Or as I do, bungee the rucksack onto the panier rack

@@georgewarren5565 I did that for some time, but it was quite anoying to make sure nostraps are dangling from it, basket seems much more convenient. It should be bolted on though, just so that potential thief would have to carry at least a screwdriver

Yeah I do that all the time! I commute by bike almost every day. And if I need to suddenly pick something up, then I'll take the backpack out and carry it on my back as an exception.

So you gotta carry your stuff from home to the bike, then from bike into office right? Backpack in basket for me. Then, as you say, if you need to do a bit of shopping on the way in, or way home, you put on the backpack and put shopping in basket, doubling your capacity. Backpack is also a good shopping bag if its not too full already. Panniers, only a carry handle, a bit awkward, harder to attach and detach.

@@kevinsbikingadventures278 it extends the storage capacity of the basket

Or even backpack in the basket could work.

Nailed it!!!

@Dane Wade Blazing Saddles part deux!

Till you hit a bump and out flies the backpack. Had that happen once. But I tend to go fast, at least 20-30 km/h.

or even backpack in permanent panier as long as the backpack is not too large. That has the added benefit that you can store stuff in the other panier that you only need for your bike (rain gear, small pump and some bike repair stuff) you might need en route. I know flat tires aren't really an issue any longer but I wouldn't want to leave without the option to repair a flat tyre if needed.

True but it's not necessary. You just step over the top tube while leaning the bike, similar to a touring motorcycle.

Also add a basket to the back for more capacity

@@kishascape yet but its annoying

@@hil449 Unless you a delivery rider or something it's actually not bad and you get used to it. Motorcycle cops do it hundreds of times a day.

You could put the backpack in the crate if you don't want to wear it

I wouldn't want to be in the cubicle next to him after lunch.

yeahhh !!! and the coffee bottle was empty lol

The secret of the bike commuter: TURBO BOOST!!! ( Disclaimer: not for recliner bikes)

@@grintalcycles8266 if you eat them regularly and properly cooked, they dont make you toot much more than any other food. sadly, the gassing period is so freaking terrible that most people dont get through it.

And here I was thinking Shifter has decided not to use gas and other fossil fuels 😅

Step threw is my go to, no shame I ask for the " lady's bike" every time. No accidental nut smash if I slip off the pedals easier to get on and off .

And safe, low centre of gravity

Agree!

And if they're not waterproof you can always line them with a trash compactor bag... The way hikers line their backpacks.

The problem with panniers is that I am forced to either carry all my stuff on my hand which sucks or I have haul my whole bike around which also sucks.

@@jholotanbest2688 i have seen several examples of sling/back packs that have strap stows and pannier clips.

Cool! Learning something new everyday. Thanks Didier

Another fun fact, perineum is a fancy way of saying taint, gooch, or grundle.

oui j'ai remarqué ça moi aussi.

I didn't know that

Funny thing. The captions said "panties" instead of panniers.

Green with the word organic in block letters.

Even though you have an Ø in your name, you clearly aren't Danish, otherwise you'd have known about Puch Maxi's with milk crates on them. Quite the symbol indeed here in Denmark, or used to be at least, not too many Puch Maxi's around anymore. Try searching for "puch maxi mælkekasse" for images.

In the Netherlands bikes with a rack + milk/beer crate on the front are very popular.

I agree. I don’t know if bags fit in panniers

backpack in milk crate seems like the best option

Pannier's differ quite a bit. Not all panniers are joined like this set, different sizes, different methods of carrying them (including backpack type options). The main thing really is rack > back, whether you put the backpack, messenger bag, pannier(s), basket, etc. on it.

Start where you are, use what you have, do what you can.

I'm thinking of getting a good sized pannier (panniers?), perhaps large enough to set a backpack in, if the need arises.

