Expert raw are not real raw files, they are pre processed and oversharpened as you noticed, real raw is in Pro Mode of the stock app.

I've used both but I'm enjoying the overall camera system on the S23Ultra. The zoom is what really wins me over. Watching my kids play soccer, track, and basketball..the zoom comes in clutch! 4k at 10x optical zoom is unmatched! Also I love all the other options, really liking the 50mp mode, seems to be the best of both worlds.

Really informative and entertaining!!! Kudos guys!!

Wow, great vid! The way you both interact is on a new level: fun & information, I’m lovin’ it 😊

I'd like to see the iPhone's 48mp camera paired up with telephoto lenses. Are there any good systems out there? Fore instance I know that moment might be an option, but are they any good? Maybe there is a better option. I don't know. I'd like to see a video about this.

This was a fun video to watch! I was reminded of the Autel Nano+ 48 MP option that doesn't really look that great. Better to use the standard resolution. Digital trickery isn't always the best but it is getting better. With AI becoming so prevalent, the next model should be really interesting. Imagine having Topaz built in to sharpen blurry photos or just tack sharpen sharp photos.

Just what I was looking for. Thanks!

This channel is a gem! I’m glad to get this video recommended! Also love those cool and funny conversations! Kudos to you Tony and Chelsea!

This is why I love your videos also about smartphones: The photographer perspective and not the usual Tech KZfaqr perspective. I'm a photography and tech geek and use the 14 pro, but sold my S22 Ultra and I also like the Pixel 7 Pro I've used for 6 months. I like these phones for different reasons. In the end I have the most fun with my Xperia 5 IV as daily driver and to take photos (with a real shutter button *love it*) and making videos on it. The processing is so much more natural and I have all the controls in my hand and even in the "BASIC" mode, you can still point & shoot if needed in a hurry and the post-processing is doing it with less magic compared to the Samsung/Apple/Google devices, but they catching up with every generation but still keeping it more natural look. On the Pixel, iPhone and the S22/23 ultra it is boring over time. Just press the shutter button on those devices and the post-processing is doing the magic...and many times with overprocessing and too social media oriented. Not bad in certain situations, but like I said: BORING :) Keep your great work and your amazing chemistry :)

They now have Mag style cases for the S23 Ultra FYI. Great comparison and very informative!

Hi what microphones are you using? Thanks for the review!

You guys are great! Thanks for the video!

With 4x4 pixel binning, it's not clear how much value you'd get out of the Samsung 200-megapixel raw file. In my tests I saw no real resolution improvement over 50MP shots. Samsung uses AI to interpolate the RGB color values for each pixel in those 16-pixel patches, so there's a lot of processing even before the demosaicing and oversharpening and oversaturation. But yes, I still wish I could pixel peep all the way at the 200MP raw files. I also agree about the overprocessed Samsung raw. One big difference for me: Apple lets you take raw photos with all its cameras, not just the main, wide-angle camera. The telephoto cameras on the S23U would be better if you weren't locked to HEIC/JPEG formats.

I use the Google pixel 6a. Basic but does the job. For photography it is not the picture quality but the editing which makes it a good camera phone and for the price it is a fantastic phone. I normally shoot on Fuji, Sony and Ricoh

This was well-made and fun. I know it's off-topic, but I gotta say, those drone shots were so cool!👏

Nice job both of you. Like the competition. Enjoyed very much.

The expert raw app always processes the images. If you want real raw you have to use the baked in pro mode in the normal camera app on the S23 Ultra. Also maybe you have to change the camera settings to activate raw files im pro mode. ( at least that is the case on other Samsung Phones ) Did you use the expert raw app for the raw images, or did you use the camera app ?

Have not watched you guys in 7 years since I closed my studio. Other than looking much older Tony :) it’s great to see your channel has grown to the size it has and you’re still going strong.

This was a fun one guys. Love your content and I've been a HUGE fan for a while now. Keep up the great content coming. Love from Austin, Texas!!!

I loved the banter. Great video Tony and Chelsea! Would be interesting to see a comparison with the Leica Leitz Phone 2.

