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Best Whoop Starter // Sub250 WhoopFly16 // Digital FPV
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Жыл бұрынThis drone turned out to be much different than I expected.
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@Ux2_4u Жыл бұрын
That flight at the beginning is going to scare the crap out of the beginners. 😂
@beachhobbies 5 ай бұрын
You got that right, figured there’s no way I could fly that thing, way too fast..
@johncarold Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick, Great video and review of the Whoopfly 16. WoW, this looks great, it definitely looks like a fun quad.
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
PSA; I ordered a quad directly from Sub250 and it arrived with the USB port bent pretty badly and touching the frame. They didn’t respond to several emails so I filed a case with PayPal and they didn’t respond to them either (today actually the final deadline for PP). Buyers beware.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
oh man, that is not good. I will ask the rep about this type of support handling. Thank you for letting me know. This is important information!
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV You’re welcome. I’m really bummed because I wanted to have an HDZ bird ready when my goggles arrived and now all the good HDZ rtf’s are sold out 😫
@MikeBradleyJ Жыл бұрын
I ordered one directly from Sub250 on April 22nd. It hasn't shipped yet. I'll try to remember to update here when I get it. I did ask a question on their on-page chat and got a meaningless reply. Question I asked: "I'm looking to buy a WHOOPFLY16 and as I go to add it to my cart it's giving me a series of additional parts I might want (like batteries and a charger), the one that confuses me is the "Redfox A1 F4 5A 4in1". What is this? Is this something needed?" Answer received: "Redfox A1 F4 5A 4in1 1S AIO FC"
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
@@MikeBradleyJ Ugh, more bad vibes for certain. That’s the flight control board, which they’re offering as a spare replacement part. I’d personally hold off on that until you need it - because if you don’t test it right away, you wouldn’t know if it’s defective until possibly months down the road. And at that point it would be difficult to get it replaced.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@MikeBradleyJ Maybe I can answer a bit more. the Redfox is the all in one board in the quad. It has the flight controller, osd, esc, receiver and if we order the analog it might have the vtx (video transmitter as well).
@MCsCreations Жыл бұрын
Fantastic flying and review, Nick!!! 😃 Fascinating little quad! It should be a nightmare to make repairs, but it really looks and flies great! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
yea, repairs are nearly a full disassembly, but I will say far easier than say a traditional cinewhoop with hd, mostly due to the quick connections of the motors and that ability to lift boards out to cleanly access.
@imager09tube Жыл бұрын
Man you are good! So many years in the same track! nice!
@minirollsrule Жыл бұрын
Great new take on the whoop, would love to see one in person
@JwanSoloFPV Жыл бұрын
sick flying nick 🔥🔥 amazing review tank you
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@acidriott Жыл бұрын
Damn that thing boots! Your a good pilot!
@classics967 Жыл бұрын
Jeez that flying is good!
@dondupuis4007 24 күн бұрын
Yes you have to take it apart with Walksail, and the bind button does align with the hole you identified.
@BergeronFPV 2 ай бұрын
Your reviews are awesome pls keep going
@iFLYXWings6589 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another amazing review🎉 makes me want to get one 😂
@jmollick1 Жыл бұрын
Seems like a little beast!
@JAYFPV24 Жыл бұрын
Jesusss thing looks fast affff or it’s just your epic flying lol always enjoying your videos brotha !!! All love Mandalooooo
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
This isn't as fast as lighter counter parts, but flies surprisingly well at its weight and inverted.
@JAYFPV24 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV hell yea brotha keep ‘em coming !! All love from this side
@Retnuh1974 8 ай бұрын
Awesome review
@gmivisualsjason3729 Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@aaronwagoner1104 Жыл бұрын
Very good operator
@amin0_acid310 Жыл бұрын
Nice looking quad, I'd buy one just based off that. I like the nice clean look, those motors look damn sweet. Always love watching you rip around, Funny that you were using Actual rates for a bit, I've gone back to BF rates and actually am currently trying out yours and they are definatley in the direction I needed to go. Thanks for the video, might suggest the analog version to a friend that's new to whoopin! Happy flying! Cheers!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I do wish there were space in the canopy for where the vtx updating port is, we could do it ourselves, but they could have as well.
