laptop but might be an issue with newer hardware.
@SpencerKaup
@SpencerKaup 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I just ordered mine and I have been a long user of Zorin OS Pro Makes me feel way better
@systemmodmen2157
@systemmodmen2157 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is becoming something unique and I love it
@theena
@theena 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is exactly what I, a definite future customer of Framework and Linux user, was looking for. I seem to recall the CEO of Frameworks saying that a couple of development models were sent to the core maintainers of Arch Linux. Can't wait for those people to get this working.
@LiveType
@LiveType 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually speechless that power management on Linux is exactly where it was 10 years ago. It's like I never left. If you want better than windows battery life you need a minimal arch install with powertop and the most important part, properly enabled hardware acceleration. I did the same test on one of my backup laptops and arch beat out windows by a good 5%.
@RonWolfHowl
@RonWolfHowl 2 жыл бұрын
People are saying Microsoft and Intel collaborate pretty closely on power optimization, and I tend to believe that.
@MrGamelover23
@MrGamelover23 2 жыл бұрын
In other words, you need to tweak it yourself. Nope, not gonna happen. I shouldn't need to, so I demand it improve. I think, given the prevalence of laptops and tablets, this is unacceptable and inexcusable. Red Hat's trying to hire some HDR developers, but I think they need to prioritize power draw first.
@savantshuia
@savantshuia 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGamelover23 Lol, stop freaking out, I have a minimal arch install with just tlp installed and battery life is no different than it was with windows 10, there is also cou frequency scaling you can do.
@Beck-pc7ip
@Beck-pc7ip 2 жыл бұрын
Just use it plugged in
@nee._
@nee._ 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrGamelover23 god damn dude your comment would be fine if it wasn't for the "I demand it improve". Ok? let use know when you're someone who matters. Also the "how dare they make it so I need to tweak it myself" you just bought an entire laptop that you have to tweak yourself. Linux should get better, but so should your attitude because this is peak cringe.
@ShilohFox
@ShilohFox 2 жыл бұрын
As a Linux enthusiast, I have to thank you for all of the hard work you put in for this video! It’s really amazing to see you show Linux distros to the general public as a proper OS rather than a ‘hacker’ thing. You’re doing great work!
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@RichardJActon
@RichardJActon 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparison, super informative. (I see you've incorporated the feedback on the graphs looking much better!)
@snagle87
@snagle87 2 жыл бұрын
Very in depth testing for the time giving. I really like how you pack in so much valuable info in a short amount time. Keep it up!
@soucouyant
@soucouyant 2 жыл бұрын
Distro dancing. Got to love it. Great video as usual. Blessings.
@michaelgreer7306
@michaelgreer7306 2 жыл бұрын
It might not be "made for linux" BUT it is one of the only laptops that cuts out the price of Windows if you decide to order it without an operating system. Would also be interesting to see how a distro targeted at efficiency would perform in terms of battery life; something like LUbuntu or a barebones Arch install.
@gasun1274
@gasun1274 2 жыл бұрын
isn't being os-neutral the whole appeal with framework's laptops?
@hirose3871
@hirose3871 2 жыл бұрын
@@gasun1274 It's easy repairability and modular design is it's main selling points
@lucyinchat
@lucyinchat 2 жыл бұрын
@@gasun1274 Star Labs' laptops are, however, very OS neutral, down to allowing you to choose what your BIOS implementation is.
@MrUploader14
@MrUploader14 2 жыл бұрын
battery life on Linux isn't bad due to the efficiency of the distro it's bad across the board due to no distro enabling hibernation by default. this mean even when the laptop is asleep everything is turned off or in power saving mode except the ram. and if you do enable hibernation by default you have to partition an amount of storage that is equivalent to the max capacity of your ram and can't be used for anything else. but considering most tasks on a laptop don't require more than 16gb of ram and battery life i very important it really should be enabled by default or at least have an option to enable it in the install wizard.
@lawsonkennamer6554
@lawsonkennamer6554 2 жыл бұрын
Love the frame work videos man I'm getting mine thursday when it comes in the mail.
@giomjava
@giomjava 2 жыл бұрын
This is cool! Can't wait to see which is better, I'm waiting for my framework to arrive
@TheDeathmail
@TheDeathmail 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping with the finger print reader... honestly, I looked EVERYWHERE and couldn't find the help I needed. And it was done the absolute easiest way possible...
