Sorry to hear that you are homeless but thanks for your review.

I find this story very inspirational and heartwarming despite the bleak nature of it all. Thanks for sharing

If its an Australian model they have no low setting

Glad it was helpful!

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Ya sure are hung

And to answer your question - yes I wish someone would test the quickest tents to set up for all sizes of tents (up to say, 10 man)

Also worth noting is that you can connect these to larger gas bottles to run for a lot longer

Electric blankets shouldn’t be used at night either

If you have hydro , why use a propane heater ? Go electric.

That doesn't keep your nose cheeks😮warm!

does mine. even sweat if I turn it high enough

Electric blanket in the tent where imma plug it in if I don't have a generator

Thanks for sharing your experience!

If you order Big buddy off tractor supply ( green version ) it has a built in fan

You should look at the Olympian Wave 3 for your Van, it’s what I would have bought if I didn’t spend the extra money on the Propex Propane Heater, I do have the Flame King that I bought before the Propex and keep it for a backup heater just in case and like it because it has a thermostat built in so it turns on and off at your desired temperature.

Wow, that's fantastic info!

Yep. I always figured there must be a story there

That's what brought me here. Just got one today. Says in all caps on the box indoor safe portable radiant heater. Says some other stuff too in Greek lol. Manual gives a list of what indoors they're talking about but clearly notes the heater is to be used outdoors. I'm aware of how this works & am always trying to learn but there's people out there that have no clue & what they don't know, could easily kill them. Still got my Coleman 5445. They don't make them like they used to. I enjoy comments before the vid. Let's me know if it's worth watching. Haven't made it to the 1st ad yet lol. Looking forward to it. 😇✌️

@@YTubeScandalScrambledMyHandle it's the same heater, just by law you can't sell and advertise combusting propane products as indoor safe so they have to label it differently at least, that's what I am completely assuming

@@escapetherace1943 would be my best guess. I'm skeptical too. Mass production & all. Always room for failure. Been a pleasure having it so far though. 😇✌️

@@YTubeScandalScrambledMyHandle I know I bought one and it's amazing. Kind of expensive if you buy a filter, hose + tank but refills are cheap if you're using 20 pound tanks

I agree the Martin CH3 was a really strong choice. I think I'm getting wrapped up in that it's not rated for indoor spaces. When in real world performance it seemed to be very safe and have a lot of advantages. I wonder why they didn't go through the extra paperwork to get certified. Perhaps it's prohibitively expensive and perhaps most people don't pay attention to the certifications, anyway.

Catalytic heaters produce MORE humidity. The point of them is to turn CO into CO2 + H20 which is safer.

I never run a heater in a tent ⛺ or vehicle 🚗 when I'm asleep or awake, even though I live all winter ❄️ outdoors.

It does! I never could trigger it, though.

@@DecideOutside once I accidentally fell asleep with my Portable Buddy Heater running. Living out of a van in Wisconsin last winter. Woke up and found it had shut itself off. On other occasions when it was below zero fahrenheit requiring extended use of the high setting, I found that even though I do technically have enough fresh air entering the van, the unit would shut itself off and refuse to relight for more than a few minutes. That low oxygen feature works quite well although I would never depend on it. Shuts off long before you notice any issue with breathing normally. I believe that a fan running in the space would eliminate what I believe is oxygen depletion in the area immediately surrounding the unit. My unit works very well but these units have obvious risks. I do consider them safe to use but primarily in an emergency or temporary situation. I don't know everything but I am a certified appliance service technician. I would much rather use electric heat in a small space but supplying enough wattage in an off grid or emergency situation is a big problem. For most the answer is a Chinese diesel heater that's properly installed. Not something I would ever want because I absolutely hate the smell of the fuel and the exhaust. My choice would be propane to quickly raise the temperature and then electric to maintain a temperature above freezing while sleeping and that also helps a propane appliance operate properly. The gas itself is less cooperative in very very cold temperature. Furthermore 1lb cylinders tend to leak the miniscule amount of propane left in them when you think they are "empty". That's possibly the biggest threat involved. Have had a few Coleman cylinders refuse to shut off when removed from the appliance with enough gas still in them that it was still in a liquid state. Now that is Dangerous!

@@jeffnorbert1871 the "low oxygen" level is to prevent it from making carbon monoxide, as carbon monoxide will be produced if the oxygen level falls below a certain threshold. That threshold is a lot higher than one where it would be dangerous to breathe in. Regardless sleeping with it on in a van could pose risks, unless you had an entire window or two open, but then you'd just lose your heat. Lol.

Good luck doing that during fire bans.

Same, I'm curious.