@amin0_acid310 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Yeah, one day engineers will think about the mechanics. One day…
@MRdeLaat Жыл бұрын
you fly realy good. im looking for my first indoor whoop and this might be it
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Indoor we are going to crash a lot and I think this one will handle it better than most of not all…so far
@phiveone Жыл бұрын
This is THE starter quad!
@whooperfpv Жыл бұрын
Nice frame
@lemonsquareFPV Жыл бұрын
Nick just hit the right button on your goggle to stop recording after a crash, and if you have auto recording enabled it will just start recording another file (or just manually start it again). This way your crashes will always be at the end again, and you won’t have to waste time scrubbing through all the footage. Great overview! Thank you!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
right but who wants to do the button presses 😆
@lemonsquareFPV Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV 😜 Personally: An investment of one second saves me one minute+ in the future, so, I dig it. I was just sharing my method, I do this after every notable event, so it saves me massive amounts of time when I have 2 hours of DVR a day, every day, on average. It’s just impossible for me to go through all of this footage, so I employ this time saving system. This way I only have to check the last 10 seconds, which I also use to make voice notes to myself, as my memory is terrible at times. 😜 Works very well for me!👍🏻👍🏻
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@lemonsquareFPV It is a good life hack. The first hack for me would be to break the immediate turtle mode habit 😁
@igore4ek1988 Жыл бұрын
Nice whoop, nice house 😊
@pharmapsychotic 7 ай бұрын
I'm excited to get mine, it looks really durable which will be good for me as I've been destroying frames and props like crazy with my hard floors (laminate on concrete slab)
@NickBurnsFPV 7 ай бұрын
Should hold up better than our traditional whoops for sure
@eturnerx Жыл бұрын
AUW similar to an EMax Tinyhawk 3. But, HDZero and ELRS. This might be my dream quad.
@balajiprasad9046 Жыл бұрын
A 2S version will be nice to have ~
@pksteffen Жыл бұрын
Hauling!!!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I didn't think I would be able to manage must pace at 52 grams. nice little surprise.
@dondupuis4007 Ай бұрын
I have ordered one
@budnanc509 Жыл бұрын
Ordered one... thanks
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy it as much as I have.
@MattysRCWorld Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely friggin amazed at how fast you can rip these whoops through your house like that! I wanna make a whoop track in my house, but I'd rather not have to pay for a divorce lawyer haha....awesome review, as always Nick! 😊👍🏼🤙🏼
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Yea it would be better not to have to do that for fpv. Maybe a tight course in a single room or garage?
@scu-dub Жыл бұрын
Another great review nick I have been wanting a cinewhoop that is versatile and I ended up ordering the cineape 25🤞🏼 lol this is a very good beginner whoop though personally I love my mobula7 that thing is just a beast sub 250 coming up🤌🏼👍🏼
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
The mobula7 1s is a good one as well. With the lower weight of the M7 the performance is more top tier.
@bugsy742 Жыл бұрын
Ah mate - I’d take either of those two, I’ve still not got a whoop! 😱👍
@scu-dub Жыл бұрын
@Land of Saints FPV trust me when I tell you that you can't go wrong with a mobula7 1s elrs it flies on rails 👍🏼 I had the gyro problem with the old version of betaflight on my first mobula7 1s elrs and before that happened it flew awesome! So I just bought another one lol and after betaflight fixed the issue I haven't had any problems 🤞🏼 now I have brand new spare parts for my new mobula7 1s lol I have only been in the hobby for a little over 2years so I'm still a newb but getting the hang of it I melted my brain with research on everything and wanted a cinewhoop that could freestyle and after seeing a dozen I decided on the cineape 25 nick is the reason for me buying the mobula7 1s his reviews are on point! He hasn't steered me wrong sorry for the book man none of my friends are into fpv so I ramble about it when I can 😁✌🏽
@InfinityLoops Жыл бұрын
Great video Nick! Love the Split-S! Bummer to hear GNB is going to be phasing out the GNB27 connectors for the A10.
