I think the outsole thickness is also excluded. It is just midsole for ASICS.

Claiming 41/33 on running warehouse. Maybe they decided to throw in the insole and outsole.

Which one has the widest toe box? How is the fit?

@@slavasss2189 The widest toe box of my 2023 lineup is the Nimbus 25. The Deviate Nitro 2 and Saucony Speed 2 are more narrow and hug my foot. - Of the 3 reviewed in this video - IMO the Saucony Speed 3 is the widest toe box

@@ray-raym6551 so you mean Novablast is narower than Speed 3??? i am surprised, lol

@@slavasss2189 Yes, i believe the reason my foot feels that way is because the upper of the Novablast is heavier than the speed 3. The speed 3 has more breathability which i factor into the "Width feel"

Exactly!! Foam compression is what it comes down to!!

Thanks so much Josh!

Spot on!!

Hi cristianfcao, totally agree with you. I have the NB3 TR, got the TR ver coz i wanna maxmize the mileage out of the asics and the TR ver has got at least double the outsole thickness from what i compared in the stores. Also seems to have improved a little on the wet traction over the original as well from what i have read, probably due to the lugs. I have ran on wet outdoor tiles cornering in the NB3 TR at relatively high speeds (like 10-12 kmh tight 3 metre radius corners), no issue. Some folks in other comment sections mentioned wet manholes and drain covers, I mean come on even the super good Puma Grip outsole would slip, don't even mention about NB3. I also have the deviate nitro 2, love the yellow/slight orange at the rear colourway! The speed 3 is way too costly over here in physical stores, not helped with the higher base price and relatively little discounts. My wife just got the deviate nitro 2 at a little over usd 100 a few days ago (-43% plus an additional 5% with promo code and shipping was just usd 11), even cheaper than the NB3 after discount! But i guess for those elite runners and/or have a bigger budget, no issue with the Speed 3 and with what it brings. For the rest of us recreational runners/joggers, actually even a nitro velocity 2 is already more than sufficient. lol

The Puma are top 5 most versatile trainers ever. They can be used as gravel run shoes also.

Thanks for your feedback, I can only agree with the words you chose to describe this shoe!

Same here :-) Thanks for your comment

Good question! Noosa would be the perfect candidate but it's a niche shoe and many people want to know how shoes compare against what they're familiar with (and many people know the Nova) ;-) Hope this makes sense and thanks again for suggesting this video a few weeks ago

Love this comparison idea! Thanks for your comment and contribution to this channel, Dominic

+1 for superblast.. 😁😁😁

I feel like the Deviate is growing on all of us right now ;-) Thanks for your comment and valuable feedback as always

Thanks a lot, Matthias! Probably somewhere above 85/90kg (more than 200lbs). But that's more of a guess to be honest. Hope this helps

Hi Tim! Rebel v3 is coming up later this month or early december. It's an important review so I need to put more miles on this shoe before talking about it. But in essence it will comes down to the softness/efficiency ratio...and the rebel will be softer but most likely way less efficient. Hope this makes sense

Deviate Nitro 2 ;-)

@@AlexFilitti Okay 🙏

Probably in the top3 with invincible being even bouncier (but not as good on many other aspects)

Ok thanks

Yes it does and yes it’s absolutely great!

Thanks for the review by the way !

You're welcome Ben! I'd agree that Noosa makes more sense for tempo paces but it's unfortunately a niche shoe and many people are rather considering their Nova for that type of efforts. Hope this clarifies why I picked the Nova for this video

I would tend to go for the13 in the puma as well. Thanks a lot for your comment

@@AlexFilitti thanks!