Not long after I got the good bike I have now, and had a particular rear rack installed, I got the collapsible/rolling crate made for that rack, with the proprietary cleat and spring-loaded latch on the bottom to secure it to the rack. I can slide it off, extend the handle, and drag it around on its little wheels, or fold it down flat. I can also use an after-market lock to further secure it to the rack so nobody else can just make off with it if I leave it on the rear rack while the rest of the bike is locked up at a bike rack. Granted, this option has now gotten a great deal more expensive than it was when I got it. But, I'm generally torn between this option (with my backpack in the crate) and my panniers for my commute to and from campus. Much depends on what all I need to carry with me. For groceries, I would actually just take the panniers into the grocery store (pre-COVID) as my "reusable bags" and load up the groceries directly into them, but my main set of panniers are actually individual ones rather than the joined "saddle bag" style, and each one hooks onto the side of the rack, with a toggle behind to secure it. So the people in the store never found it too odd. They're also insulated specially for groceries, so they're pretty sweet, and they were only about $20 apiece, at the time. Sadly, the don't make that style anymore.

🎯😜🆒‼️. B O T H

My basket had a pretty secure lid on it. It wasn’t lockable, but it only ever came lose if I tried to jump a curb a little too hard.

@@terenceharris5610 you definitely are not familiar to Belgium roads, I agree with 2ndbariton

It depends where you are in Canada. Here in Ottawa, the bike trails are fairly smooth, but then some roads get heavily damaged from heavy trucking and freeze-thaw cycles. I do understand what you are saying though; I've biked on some of Montréal's cobblestone roads and it can get quite bumpy! I like to place a backpack in a basket, and luckily it was very snug so I didn't have the problem of things bouncing around.

This video gives me the impression that you don’t have to carry an extension ladder to work.

@@terenceharris5610 oh that sounds like a good idea. Never thought of that.

i would argue that it's you who's providing the shock absorption, not the backpack, but your point still stands i'm a backpack advocate, to the point that you'll rarely catch me without it

That is nothing, have a look at kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iL-jh8-Xzaq3dI0.html :-)

I wish they can accommodate bikes on London commutes. Typically no bikes on trains at rush hour, unless it's a folding bike.

@@berniethekiwidragon4382 I can’t even fit bike on bus in U.K.

@@washx2k755 Yep I question the premise as well. I live in the UK and it just isn't true (from my experience in the south east and Greater London).

@@GTMarmot so u guys don’t have problems with Arriva bus?

@@washx2k755 I don't use buses but those who do don't take bicycles on them as there's no space for them in the rush hour.

I need to buy rope.

Yessss this is the winner right here! I have dual 582s with optional homemade liner bags so I can carry groceries out of them.

I’ve been using a pair of Wald 582s for over twenty years. Combined with a cargo net you can haul a lot of stuff.

Are they easy to attach and remove? I’d like to get a basket as well, but I don’t want to have to unscrew/screw in a bunch of nails every time I want to take it off and put it back on. Or have it be a permanent fixture on my bike.

@@SomeGuyWhoPlaysGames333 They're permenantly attached but fold away very flat. I suppose you could attach them with zip ties if you wanted to.

Put an oversized bag in the basket and then put items in that. Then remove the bag with items if needed to take with you. Leave the basket/crate. It also makes bike more cumbersome to deter theft. More cumbersome = more time and energy to take the bike. If your commuting you shouldn’t need to worry about it during the actual commute as you will be riding. It’s before and after the actual commute.

That's why I just use a pannier, out of the way, holds load close to together more securely so less movement and space taken, and mine comes off to become a backpack.

Never ever leave anything on your bike that you are not prepared to have stolen. Bags, panniers, lights.... I've seen the wheels or seat taken from locked bikes. I've seen many locked wheels in bike racks and the rest of the bike gone. 😟

@@tconnolly9820 in crime-ridden cities like mine the concern is also things being grabbed out of a basket when you're stopped in traffic or at a stop sign. I agree though that some of that can be solved by having a backpack in the basket which is lashed down. But yes. In my city leaving anything of value unsecured on the parked bike you'd be really surprised to find it still there when you came back to it.

@@tconnolly9820 Lol who locks their bike by only locking a wheel to the fixture? The absolute minimum which i would consider doing is a lock going through the front wheel AND frame.

I would check the hooks periodically because my ortliebs vibrated loose and basically you can't hang them. The bolt fell out once and i was lucky to have a basket on the front to transport it. I have a long commute and it was night. The basket saved my ass. It's the same with fender screws and losing a screw is no fun.

Just don’t put a water bottle inside the ortliebs, they are waterproof both ways. The water bottle popped open and I had pannier soup. Expensive, but I’ve had mine over a decade so really it’s 10$/year...