@sevenotwovegas7269 Жыл бұрын
Really I just moved all my batteries to gnb27 😢 I guess bt2.0 moving forward
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Is it really a split s? I feel like the split s has more invert than I did. I haven't confirmed, but I thought the new connector was going to be backwards compatible. I have some of the new connectors and batteries enroute.
@modquad18 Жыл бұрын
I converted all my whoops and whoop batts to GNB27’s, and while better than ph2, I haven’t been thrilled with the consistency. Some fit very loose, while some you have to grunt to get together and apart. You can adjust the loose ones somewhat by spreading the male pins with an xacto, but the tight ones just undo any adjustment you make.
@DonJohnsonFPV Жыл бұрын
@@sevenotwovegas7269 Why make such a bad decision ? Not jocking I had 50% failing rate (nearly as bad as Happymodel FC). And keep telling to avoid it since. Do your favorite s*cker, sorry reviewer didn't tell you ? 😅
@DonJohnsonFPV Жыл бұрын
@@modquad18 better than PH2 with so much issue ? I NEVER HAD A SINGLE PH2.0 FAILING IN THESE LAST 5 YEARS !!! And it never keep me from flying as sick as I wanted !!!
@Levytan1 11 күн бұрын
I got the rtf kit of iti wait allready for 28 days but it comes monday cant wait
@pandrews01 Жыл бұрын
It always enjoyable to watch you fly Great review. Looks similar to GEPRC Thinking P16/Tiny GO. Great review. Nice quad, but that one piece canopy looks like a hard fix should it break.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I would probably go the same route fixing this canopy as I do whoop frames, welder. Hopefully it holds up well for others as it has for me and we don't have to worry
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
That GepRC was super heavy! Really a flying barge! Old tech, where weight was an after thought to makers! This is a heavy whoop, but that GepRC was obese! 😢
@ackroyd11 Жыл бұрын
Can you please make a top 10 video for the various categories of drones you have reviewed. Because even with watching most of your reviews i still cant work out whats best. Thanks
@Booster388 Жыл бұрын
I want to try this out it seem lock in
@Nspecthergadget2010 Жыл бұрын
HD ZERO looking really good. nice flying sir.
@damianwyczakowski2491 Жыл бұрын
I want that drone hahaha
@iulseyer Жыл бұрын
hello, Nick... awesome flying... you rip it well, absolutely amazing... would you mind sharing your CLI parameters/PID. I build mine in a kit since I have already motors... so default setting for this setup wasn't there... looking forward for your help.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
The cli for the whoopfly can be found here sub250.com/apps/help-center#hc-whoopfly16-file I only change the rates, osd element positions and switch assignments.
@vernelfpv Жыл бұрын
i ordered the cineape already. I should have waited for this whoopfly16. because until now there is still no feedback from darwinfpv about my Cineape. Sub250 replies more to my queries about this product
@TommyTester Жыл бұрын
Can I use an XM+ with the analog version?
@dondupuis4007 13 күн бұрын
The did away with the GNC 27 connector, guess to many of users plugged the battery in backward, cooking the complete system. I had the walksnail, replaced aoI board, no luck guess it burnt deeper than I thought.
@rickm1041 Жыл бұрын
Great video and review. Being a fixed wing pilot since the 70's and my experience with drones is older DJI Mavic's. Just bought a Radiomaster TX16S for fixed wing FPV and is ELRS module capable. I would like to know what Goggles to purchase? thanks for your help.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Goggle choices will be mostly dependent on the video transmission system your planning or wanting to use. The hd video systems aren’t compatible with one another
@yesil1026 Ай бұрын
A good beginner FPV for me after one month of simulations.
