Rust removal with air jack hammer , air chisel with rubber band vs useless needle scaler
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@Marcoosianism7 жыл бұрын
Respect for the patience it takes to do that whole job.
@brucehavens14585 жыл бұрын
I have dealt with my fair share of rust and I have become pretty familiar with different acids and sand blasting media’s and every sanding/grinding/wire attachment for the right angle grinder and I have tested every pneumatic type of apparatus and I’ve learned that nothing is wonderful on everything but everything has its niche and is wonderful on something and as far as the needle scale as compared to this chisel I was doing structural welding for a few years and when it came to removing this type of heavy rust the chisel was king hands down and one big reason was that it requires far less air to operate so it can keep moving where the scaler has you sitting and waiting on air and if you were a distance from the air supply you could find your scaler doing jack shit where the chisel was able to operate with the losses experienced by long air lines- second was that needle scalers experience many quirky little issues with stuff bouncing out of place and stuff coming loose because it’s a pretty complicated tool compared with the chisel- I love a scaler and use a scaler but if this job was mine and I had to chose I’d choose the chisel hands down but since I don’t have to choose I’d use the chisel first then put the shine on it with the scaler
@supermansuperman9066 Жыл бұрын
Can you find what happened? Quick-Glo isn't avalable . It's a mystery. -Quick Glo has disappeared. No one can contact the owner's that made a famous ad with Jay Leno. Inventories have disappeared in the U.S. ,U.K. and Australia. Does anyone know for sure what is happening? I ordered a large supply months ago from their Website which is still running. I rec'd nothing not even an email confirming my order. Quick-glo is the best for chrome and rust and as a preventative. If you know what has happened; please please report on your findings.
@georgetaylor91548 күн бұрын
whats ur opinion on xion labs 2 in 1 ?
@CFLDumpsters3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful I’m dealing with heavy scale rust, this video made things a lot easier getting it cleaned up for epoxy.
@davereed1862 жыл бұрын
I watched this video about a year ago Today I just took the bed off a Ford ranger from western NEW YORK the frame was rusted terrible 1/8 thick Was going to buy a needler Then I remembered watching this Brilliant !!!!thanks for posting this on KZfaq It worked amazingly Again thanks Dave
@mark109s7 жыл бұрын
Astro camper great video, I learned a lot even though I am currently working on my 99 4x4 Chevy Thanks
@jeffkenyon4833 жыл бұрын
Dude that's genius with the rubber band,you have given me a great idea to also keep the chisel from falling out as well.
@rickilynnwolfe83575 жыл бұрын
Great tip darlin thanks so much I will use this tip on my 63' chevy nova ,God bless 🙏💜
@tonywilson25307 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video I'm about to tackle the rust on the frame of my 1970 Chevy K/10
@skytechenterprise99063 жыл бұрын
Same 1996 Chevy C1500
@jackbottomly44206 жыл бұрын
Thanks ! I had the same problem . Now I'm all set . I would never have thought of that .
@davidedgerly2 жыл бұрын
That air chisel setup is pure genius! Thanks for sharing with the world...
@jeeprenegade19854 жыл бұрын
Needle Scaler air tool works great too
@davekana83884 жыл бұрын
Great idea, I’m going to try that one! That’s why I never use the air hammer because the chisel never stays in. Thanks so much, Dave!
@rampage25877 жыл бұрын
you are a life saver. i'm dealing with similar rust to this but not the whole frame luckily. now i have hope.
@EverydayProjects3 жыл бұрын
Really good tip for the air chisel! Thanks. The frame looks amazing!
@mayorsman04173 жыл бұрын
Great video! I think you just saved me a great deal of work and frustration. Thank you
@MrBelair19564 жыл бұрын
Simple and very good idea. I had the same problem with my 56 chevy. That thing helped me alot. Greatings from germany.
@Fireship18 жыл бұрын
Great idea. Works faster than a needle scaler. I'll use this tip for sure.
@shaggyda27588 жыл бұрын
Me too, nice tip! I was using the needle scaler today to clean-up a friends brake drums , knowing this would had made it a lot easier! Thanks for the tip,
@maximusironthumper5 жыл бұрын
Excellent tip with the rubber band - thanks!
@davesaam76935 жыл бұрын
Great idea, great instruction, great video. Needle scaler works good along with air chisel.
@jimmyschmidt145 жыл бұрын
I need to de rust my chassis and this is probably gna help me out alot. thanks. Also you can put the bit in all the way and then the spring acts like the rubber band.
@brucey396 жыл бұрын
I have used the same thing on a large steel hulled boat . Works well . You can also used a cold chisel and hammer if you don't have the air tool .
@Ricky-manic6 жыл бұрын
I never knew u could do this ! Soo helpful
@detroitbluesguy7 жыл бұрын
Good job..now prime and paint..thats what we did in the Navy, we sandblast here at autorust.com again Good Job! JC
@holton3457 жыл бұрын
Y'all's SafTCaps are Jeep TJ savers, man. GREAT product!
