Best Metal Roof Valley Trick

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RR Buildings

RR Buildings

2 жыл бұрын

When installing standing seam or
Snap lock roofing, this is the best trick to keep your metal scratch free! Keep a sacrificial piece of metal handy to take the abuse so your finished roof doesn’t have to!
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@nathanplank2841
@nathanplank2841 7 ай бұрын
I’ve worked on quite a few standing seam roofs and never thought of that for a valley piece install. Very nice work.
@manstuff612
@manstuff612 Жыл бұрын
A rare contractor who cares about the finish of their work
@SirKicksALot25
@SirKicksALot25 2 жыл бұрын
The little things that separate pros from the diyer lol I would have definitely scratched something and the piece your using seems to stay put while you work on it
@mrcoiganable2988
@mrcoiganable2988 2 жыл бұрын
The trim still scratched it, these guys botch it all
@robertholderman7552
@robertholderman7552 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcoiganable2988 : use a sheet of plastic for this .. ? Right
@a-a-ron6822
@a-a-ron6822 2 жыл бұрын
Most "pros" these days are just diyers with a few months more experience.. most real pros don't make KZfaq vids..... because their time is better spent actually working..... not talking
@justincase8731
@justincase8731 Жыл бұрын
They are both humans.
@Will_JJHP
@Will_JJHP Жыл бұрын
​@@a-a-ron6822thankfully, guys like Matt Risinger and his Build Show Network is out there educating pros and DIYers alike
@michaelsimko4445
@michaelsimko4445 2 жыл бұрын
Duct tape also on the backside of the scrap to prevent any scratches, great tip👍
@TURTLEORIGINAL
@TURTLEORIGINAL Жыл бұрын
Good one. Plus isn’t anyone going to say anything about that protective film left on? If I spent a fortune on a new metal roof, I sure as heck wouldn’t want any traffic on it! Furthermore, on a hot day, the sun and heat will make a real fun time peeling that film off. I’d love to photograph that roof from a high man lift when done! I guarantee, there will be more dings, dimples, and whatever all over that roof, when the person tries taking off that film!
@RandyModdSteller
@RandyModdSteller 11 ай бұрын
​@noonespecial1200 it comes off super easy especially since it's already pulled of around the seems where each piece is connected. Plus there is orange lift basket right there.. would not even have to get on the roof.
@zunigaalex42
@zunigaalex42 2 жыл бұрын
Professionals make it look easy
@johnferreira174
@johnferreira174 Жыл бұрын
Nice job. Wish more contractors took pride in their work.
@jackbookerjr.3047
@jackbookerjr.3047 2 жыл бұрын
I just want someone like that the next time I need a roof.
@josho4971
@josho4971 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a true pro that cares about results 👍
@FixItFrench
@FixItFrench 2 жыл бұрын
Videos like this make me realize how much I still have to learn! Great tip🤙🏼🤙🏼
@joshuaclark384
@joshuaclark384 Жыл бұрын
See this is why I love KZfaq. A little but genius idea.!!
@DudeBro824
@DudeBro824 7 ай бұрын
Wow, that looks so clean. Nice work!!
@calvinreichelderfer7989
@calvinreichelderfer7989 5 ай бұрын
Good to see someone that cares about their work!
@josiahfisher907
@josiahfisher907 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a great tip! I’ll definitely be using it next time.
@mikemckinley4887
@mikemckinley4887 2 жыл бұрын
These are the kind of tips I love that you share Kyle. Thanks bro!
@RRBuildings
@RRBuildings 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@shanew7361
@shanew7361 2 жыл бұрын
I agree bro
@eithieus1652
@eithieus1652 2 жыл бұрын
I use flexible plastic cutting mats. This is the best way to not scratch the metal. I use three plastic cutting mats at a time so once I finish with one panel I just move one of the three plastic mats up or down depending on if I’m working up or down. I tuck the plastic mat under and it hold the plastic mats down. Then you have more room to work with and not scratch the metal. I also link them together with duck tape and also at the ends of the plastic so they don’t slid around. 💰
@77ragingbull
@77ragingbull Жыл бұрын
Thanks man! I really appreciate all these little tips that you share you really made a big difference in my metal work. I sure appreciate you
@earthling01
@earthling01 2 жыл бұрын
These are such good tidbits to know in the trades. It's the small things ya know making it more enjoyable when doing them seeing the end result!
