Best value CITIZEN hands on: The Tsuyosa small seconds and the super titanium ‘Forza’ NJ0180

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Ай бұрын

Integrated bracelet watches are HOT. With the Tsuyosa line Citizen watches already had an affordable Rolex Oyster Perpetual in the collection and with the addition of the small seconds NK5010-51L and the new super titanium NJ0180 series I think they have a great Tissot PRX alternative in the ranks. I’m also getting some grand seiko vibes with those dials .. what do you think?
In this video i get hands on with both models in the collection to find out what there is to like or dislike about these... Things to know before you buy.
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@hendersonshorology Ай бұрын

You have me browsing for one of these! Lovely stuff Tom, appreciate your awesome videos 🙌🏻

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Curious to see where I steered you …

@russellseah2347 Ай бұрын

Citizen Super Titanium Forza is Watch of the Year for the build quality, design and price point. Period.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

might well be

@Awatchguyslife Ай бұрын

Great video! I’ll have to try that titanium on. Looks really good

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thx for your time here man 🙏

@iansegal 29 күн бұрын

Another great review Tom! 👌🏻 I like the background music.

@BowlOfSalmon 28 күн бұрын

thanks ,, about the music: ? when you noticed it does that mean it was too loud ? :s

@iansegal 28 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon No not at all. It was a nice wallpaper tune to the edit.

@BrandoDelgado-i7k Ай бұрын

Was just looking at the forza today, love the video and thanks for the info!

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thanks ! I only found out making the video the us is the only market that had the name Forza for it.

@bricksandstones5816 14 күн бұрын

Do you know when the green dial is launching?

@maritimuse9127 Ай бұрын

Awesome video! I will probably add the super titanium watch to collection in the near future. Might go for the eco-drive chrono though

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

The eco drives are cool. Maybe a little more reliable too

@julianmoriati4682 Ай бұрын

I saw your pics already on HF. I was looking forward to this vid. Perhaps, I grab one myself.

@Redondo_dom Ай бұрын

OF**

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Bedankt voor je tijd hier dan. Leuke dingen hoor voor deze prijs

@-BlueX Ай бұрын

The quality of these videos are insane!

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thanx man

@Ibra-qv8ls Ай бұрын

You meant that the watches aren't that good LOL

@weppingtonhardcastle8199 Күн бұрын

Citizen is on fire right now

@talkingabouttime1622 27 күн бұрын

You know what. I’m really starting to like this bowl of salmon guy! The Ti looks great also! Citizen is killing it in this price range!

@BowlOfSalmon 27 күн бұрын

Lol. Thx

@RedwoodAggie 28 күн бұрын

These are solid, if imperfect releases from Citizen. It is exciting to see Citizen really enter the conversation with enthusiasts. I like the super titanium model, with green or blue being my favorites. The white dial is even nice (affordable Snowflake?), but the colors just offer a bit extra style. The clasp is disappointing, but not surprising considering the price and being from a larger brand. I have even seen the Tsuyosa small seconds on discount already. I'm sure the titanium model is not far behind and will become an even better deal in that case. I tried on a bunch of versions of the orignal Tsuyosa last year and was impressed for the money. I am definitely considering getting the titanium model. Thanks for putting these watches in your extremely well shot videos.

@BowlOfSalmon 25 күн бұрын

Agreeing to what you say. 🤛(Always easy to find citizen below the official prices. )

@timetexas1518 Ай бұрын

Really nice looking watches!

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Something there to appeal to a lot of ppl

@timepeacelove5837 Ай бұрын

A great video Tom! Both look amazing, but I think I’d choose the titanium. Really love that case and agree, the clasp could have used more love, but not a huge deal breaker. Cheers!!

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thx J. Not a deal breaker at this price point. Just parts of me who wishes they would totally knock it out of the park

@timepeacelove5837 28 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon Anytime! Yes I know, with just a tiny bit more effort and $ spent, it could have fully delivered

@alfredchen4579 29 күн бұрын

I have tried on both. The blue one is brilliant when you are suitable for lighter coloured clothes, and super stylish with darker colour as well. The titanium looks quite dim and matt considering the outfits. So I think style wise, go for titanium if you are low profile; go for the steel version if you prefer a more exotic and unique dial. (I have always been wearing the most silm Citizen ecodrive watch, but the steel version doesn't weigh much on hand, which is a plus)

@RedwoodAggie 28 күн бұрын

Good points on the style of each. I like the blue, but worry it would be a bit bright and/or clashing with the other blues I typically wear. I think the blue on the titanium model might work better.

@alfredchen4579 28 күн бұрын

@RedwoodAggie yeah if you have other blues already, definitely no need to go for this one🙂

@BowlOfSalmon 25 күн бұрын

Sounds like a well thought out decision. ;)

@moniquelegarda1842 12 күн бұрын

My Titanium Forza arrived today, and I am one happy camper.