@llewvirtue8613 жыл бұрын
Those battery operated hand tools that vibrate for wood working ,do a great job. I have just done this on my chassis on an 8 ton water truck. These tools are made by Making, Ryobi, all the main brands. There is an attachment for metal work. I found it more gentle than the other two, just as effective and easy to hold and operate. But the chisel does work, I just don't think my neighbours would have appreciated it
@thethirst4k7 жыл бұрын
Informative. Thank you.
@johnlewandowski85517 жыл бұрын
Hey , thinking of doing this ,how hard was it lifting the bed ? How many guys?
@kawkid7 жыл бұрын
That simple idea really works well. Nice job. I have a 99 gmc so I may need to fix me up a tool like that also.
@SP330Y7 жыл бұрын
@Astro Camper What do you paint onto your bare steel and iron once the rust is removed to protect it?
@downsouthscrapping31208 жыл бұрын
love your videos and your tips.
@missing1person6 жыл бұрын
a question, does rust stop getting worse when moving to dry area?
@leveragelifestyle858115 күн бұрын
That's a cool idea. I used a commercial pressure washer to knock off all the excess loose material. Worked great. Have to attack the rest of it by hand before treatment. Make sure you got that ear protection broski.
@ravenfeather70876 жыл бұрын
I've been looking for a new used truck and doing some price comparisons. Vehicles from rust-free areas in the US have about a $2,000 higher blue book value than the same vehicle from rust belt states. Why do we put up with it? There are viable alternatives to salt. Good video and a hell of a good job getting the rust off.
@larrywoodruff75304 жыл бұрын
Think I will just find a used, rust free truck from the south and fluid film it, but I commend you for your perseverance.
@BDL0907542 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this brilliant advice
@billsmith51663 жыл бұрын
Nice tip. That frame looks great.
@paulerickson30893 жыл бұрын
ingenious yet simple and inexpensive. Thank you.
@jrnysend7 жыл бұрын
OMG! What a great tip. I'm about to give it a try. Excellent !!
@danielwitt67636 жыл бұрын
what did you do about the frame under the cab?
@zXHAcKeRzXz6 жыл бұрын
I just have a question, the layer that you removes, Is it an original layer of the car that is be consumed by rust over years ? Or it's an additional layer that have been create by agglomerate corrosion ? For resume, do you "cut" the car, or you only remove a supplementary layer, not an original layer ?
@dantheman13374 жыл бұрын
Great tip, great presentation, thanks
@Leesherwood6 жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried a multi-tool with the scraper blade on it for thos hard to reach spots? if so, how does it work?
@crazyDIYguy Жыл бұрын
That's awesome thank you, my chisel was aggravating I'm going to try that 💯👍
@bodyman927 жыл бұрын
You could use a needle scaler . Pretty much the same thing but works alot faster
@troutjunkie73307 жыл бұрын
Needle scalers are useless. Watch the video to the end please.
@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP7 жыл бұрын
HUBBABUBBA DOOPYDOOP3 days agoThese work excellent, too- even faster than a 1-blade chisel www.amazon.com/Needle-Scaler-Pneumatic-Pistol-Deburring/dp/B009UY0LME/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1481930778&sr=8-1&keywords=rust+remover+air+needle+gun
@ronalddavis7 жыл бұрын
Worked on a ship once where 50 guys above me on the main deck were each using a scaling gun to clean rust off the deck. Thought my head would explode.
@mrsock33805 жыл бұрын
@@troutjunkie7330 cheap piece of shit needle scalers are useless, a real one hits harder than your air chisel.
@jimzocco63658 жыл бұрын
would cutting chisel head off and rounding it off like a ball pein hammer improve your tool foot print?
@stevendohm33995 жыл бұрын
I’m 17 and rebuilding a 91 Dodge D250 12 valve with major rust, it doesn’t help that I live in a state that uses an insane amount of salt during winter. Just looking for tips on how to get bad rust off quickly but also a bit quieter for my neighbors until I rent a shop. Any tips would help!!
@haydenlogston21645 жыл бұрын
Now that was a great tip. Thanks I’ll be using that technique.
@backyardbuilttrucks17 жыл бұрын
you need a air chipping hammer like for welding , check them.out they work great for what your doing
@MrSoundso858 жыл бұрын
Great idea! :) and gradt video!
@Jim0i02 жыл бұрын
Most relevant video on the subject.
@stevemcevoy56282 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 brilliant idea so simple yet effective 😊
@vic401717 жыл бұрын
May I suggest a Needle Scaler. Its made for the job and won't chisel though your now much thinner steel as easily.
@troutjunkie73307 жыл бұрын
Needle scalers are useless for heavy rust, good only on surface rust. I did use bunch of them.
