Best Mini Lathe mod ever!! No more chatter!

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Brute4rce

Brute4rce

Ай бұрын

This is arguably the best modification you can make to any 7x14 mini lathe to increase the depth-of-cut, decrease tool chatter and improve dimensional tolerances and improve surface finishes!.
Before this modification, I was turning a max D.O.C of 0.030", which is okay for this caliber of lathe, but it was not without chatter, galling and loads of other surface imperfections.
Another huge benefit from this mod is the ability to easily do parting operations, especially in difficult to part materials like steel and titanium. It's such an easy modification, I don't know why it took me so long to do it!
Accessing those two socket head cap screws to rotate the cross slide is as easy as loosening and rotating the QCTP to 45 degrees to expose the mounting holes.
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@nerddub
@nerddub 16 күн бұрын
not sure why all the haters flocked to your video but good mod nicely done
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Haha yeah it is a little unusual, but hey I appreciate you taking the time to write something nice :)
@tates11
@tates11 15 күн бұрын
Gloves put me off, almost as much as adjustable wrenches. Something original would help.
@catranger01
@catranger01 15 күн бұрын
Why didn't you just tighten the gib?
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 15 күн бұрын
The gib was really wonky on the top slide. It was undersized and had a bow, and would bind when moving the slide. On top of all that, You can see in the beginning video that it was missing a grub screw. It was completely stripped out. And lastly, whoever drilled the grub screw holes, drilled them too high up, causing the gib to roll down and create a lot more friction and wear. All of this created a rocky top slide with little rigidity, and lots of broken carbide tools :(
@floridaoutdoors3739
@floridaoutdoors3739 11 күн бұрын
adjust the gib, and still have a working compound? I guess I get it if you just want to make parts...
@WillemFick
@WillemFick 16 күн бұрын
New #1 to my list of upgrades to mine!
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Awesome! Definitely well worth it👍
@scorpioo7350
@scorpioo7350 16 күн бұрын
I was also thinking about throwing away the swivel sled from my lathe, but I wonder why you installed this angle scale if you don't have this sled, probably just for decoration?
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
I installed it just in case I needed to mount a tool at a specific angle to the work.
@RustyInventions-wz6ir
@RustyInventions-wz6ir 15 күн бұрын
Just found your channel and subscribed. Very nice work.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 15 күн бұрын
Thank you! 😊
@Garethsshed
@Garethsshed 3 күн бұрын
Great job!
@McKildafor
@McKildafor 11 күн бұрын
Very nice upgrade. Good work. Just found your channel. Subscribed.🎉
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 11 күн бұрын
Glad you're here, thank you! :)
@nbprotocol5406
@nbprotocol5406 19 күн бұрын
If you do some repair to the compound slide you can get it to work just fine , I use mine for precision depth cuts.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 19 күн бұрын
For sure I will swap it out if need be, but I can hog soo much more material faster without it :)
@bitemykrank1970
@bitemykrank1970 23 сағат бұрын
This guy has more than a single philip's head screwdriver, 3 IKEA furniture Allen keys and a bent butter knife in his toolbox.....me thinks he might have some skills aswell.....
@machinist_matt
@machinist_matt 16 күн бұрын
Good job 👍
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Appreciate it, thanks!
@MichaelLarson-bf2bp
@MichaelLarson-bf2bp 3 күн бұрын
Really nice job.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 15 сағат бұрын
@@MichaelLarson-bf2bp Thank you!
@zoltanvitzli6788
@zoltanvitzli6788 5 күн бұрын
OMG!!! Is the cutting saw placed on the electrical cable? (1:26)
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 Ай бұрын
It's been wayy too long since I posted a video! I'm back and will post more content like this as well as new episodes of the 'Robotic Plow RC Tank Track Loader', all coming soon!
@jt9498
@jt9498 3 күн бұрын
Great mod!
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 3 күн бұрын
@@jt9498 thanks!
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 16 күн бұрын
subbed...pretty darn cool!!!
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@bradwiebelhaus7065
@bradwiebelhaus7065 16 күн бұрын
Good work.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@Mikhail_Zyablov
@Mikhail_Zyablov 10 күн бұрын
Ага, если убрать малую продольную, то с ней не будет проблем! )) Замечательное решение, гениально
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms 16 күн бұрын
Nicely done bud, if you dont use the compound, replacing it is a great way to increase machine rigidity
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 16 күн бұрын
Yes sir it is! Thanks for watching!
