PRX style bracelet with Grand Seiko vibe dial. I feel like they understand the community better..

The clasp the part ot the watch that the wearer interacts with the most. So, watch manufacturers need to stop cheaping out on their clasps especially on watches with integrated bracelets. Instead of giving me a display caseback for an unremarkable movement, just put a solid caseback and a better clasp.

I'm glad to see Citizen stepping up their game, but I also think its criminal that since they also own Bulova, they haven't applied their Eco-Drive technology to the Lunar Pilot. Imagine the marketing for a Solar Powered Lunar Pilot. Here's hoping the YT review channels start asking Citizen about this.

man.. watching your videos is a good enough fix to keep the watch addiction at bay. There is always a new watch and there is always something missing… which leads to the continual search

Eco drive 3 hand white dial on my list! Snow flake for a fraction of the price

I prefer citizens eco drive

Beautiful honest revew . Beautiful watch . Many thanks Nizar

Citizen needs to make a 1000 to 1500 dollar version of this. What they've done for $500 is very impressive, so much so that I want to see them release a more refined version at 2-3x the price.

Bought one for a friend's birthday, great value for money. Ways lighter than the Tsuyosa but yes it misses the butterfly clasp and the movement finishing from the small second Tsuyosa which would make that a watch a all time hit

"A pattern that looks like it can grate cheese" HA!! This is a great description of the 12. Lots to like, but not my jam.

Had a PRX and after it needed to be serviced 6 or so after buying in new. It developed “helicopter rotor” and had to be returned to Tissot. I also had another watch with a powermatic 80 that developed the same issue. I sold both of them due to movement unreliability. Before I sold the PRX, I bought a Tsuyosa. I owned both at the same time for a few months. The Tsuyosa got more wrist time, and the Citizen movement is seemingly bulletproof. A few months ago, I say the watch in this review on another channel and went right out and picked up one from mastersintime for about $400. They had it to me in the USA in under a week. After having both Citizens for a month or so, the Tsuyosa wasn’t getting any wrist time so I boxed it up and put it on the shelf. I guess I’ll be looking to sell it or trade it in before too long. The new watch looks great and wears better on my wrist than the Tsuyosa did. I’m very happy with the purchase.

I own a Oceanus OCW-S100-1AJF that appears to spec out very similar to the eco drive version of this watch with great accuracy

They should release a 37mm with Ecodrive!

Toyoza haha. Sounds like a Toyota. Should be “Tsuyosa” Max haha…😂😂😂

Thank you for making high quality videos!Love amzwatch ’s watches

Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the mamacoo, its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.

Good one. Nice articulated video

I like it and do consider. Looks a little like the beater version of the Zenith Defy Skyline. An another note, listening to this video while wearing headphones the background music is very loud and distracting. Would be great to tune it down next time. Thanks a lot and keep it coming! 💪🏻

That clasp just kills the watch unfortunately. Incidentally I've just ordered a drz04 mondial so glad you brought that up!

I personally don't see an issue with a stamped clasp. It's functionally identical to a milled one, and you can't see or feel the difference when the watch is on your wrist or in your watch box.

Max. Rapidly becoming one of my top 5 content providers. Thanks for your efforts.

The blue and the white are my favourites...

got the mint dial version a month ago for a good price, absolutely love it

I think people are slow to implement the "Collections" feature...I really like it and appreciate all you do for the website!

Been watching your videos for a while now and was inspired to start a collection. Started with the MaMaCoo , its specs for price and clean looks, now am looking for a dress watch to add.

This looks great. The main issue I have is that once I've worn a bracelet with on-the-fly micro-adjustment, I can't wear one with out.

It’s almost perfect. I might grab the green dial. Hopefully some third party straps are hitting the market soon for this watch.

amzwatch You are so well-informed about luxury watches. You've obviously done your due diligence and the comparison to the US is very informative...because of course, I live in New York. thank you very much

Citizen watches are getting better ❤❤❤

to me, it’s a must-have for the era … only a matter of which color😅 mine is the jade stone

Just when I thought I was satisfied with my watch collection for now…I must add a Forza to the collection soon. Thanks for the recommendation, videos are awesome, just subscribed.

Love this review! I do wish they had an option with the green dial from the other release, it’s a very traditional Japanese color (very popular in 90s, brings back nostalgia) really looking to fill that green dial void in my line up.

Yummy asymmetry on this one, but I just got the Tsuyosa small seconds in stainless steel.

Great review!