@joshuaclark384
@joshuaclark384 Жыл бұрын
This is why I watch KZfaq videos like this. Idk how many things I've learned from KZfaq that I have actually been able to use in the field.!!
@austintexas9287
@austintexas9287 2 жыл бұрын
It is a responsibility and do the job right! You can be my roof to go to..many roofer contractors (including my concrete roof tile contractors did a half ass job by NOT even a nail to secure the roof tile). Thanks for your video and hope those roofers can learn from your video.
@skipdegraff6547
@skipdegraff6547 2 жыл бұрын
There isn't 1 commercial roof in Dallas Austin or San Antonio that would pass a dry in inspection from Florida. Not 1 People buy Texas and they have 0 realization that the codes just ain't there. I seen a 2 story house framed on 24 inch center studs.
@williamquintana8604
@williamquintana8604 Жыл бұрын
Those that don't understand this tip have a long way to go. The metal on the panel is angled down so it would scratch. Now the scrap metal can go straight in the lip. Awesome work thanks
@thomthomjose
@thomthomjose Жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video, its better not to learn by experience in this situation and learn from his short video.
@carlmcdaniel5681
@carlmcdaniel5681 4 ай бұрын
I worked for a company that put massive roofs on for schools and we did mostly standing seam. How TF did we not think of this lol great tip. For real
@chomper4x4
@chomper4x4 2 жыл бұрын
As a painter I would.probably use a piece of polyethelene not the roll stuff,a strip the thickness of a loose leaf binder or credit card. No metal, no scratch. Good video, ty.
@Glum1964
@Glum1964 2 жыл бұрын
Good cheat, thanks. As a remodeler who has to know many trades (somewhat), these tips from the specialists are a godsend!
@davidmercier7105
@davidmercier7105 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It's awesome to see a pro and learn New tricks.
@damienrodriguez3288
@damienrodriguez3288 10 ай бұрын
I’m a metal roof system installer of 21 yrs myself. I admire your precision. Not a lot of professional metal roofers out there anymore
@terryhill4732
@terryhill4732 Күн бұрын
A very neat and quality job
@fuffoon
@fuffoon 9 ай бұрын
In the long run, I learned not to give a darn how the roof looked. It looked great new. It's still watertight.
@cm01
@cm01 2 жыл бұрын
now you just have to not scratch the valley with the scrap piece
@benjaminziegler7437
@benjaminziegler7437 2 жыл бұрын
And it looks like he hasn't. Did you not catch the part where is indicates that the hem will more easily cause a scratch. The sacrificial piece isn't hemmed
@numbers5796
@numbers5796 Жыл бұрын
the sacrificial piece is straight edge so it won't scratch against a smooth surface, but a hemmed edge is angled away from zero so it automatically would scratch the surface of the underlayment in the valley
@rogrambo
@rogrambo Жыл бұрын
I have been installing every profile of 3 fastened panel all over the world for 35 years. Prior to that my dad and my grandfather did it since 1947, along with four uncles on Dad's side one uncle on Mom's side, a slew of cousins, and my brother worked with me for 20 years before becoming the pastor for first Baptist Church of Markham. My father helped AR Ginn start MBCI and helped Johnnie Schulte get his start with Mid West that eventually became nci, the biggest metal building manufacturer in the world. Although being a lifelong customer of theirs, I was employed there for 6 years writing the installation manuals for these panels, overseeing the UL, FM, and ASTM testing on them. Designed all of the weather tightness warranty details for waterproofing a roof. Inspected roofs performed by all of the top installers in the country to see if they were good enough or not for a weather tightness warranty. I have been called into court on six different occasions in cases that did not involve me just to serve as an expert witness on proper installation methods, panel capabilities etc. Served on the construction advisory board for maintenance and expansion for Dow chemical North America as the sheeting and weatherproofing expert. And now besides owning a company also serve as project manager on some large industrial sheeting projects such as space ex, NASA, Tesla, Chevron Philips, Exxon Mobil etc. I appreciate seeing a brother in the craft doing what appears