@herrxerex8484
@herrxerex8484 2 жыл бұрын
Very exhaustive video , excellent work.
@vpxc
@vpxc 2 жыл бұрын
I like the wide range of how technical your various videos are. Your DIY projects seem pretty advanced to me, as a non-hardware person, and I like that you have some newbie-friendly software stuff too
@johnbovay8353
@johnbovay8353 2 жыл бұрын
An informative video. Thank you. BTW. It's worth pointing out that the Framework Laptop was only released this summer. Thus, I'd expect that all of its components should enjoy OOTB support upon the next LTS release of more GNU/Linux distros.
@ccahua
@ccahua 2 жыл бұрын
Great clear comprehensive overview, thank you. Would like to see your dual boot setup in the future.
@Aemulatius
@Aemulatius 2 жыл бұрын
Awsome comparison. Thx for your effort. I had the same findings with these distros.
@spicytuna62
@spicytuna62 2 жыл бұрын
I've been running Ubuntu on my 10 year old laptop for a year or two, and I've been using Ubuntu on and off since 2012, and I love it. It's always amazing to me that something as complicated as a complete operating system can be had with no ads and a good level of respect for your privacy for free.
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 2 жыл бұрын
And yet, think of it: PCs are useless without an OS. An operating system should get out of the way and be hardly noticeable (basically just there to run apps) I'm glad you're on linux, but I don't think you really grok it. There should be no surprise. The shock is that operating systems became anything other than free. You wouldn't be surprised that a keyboard comes with a laptop, right? Is it surprising your keyboard comes without ads?
@setaindustries
@setaindustries 11 ай бұрын
I'm so happy Fedora worked so well! I already use it as my only OS and I have been looking into purchasing a Framework laptop, so this video was very useful, thanks a bunch!
@slowercuber7767
@slowercuber7767 2 жыл бұрын
really nice video. Well structured and easy to follow. Thanks!
@westonbean9674
@westonbean9674 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. I actually daily drive Pop Os both 20.04 and 21.04. that's what brought me over. Cause when I need a new laptop im really looking at framework now.. was planning on system 76. But I like the direction framework is going. Great information great video. So now you got a new subscriber.
@generedwine6863
@generedwine6863 2 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your page. Great review for newbies. Timing is great for me. I am getting ready to order a Framework laptop and planning on using Ubuntu. So will be anxious to see your review on Ubuntu in a few days. Also will check out more of your work. First impressions of your work is very good.
@csells99
@csells99 2 жыл бұрын
very much looking forward to your coverage of Ubuntu on the Framework. my framework arrives this week and Ubuntu is my preferred distro.
@sabergo1
@sabergo1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing. Linux Distros can be like the weather, if you don't like something -- wait a minute. Looking forward to the Ubuntu setup.
@hutsoncappelmann603
@hutsoncappelmann603 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the hard work man!
@jean-paul5197
@jean-paul5197 2 жыл бұрын
Just commenting to help the algorithm. Looking forward to your Ubuntu vid
@wilsonjholmes
@wilsonjholmes 2 жыл бұрын
Love the video! You are very thorough!
@shiruba2004
@shiruba2004 2 жыл бұрын
This is great, but just FYI, the elementary os developers did make a post on the framework forums explaining how to get everything working. I'm interested in trying pop os, though, if it uses Wayland.
@debajyotimajumder2656
@debajyotimajumder2656 2 жыл бұрын
nice to see those battery tests
@Promontie
@Promontie 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@freeuyghurspalestinekashmir
@freeuyghurspalestinekashmir 2 жыл бұрын
CJ, man that was a great video.
@revenant7176
@revenant7176 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Very informative.
@jakeparker8675
@jakeparker8675 2 жыл бұрын
great video, subbed!
@pratikbin
@pratikbin Жыл бұрын
Thank you the efforts that you're putting. thank you again
@warthunder1969
@warthunder1969 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video. Love the content so far. I agree with Fedora even though I run PopOS because its so solid. I daily drove Fedora for a month so I'm doing Pop for hte same. I daily drove Ubuntu for quite some time but I haven't now for at least a year. Maybe when 22.04 comes out I will but we will see.
