Wahoo Kickr Snap 2

Neo 2T. outstanding performance, power and cadence accuracy, rapid power response within 2-3 seconds, which is amazingly useful in Crit racing in Zwift. instant connection to the computer or cell phone through Bluetooth, and have tried Garmin and Wahoo HR monitors with it. has never dropped a signal on zwift or lost the connection with my HR monitors. very accurate cadence data, which I think is because it has magnetic technology and doesn't show slippage on steep climbs like flywheel technology. It has the road feel option but I don't use it so I have turned it off. You never have to calibrate it because of its magnetic technology. I highly recommend it. I used to have Wahoo Kickr, which after using Neo 2T I will never switch to Wahoo again.

Kickr V5. Buy once cry once. Runs like a top and I have always found Wahoo customer service to be outstanding and easy to deal with.

Wattbike Atom

Considering t3 3rd gen magene

Me too, 40K km in 2 years cca. , perfect trainer ;-)

Really useful indeed

Comment 1: That's a great review of the Kickr Core! I recently discovered a new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike and it seems to have some outstanding features too. It offers dual modes for indoor and outdoor use, and one of the most impressive features is that it can be charged while in indoor mode! It also has a powerful motor, reliable performance, and even an IPX5 waterproof finish. It's definitely worth checking out if you're looking for a versatile and innovative e-bike. Keep up the great content!Comment 2: Thanks for sharing your experience with the Kickr Core! It's always helpful to hear positive reviews. Speaking of great products, have you heard about the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike? I stumbled upon it recently and it seems to offer some incredible features. The ability to charge the bike in indoor mode is truly remarkable and convenient. Plus, with its powerful motor, suspension, and puncture-resistant tires, it's designed to conquer any terrain. I think it's worth looking into if you're in the market for a versatile e-bike. Keep up the good work on your videos!

I found a new project that you might be interested in! Have you heard about the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike? It offers dual modes for indoor and outdoor use, and the most outstanding feature is its ability to charge when you're in indoor mode! The brushless 750W motor provides impressive speed and power, while the suspension and puncture-resistant tires ensure a smooth ride in any condition. And with its Smart Saddle Detection+ feature, you can effortlessly achieve your fitness goals. Plus, the eBike allows you to recycle energy generated during indoor rides to cover CO2-free miles outside. It's an eco-friendly and versatile option!

Hey there! I just came across a new project that might interest you. Have you heard about the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike? It seems to offer a unique blend of fitness and technology. The outstanding features include the ability to charge the bike during indoor mode and the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature, which provides valuable performance insights and keeps you motivated. Plus, with its ability to convert the calories you burn during indoor rides into CO2-free miles for outdoor rides, it's designed with sustainability in mind. Definitely worth considering if you're looking for an e-bike that offers a versatile riding experience!

Hey there! I stumbled upon an exciting new project called the freebeat Morph 2-in-1 eBike. It sounds like a game-changer, combining indoor fitness and outdoor exploration like never before. One of its standout features is the ability to charge in indoor mode! I'm really impressed by the Morph eBike's brushless 750W motor, delivering an impressive 80Nm torque and reaching speeds of up to 20mph. With its Smart Saddle Detection+ feature, you can effortlessly track your performance and stay motivated during indoor and outdoor rides. And the best part is that it allows you to make a positive impact on the environment by converting your calories burned into CO2-free miles for outdoor adventures. Super cool, right? Can't wait to try it out!

I agree with you, my original Kickr 15 died and I switch to a Suito. Thinking about trying the Direto XR with the Rizer when it comes out. Also takes about 20 min of warm up for the Suito to get accurate.

In the end, I bought the Kick Core. I'm surprised by the silence! The most prominent sound is from the chain, as I have to fine tune it. I terms of responsiveness and power, I'm really happy with it... But It's my first trainer ever, I don't know how to compare it. 😉

Still happy with it? Looking into that one as well. First trainer for me too so I’m trying to do all the research I can

@@mojuy11 Yes, very happy! No problems so far, it's responsive with Zwift, good power and silence. Probably the best price/quality choice.

@@gamaro74 thanks! Just ordered it and really excited to have a go at it

@@mojuy11 Good luck and enjoy it!