to be good work from what I can see of it. He's got his cleats screwed properly, from what I can tell he has the sealant tape under them properly, (which it takes a trained eye to see it without being able to see it)😁. And this trick works. You don't even have to do it one sheet at a time. With a longer piece of trim, if you've got a very quick cut man, which for coming up symmetrical valleys he should be able to cut quicker than someone can install, you can knock out a lot of roof in a day. Something else that works really well, I can't tell what kind of underlayment he is using. There is a good chance it is WR Grace vicor ultra 2. Once you get this stuff stuck to itself, forget about it. Get another piece and start over. LOL. You can separate it with brake fluid, but I didn't say that. Anyway, you can cut a strip of it about 8 in wide, and double it over on the sticky side where you have a 4-in strip that is smooth on both sides. You can stick that under the cleat of your valley, go through and sheet your roof, and then just pull it out all at once. The only problem I have seen with this little trick he is doing, is Guy's getting hot or maybe having to cut the balance or something with that trim in their hand, that piece of trim will scratch the roof if presented with the wrong opportunity, grab some other materials will not. Now, anyone who knows what they are doing and has done many jobs it's getting some touch-up paint with their order. The man's work in this video is high quality. From what I can see that is. If what I see is representative of the rest of his job, if he gets a bad scratch in a panel or a piece of trim, it is taken care of right then so it does not accidentally get left later. So many people make the mistake I'm thinking they're going to come back and get things later that need to be taken care of to preserve project integrity, and as the job progresses you get caught up in its progression, and if you are not a good records keeper and reviewer, it can cause callbacks. Consider call backs the kryptonite to your advertising campaign. Call backs are the anti-advertising. Reputation and word of mouth is the best form of advertising there is. And you are wasting your time keeping accurate records and daily diaries if you are not going to be prudent and diligent about reviewing them regularly. You will find it as always a good idea to read the previous days entry before starting on that day's entry. I always like, and have always recommended to all of my foreman and superintendents that I have had in the field over the last three and a half decades (I started as a helper and worked my way up) is once a week usually Monday morning, give her the crew a few extra minutes to wake up by reading over the last week's journal with them real quick, and making sure everything in it has been addressed and that we are starting the week with a clean conscience and good feeling of integrity regarding a workmanship, and a goal that is high for the upcoming week. Just my two cents. Good video. Well done
@AmadPendergrass
@AmadPendergrass Ай бұрын
Great tip
@SFCISME
@SFCISME Жыл бұрын
Great tip bro. I hadn't thought of that
@electricalron
@electricalron Жыл бұрын
Kyle, brilliant!!
@natew48
@natew48 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is a true professional
@thomas8230
@thomas8230 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks!
@jerrydawg4434
@jerrydawg4434 2 жыл бұрын
Now that is good advice!
@Joe-oi6eh
@Joe-oi6eh Жыл бұрын
I owe you an educations worth of tuition brotha!!! Love from NH!!
@williamfade5540
@williamfade5540 2 жыл бұрын
I installed 5300 lineal ft on my building many hips and valleys I found it easier to once I folded the hem for the valley I ran a strip of duct tape to cover all the rough edges and it made it slide in very easy
@johnqueen2754
@johnqueen2754 2 жыл бұрын
Dude ,that's some damn good work.
@jacintobenitez6840
@jacintobenitez6840 Жыл бұрын
You the best Kyle
@BobbyBlack913
@BobbyBlack913 3 ай бұрын
Nice clean job....
@ashenmoonclash
@ashenmoonclash Жыл бұрын
That is some high quality work that will last for 50+ years no problem.
@BenzJaguar
@BenzJaguar Жыл бұрын
Excellent TIP 👌
@ozoneswiftak
@ozoneswiftak Жыл бұрын
Now all the dirt will eventually fill that really nice channel up. I'm thinking it should be on top with a clean water channel.