@BowlOfSalmon 11 күн бұрын

Congrats man !

@joakimdam9723 28 күн бұрын

Would definitely take the solar quartz version.

@derbagger22 Ай бұрын

I have the small seconds Tsuyosa in this blue. For my 7.5" wrist, it fits PERFECTLY. Well balanced and the blue is incredible. It really is the perfect shade. It seems to go with everything as the blue has some green in it. I wear a lot of blue in my clothing and no matter if it's royal, sky, dark or light blue, casual or dressy, it just works.

@derbagger22 Ай бұрын

Also, getting your fingers on the crown when it's out isn't too bad. If I just need to wind it, I just rub my finger against the underneath of the crown and wind it with that one finger. Much easier and fewer scratches on the case, over time.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! The blue is incredible. Tried any other straps for it yet ?

@derbagger22 Ай бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon not yet. The blue leather strap citizen makes for it looks good.

@bricksandstones5816 14 күн бұрын

Where can i get the green version of it?

@derbagger22 14 күн бұрын

@@bricksandstones5816 it's blue. There is no green yet

@vincentschneuwly9783 Ай бұрын

I tried them both at the boutique and I totally agree with your conclusions, the Tsuyosa looks great but feels too hefty and bulky on the wrist when the super Titanium wears better being lighter, and I do prefer its dial pattern, so I bought a Super Titanium for a close friend's birthday and for myself you would ask? I bought the new Seiko 5 SNXS which has kind of the same bracelet, which I do really like, than the Tsuyosa and being smaller is way more confortable on the wrist, which makes it IMO the perfect summer watch I was looking for.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

The tsuysa should be fun with a good rubber strap. It’s not a bad watch. Not at all. But I guess I just wanted the total Package to be a a good as the dials look. Or something like that. 😅

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Thx for watching btw !

@Ian_CognitoOnIG 6 күн бұрын

Citizen has been killing it lately! These wear so much better than a PRX and far better value. Love my green Tsuyosa and gold Series 8 GMT

@BowlOfSalmon Күн бұрын

I need to spend time with a prx I guess. Never did for long

@Dialandhands Ай бұрын

The new titanium models are definitely the winners over the Tsuyosas. The hands on the steel models are just to skinny.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

I have no complaints about the dials on tbh. Elegant. The titanium feels more original somehow

@Dialandhands Ай бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon I love the dials. It’s just the hands on the steel tsuyosas. The titanium models definitely look the best and have proper hand proportions.

@samuelkim2611 29 күн бұрын

Strongly agreed !!!

@irvinnwin 27 күн бұрын

Do you think the Rolex datejust hands are too skinny?

@Dialandhands 26 күн бұрын

@@irvinnwin now that you point it out…yes😅😂

@nurariefnugroho1126 23 күн бұрын

The success of Citizen Tsuyosa makes Citizen launch successors like Tsuyosa small second & Citizen Forza. Citizen just launching New Series 8 GMT with integrated bracelet likes Tsuyosa shape models. Maybe next Citizen should be release the Tsuyosa Diver. 👍👍👍

@BowlOfSalmon 22 күн бұрын

oee a diver .. that would be cool

@keithburford8589 28 күн бұрын

Good stuff as ever Tom. The offset small seconds on the Titanium appeals to me but a couple of negatives do not. I like to feel that I have something on the wrist and the only Titanium watch that actually does is a ruddy joke , yes the Rolex Deep Sea Challenge !. Personally I think it would look better sans date as the proximity to the sub seconds looks a tad cluttered. So in stainless minus the date I would probably give it whirl as for the money Citizen have been releasing some pretty good affordable pieces of late.

@BowlOfSalmon 25 күн бұрын

Personal tastes. I got used to it. And learned to love it rather quickly.

@smoove314 8 күн бұрын

The funny thing with these two watches is that they stuck with the miyota 8000 series. The new small second-hand 8300 introduction mitigates the second hand studer. I wish the Forza would have at least used the Miyota 9000 series.

@BowlOfSalmon Күн бұрын

Yeah … but now it’s silly good priced I guess

@danish.s 3 күн бұрын

I was looking for a comparison of these 2 models for a while! Though I'm still undecided, i'm leaning towards the small seconds since i want sometbing more dressy and I like to look of the dial and bracelet quite a bit more. Might consider the Eco-drive version of the titanium as an addition afterwards

@BowlOfSalmon Күн бұрын

Thx for your time. But different watches so depends on the goal I guess

@danish.s Күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon agreed. Already got the metal casioak G-Shock as my rugged, "sporty" model so the small seconds it is. It also helps that I'm seeing discounts on it already since it released a bit earlier than the titanium ones!