@im3sixty
@im3sixty 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! Subscribed :)
@rabumalal
@rabumalal 2 жыл бұрын
I would very much like to see that ubuntu video!!!. Great videos you are doing on framework laptop, thank you!!
@RichardJActon
@RichardJActon 2 жыл бұрын
Pop!'s hardware enablement program makes it probably the best debian based option for such new hardware. I'd bet you get a better ubuntu-like experience on pop and the you do on base ubuntu because of this actually, though less so in 21.10 than the LTS.
@MrJleonp
@MrJleonp 2 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@mikeaye098765
@mikeaye098765 2 жыл бұрын
Cj, thank you for the content and doing what you do! Stumbled upon your channel and I’m glad I did. I’m trying to learn more about the tech world and I’m a noob. Can you briefly explain your background in tech and where you gained your knowledge? And what paths you would recommend to get up to speed on the basics? Thank you!
@CAZOlsen
@CAZOlsen 2 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for sharing 👏🙂👌👍
@mdv9831
@mdv9831 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you aren't being too conventional and making an identity for yourself, I really like it. I'm have been a Linux user for 2 years. I started with Mint, then went to elementary, then to Ubuntu, then to Manjaro. I'm currently on Manjaro. I can handle a little terminal stuff, but I'm largely inexperienced. In fact I think I messed up the OS after mistyping a boot script. I had to reinstall the whole thing. I'm wondering where I can learn more about Linux, like is there some course I can take or some free resource online.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Arch is easy to break. Check out a video @Chris Titus Tech did about a year ago on how not to break Arch.
@comedy6631
@comedy6631 2 жыл бұрын
When it comes to linux, it can "break" but with some experience, a wiki and around 15 minutes, bringing a computer back to life is one of the greatest things to ever feel.
@rayirth.upside-down
@rayirth.upside-down 2 жыл бұрын
I am now a framework fanboy and can't wait for mine to ship
@brendenevans1186
@brendenevans1186 Жыл бұрын
Very helpful thank you.
@MyReviews_karkan
@MyReviews_karkan 2 жыл бұрын
Please try KDE for the next video. Also, kudos to Fedora and Gnome for this awesome work, and kudos to you for an amazing video. Thank you.
@jaimiepotts7638
@jaimiepotts7638 2 жыл бұрын
Fedora is awesome. I switch to 34 from Ubuntu earlier this year and haven't looked back! Also on the 35 beta atm and its so good. Much smoother!
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 2 жыл бұрын
OTOH almost anything is better than Ubuntu, including Mint. Ubuntu is a low bar to judge by. Just my opinion!
@kovacsgyorgy2602
@kovacsgyorgy2602 2 жыл бұрын
If I am correct, at the begging of the video you sad that the framework is not open source but they recently made that open source as well so that also a huge plus, great video, love to see where this is going
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 2 жыл бұрын
good video,fedora is really solid,very concrete,and good for users that want software thats up to date so they dont have to wait too long,but don't want to take any risks with their system.
@joe28753
@joe28753 2 жыл бұрын
Fedora user here looking into this laptop. Just what I was hoping to see. "Nothing to see here." Sounds good, thanks!
2 жыл бұрын
Hey man. I have a pretty recent laptop and it is always a trouble to get things working on those. The approach for this video is excellent- I love the "it just works" bulletpoints. As a software developer, I know my way around linux but sometimes I just don't have the time to deal with issues on my OS. I will give fedora a go. Keep it up.
@slowercuber7767
@slowercuber7767 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I'd currently favor Fedora, anyway, due to its relation to RHEL -- but I like Debian based stuff, too, especially for it being supported by Citrix Workstation in 32 bit arch (and 64 bit by now I hope) for ARM (to use with Raspbian and potentially in a VM on Apple Silicon machine).
@skatcat743
@skatcat743 2 жыл бұрын
A better way to get multiboot would likely be install bootloader & os to each storage device independently and use the uefi boot menu to choose which storage device.
@cheddar07
@cheddar07 2 жыл бұрын
I thought that this was how Linux does it by default.