Is the Saris H3 compatible with the Elite Rizer and is the connection responsive enough when not using an Elite trainer? Couldn’t find info anywhere!! Thx

How are you enjoying it so far? I thinking about getting one also...

Nice tip.

How long would a waxed chain last if only ridden on a trainer?

@@bricesechrist6438 I have two chains that I swap every month. I usually ride 6-8 hours per week on Zwift or outside. Molten Speed Wax says 350 miles or 200 to double chain life. I could probably stand to do it in quicker intervals.

{{3}} Sounds interesting! I've been looking for a versatile e-bike that I can use both indoors and outdoors. The freebeat Morph 2-in-1 e-Bike seems like a game-changer, especially with its indoor recharge feature. The brushless motor, impressive torque, and top speed of 20mph are definitely appealing. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires also ensure a smooth ride in any condition. And let's not forget about the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature that helps with fitness goals. Overall, it seems like the Morph e-bike offers a perfect blend of fitness and technology. Can't wait to learn more about this innovative e-bike project!

I was thinking the same thing but I really don’t want to be behind physically come spring. Thinking of buying one now to be in shape and take advantage of a full cycling season.

Hi Jan, we tested the Suito, but Elite was only able to supple a Suito-T for the video shoot due to stock shortages. Thanks for watching!

My suito came with a SunRace cassette. I didn’t think they came with 105, would drive the cost up.

Thanks, I was thinking of getting the H3. I'm guessing the 9kg flywheel has to do with the slow acceleration.

Can you please elaborate on this please

Unfortunately they are not very reliable. I had 6 in 18 months. Now on the flux 2. This is now playing up.

@@markstone722 i was thinking of getting a flux 2. What kind of issues are you facing with it? Would you recommend I rather go with kickr core or elite instead?

@@xyzxyz7947 they get noisy and start to squeak as well. Anything above 80 watts. Also they are not very accurate. Sometimes out by 100 watts.

@@markstone722 oh 80W is nothing. So doesn't look like a good buy at that price point.

@@markstone722 thank you very much for the help

Hi Trevor, our tester found the Suito matched Garmin Vector 3 pedals well, in terms of power accuracy. You can read the full review here; www.bikeradar.com/reviews/training/indoor-trainers/resistance-trainer/elite-suito-review/

The resistance while drafting doesn’t change. When drafting, your speed increases for the same given power input (simulating what happens when the resistance lowers), so you can pedal with less power and keep the same speed when drafting.

Plus: after a while you wont remember the price, but will still thinking about the better alternative. Saris h3 is best of both worlds i think

Hi Da Mu, I'm afraid BikeRadar kit is not for sale, but you can unlock it in Zwift for free; www.bikeradar.com/news/ride-in-bikeradar-kit-on-zwift/

Exactly, durability and customer service are factors to consider. Tacx used to be good, now it is Garmin with Garmin service.

Pretty much every trainer has some horror stories, I have a suito for almost a year now and its still great no weird noises.

Hi Robert, Simon here - I've been using an Elite Direto XR for over a year now and haven't had any issues, so I'd say its long-term durability is absolutely fine. That said, I also know friends with Kickr Core's who have had similar experiences, so there's probably not much in it. Thanks for watching!

I'm on my second Wahoo trainer. I upgraded from a Wahoo Snap to a Kickr. They make great products. My son now has the Snap and it's still going strong.

Wahoo is the no brainer

Here I have also a Volt. I’m happy and good price.

Would you prefer the volt to the kickr core? I'm getting volt at a significantly lower price and it seems to have the same functionality.

@@xyzxyz7947 The Volt is truly whisper quiet, it's stable (feet arms fixed like the core), very easy to setup, all you need is in the box, and connections to it have been rock solid. Yes, you're also not paying the "I've got a Kickr Core" price. Power numbers are accurate, elevation changes are quick, ride feel is good. Only downside is the Android App, but I only ever use it to do firmware updates and spin calibs. Random plus, it makes to the shade the colour of my Ribble custom paint job.... ;)

@@saintuk70 Thanks for the detailed response man. I agree that the price premium for the core might largely come from the brand aspect. I'm buying this in India where this market is new and there's not much clarity on which company offers the best after sales service. Thanks for your help :)

@@xyzxyz7947 Jetblack is an Australian company, doesn't put me off here in the UK

Lol your shop is full of shit. The Kickr comes with Thru axle adapters. Source I have two Kickr 5's.