I have the same pair since '99. Never had any thing happen like Nowayout, but then again I check them regularly, or move their position which is in effect, a check. I use them when walking about, as well, as I live in a rainy area.

Mine are going on twelve years old now, one of the best items I've ever bought for my bike. I've ridden through torrential rain, and everything has stayed dry inside.

@@TC-im8eq ooh, I did that once! Unfortunately my iPad was in there with the bottle. :-(

the dutch know how to show a girl a good time!

Thanks for sharing your experience. It's so helpful for others to hear.

I have aldi panniers that convert to backpack. Can’t beat 13 euro.

Haha, if you ever visit the Netherlands you can see the magic of students moving with their bikes. Sometimes complete couches are moved on simple bikes.

@@Arlae_Nova Cargo bikes?

When my backpack is too heavy, (student), my back just starts hurting...

yea, cargo net is superior evolution of the bungie.

Backpack is not really comfortable for longer rides because you get sweaty underneath on longer rides (>5 km).

Do the panniers make it good for groceries

@Arturo Gonzalez panniers are awesome. They close securely, and most times, you can just drop your shopping bag into them.

Amazing! Good luck to you

Never stow a computer where it could bounce out!

@@31xrg yeah I actually got careless one time and threw my laptop into the crate on my bike before going to work. I missed and the laptop landed on the concrete driveway. It survived, but I felt kinda no too clever about it.

Glad it was helpful!

Care to explain? I'm currently into making the switch, I'm a new rider that's annoyed with back sweat on my way to school and my 30 min bike commute. Don't have a rack on my bike either

they're a good way to catapult all your stuff to the side, at least that's half the front baskets I see on the market.

@Stephen Beary damn I live in fear anytime I ride one-handed.

Yes, I agree. I have some repair tools and a spare tube in my panniers, and I leave them there are all times.

I love the folding basket! The only downside for me is that they’re heavy

@@matthewcain2880 yeah for sure. Generally manageable but every once in a while I'll take the rack /baskets off and my bike will feel so light.

How do you know

@@hexxed4245 😄 Because I've carried much too much stuff.

Does a front rack make your bike wobble, especially going faster? I've had front baskets and not tried a rack because of the wobble.

@@lindatisue733 Front racks that are mounted to the fork or handlebars do. A number of cargo bike manufacturers, mainly in the Netherlands, make bikes with racks mounted directly to the frame. In this case, the bike is often more stable. Since these bikes are designed to be ridden upright, most (probably over 80%) of the weight is in the back of the bike, so a front rack balances out the back. I'm not sure you can easily retrofit a bike to have a front rack however. Here are some examples: azor.nl/azor-fietsen/

@@TheSJCieply Thanks for the link. When I need a new bike I might be able to find a Dutch bike with the frame rack.

I'd love to visit Prague some day. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Voting in the wrong people. From the US, we have the same problem. Too many people who vote, shouldn't: they are first order or magical thinkers, no idea the complexities or costs, and they don't care. So politicians pander to their wants, and take from those who produce, while taking a lot off the top and getting rich. Education doesn't help, especially now; they're teaching kids to answer, not to think. They think interaction should be like a video game: they select from a few answers, they don't process anything, articulate or understand anything. Which is the intended outcome, really. Good workers, not good thinkers. Thinkers challenge the status quo, which is profitable for those running the society...

Happy to see another bungee man!

Brilliant! Like permanently attached baskets on the side of the bike?

@@raffisandoval9103 My first ones were permanent but I bought the mounting hardware from Arkel. They are made to survive a nuclear blast so I keep moving them to revisions. I'm on version 4.0 now.

Found grey, real deal milk crates for 8 bucks each at target yesterday. 1st time I've seen them for sale. Normally not for sale and just taken by people.

Just go steal one from behind your local Walmart go at night time and be very quick as there's usually trucks unloading at night time but they definitely will have empty periods of time. Early morning is even better, you could try from behind other grocery stores but Walmart is the best as they package them loosely with just some plastic wrap securing the pallet of stacked milk crates. Also you can ask a local Asian convinence store if you can buy one of theirs for a few bucks, probably you can also ask a McDonalds if you can buy one just make sure you appear friendly and well dressed when you ask and ask the manager in store directly. If they say no come back a few days later and try with another manager....