Completely different running experience. I found the soft foam on the velocity 2 too unstructured and flexible. I love deviate’s plate, with the soft foam. It adds stability and flow to my runs

Its 30% plastic plate in pumas so it bends more than full carbon

Their is no way you have done 250k in a pair of runners 😂

@@pauldonohoe3646 250 kilometres? Perfectly doable lol

@@ThatRunnerAaron 😂 250km then, not 250k😂

@@pauldonohoe3646 runners just usually put K, and most of us usually understood what it meant lol. like how people said 5k, 10k, etc

@@acfans6101 yes, I know what he meant, it was just a friendly reply I gave him🙏 I wasn't trying to be a smart arse😊👍

Thank you! Your suggestion makes a lot of sense as I myself tend to multitask while watching/listening to videos

Deviate is too similar

Honestly none of them. Boston is too firm for what you're looking for. Asics Superblast or Brooks Glycerin or NB More v4 could be options to consider. Hope this helps

I also faced same issue i.e, hot spots in right sole after 28KMs easy long run in Novablast 3😮

Don't think it is easy to bottom out in the NB3 (FF Blast+), I tried sprinting in it (I do SIT, power walking and jogging) and it never bottomed out. For those say > 120kg weight wearing a US size 10, perhaps they would bottom out if they tried sprinting....that's double my weight, and so i am thinking that'd be similar of halving the stack height? Possible bottoming out.

Puma!

@@AlexFilitti thanks bro

Agreed! We need more grips similar to Puma's :-)

Uptempo is a bit broader for me in terms of meaning. Tempo being a part of « uptempo ». But very similar for sure

Hi, I am searching for the exact same purpose, please let me know for any recommendations. Thanks, Happy jumping 😊

How did you find the DN2 vs the NB3 and ES3, assuming you've been using it already.

@@DOLwm Out of these three, I used the ES3 and it was my main daily trainer for several months almost exclusively and I put a lot of miles into it. Then, NB3 came along and that became my favorite for a while although I continued to rotate between the two as they feel and ride quite different. I thought I was set on the daily trainer category for a long while to come and then I started seeing all these raving reviews about the DN2. I really didn't need another daily trainer but thought, "Why not? Let's give this a try. Seems like it's different enough from the ES3 and NB3." I got it and, initially over the first 2~3 miles, I thought it was okay but wasn't blown away by it. Then, when I got to around 6~7 miles, I really started getting what this shoe is about. The ride is a muted and not as fun and bouncy as the NB3 and it's not as snappy and fast as the DN2 but it felt really steady and just kept chugging me along very smoothly. When I picked up the pace, it had no problem adjusting to my gait cycle to go fast. When I slowed down, it became smoother with nice cushioning and the plate kept propelling me forward without much exertion. The DN2 can literally do it all and do them all very well. I love it and it has now become my favorite all-round running shoe. You can do short tempo and interval runs and sprints and you can go easy and long and everything in between seamlessly and effortlessly. It is by far the most versatile running shoe I've tried. The overall feel and ride is somewhere in between the ES3 and NB3. It can feel a little firm/stiff at first but loosens up nicely. It takes a little bit of break-in but not 20~30 miles or anything like that. It's robust yet extremely comfortable, protective (well-cushioned) but fast and nimble, and workhorse-like but still exciting. I agree with Alex. This is 2022's Shoe of the Year.

​@@alexkhan2000 ^Good info. Do you mind sharing your weight?

@@user-bs8ff8id3x This is from a long time ago. :) I've moved on from NB3 and ES3 but still love my Deviate Nitro 2. The NB Rebel v3 has essentially replaced the NB3 and Adidas Boston 12 has replaced the ES3. The DN2 sits somewhere in between the two for me. I'm 5-7 (167cm) and 127 lbs (57kg) so fairly lightweight.

What matters most is foams (see recent studies on the actual purpose of plates in running shoes) and of course rides. Therefore I believe it’s ok to compare shoes that have great rides despite not sharing the same specs. Hope this makes sense :)

In the daily trainer video. Could have been here for sure

​@@AlexFilitti i think that Mach 5 is faster shoe than the Novablast 3 ..?!!!