I have the Samsung S23 Ultra, and well the camera I find is awesome...great to see the improvements where it counts...this phone is noticeably faster than even the S22 Ultra. This being said I also have a fujifilmX-T2; hopefully soon to upgrade, so when I want to take some more controllable shots that is what I use. I do get a good amount of use from the telephoto lens on this phone and it really should be an option on flagship phones. There are times when the full 200 MP option is nice, Id say try taking a picture in a studio setup with all equipment and review to see if there is really a difference, someone below mentioned that this sharpening is only baked into the expert raw app. Maybe follow his suggestion of using the basic camera raw setting. Last thing to consider is, as this is a new sensor on a new phone there will be tweaking and fixes in upcoming updates. Iphone had the same issues when they firstly introduced the 48MP sensor. All in all I have this phone, my wife has the Iphone 14 pro and we get similar results when taking pics anytime, there are colour differences of course but they are down to personal preferences. Airdrop is nice to have, but honestly there are other ways to send people a pic or video wirelessly on any platform. I like to just connect my phone to my computer; Mac or PC via cable and have just full access to the phone memory.

Not into apple and their monopoly. Just upgraded from a note 20 ultra 5g to the s23 ultra and I am super pleased with it. Would love to see a review from you comparing the cameras on Pixel 7 pro and S23 Ultra

What MagSafe field monitor attachment are you using? Seems like a great idea

This is great. Thanks TC Would be great if you compare the One Plus 11 and Google Pixel 7 Pro as well vs these findings.

The video stabilization is equally amazing in both cameras in my opinion, and the macro of the Samsung was sharper and more appealing to my eye, including the shadow in that image, in contrast to your assessment. (A few days ago, I ordered the S23 Ultra. I currently own the S21 Ultra. I am, in particular, looking forward to the 10x optical zoom.)

Great video. Thanks

I'm curious about which DJI gimbal that is and the mag adapter and what other components you all are using to make the iphone into an external monitor for the Sony camera... :)

Love this, so informative and I probably laughed more than I should have. I've always been an android user, currently still using my S21 ultra. Hoping for the S23 soon! I used to love LGs phones for photos, but they took a step back.

Here is the problem. The latest camera update Ruined the 200MP mode. Before there was no sharpening. Everyone is complaining about it. Techyonion showed the before and after. Samsung need to put back the old camera processing for 200MP. It would be par with the Sony.

This was great thankyou

If you take the photo on the Samsung using Adobe Lightroom Camera/Pro saving in DNG and then transfer the pic via Adobe Cloud to Lightroom on a PC and then turn Sharpening and Noise Reduction to Zero do you have a true RAW image? Lightroom sees the image as DNG, but is that really unprocessed RAW? I have tried it [Galaxy S10] and the result seems to be a bit [tolerable] noisy but otherwise doesn’t look over processed.

I have the iPhone 14 Pro, and I'm curious how it compares to an old DSLR, say the Canon 5D with 24-70mm lens? Have modern sensors and computational photography in the iPhone 14 Pro allowed it to surpass old DSLRs? It's definitely much easier to take a smartphone hiking and out and about compared to a DSLR. Totally apples to oranges comparison, but it's something I've wondered about.

I have a S22 Ultra and I would love the Apple ecosystem and how easy it is to interact with other users but I don't want to be completely locked into it either. The Airtag has a much bigger user base in case it gets lost compared to the Galaxy Smart Tag for instance, but I do like that you can press the button on the Smart Tag to ring your phone. If I lived in a big city in the US, I feel like owning an iPhone would make your life a lot easier considering how many people use them around here.

Have you tried taking raw files using Adobe LightRoom camera? Can the LightRoom's camera app remove the built-in preprocessing?

At about 5 mins in when you were talking about going into the settings to even get the option to enable raw shooting on the iphone is true. But there is an additional option (for pretty much any camera setting in fact) to not reset those options everytime you close the app. Just wanted to clarify that for those wondering

I'm REALLY loving my Pixel 7 Pro, but I really wish it had an option to use manual controls. For the most part the AI does a good job, but there are times where I wish I could manually dial in my focus.

Really appreciate the candid opinions. It's so hard nowadays to find reliable in-depth info on many topics. I'm looking forward to the Pixel 8 Pro. If they can give it at least a 10x optical zoom, better video quality and maybe have sensors that don't require as much post-processing, then that system will be all I need as an amateur photographer.

Vivo X90 has a 1 inch sensor. I would be curious how it performs next to these in the "post processing" debate. Better yet, how the RAW files hold up at higher ISOs.

Such a fun review and comparison!

I'm a teacher. You can't imagine the joy of the pupils zooming in on their silly faces with the S23U 200mp class photo. It's a whole different level and the kids loved it.

this comparison was a lot more fun to watch than your usual tech channels :)

How about audio quality when shooting video? Many say it is more important than the video.

I love you guys! Another fun video.

Apple has Air Drop which is proprietary, BUT Samsung has the new Quick Share which simply creates a link that ANYONE can use to download any size files on any device with a simple click. Suck it Apple!