@kestrelfpv4712 Жыл бұрын
i like it! Nick, why do you not race? your an amazing and fast pilot.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Its really about time away from family. As a hobby I can't pull myself away to go attend a race, which would pretty much be a two day trip, nothing close to me.
@HendrixFreakazoid Жыл бұрын
Yeah I got big stuff to fly but it's pretty much been a whoop way of life for me since I discovered the tiny but mighty whoops a few years back and I could go on and on how they're one of the greatest inventions ever even the swallows like to fly friendly with them when you're zipping across the sky
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
We have Jessie Perkins aka Mr. Tiny Whoop and Dr Ben for the whoop wonders. They are pretty much the founding fathers.
@HendrixFreakazoid Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Didn't know of Dr Ben but Jesse is my hero hope to meet him one day I was able to recently get through to him on Infinity Loops live stream of which you were apart of I gave him a bumper sticker idea that he hadn't thought of but he liked I think he said he might do it
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@HendrixFreakazoid Dr Ben was another old school micro guy, he had a shop micro-motor-warehouse.com he stepped away to tend to family health issues. Jesse is a hero and pioneer as well
@HendrixFreakazoid Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Me being the brushed motor junkie that I am I was well aware of MMW I even acquired a bunch in an auction recently so I probably should have known Benedikt is Dr. Ben
@georgeaura Жыл бұрын
You could take the canopy off and open up the hole where the ant is at to make it fit in tightly.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Do you mean the larger round part of the antenna to be seated well inside the antenna holder of the canopy/frame?
@zsolezk Жыл бұрын
Awesome! This might be my next one. The I got Meteor75 is not at all durable.
@sub2degamer Жыл бұрын
yeah, especially the VTX. the plug you put the camera into is especially weak.
@_tcmore Жыл бұрын
I see the split s over the treadmill recommended by Heads has made an appearance 👍
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
yea, kinda, I am not sure I am really doing a split 2, or some not so inverted thing.
@InfinityLoops Жыл бұрын
I thought it was pretty good...
@_tcmore Жыл бұрын
@@InfinityLoops @Nick Burns I thought it looked good too
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@InfinityLoops your being kind aren't you? 😅
@porshacarroll9600 Жыл бұрын
Look at Nick split s'n the treadmill 😁✅🤟🏾
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
my question is it really a split s? I don't feel like I really got inverted which I thought the split s has.
@porshacarroll9600 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV looks like it to me 🤷🏾 I split s to the left
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@porshacarroll9600 I did try to the left, but I smacked the wall a few times and to the right gave me an option to bail out if I wasn't lined up.
@zeta7SoloFPV Жыл бұрын
Great review. Seems like my timing is always off. I'm kinda locked into this Meteor75 I bought a month ago now, especially since my last crash disabled my camera and I have to fix it.(wire came loose from it). I was thinking about a pusher build being my first actual build, but I might just ask for one of these for father's day instead ;)
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Dang sorry to hear the 75 needs a repair. If its analog is should be rather simple fix if only a wire. Pusher builds do provide for more camera protection and keep whoops out of view, we do have to be more careful to disarm quickly when we crash as the inverted motors have the props right down close to the ground.
@zeta7SoloFPV Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks, I think the hardest part of fixing that wire is being able to see it. lol! Guess I'm going to have to invest in a decent workbench setup, with lots of magnification.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@zeta7SoloFPV yea, I had to buy a headset magnifiers. I actually use them to clip my finger nails now as well 😁
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Yup! Had one of those headset magnifiers for several years! Couldn't do without it. Amazon has a ton of them under $15 with about 5 different lenses to choose from! A must have! 😎🤘
@loganbentley4839 3 ай бұрын
Hey I was installing a micro axii on this and I seen a vtx button on bottom of my FC so I held it and plugged my battery up hoping to change my vtx out from 25mw cause I can't do it in the osd but now FC dosent beep and won't work when I plugg in
@NickBurnsFPV 3 ай бұрын
sounds like the button was on the flight controller and now its stuck in dfu mode which is a pre boot mode. Need to find a way to unstick the button. Can't give you direct directions for that, just trial and error.