Instead of these large corps using focus groups with people that have no watch knowledge. They should tap into watch crunch. With a 9015 and a milled clasp… home run! Good review.

Completely agree!!!

I’m excited to use the Collections feature on WC!

Now we need to wait for the version two with a proper clasp... Deja-vu anybody?

just have mine with the white dial, amazing under sunlight😍

Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from MaMaCoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.

Wish the date window was color matched to the dial and it was a tad smaller and i would buy immediately

This is literally a PRX KILLER! Gave my PRX to a buddy a while back, but always missed the style. Ordered this watch immediately when I saw it.

It definitely caught my attention upon release, especially the variant reviewed here. I am definitely considering one. I like the Twelve quite a bit, but the titanium model is not pocket change. Interesting comment about the F77. I have not tried them on, but the Lapis Lazuli variant looks great. I think I will hold off on that until I can get hands on one. As for integrated bracelet watches, I think it has gone beyond the trend and is now basically a style of watch, like pilot, field, etc. Even if it is not always the flaming hot desirable watch style, a well executed variant will always look good on the wrist.

That’s absolutely beautiful! The clasp is ridiculous but whatever. I have the 40mm PRX I got it when they first dropped the auto and it’s still the best overall package for the price.

I agree with you on CW's "The12": nice, but the dials are somehow "too much" for my taste. I really like the SW300-1 that they put in the titanium "The12s" too. I've really warmed up to titanium since I got my Citizen Promaster Land AT6080-53L. It's just insanely comfortable. If I bought a gold or tantalum watch I'd want to feel that weight on my wrist, but man there's something to be said for a watch that you can hardly feel on your wrist. That Citizen on its titanium bracelet is comfier than anything else I own, whether it's on a bracelet or FKM strap. So that brings me to "The Citizen" AQ4091-56L. I believe I need to have that watch. I definitely see more titanium watches in my future.

I just got into watch collecting. I've loved watches since I was young but I never had anyone teach me or bring deeper into the world. amzwatch brought closer to a community and hobby I always wanted to get into more and that is incredibly meaningful to me !

citizen has the potential to be a serious watch brand and not just a shopping mall glass case brand

Looks awesome

Citizen is definitely the new king of affordable watches. Great job from Citizen, I even like their AW0130 line even more.

It looks amazing. I want one.

Citizen are really making some compelling watches, their designs are really on point right now. Six months ago I would have politely bypassed Citizen, but now these Forzas are incredible.

Imagine this watch with a Precisionist movement...

Citizen are killing it, stellar looks, fabulous materials and even better value. I prefer all my watches to be 10 ATM. As for the Direnzo, it has it's charm too, but it's going to be far more expensive, is stainless steel and so will feel differently on the wrist as it weighs 50% more. Citizen has a the NJ0180-80M which would be my preferred watch out of them all.

I have never been disappointed since I became a customer of amzwatch. Their watches are of exceptional quality.

Riviera is Fu..ing briliant watch,all in satin steel and with probably the best pound to pound movement on the market,gorgeous watch.

The clasp also disappointed me, but I’m still getting one

A Miyota 8-series with a pressed clasp is a "trade up" from a PRX? That gets a chuckle. Titanium and a unique attractive dial make this worthy of consideration. I'm hanging on to my PRX, though.

Not selling my PRX p80. Pd 500 2 yrs ago on a cruise. Not paying more for the quasi upgrade. Maybe a CW12 in the future. Maybe not. Wear my PRX every week.

I haopened to stumble upon this watch I rhink yesterday and I had the photos side by side. Thought to myself - I really like the way this watch looks! But heres a question - not going crazy expensive - whatbwould you recommend if you wanted to step up in quality?

This is easily watch of the year. I got the NJ0180-80A. It is soo good!!

I own a Direnzo Mondial red dial and it’s executed very well, and so I can’t justify spending more money on a similar watch, but this citizen looks like a good product except for the clasp

Great watch and another great video man

I have the aikon and am happy with that.

It's tsuyosa not toyosa goddamnit

I just bought a tsuyosa small seconds like a week ago. Now i want this instead 😭😭

I wish this wasn't an integrated bracelet. I already have the PRX, an FC Highlife and a Perception.

Citizen getting the recognition it has so sorely lacked. Promaster chronomaster and their JDM models have been so overlooked

Good daily wrist driver. No watch is perfect and if it fits the wallet, you learn to live with its foibles.

I don't know if I'm crazy or something, but the PRX still has my heart over the Tsuyosa and over the Forza. Maybe it's the waffle dial, I don't know, but it oozes luxury to me in a way that these don't. I don't know what it is.