@courier11sec
@courier11sec 13 күн бұрын
This turned out beautifully! I think maybe it's just the camera angle, but it kind of looks like your tool is above center in the shots.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 13 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yea it definitely is the camera angle, it does look off center haha
@gregoryl.4872
@gregoryl.4872 5 күн бұрын
Thanks. I'm going to look at my 6x26 Logan and see how I can apply this mod. Always chatters on any cut over .010. Especially when I hit hard spots.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 5 күн бұрын
Awesome! Yeah it's amazing how a simple block of steel can make a lathe work like a lathe again 😄
@yeetsbeets9894
@yeetsbeets9894 9 күн бұрын
This was cool 😎
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 9 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sidneyreis1868
@sidneyreis1868 7 күн бұрын
Parabéns !
@bigbattenberg
@bigbattenberg 2 күн бұрын
Still a piece of junk but a great learning experience. I used to tinker with a Hobbymat back in the day.
@eugene4154
@eugene4154 2 күн бұрын
Nice vid fella I guess your machine is bolted down ??? Adding to stability but that was a big cut on a small machine
@davidjames1007
@davidjames1007 13 күн бұрын
All the negative comments by people who dont use a Sieg mini lathe. Good job, it definately improves that lathe, mine cannot remove that ammount of material.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 13 күн бұрын
Yep, exactly! These little lathes definitely have potential if you accept their out-of-box faults and change them. On this lathe I have upgraded to Nachi tapered bearings, all steel headstock gears, and now this tool mount. Also, mounting the lathe bed to something substantial helps to increase rigidity 👍
@Eluderatnight
@Eluderatnight 12 күн бұрын
Having a protractor that cannot feed at an angle is pointless. Switching to a tumb/toggle screw on gibs and locking when needed would be a better way. Beyond that scraping the ways true.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 12 күн бұрын
@@Eluderatnight I slapped that protractor on in case I need to mount a small part directly onto it to do some weird angle milling.
@Eluderatnight
@Eluderatnight 12 күн бұрын
@@Brute4rce1111 but you lost your 28 degree compound feed angle needed for threading....
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 12 күн бұрын
@@Eluderatnight I can still cut threads even though tool feed is at 90 degrees. I will just take slightly lighter cuts to prevent rip out.
@roadshowautosports
@roadshowautosports 5 күн бұрын
Thank you for the video. I just couldn’t grasp how you adjust the angle on the slide. Do you have to remove the qctp to access the two screws holding the slide? Sorry, apprentice here.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 5 күн бұрын
If I loosen the qctp top screw, I can then rotate the tool post at an angle that will enable me to access those two screws. It's nice because I don't have to remove the whole tool post in order to rotate it :)
@chipcity3016
@chipcity3016 14 күн бұрын
Great now you don't have any top slide. Using this set up show me how you turn a taper?
@reiniertl
@reiniertl 9 күн бұрын
He can still mount the top of the compound. May have to mod it a little. Most of the time you do not use the compound feature. Actually many top machinist in have a solid tool post because it offers the most rigidity and change to the compound if they need to cut a taper.
@robertraderjr6714
@robertraderjr6714 9 күн бұрын
tighten up the gibs you knuckle head! Or was that for dramatic effect? All good. Love the vid.
@gorak9000
@gorak9000 28 күн бұрын
With how loose that compound was initially, I think they forgot to put the gib in (or you loosened it way off for "illustration purposes" :) )
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 28 күн бұрын
It still had the gib in it, but I did loosen it to exaggerate the slop of it all 😄. I've had nothing but issues with it and it seems like a lot of other mini lathe owners have had similar issues too. On mine, one of the three gib adjustment screws was completely stripped out and the slide looked like it was slightly warped. This really exaggerated the slop it had. No matter how I adjusted the slide, it always felt either too tight or too loose.
@vicdreyer6413
@vicdreyer6413 19 күн бұрын
What is the point of installing the protractor?
@vicdreyer6413
@vicdreyer6413 19 күн бұрын
What is the point of installing the protractor?
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 19 күн бұрын
I installed it in case I needed to set a tool at a specific angle or if I needed to do something extra fancy. It also helps to ensure a dial indicator is perpendicular to the work. However, for the most part it just sits unused 😄
@debunker4874
@debunker4874 17 күн бұрын
You do know that every time you reduce the diameter that you are reducing the load on the tool, Don't you?