@FuegoBoricua203 27 күн бұрын

I hope some company out there will make a better bracelet upgrade for this watch then it will be perfect

@BowlOfSalmon 25 күн бұрын

Bracelet. Not sure. But rubber straps , they will jump on it I’m sure

@What_is_ai_anyway 28 күн бұрын

Weird choice for the super Forza to go with the lower grade movement and the same stamped clasp as the basic tsuyosa.. actually makes the tsuyosa small seconds more compelling with current discounts imo

@BowlOfSalmon 25 күн бұрын

Maybe that’s the idea. Idk.

@What_is_ai_anyway 25 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmonCouldn’t figure it out so I got both 😅

@dultanur Ай бұрын

Citizen have replaced seiko in the entry level for me, including the pro master series. Looks great,very good entry level movements at a great price. I can easily forgive the bracelets, they had to save somewhere. I might just swap my blue tsuyosa for the new ti model…

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

there is a lot of truth in this

@danielgillrup9518 Ай бұрын

Both watches are just 2-3mm too big. Hopefully they offer more sizes in the future

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

But do try the forza. Wears a little smaller than size suggests.

@samnova450 Ай бұрын

Looking for more colors to come out in the US market.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Undoubtedly. What model are you eyeing most ?

@devstories-iv1mw 10 күн бұрын

I am waiting for them to create a bit smaller versions like 38mm

@BowlOfSalmon 10 күн бұрын

maybe they will do quartz... the super titanium wears a little smaller than size suggest imho. do try it

@devstories-iv1mw 10 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon It would be nice. Yup, have to try it

@bricksandstones5816 14 күн бұрын

Hello sir i am looking to buy the green dial but i am not able to find the exact color in the same model in the United states. Can you please help me out?

@BowlOfSalmon 13 күн бұрын

might be a euro version

@bricksandstones5816 13 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon do you know the launch date for it in america?

@Phaevryn 3 күн бұрын

But can you use straps with them?

@BowlOfSalmon Күн бұрын

I feel you know the answer

@shubsodhi5986 11 күн бұрын

where can I buy one in canada? Someone please let me know kindly.

@BowlOfSalmon 11 күн бұрын

Green could be the euro version. I’m Not sure

@SoeUnfiltered 5 күн бұрын

Is that 3kliksphilip's Atomic Amnesia?

@BowlOfSalmon Күн бұрын

Probably

@Harisampath Ай бұрын

If only the colour matched the date wheel 😫

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

There is a white dial …

@samuellinchen5793 Ай бұрын

Where can i buy it in the US?

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Google will help ;)

@kennethchong6752 29 күн бұрын

I will be perfect if its eco drive and 37mm bezel

@jamest6373 28 күн бұрын

They do an eco drive version at 39mm! Look it up

@Leaptab 16 күн бұрын

Why not centre, my OCD!

@BowlOfSalmon 16 күн бұрын

part of the charm

@0x2fd 12 күн бұрын

How accurate they are

@0x2fd 12 күн бұрын

6:04 I found it

@0x2fd 12 күн бұрын

Can anyone recommend me an affordable titanium watch with quartz movement

@BowlOfSalmon 11 күн бұрын

Solid question. Perhaps I should find a quartz lineup to feature.

@BowlOfSalmon 11 күн бұрын

Check out RZE and the mecaquartz

@Chou005 21 күн бұрын

Even i can afford to buy luxury watches...i always choose tactical watches..

@BowlOfSalmon 20 күн бұрын

i tend to lean towards tools a lot too

@user-yu1pm9vj8j Ай бұрын

€379 and €429

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

True. But I usually don’t mention exact prices because they are outdated fast

@user-yu1pm9vj8j 29 күн бұрын

@@BowlOfSalmon I mention them because people want to know.

@georgecupac1202 Ай бұрын

its okay but its not a Seiko turtle.

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

That’s an icon for seiko

@ummar02 Ай бұрын

That’s not my cup of tea or rather go for tissot PRX

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

I get that. I think The tissot prx is great and perhaps a safer design overall to appeal to more

@ummar02 17 күн бұрын

Exactly

@TinBin-Craig Ай бұрын

nice watch i love it ... but intergrated bracelet i hate it .. will not buy one cheers

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

Fun to change it up once in a while ? Aftermarket bracelets will come

@electricjoshaloo Ай бұрын

That really is a shame about the clasp on the titanium. It does look cheap. I was gonna run out and grab one but maybe gotta think about it now

@BowlOfSalmon Ай бұрын

True but again. They had to cut a corner somewhere I suppose. Still a solid new line

@electricjoshaloo 29 күн бұрын

yeah for sure...great looking watches for the price. I want one.

@AamilAgmad 2 сағат бұрын

I have “real” watches and a lot of them. I have a friend who buys the #MaMaCoo's watch.we put them side by side and guess what ?! It’s unbelievable!!! I am at the Rolex boutique with her and no one can tell he has a fake