I agree about being locked into Apple's system and not getting to choose your camera! Are there any third party camera apps in the app store that maybe work better than the default one? Maybe something that gives you raw, manual control, less processing, etc.? I'm not an iphone user so I'd be interested to know.

Excellent! Love the insights and perspective. And the drama is great too😂

I really enjoyed this comparison .. btw you guys got alot of good chemistry 😊❤

Awesome video! You guys are the right mix of entertainment and education.

I always enjoy your reviews and listen carefully to your criticisms on products. That said, my phone’s camera is my second option for photo taking. If it’s not perfectly in focus, all details spot on, I don’t care. I’ll edit and get them to where I need them. Until Apple or other carriers start making honest to God fantastic cameras, we’ll be reviewing and comparing until the end of time.

Time to upgrade from the S20U to the new 23 ultra, thank you for the insight. I also use iPhone which I prefer for video.

I have a question , if i shoot in raw all the time on the iphone 14 pro max , sometimes i see 95 mb in the pic information , on a recent static pic on a cloudy but glare day of my trike on a bike path , it shows the image information as a 116 mb image , how does that work coming from a 48 mp sensor ?

BEST episode ever, thank you Chelsea & Tony! :)

I have both phones and I take the same photos with the phones every time I take photos and sometimes the iPhone photos is great and sometimes the photos is unusable, same thing goes for the s23 ultra but the s23 ultra is a little bit more flexible.

I am using Xperia 1iv .... although Dxomark recently ranked it bad but I am so pleased with the photo that it's taking. So natural and so pleasing. I wanted to take the iPhone 14 Pro max but while it was in my hand I have switched with Xperia. Why? Check with other video or Dpreview sensor compare, iPhone has something bleach bypass thing going on with their color. If you take a photo of the sea or any true colored subject, you will see iPhone will change it to something else where Xperia does not.

My biggest issue was some of my video files were not able to copy to my PC. It kept giving me device not respond error. I'm still using the old Note 10+ for my KZfaq videos and love how it act as an external drive when plugged in making it so much easy for me to copy my videos to pc and put them together for my videos.

200 megapixels or even 48 megapixels on a tiny sensor and displayed on at most an 8 megapixel screen. How does that make sense?

I have a iPhone 13 pro and its fine for quick captures if I don't happen to have my Sony A7R3 on me. But honestly if the only place you VIEW your photos is on the phone it wont matter, then it just becomes ease of use and access. iOS is still easier for my family to use and share photos, and that's all that matters is actually seeing the photos you care to see.

Great video! I think it would be really interesting to see, how these two compare with the Xiaomi 13 Pro with the Leica lenses.

Guess I'll be sticking with my Pixel 7 Pro. Love the zoom on the S23 though. Thanks for doing this video. Have you had a chance to look at the Xiaomi 13 Pro?

I really love your chemistry and that funny banter of yours. Learning a lot from your videos. Cheers.

Test these phones against Xiaomi 13 pro(1 inch sensor)

Great information. Was about to upgrade from the Note 10+ to the S23 Ultra but think I will squeeze out one more year with the Note 10+ and go with the S24 Ultra. The iPhone is a great phone but too limiting for my liking.

we use nearby share on android. I also use onedrive so my photos are already on my computer when i get home. I also add specific folders to lightrooom on my phone or tablet and its in lightroom on my computer when i get home as well.

Mag safe cases are available for Samsung. Quick share will let you send a link to Apple user to download full images/ video. Quick/nearby share is Samsung/ androids version of air drop respectively.

I love my S23 Ultra, best overall phone and camera, and fits in my ecosystem with my galaxy watch 5, galaxy buds pro, and galaxy tab s7 plus. And I can easily quick share any files back and forth to my tab or pc. The S23 Ultra has so many features I wouldn't get on apple phone

Great comparison. I have both the iPhone 14 Pro and S23 Ultra. I primarily use the Ultra because it really does feel like the best phone camera ever, but yes, it oversharpens, but they may fix that in a future update.

I wanted the samsung 23 ultra but if all the processing is baked into the images it seems to be a deal breaker. Thoughts? I read the samsung 23 does not process as much. I really just need a samsung cellphone with great images and decent video with smooth flow. It doesn't have to be the latest model. Any suggestions?

Good job guy’s like button smashed 👍

Love my Ultra 23 🔥🔥🔥

I bought a magsafe compatible case for my Samsung S23 Ultra and it works great. I use it with my magsafe car mount with wireless charging.

How does the pixel pro perform in relation to those two?