@DutchlandRoofingLLC
@DutchlandRoofingLLC Ай бұрын
Nice work
@woodshed_moments
@woodshed_moments Ай бұрын
Great tip for DIYrs, and Craigslist "contractors"
@DursunX
@DursunX 2 жыл бұрын
👌🏼 i hate 'crimped' sheets for this exact reason. great tip for life.
@OneManMining
@OneManMining 8 күн бұрын
Very nice. Its the little things
@russellfelsinger678
@russellfelsinger678 Жыл бұрын
Great advice
@adamkohne9778
@adamkohne9778 Жыл бұрын
I am installing my own standing seam metal roof and I have a valley that ends in the middle of my roof. Do you have any advice on how to finish it so it looks nice?
@NickyVEE89
@NickyVEE89 2 жыл бұрын
Good job bud.
@ethancook4969
@ethancook4969 Жыл бұрын
How do I find companies like yours to work for? My boss does quality work but it seems like the quality your company does is on a different planet.
@EarthPoweredHippie
@EarthPoweredHippie 2 жыл бұрын
God I LOVE doing metal roofs, barn style or standing seam
@thomascowper3658
@thomascowper3658 Жыл бұрын
Looks good! That's how we do it 👍
@denverscott37
@denverscott37 6 ай бұрын
Good tip 👍👍
@farmfitnesspham4913
@farmfitnesspham4913 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Kyle this is the best tip ever the first the only and the last thank Kyle
@RalphSampson...
@RalphSampson... 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, I'm calling you when I build my house......hopefully I live that long.
@wb3161
@wb3161 Жыл бұрын
Nice idea
@brianaguilar9782
@brianaguilar9782 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t hear “Check it out boys” so immediately kept scrolling😂
@emvillal007
@emvillal007 Жыл бұрын
This guy!....for real, Is he just starting to learn this job?????
@carcasscruncher9354
@carcasscruncher9354 2 жыл бұрын
Great tip bro
@trickynik12
@trickynik12 2 жыл бұрын
Looks very smart 👍
@benjaminromero569
@benjaminromero569 9 ай бұрын
Exelente idea muy limpio travajo
@alanfoster8444
@alanfoster8444 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work x
@foxwood67
@foxwood67 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we do same thing. Seen guys run blue tape also that works some
@manyvazquez3612
@manyvazquez3612 3 ай бұрын
Good idea
@JuniorG707
@JuniorG707 Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@davidblalock9945
@davidblalock9945 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, but how do you keep the sacrificial scrap from scratching up the metal it’s protecting?
@SirGatras
@SirGatras 2 жыл бұрын
Well you'll want to use a sacrificial piece that does not have any screws sticking through it, or cut edges that bend downwards, or mending plates glues to the bottom. Hope this helps.
@sapp6401
@sapp6401 2 жыл бұрын
Easy. The sacrificial scrap just needs a sacrificial scrap to tuck under it. Now before you ask… yes, that 2nd sacrificial scrap just needs a sacrificial scrap to tuck under it too.
@mexinica8455
@mexinica8455 2 жыл бұрын
@@sapp6401 wouldnt the sacrificial piece of the other sacrificial piece need a sacrificial piece of its own?