@phiksit4 жыл бұрын
They work better when you have sharp needles. Much safer around brakes line and wiring... and better when you want to get into crevices and tight areas. You can't control that air chisel as well as a needle scaler. But sure, its good to get the big chunks off. The needles are your scaler were totally flat so of course it's not going to work that good.
@captnhowdy01able7 жыл бұрын
got one better it's called a media blaster with coarse blast, gets everything and in every part. and the best part you can hook up a water supply to keep the dust down once it dries take acetone to it to do a final cleaning then spray a rust inhibitor on it then what ever paint you want.
@billsmith51663 жыл бұрын
After using the rubber band method I've found you can adjust the hit strength by using different strength rubber bands.
@robertpittsley58863 жыл бұрын
I restore frames and my best tool is the needle scaler. The air chisel is great but it is scary using it on older frames. I work in Massachusetts near the Cape and the trucks up here take a beating.
@KarasCyborg6 жыл бұрын
Try a wire wheel. Sandblasting works great too for surfaces like this. Also a high powered pressure washer ...
@jaygold44679 жыл бұрын
What about the frame supports up front by the engine? I would be very concerned about that. Are you going to show us that? Also shackle repair.
@troutjunkie73309 жыл бұрын
Jay Gold I'm doing only the rear of the truck while I have the bed off. Later I will move to the front and work on that.
@robertv88515 жыл бұрын
You did a very nice job getting all that off.
@bigfoottoo2841 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good tip
@near--zero2 жыл бұрын
the ingenuity is impressive. utmost respect for you.
@matthewgregerson50387 жыл бұрын
I noticed you wearing a shield, what about hearing protection with that, I wear hearing protection quite often both at work and at home as well as target practicing, and even when mowing the lawn, I already have noticable loss, and don't want to make it worse!
@NeverMetTheGuy4 жыл бұрын
WHAT? I COULDN'T HEAR YOU!
@dantheman13374 жыл бұрын
Good point man. Perhaps he should have done a 2 hour comprehensive health and safety introduction to his video LOL
@gschady3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Karen .. how many masks are you wearing sitting alone reading this?
@actionbash23 жыл бұрын
@@gschady Been working in a steel fabrication shop for years. Ear plugs are basic safety bud. If you don't wear them then you are just a dumbass.
@BaldRangaProductions3 жыл бұрын
thanks for the insight mate
@martinofny2 жыл бұрын
You genius!!! 🧠 Thank you!!!!
@wlh2276 жыл бұрын
The knot with the rubber band you made is called a cow hitch.
@nalinux7 жыл бұрын
Nice trick with the rubber.
@CHIBA280CRV7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic thanks I will try it..
@jesse87213 жыл бұрын
Good job. As I say - necessity breeds creativity ...
@mdogg16046 жыл бұрын
There's something about grinding/chipping rust and crud that's good therapy......same for picking grease blobs off the suspension with a dental pik...try it, you won't want to quit.
@salahmed72737 жыл бұрын
Many thanks,,
@jameskuhn93737 жыл бұрын
great idea!!!!
@TheAkabod3 жыл бұрын
larks head knot. nice work. thanks for sharing
@insonh217 жыл бұрын
wow thanks for the video
@Masterstrange8796 жыл бұрын
That must surely weaken the frame quite a bit ? or is the part of the flake wax and shit from the road ?
@jackbottomly44206 жыл бұрын
Sébastien Cilia- They are usually built with a margin of safety. Still, it is good to stop the rust as soon as possible .
@crownvicca8 жыл бұрын
You do realize that your chisel is not attached properly to the air hammer, right? The metal spring on the end of the air hammer screws onto the hammer and locks the chisel in place with the hook on the end of the spring.
@wesleycains61117 жыл бұрын
troller the man knows what hes doing what videos have you made
@tajon53947 жыл бұрын
not hardly, Wesley.
@jaxturner72887 жыл бұрын
Silly guy, twist that coil spring a little bit and you can put the bit in all the way and then the spring acts like a real man's rubber band. Some people are so smart but miss the craziest stuff
@boblee29707 жыл бұрын
he should just talk at the rust to bore it off
@wesleycains61117 жыл бұрын
Nice guys briliant bit of advise
@solkiwigaming8 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I got here. : / damn recommended section, takes you to weird places. I will admit though, this was a pretty good tip if I ever need to remove thick rust off of something in the future. So I guess thanks are in order. Cheers.