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 17 күн бұрын
Yes. I increased the rpm of the spindle with each new pass.
@debunker4874
@debunker4874 16 күн бұрын
@@Brute4rce1111 o.k. that is reassuring
@chipcity3016
@chipcity3016 14 күн бұрын
Remove the entite X axis, make it from one solid block of steel. Unbelievably rigid then.
@voodoochild1954
@voodoochild1954 19 күн бұрын
But you no longer have a compound slide.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 19 күн бұрын
I can still swap it on or off if I ever needed to cut tapers, but I rarely ever do stuff like that. I do general turning/ facing operations so for the type of work I do, this mod is perfect!
@nbprotocol5406
@nbprotocol5406 19 күн бұрын
Yeah that takes away functiionality, you can repair those and get them to work just fine.
@nerddub
@nerddub 16 күн бұрын
@@nbprotocol5406 solid toolpost mount is a very common mod for lathes, the compound is really only used for specific tasks, and 90% of what you do, especially on a bench lathe, can be done with a solid tool post.
@MrSulzerboy
@MrSulzerboy 9 күн бұрын
It's bad practice to hold an endmill in a drill chuck.
@Faiillia
@Faiillia Ай бұрын
Coooooo,l your parents must be proud!
@davidparker3346
@davidparker3346 15 күн бұрын
I can't believe all the rust and corrosion , I'm in Calif. and you don't see this.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 15 күн бұрын
A lot of the metal I have laying around is old stock and some scrap that I got from a junkyard. It also sits outside in the rain 😄
@davidparker3346
@davidparker3346 15 күн бұрын
@@Brute4rce1111 sorry for the comment it was supposed to be for another channel it was a car restoration channel.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 15 күн бұрын
@@davidparker3346 haha no worries
@gianlucatomasello9492
@gianlucatomasello9492 13 күн бұрын
@@davidparker3346lol how do you comment on the wrong video my boy
@davidparker3346
@davidparker3346 13 күн бұрын
@@gianlucatomasello9492 when the video ended I was typing my comment and KZfaq had advanced to another video as I sent my comment and I hadn't noticed that it did. that's how my boy.
@liljpw16
@liljpw16 13 күн бұрын
I hope you didn’t use steel to make that part. Steel rusts if you’re using cutting water. You should’ve used stainless steel.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 11 күн бұрын
Nah it's fine! The whole lathe is made of cast iron, so that could rust even more. Also, I don't use water based cutting fluid, only oil based. It gets all over the lathe when I brush it off. So far no rust 😀
@mcgam2000
@mcgam2000 2 күн бұрын
Why do you loosen the gibs and then act like it is loose!!!
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 2 күн бұрын
@@mcgam2000 To exaggerate the slop for viewers. Ultimately, the slide was in bad shape and the gib would bind when I tried to adjust it properly. The gib holes were drilled too high, causing the gib to roll and bind up instead of closing the gap. I could still use it, but without adjustable fine feeding of the handle. I would just set the desired cut angle, cinch down the gib screws tight and start my cut. Definitely not an efficient way of turning!
@mervynprice7009
@mervynprice7009 8 күн бұрын
Why is it that you people always take bigger cuts to prove that you have improved your lathe. The proof of improving your lathe is in the finish & ease of working. Deeper cuts just reduces the working life of your bearings & everything else by increasing the rate of wear. If you really want to improve your mini lathe, then you should have been adding to the number of gib screws. Adding stops to prevent the cross slide from moving whilst you are tacking an end cut & to the cross slide to prevent side movement during longer cuts.
@Brute4rce1111
@Brute4rce1111 8 күн бұрын
It's to show that overall rigidity has been improved. I no longer have chatter on heavier cuts, thus saving expensive carbide that would have chipped. It also speeds up my workflow if I have to turn down a part since I can "hog" out more material in a shorter timeframe. Regarding the spindle bearing wear, it's no problem because I have upgraded the headstock with large tapered roller bearings that have a dynamic load of over 9000 lbs.
@paulconrod4504
@paulconrod4504 13 күн бұрын
NEVER use a vernier Caliper to scribe lines!!!!!! It is for measuring only,
@ramentaryramblings
@ramentaryramblings 17 күн бұрын
0:08 oh boy someone didn't adjust the gibs. let's hope this isn't the shit show I think it is.
@johnhall8455
@johnhall8455 11 күн бұрын
No need for childish negative comments
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