@sonpham3438
@sonpham3438 2 жыл бұрын
@@cheddar07 usually uses grub or systemd-boot and it detects all the boot entries
@aussierule
@aussierule 2 жыл бұрын
The PROBE
@PotatotheTroll
@PotatotheTroll 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, getting the wifi working on Zorin involves moving or renaming what I believe to be a driver file. It works fine after a reboot with that, but an update may force you to fix it again, so I'd recommend saving the command to a file somewhere for safekeeping.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
I did that, it didn't work but I'll update with a stable working solution
@aelaan12
@aelaan12 2 жыл бұрын
My personal experience with different distros, over the past week, has been a ride. I am running the Dell XPS 9710 / 17 with plenty of everything. Long time Windows and MacOS user. I did fumble around, in the past, with different distributions like Fedora, Kbuntu, RedHat and the kids on the block are intriguing. I started with Fedora35 because I knew Ubuntu would run as Dell delivers their systems with this version, maybe not 21.10 but hey, gotta drive the latest and greatest. I loved the zen of Manjaro, a distro used at my work by the developers. It has a lot going for it I find. Long story short I erased Windows 11 and am now running Ubuntu 21.10. This is not going to be a forever distro but it runs super stable. Installed the latest nVidia drivers (495) and had a hard time getting bluetooth headsets that are not the average logitech and such to work (I have beats solo 3 because my history with MacOS). Bluetooth is somewhat of a different animal as the range is not very good, even sitting at my desk the bluetooth keeps cutting out so I am on the hunt for a solution.
@idtyu
@idtyu 2 жыл бұрын
Fedora 35 works well with nvidia already, 36 will bring it to wayland. Fedora devs actually worked directly with nvidia, wayland devs and upstream Linux devs to make it all work. But you might have to wait a bit for that to carry over to other distros.
@okamiboi
@okamiboi 2 жыл бұрын
So, quite literally, your best option for the Framework is Fedora.
@Darkshadowguy
@Darkshadowguy 2 жыл бұрын
I actually believe framework WOULD offer schematics of their mainboards to certified repair shops. May not be open source but close enough to be extremely excited to order mine!
@sreeenivas00706
@sreeenivas00706 2 жыл бұрын
Glad someone finally did this, but tbh also a little disappointed you did not try Debian.
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting test. It certainly will be interesting how better the Linux experience on Framework laptop would be in a years time.
@fooboomoo
@fooboomoo Жыл бұрын
Yea, not much by the looks of it 😢
@AndersHass
@AndersHass Жыл бұрын
@@fooboomoo perhaps the 16 inch will have hardware more compatible with Linux (as far as I can tell the biggest issue is the fingerprint reader currently).
@fritz_mg
@fritz_mg 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! I am curious whether any other Distro has a suspend power draw that comes closer to what you get with Windows. I was thinking of going with something like Ubuntu instead of Windows when I finally get my Framework. However the increased power draw really puts me off currently.
@bluephreakr
@bluephreakr 2 жыл бұрын
Ventoy completely tosses out the need to re-format the USB installation media over and over again, because you can just shove ISOs onto it and expect functionality with most of the popular distros. Works for specific-purpose Linux-based tools and Windows installation media as well! A real handy bit of USB software that makes distro-hopping that much easier for the Linux newbie.
@SSouper
@SSouper 2 жыл бұрын
You should have gone for a KDE variant of either Manjaro or elementaryos to get a more broader test score and to see how/show off display scaling/etc is in KDE.
@dontmindme8709
@dontmindme8709 2 жыл бұрын
I was also hoping there would be at least one distro with KDE Plasma there, but it does makes sense to go with the defaults for the sake of making comparisons from the perspective of a new user. Plasma just isn't a very common default.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
I'm considering Garuda with the KDE Plasma DE for the next episode.
@dontmindme8709
@dontmindme8709 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElevatedSystems Exciting to hear that there will be a second episode! Feren OS is also a good one that could be worth looking at. It's kinda like the Plasma equivalent of Zorin. Either way, I look forward to your next upload! :^)
@g0dm4st3r
@g0dm4st3r 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElevatedSystems I'd love that. Just installed Garuda last weekend on a separate drive to try it out on my computer and loving it so far.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
@Watcher Ubuntu 20.10 has worse battery performance than Garuda once you disable PSR, which is nessasary.