I would guess that canvas would tend to retain heat better than nylon and that double skinned would be better than single shin. Also the smaller the space the better.

I agree-- it's SO tippy. I wouldn't use it unless it was locked down somehow.

Have had 2 of those. Wouldn't buy another one for any important use. Portable Buddy is much better but still far from perfect.

You can't carry around solar panels that are big enough for this when camping. Where will you get the electricity from?

@@stefansoder6903 rooftop tent running 200W with a 206AH lithium

This might be new--if so, good for them! But, I do remember at the time when I purchased it that online it said it was indoor safe but on the box and in the manual it said it was NOT rated for indoor use--so, you might be running into that.

@@DecideOutside I've talked to the company and they confirmed it is indoor safe

I think emissions risk is orders of magnitude less with an electric heater, but you still are passing air over a heating element. If you are using a heater outdoors then dust is going to get in there and anything that burns is going to give off an emission. Is it a huge deal with an electric heater? Well, for some it could be. I remember we had a massive space heater growing up that almost started so many fires in our house because it was extremely powerful and there was just a grate protecting us from the red hot heating elements. So, the potential for particulates to get in there and burn off would be much higher. Also, ventilation also helps with condensation. You are creating a bunch of moisture just being in the tent and moisture in the cold could be worse than a dryer but colder tent. Anyway, that's my line of thinking, anyway, I'm sure there's very little emissions risk with electric heaters, but I'd love to know more about it, for sure.

Yeah I thought the same thing

Yeah, it's a really good question. Anything that's burning anything causes some kind of emissions, and in order to survive you need ventilation. I think you could still get benefit with even an open air tent if you are sitting right in front of the heater, otherwise, you're burning gas to heat the great outdoors.

@@DecideOutside well, I don’t think anyone can predict Mother Nature, you can be in great weather for a couple of days then bam! Nights of 32 or less, under a fire ban your only option is a propane heater whether you’re outside or inside a tent, so yeah you’re heating the outdoors but at least keeping warm.

Wow, I can't remember! That's unfortunate. I'd definitely open more than one--the air needs to pass through the vehicle not just into.

I leave the stove on in my tent while sleeping on low and i leave a window cracked and a co alarm next to me and i sleep nice and tosty :)

@@truckcampertraveler7369 Make sure the CO detector has good battery and not more than 5 year old.

While I think they're safe to use, I still don't think they're safe to use overnight--I am of the opinion that you should only use them if you're awake and alert. There are so many things that can happen and a tent is a very flame-sensitive location. Use the heater to get ready for bed and when you wake up and invest in a good sleeping bag so you can be warm while you sleep with the safest heat source of all (your own body heat).

NO!

I haven't! sounds like a great project

Yeah... it was in such a different category because it was electric. I tried it out.... and it doesn't have any emissions or anything--but it also doesn't have any safety features. It also doesn't get that hot... I dunno, I suppose in a very small tent it might work. I think another video on electric heaters would probably be better.

right? I'm kind of paranoid of using them, especially after all the testing.

It sucks

Cool to know! I have no experience with those heaters. would love to learn more.

my new diesel heater uses alot of my rv 12v batteries, not able to run all night till i can afford lithium battery setuo

I have the buddy and big buddy and love them.

Why would you use a propane heater in summer spring?

11lb tank? Most "regular" tanks are 20lb.(barbecue tank). They WILL NOT run for weeks or even days. A 20 lb tank with run for about 20 hours. Your comment makes zero sense.

@@ajjenga4316 there are 11 lbs tanks, I have one, don’t ask me why 11 and not 10 lol. But you’re absolutely right about the other statement making no sense.

It wasn't super cold, I'd say. Most of these tests were run in around 40 degree F weather, although I think some were in the 30s.

I guarantee that it makes a big difference in how they perform. Especially below zero degrees Fahrenheit. Have owned 2 little buddy heaters and neither one worked well even in the single digit temps. Portable Buddy works better but below zero it starts to act up especially on low and more so with a cylinder that is much less than full. I would say that with any of them in temps below 20° Fahrenheit it's very important to be paying close attention to what the unit is doing. Of course we should ALWAYS have an eye on them!

I think we all know what happens.

Great question---I didn't want to waste that much propane for each heater during the tests. So the heater lasted for 2 hours on high, and then 30 minutes on low on one bottle. Definitely not the best efficiency test, but it was really just an opportunistic test--my main objective was safety and just tried to collect as much data as I could.

@@DecideOutside I get it. Thank you for clarifying it.

Thank you so much 😊

Depends on the car but blankets are safe and will run forever.

the one that works with the "spray paint" type cans.