@troutjunkie73308 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean. One minute I'm watching moon landing, then cute kittens. Just happens
@dominofive50753 жыл бұрын
I feel like most Harbor Freight tools are a few modifications short of perfect 😆. Very nice work man. Having some fun with my 4th gen 4runner. Stay away from that rubberized crap. Give her a phosphoric acid wash and some RP-342 for that lasting protection
@eliovisita2 жыл бұрын
I wanna do this a la do to my 4th gen 4RUNNER
@HairBandDan3 жыл бұрын
Damn you love that truck I just used rp -342 on my 06 GMC Sierra trying to save it from rusting like this
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang8853 жыл бұрын
I used same rp-342 the salt washed off in the car wash better this winter. Only salt I see is in the bottom center of cross support. I just do phosphoric acid treatment. haha. I got one weld plate put on also. Hopefully the "rust creep" won't destroy the chassis.
@curiel4937 жыл бұрын
Is this Marco from Tropoja?
@androidmobile9280 Жыл бұрын
That’s pretty cool. But personally I like using a needle scaler works awesome
@robertj91412 жыл бұрын
Great video, over the decades my process is do a quick pass with the needle scaler. Then the air hammer/chisel for the heavy stuff. Then back to the scaler for any small pits.
@josej.eduardo68275 жыл бұрын
How much a job like this cost?
@NeilVanceNeilVance6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@williamtse62384 жыл бұрын
Very smart with elastic band sir👍👍
@patrickhuston82863 жыл бұрын
You're a genius
@JohnDoe-uq3mx8 жыл бұрын
There is probably alot of more rust buildup than lost metal.
@dominiquestephenson1954 жыл бұрын
The other problem is boxed frames rust on the inside too...very hard to get at that rust.
@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang8853 жыл бұрын
@@dominiquestephenson195 I'm using Eastwood internal frame coating. Only someone said - that if you don't have all the dirt and buildup cleaned out first - then the paint just traps moisture. hmm.
@stateofwander6963 Жыл бұрын
Isn’t Eastwood internal frame coating more of an oil anyways?
@scottoverton64942 жыл бұрын
Good idea, but wouldn't a needle scaler be a bit easier and faster?
@jaygold44679 жыл бұрын
Good job Krystian. Very smart with the tool. It's a disgrace that GM didn't coat there frames. Obviously on purpose knowing that they would rust out. This is why people shy away from American cars. Obvious planned obsolesence. As I said, my Nissan van is dipped. Have you used Amsoil heavy duty metal protector? Wax based protectant.
@jackbottomly44206 жыл бұрын
Jay Gold - For Sure . I have seen Cadillacs that were perfect except for a rusted through frame .
@simonbolivar16786 жыл бұрын
NICE VIDEO FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIKE TO TAKE OWER TIME. SOME NICE SAND BLASTING WITH ROST TRATMENT/ PRIMER... WILL DO THE JOB. NO NEED TO BUT ANOTHER TRUCK.
@matthewjensen95504 жыл бұрын
No holes in the frame anywhere? I’d be almost afraid to hit my frame too hard😂
@s.n.81288 жыл бұрын
Why the hell am i even watching this. - The only thing i own made of metal is my guitar strings.
@troutjunkie73308 жыл бұрын
Well, don't leave it outside.
@fransiscodelrosario23367 жыл бұрын
Four Fingers
@jnunez12037 жыл бұрын
S. N. lol
@no-damn-alias7 жыл бұрын
what's with your Computer, your keys, your spare money, your phone, your door lock etc.
@afterthaut7 жыл бұрын
lmfao!!
@muhanadk29107 жыл бұрын
usefull tips,,,, Thanks
@ocalcetas17 жыл бұрын
Genius
@troutjunkie73307 жыл бұрын
My wife would argue.
@ravenblaylock137 жыл бұрын
O that's awesome
@sparkhype16525 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use a hammer drill with the same bit
@troutjunkie73305 жыл бұрын
Sure
@orange12v8 жыл бұрын
If it's so rusty may be just jack up the number plate and bolt a newer truck to it?
@jnunez12037 жыл бұрын
orange12v lol
@jordansg14255 жыл бұрын
orange12v Some people don’t have the money to do that. Definitely the first thing I thought of though lol
@shaneross34399 жыл бұрын
when are you going to do fishing videos again
@scottsteibel6 жыл бұрын
Clever!
@stanleysgill4 жыл бұрын
NeedleScaler , 20 bucks at Harbor Frieght. use mine , lot of miles on it works great....
@RichardAllen77534 жыл бұрын
I needle gunned and chiseled on navy ships in San Diego for a year. Nobody ever showed me this trick!!
@amnredflag80058 жыл бұрын
would you paint it after completion or just put mineral oil ?
@troutjunkie73308 жыл бұрын
I would paint or put grease mixed with melted wax. Not mineral oil (too easy to wash away with salt)
@amnredflag80058 жыл бұрын
+Astro Camper thanks for the information.
@dalejohnson93424 жыл бұрын
I use a needle gun and get the same job with less hassle. The needle gun will also get into areas that the air chisel can not get into.
@juansolo16174 жыл бұрын
Watch the end of the video... he has a needle gun.