@bibekgautam512
@bibekgautam512 2 жыл бұрын
Nice ! A little disheartened to see the discrepancy in the power consumption compared to windows. Having 5/6 hrs vs. 3 hrs of usage from a full charge is a vastly different user experience.
@joaopauloalbq
@joaopauloalbq 2 жыл бұрын
Browser support for hardware video acceleration has not been optimal on Linux. It's a feature that has to be enabled and he probably didn't do that.
@cluberti
@cluberti 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaopauloalbq Also, the Intel WiFi driver just doesn't sleep as well (by default) under Linux than it does in Windows (because it runs in high power mode all of the time). This can be tweaked with.... potential side effects, but it's part of it for sure and the default is not optimized for battery life for sure.
@bibekgautam512
@bibekgautam512 2 жыл бұрын
@@cluberti I imagine this can be addressed with future kernel updates?
@bibekgautam512
@bibekgautam512 2 жыл бұрын
@@joaopauloalbq I was thinking that too. I wonder how much of a difference that makes.
@monotrope
@monotrope 2 жыл бұрын
@@bibekgautam512 Lets hope it gets addressed, this is a huge difference in usability.
@duser
@duser 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was really nice. I'm installing endeavor on my rig right now actually. I feel like I'll prefer it over arch thanks to it's easy installer I have to ask you something. Are there any linux utilities to automatically change battery profiles of a laptop when it's on battery? I used to use auto-cpufreq but idk if that is still a good solution.
@slowercuber7767
@slowercuber7767 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you'll do this one again later after Framework gets an AMD CPU option and again if they ever have an ARM laptop. I'm a Mac maniac, with a fondness for Raspberry PIs, but were I to get a non-Mac Laptop, it would be a Framework, preferably with an AMD CPU and good graphics capability (preferably something that would give me hardware acceleration for PyTorch, Blender and the occasional game).
@DavidEsotica
@DavidEsotica 2 жыл бұрын
Hoping for this too. I own a MBA myself but it will be my last Apple laptop due to difficult & expensive repairs.
@squirlmy
@squirlmy 2 жыл бұрын
Framework's repair-ability and upgradability is exactly the opposite direction that Apple has been going. Frankly I think you're probably already trapped with Apple's environment (probably the Apple Store) If you haven't escaped already I have little hope for you, it's waste of time to wait for AMD (if it even ever happens)
@imtiredtoday
@imtiredtoday 2 жыл бұрын
@@squirlmy Linus (from Linus tech tips) is trying to help Framework with the AMD thing.
@Aemulatius
@Aemulatius 2 жыл бұрын
@@imtiredtoday I recently bought a mini pc with AMD Ryzen 9 5900hx and Im running PopOS and this chip is a beast on Linux ! One thing to note: never buy a Linux laptop with Nvidia card. Nvidia just sucks your battery within 3h. Instead stick with a integrated card or use Radeon.
@imtiredtoday
@imtiredtoday 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aemulatius I know, even on windows it sucks.... (I have a laptop with a GTX 1050 ti and a battery life of about 3 hours...) So I am aware of Terrible battery life on battery... (I will use the laptop until it falls apart and I don't have Linux on it as of right now (since I need to use Adobe programs on the device for school...)).
@MrUploader14
@MrUploader14 2 жыл бұрын
if people are wanting to use Manjaro for the framework laptop i would recommend either gnome or kde plasma as they both have built in finger print sensors.
@stevenhe3462
@stevenhe3462 2 жыл бұрын
This is generally a good-quality video. Though I am a bit disappointed not to see the CPU and RAM usage for each distro.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
I'm cutting future episodes to just 3 distros so I can include a bit more for each distro.
@bitterseeds
@bitterseeds 11 ай бұрын
For the Manjaro part, KDE is the default. And as for a UI for finger prints, Gnome has had this for at least the 18 months I've used it on Manjaro. You picked the light weight XFCE. But it is what it is. :D
@Infinit3Enigma
@Infinit3Enigma 2 жыл бұрын
I've done many benchmark for my workload (scientific simulation like cfd) between fedora, manjaro and endeavors (all were kde) and definitely when it came to that workload, fedora was faster but manajro and endeavors did have runs that were fast. Once fedora updated to the same kernel, it was gg. Fedora is surprisingly good. If I do get a framework laptop and use linux on it...I'd use fedora now!