@Dracomillei
@Dracomillei 2 жыл бұрын
@@mexinica8455 you got it. It really is that simple
@PortgasDAce-qi3rv
@PortgasDAce-qi3rv 2 жыл бұрын
I mean. Use a thinner plastic cutting board. Works great
@RoofingFacts
@RoofingFacts Жыл бұрын
Yep, though we would use a piece of vinyl to prevent the sliding metal from scratching inside the groove
@rylin_west
@rylin_west Жыл бұрын
Can’t leave the plastic film on in Florida, but we make our own panels too so we are head of the game
@stephenhickey8062
@stephenhickey8062 4 ай бұрын
Brilliant
@ouimetco
@ouimetco 2 жыл бұрын
Good one
@mrcoiganable2988
@mrcoiganable2988 2 жыл бұрын
The sacrificial piece scrapped it numpty
@rikabernar
@rikabernar 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@G.Sharb1
@G.Sharb1 9 ай бұрын
Lmao when i first saw this I thought all the other pieces were scratched to hell, turns out it’s a protective film
@sdmfcfh1283
@sdmfcfh1283 Жыл бұрын
Gotta love engineering
@give-nofacts420
@give-nofacts420 2 жыл бұрын
Not using black for the panels helps tremendously
@rhondazappalewis3685
@rhondazappalewis3685 2 жыл бұрын
Good advice, but your way up there!!! That's high
@cornerstonecontractingserv5161
@cornerstonecontractingserv5161 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man
@5-8bobtherapper55
@5-8bobtherapper55 Жыл бұрын
These guys must use a professional supplier 😁
@Nguyenduc09
@Nguyenduc09 2 жыл бұрын
If only all builder/contractors were like this….
@gordonmcculloch4028
@gordonmcculloch4028 Ай бұрын
Quality mate put that touch up pot on the shelf in the van I’m still the best about though so calm down pal 😂
@909garrap
@909garrap 2 жыл бұрын
This guy knows his shit
@Erik-md6nd
@Erik-md6nd 2 жыл бұрын
That’s the correct way to install a roof
@graysquirreltreeservice7299
@graysquirreltreeservice7299 Жыл бұрын
Awesome
@tedsheldon11
@tedsheldon11 2 жыл бұрын
Hey...my manufacturer makes a valley with the hem as a part of the valley! Super clean!
@kevindowner766
@kevindowner766 2 жыл бұрын
The hem or the cleat?
@CamMccarthy-mz1bn
@CamMccarthy-mz1bn 22 күн бұрын
That's just a hem..you can't hook your sheet to a half inch hem lol not to mention where are you gonna screw down the valley if your hooking to it.
@juanvasquez2982
@juanvasquez2982 5 ай бұрын
Great work, what is the name of that type of metal
@danielsaur6714
@danielsaur6714 2 жыл бұрын
Curious how well metal roofing stands up to hail. We receive a lot of hail in Colorado.
@kevindowner766
@kevindowner766 2 жыл бұрын
24 guage metal with striations holds up really well.
@dojahmastah7156
@dojahmastah7156 2 жыл бұрын
Works!
@Bignasty645
@Bignasty645 2 жыл бұрын
That’s clean
@juanaviles3496
@juanaviles3496 6 ай бұрын
Nice work are you guys in the Iowa siouxcity area by any chance
@MrYandel85
@MrYandel85 4 ай бұрын
I always do that 👍
@mateoroofing2689
@mateoroofing2689 Жыл бұрын
Nice
@madroxs921
@madroxs921 Жыл бұрын
Tip peel the plastic as you go. One day in the sun and it doesn't co.e off
@ritchievalins5186
@ritchievalins5186 Жыл бұрын
Aww...hes got a scissorlift behind him...must be nice...lol.
@prophetanarchy2355
@prophetanarchy2355 2 жыл бұрын
Thats very tidy, I have no idea as to why we dont have this technology in Australia.
@sebastiantevel898
@sebastiantevel898 Жыл бұрын
Do not forget you need to keep that valley and the bottom of that scrap metal clean of dust and debris otherwise you are going to scratch the valley anyway when you pull it off.
@2brazy4ubitch
@2brazy4ubitch 2 жыл бұрын
Upgrade idea…. HDPE or nylon or PTFE as a shim material that more reliably won’t scratch on the way in or out.
@nathanzimmerman5846
@nathanzimmerman5846 6 ай бұрын
I may seem like a silly question. I have never installed any kind of roof like this, so I was just wondering if the valley pieces are pre-cut or does the contractor have to cut them and bend the ends to lock in to the cleats that holds them?
@victorc6871
@victorc6871 5 ай бұрын
Use liquid butyle on the juggle and a little up the seam
@majorjaygamer9892
@majorjaygamer9892 12 күн бұрын
That's how I do my work
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