Haha, love the banter in this video. Also a great comparison of the two cameras

Wonderfully unbiased... yes my nose is growing a Mach 3! I have an S23 Ultra, I've had two previous Note's 3 & 9, and the Galacy S Captiva r e back in 2010. In not in the crApple "sheeple" ecosystem and never will be. I like choice and options and not being overtly dictated to by an IT overboard that demands fealty.

I have the iPhone 14 Pro. I like it but as someone who is in the Apple ecosystem with a M1 MacBook Pro and Apple Watch etc. I'm not going to defend the iPhone and say it's better than the S23 Ultra. From what I've seen I think the s23 Ultra is better on some levels but I never bought into the 200mp part - that's a marketing ploy IMO. My main camera is the Canon R5 - if I want to take "serious" shots I'll use that, especially when it comes to telephoto but to be fair I'm well impressed with the iPhone for normal everyday stuff. If I was given a choice of either the iPhone or a Samsung, I still think I would go for the iPhone .

I missed you guys havent seen a video in a long time since I was using my old Nikon D3300 ... now I've got an iPhone 14 Pro Max and decided to look and educate myself by watching you quality videos !

I enjoyed this comparison WAY more than I enjoyed either one of these phones (neither of which I would recommend). Fun, detailed, and informative, as always.

Expert raw and normal raw are completely different things!!

Man, she is biased like a diode and there is nothing he can do about it. 😂

Xiaomi 12S Ultra , it comes with a Leica camera and an 1" sensor . I can't get it in Canada . I wonder if it is being sold in United States .

The double tap power button to camera on the galaxy you can be in any app and it will bring up the camera , that is a handy camera feature.

Had both and returned the s23 ultra. I felt the s23 ultra is by FAR a better standalone device overall but like you stated, ecosystem. As far as cameras, I felt the s23 ultra to be more versatile and fun to shoot with and the IPhone was more consistent in the results. The shutter “lag” on the s23 ultra also posed a problem with moving subjects, creating soft and sometimes blurry results. Camera is really important to me and with the consistent and more reliable results, I chose iPhone. I REALLY wish the iPhone had 10x optical!

I've done both comparisons on Galaxy s23 ultra and iPhone 14 pro max for video and photos. The Galaxy S23 ultra wins on both.

Can we edit videos shot on the 14 Pro on Premiere pro software on a MacBook Pro laptop ..plssss tell me

Hi lovely people, another great review, thanks. I have original Sony a6000 and a7r and never was able to use wireless connection to smartphone and computer. I have an (also old like me) iPhone 6 and that doesn't help. The Sony smartphone claims to integrate well although not with my cameras. Is the Experia experience worth moving to from Apple? I'd love to know your thoughts.

iPhone lovers never accept Samsung is better 👎🏽

Wow that's awesome thanks

How do you use your iPhone as a field monitor?

I love those B&W photos in the background. B&W fine art photos rock.

Just wanted to know, did you took all this shots with scene optimizer off? Because from what I heard if you turn that off the over processing gets toned done and the shots come towards more natural side.

Very nice video, which prompted me to get both devices. Could you do a comparison video of the most recent Google Pixel 8 Pro to these two awesome devices? And please keep the awesome content and friendly competitions coming.

Pixel 7 user here. IMO, both snappers did a nice to good enough job in most categories. I've been carrying both a Pixel and an iPhone since 2019, so I may not have a fair point of reference, but there probably are no bad smartphone cameras under, say $400 on the modern domestic smartphone market.

Cool Transition👍

We’re did u get the iPhone stand at the end of the video 14:31

Thanks for your videos and like very much this last one. Expect from you a test with the new Xiaomi 13 pro with Leica lenses and all of them shooting at 50 M pixels..

But why does the sky blink in the iphone stabilised footage?

What is the better compromiss: If your photo is too dark or too bright? What is better to correct later with the RAW file? (sorry when the english terms are not correct, but I think you know what I mean)

Great test, but screw phones - I was amazed how you two guys are soooo adorable :) So much love in the air. I'm definitely subscribing & watching more often.

ExpertRAW is more like a more flexible Auto mode. Pro mode allows you to take true RAW bayer snaps that not only are truer to what the sensor is capturing initially but also more flexible. I much prefer it to both ProRAW and ExpertRAW. It would be nice if you could compare those.

Best phone for portraits? I currently have a iPhone 12 pro Max and I find the focal length distorts people. On my big camera I prefer shooting above 50mm with 85mm being my favourite focal length.

Im a photographer and I always watch your gear reviews. As soon as I saw that you have also compared the camera capabilities of these two smartphones, other s23u/14pm camera comparisons dont matter much anymore. In terms of photography and camera reviews, you are one of the GOAT. 💙