@lawsonkennamer6554
@lawsonkennamer6554 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try out fedora on my framework when it comes in thursday
@stevenanderson3205
@stevenanderson3205 2 жыл бұрын
I have Linux Mint 20.2 on this desktop computer i have a i9 10850k 32 gigs of ram at 3600 mhz a rx 5700xt and a z490 motherboard with wifi 6 and bluetooth 5.1 all works out of the box fantastic.
@martinenglish6641
@martinenglish6641 2 жыл бұрын
Best is a relative term. I use Mint 32 bit and 64 bit, mostly to repurpose older laptops and pc's. It is a personal choice on what distro a person wants. To date Mint has worked on my older machines and newer machines just fine and I also use the Steam OS for gaming on newer machines and integrates just fine with my Steam account. I usually use hardware 2 to 3 generations back. I do not need the latest and greatest crap to run what I need and want. I have dumped windows for about a year now. It just works.
@bland9876
@bland9876 2 жыл бұрын
13:30 this implies that you somehow can figure out where your finger is or you're constantly looking at your fingers. I use the double finger click on Windows because I don't know exactly where my fingers are on the track pad and so if I tried to do a one finger click I end up right clicking because I didn't realize where I was and it gets annoying.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 2 жыл бұрын
I literally waited for this video, on the other hand though does someone know a reliable reshipping company so that people in the EU can get their hands on a framework laptop?
@chechli
@chechli 2 жыл бұрын
Framework said they will make it available in the EU by the end of the year. So if you're not in a hurry, you might just wait these 2 (maybe 3) months.
@owlmostdead9492
@owlmostdead9492 2 жыл бұрын
@@chechli I know, but they haven't clarified if it will be ISO or ANSI keyboard. I'd need an ANSI..
@chechli
@chechli 2 жыл бұрын
@@owlmostdead9492 They just opened their marketplace last week, so you can check it out. Seems like they're will be offering both options.
@crashniels
@crashniels 2 жыл бұрын
@@owlmostdead9492 im hope it is ISO but I guess you could replace the keyboard with an ANSI one
@aka5
@aka5 2 жыл бұрын
@@chechli can you please give a source? Had a look but can't find where they said that
@sambarrett3059
@sambarrett3059 2 жыл бұрын
I think I will likely go Fedora. I'm a network engineer and I've found a lot of rpm based stuff in networking environments. I'm pretty comfortable just updating the WiFi and fingerprint driver
@spartanwarrior9179
@spartanwarrior9179 2 жыл бұрын
thank you sir
@stacyhackney6100
@stacyhackney6100 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Appalling68
@Appalling68 2 жыл бұрын
I will buy this laptop AS SOON as Framework offers up a Spanish keyboard.
@debajyotimajumder2656
@debajyotimajumder2656 2 жыл бұрын
CJ, the framework marketplace has launched...can you show everyone a tour of it. i think we all will like your thoughts on it.
@mklwld8647
@mklwld8647 Жыл бұрын
Ok video, showing how to move around and how thing works in Framework laptop which I'm interested too, but about fprint reader and logging into Desktop Environment is something I would say more, just like when you log in to DE you're using DM (display manager) and for example in manjaro which use XFCE it uses LighDM and this thing about login with fingerprint it's not in manjaro but in LightDM.
@dfec1391
@dfec1391 2 жыл бұрын
I wish that this had come out 15 hour ago! I got ubuntu working but with the mentioned headache because I stared with a kernal version 5.14 ... which also has some problems - and I wanted something that worked out of the box. I eventually landed on fedora 35 ... which is in beta
@sdas7731
@sdas7731 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the hard work you put into your videos. When I started using linux back in 2017 I found that Mint OS always worked out of box for my new desktop or 11 year old laptop. Hope you will find some time to review Mint on framework laptop.
@Trials_By_Errors
@Trials_By_Errors 2 жыл бұрын
I stop distro hopping after I discovered MANJARO.