Id be curious to see how this compares to the citizen nb1050, its pretty much around the same price. Definitely prefer the 9000 series movement though if i was going to pay over half a grand for a watch. Nonetheless the design of this watch is outstanding imo.

Citizen change all the image of the brands,thanks to tsuyosa model,they are all great,nice and good quality,lot of my friend worn it proudly,my question is: did the acuracy of this automatic citizen is good?

Damn. If it had killer AR it would be so much nicer. But I'm going to get the green or blue version at some point anyhow. You can't expect everything for a relatively reasonable price. If they gave it good AR, an on-the-fly adjustable clasp and a 9-series movement, it would be perfect even for a lot more money. But actually I'm kinda glad they made it more entry-level. A more reasonably priced watch can be enjoyed more worry-free, and this is a sports-watch after all.

What is your opinion on the Fredriqiue constant highlife ? The salmon dial looks good. Is it worth at its price ? New one available at 40 percent off retail.

Once they knock off a few mm from this watch I’ll buy it

I used to care about stamped clasps but honestly my dad has had a Rolex Blusey for 30 years with a stamped clasp and it still works just fine. Milled would be cooler but I wouldn’t let it be a deal breaker for anyone who’s considering this watch.

I can’t wait to get my green one

They've made 100 versions of this watch already and still no 36mm case.

the dial looks great! I do wish it was smaller though, like 39, or even better at 38mm. And why offset the small seconds??

Great video, very accurate analysis. In my 4.5 years in the game as a watch collector and enthusiast, I collected a lot from mamacoo I was thinking I was able to get a blue SD but I'm not vip enough, but I'm not giving up. Hehe. Great video.

Thanks for this excellent video Max! I was wondering what your thoughts might be regarding the new Citizen 365 watches? I realize they are probably not for everyone, and the 365 days of power reserve may only be an interesting gimmick, but when I saw one at the AD I was drawn to the unique industrial appearance of the integrated case and bracelet, especially when combined with the faux aventurine dial. The main thing that kept me from purchasing it was the black plastic-looking bezel.

i own a prx and well i never thought the tsuyosa looked better esp the bracelet no matter how many vids hype that watch haha

Beautiful watch, but You can find $350 watches with a much longer spec sheet. How much would it cost citizens to give us all of the specs

I have the Forza chronograph. Got it last week and it hasn’t left my wrist.

Citizen definitely makes fantastic affordable watches.I bought an eco drive chronograph 12 years ago,works just like the day I bought it

The moment you opened that clasp- I choose to pass on the purchase. Thank you for the review.

I have an old citizen eco-drive. 30 years old. Same clasp. Simple. Works! Nice! Do not fix what's not broken! And a few days ago, I bought eco-drive version of this - Citizen Zenshin AW0130-85L. Just love it. Dial like WOW!

i like your video u pointed out every positive and negative very wise thank you

Wish it didn't have a date window

Ever since I bought a watch from mamacoo , My question is if it's this hard to tell them apart, what is the point of owning an authentic watch?

It's just ok. I will see one in hand this month and maybe that will change my mind but I don't see myself buying it.

My ‘97 Explorer has a stamped clasp (honestly worse than this one) and I’ve only ever cared about it when I’ve read that other people do. Just a thought for everyone.

I am not going to sell my PRX. I will get a Forza in addition. I also don't see an issue with a stamped deployant style clasp whatsoever. It's a non-issue. A butterfly clasp may look classier when opened, but at the end I do not consider the clasp when deciding on which watches to buy.

Surprised you used the term, "wabi sabi." Stephen (ex-Hodinkee) used this term several years ago.

Dial texture, Titanium and offset subcounter are cool. But why oh why is a great Japanese brand falling for the very long in the tooth Genta thing ?

I love the eco drive version

Hello and thanks for this video. I really like what Citizen is doing these last years. But not this watch. Because the dial is meaningless. The brand name at 12 ? Ok. A date window at 3 ? Not necessary, but ok. But wtf a small second at 5 and a model name beetwen 8 and 9 are for ? ... This way the dial, imho, is clearly unbalanced.

without a date i would buy it

Whefe can I buy it in the US?

I just hope the hype for this watch doesn't leak outside the watch enthusiasts. I don't want to gatekeep, but I saw what happened with the Moonswatch and its price hike due to scalping.. Hopefully, that won't happen with Citizen..

Na, its like the PRX all over again. Saw rave review after rave review and when I tried it on, it failed to meet expectations.