Hi - did you find a compatible trainer? Have the same bike and shopping around for a direct drive trainer atm. Also need to buy a 12 speed cassette so the trainers that come with cassettes don't make much difference to me

Do you mean the cassette that comes with the Suito? The video says it comes with 105 but mine came with a Sunrace cassette, and it was horrible!! I swapped for an Ultegra cassette and it’s pretty good. Ultegra cassettes are the best IMO when you factor in cost. I’m sure the Red AXS cassette is amazing but they cost almost as much as the trainer! haha. Clean drive and wet lube is my go to. Oh and turn the music up.

It scored 4/5 when we reviewed one a while back www.bikeradar.com/reviews/training/indoor-trainers/resistance-trainer/wahoo-kickr-snap-review/

no this really isnt at GP Lamas quality is it?

@@chrisbayliss3532 It takes me 25mins to dive into the details of just one trainer. 10 trainers in one video is a solid effort. It'd be longer than the Lord of the (chain) Rings trilogy if I did 10 in one video.

@@gplama 😂😂😂 very true Shane mind u we’d all still watch it!

The Wahoo cassette will not work for everyone. For many it does add to the price of the Neo not having one - but it also pushes you to get the exact same cassette as when you are outdoors. My biggest problem was that its so hard to even buy a cassette today.

Hey Ian, this test focussed on smart trainers. You can see our test of indoor bikes here: www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/indoor-bikes/

I sold my Wattbike to get the Neo T2. Best swap ever for me.

​@@Ah_Lee_Sunhow you geeting on with the Neo bike?

Hi did you find one in the end? Have the same issue ...

@@iluvarun Yes. The 2021 Tacx Flux S (the one after Garmin took over Tacx) comes with Thru axle adapters that fit the TCR.

@@Clashing0N thanks very much.!!

Not all require external power, e.g. the Neo, as mentioned.

I have one and clocked a few thousand miles on it with no troubles and resistance is extremely smooth, gradual and no discernible spikes . Maybe you had a dud ?

Do you have a wahoo bike computer? There seems to be an issue between wahoo and elite... you pay to use zwift. Or you pay to use elite software. Choose... i think its not that weird.

Hello Eddy do you have the Tacx Flux 2, whatbis your opinion?

@@ChamucoDS hi, yes I do. Garminin has just taken over the company, so looking forward to future software updates. I'm really enjoying the Tacx Flux 2, the only issue I found is that it needs to be calibrated on the Tacx app prior to each ride to get an accurate simulation. It's just about logging onto the app then pedaling for 10 seconds and you're done. If that's not an issue for you then considering the price and functionality I'd highly recommend it👌🏼

Comment 1:Hey there! As a fellow male ebike user, I stumbled upon freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 eBike as well, and it truly is an exciting project. The indoor recharge feature is definitely a game-changer, and the brushless 750W motor with 80Nm torque promises an exhilarating riding experience. The 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires give me the confidence to conquer any terrain. And the Smart Saddle Detection+ feature keeps me motivated during both indoor and outdoor rides. I appreciate freebeat's innovative approach, and I'm truly interested in learning more about this crowdfunding project. Keep up the great work, freebeat!Comment 2:Hi there! I'm also a male ebike user, and I found freebeat's Morph 2-in-1 eBike to be a fascinating project. The indoor recharge feature is a real game-changer, and the brushless 750W motor with 80Nm torque promises a powerful and exhilarating riding experience. With the 80mm front suspension and puncture-resistant fat tires, I feel confident taking on any terrain. The Smart Saddle Detection+ feature is a great addition, providing valuable performance insights and keeping me motivated on my rides. Kudos to freebeat for taking such an innovative approach! I'm genuinely interested in learning more about this crowdfunding project. Keep up the fantastic work!

When we shot this video Zwift hadn't made a trainer but we have since featured them on the channel. There will likely be a big smart trainer test again in 2024 so keep a look out for that

Anything reviewed that didn't get 4 stars wasn't part of the grouptest. Can't be "Best Smart Trainers" if we included the bad ones...