@erwinamanciosilva7693
@erwinamanciosilva7693 2 жыл бұрын
Garuda kde please, also thank you for the amazing video, very educational and helps a lot, non expert linux like me to have some kind of perspective , Linux aint that hard as people tend to tell others, i believed those in the past, and tried linux half hearted, and never bothered with it again, but just gave it a tey recently and even with terminal things its very easy specially when you have so much already documented on communities and forums, well not very beginners(windows and mac) users friendly, but for those who really want to give a try and learn it, its very straightforward, just follow instructions and do some research in case its needed,most things already work out of the box these days.
@deurkl
@deurkl 2 жыл бұрын
This is very helpful but one important thing you missed is fractional scaling of the display. Which distro supported this the best? Look how huge everything is on 2x…
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the distros I tested don't have fractional scaling enabled so I didn't want to add one more "technicality" to the mix and scare away potential Linux converts. The goal was bieng able to see what you were doing in the screen. I'll go deeper into scale with my Ubuntu video.
@PotatotheTroll
@PotatotheTroll 2 жыл бұрын
I can't speak for every distro, but on Zorin you have to enable fractional scaling, and then it introduces screen tearing with any motion on screen. It does correctly size things though. My preferred fix for that is modifying text scaling and manually setting the height of the taskbar a little bigger, so that fractional scaling isn't really necessary.
@a11aaa11a
@a11aaa11a Жыл бұрын
Fyi, the GUI fingerprint reader is the same in Manjaro as fedora if you get the gnome version. Gestures too. Idk why they put xfce first, it's kinda crap relative to gnome 41+.
@matthewsjardine
@matthewsjardine 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you had very little trouble booting into Linux while running Windows 11. I thought the Secure Boot requirement in the UEFI would cause problems for folks looking to dual boot with Windows 11. I'm curious, would Windows 11 boot alright with Secure Boot off, or would you need to re-enable it each time you switch back to Windows? I am used to a simple boot list, without needing to open the full UEFI menu. Is that possible anymore?
@Aemulatius
@Aemulatius 2 жыл бұрын
I think the diff from the benchmarks is because of the diff DE’s you used. Some of them are more heavy than the others.
@UwUSAH
@UwUSAH 2 жыл бұрын
Fedora for the win! Fedora just keeps getting better and better, faster than other distros! And the core ethos is just far superior than canonical :)))
@aspenshadow7920
@aspenshadow7920 2 жыл бұрын
The choice for me really is do I want to install pop os and go through the pain of getting the fingerprint sensor to work? Or install fedora and grab the pop shell from the repo? I really like cosmic
@syeduroojkamal4986
@syeduroojkamal4986 2 жыл бұрын
one of these days I have to try fedora
@Anthropomorphic
@Anthropomorphic 2 жыл бұрын
Huh. I rarely see Endeavour OS get brought up in these sorts of videos, so that's interesting.
@mr.anirbangoswami
@mr.anirbangoswami 2 жыл бұрын
Coming back to this video, could you please show scaling at 150%, and how linux behaves at that setting? 200% imo looks huge on that 13 inch screen. Thank you in advance.
@Its-Just-Zip
@Its-Just-Zip Жыл бұрын
I'm a fairly experienced Linux user, but I'm still looking here for a double check before I get my framework. While I can probably fix most issues I don't want to have to.
@joaopauloalbq
@joaopauloalbq 2 жыл бұрын
Have you enabled Hardware Video Acceleration (VA-API) in Firefox?
@cphoover11
@cphoover11 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do an Ubuntu Framework setup next?
@Tigerex966
@Tigerex966 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a macintosh hackintosh install. sierra or above, thanks.?
@hansdampf2284
@hansdampf2284 2 жыл бұрын
I know this video is for the Linux beginner, but has someone tested gentoo? How good is the cooling? Is it doing thermal throttling after a while of compiling? Also distro do seldom solve hardware problems. They just have different version of the kernel, newer kernels probably solve hardware problems you would have. So instead of hopping distros you could just get a newer kernel for your existing distro.
@CorruptGhillie
@CorruptGhillie 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about installing win 10 as main os then just using virtualbox for use of kali, ubuntu, tails, etc? Could even buy a 1TB expansion card for all vms.
@ElevatedSystems
@ElevatedSystems 2 жыл бұрын
I run several VMs on my main rig however the Framework storage expansion cards have overheating issues that kills performance of any OS running on it.
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