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
bro this whoop lowkey rips, way to go sub250.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
yep, not a top whoop performer but very robust and flies nicely at its weight.
@Tokyo_Dom Жыл бұрын
This looks pretty cool! Is the camera tilted a little though? It seems like the footage is 10-15degrees tilted to the left. Current scale appears to be off too
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Yea, that could be although the holes for the hdzero camera are just that holes, the walksnail camera holes are slots allowing for that horizontal movement. I kinda feel like we could be seeing the camera lens housing itself, but I have not seen or noticed that in previous hdzero nano cams.
@imager09tube Жыл бұрын
Would you put your PID,s for us to start with incl any exp if u use it! Thanks
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I don't use expo and the pids used in this video along will all review videos are the pids the quad comes with.
@peterletu 8 ай бұрын
Hey bro - I cant enter the joystick mode by pressing 2 buttons as per manual. U have any tip please?? Have you used this RC for the computer simulators?
@NickBurnsFPV 8 ай бұрын
the remote only works for simulators in bluetooth mode. The remote doesn't support usb mode for computer connection.
@PetesPlace420 Жыл бұрын
Looks good, sounds like pisst off Bumble bees hehe
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
now I have to go find what a bumble bee up close sounds like :)
@PetesPlace420 Жыл бұрын
@Nick Burns O you have to P*** them off too lol.
@propwash6880 Жыл бұрын
How many knickknacks have u broken?
@flat-earther Жыл бұрын
Nick do you know how to make an analog video scrambler? I wouldn't want my neighbors being able to tune into my video feed while flying in my private property.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
No I don't.
@stevelhamon2031 Жыл бұрын
Could I fly this with a spectrum radio and a analog goggles from Motion rc?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I am not familiar with those goggles. Most analog goggles should work. Not many of our current micro drones come with spektrum, likely have to add a spektrum receiver to make it work with that radio.
@thecmac Жыл бұрын
Thanks Nick! I am interested in the Analog AIO - F4, ESC, ELRS + VTX on one board? 😋
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
You can buy a MUCH BETTER AIO from Flywoo. Ultra lightweight. Non SPI ELRS. More than 5 amp ESC's. Just a way better board... Check it out. 👍😎
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
The flywoo goku aio is a good board for a 5in1. I do have one of them I haven't been able to get working normally though. That is 1 of about 5 i have bought. They are pretty expensive at about $100.
@imothy Жыл бұрын
I'm also noticing a lot of HDZERO videos, not only do they have a lot of breakup, but I keep seeing skipped frames or stuttering in the footage. Are you seeing that in the goggles too or is it just in the DVR?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
In my footage? I haven't noticed excessive breakup or missed frames. Maybe I don't have the eyes for it.
@pierluigizagaria Жыл бұрын
What do you reccomend as a starter whoop that could do some freestyle while carrying a insta go?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
really none, It would have to be a big whoop (2inch prop) to freestyle while carrying an insta go camera. To much weight in that camera.
@dondupuis4007 24 күн бұрын
The first time I used the GMC connector, I found it easy to connect the battery backward, did so twice and toasted it the second time around, ordered the all-in-one board, hoping VTX was still good. Wouldn’t happen to know where I could get a dump for the original AOI? Will change the connector and battery connector.
@NickBurnsFPV 24 күн бұрын
oh shoot. I hope the damage isn't extensive. The cli dumps can be found here sub250.com/apps/help-center#hc-cli-files-for-whoopfly16
@dondupuis4007 17 күн бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thank you so much! I'll let you know if putting the battery in reverse polarity frys everything.
@NickBurnsFPV 17 күн бұрын
@@dondupuis4007 unfortunately it often does come some damage. It might still fly but the overall longevity will likely be decreased.
@marcosrossetti1582 Жыл бұрын
Nice, too heavy for my taste, but looks like a tank and that would last a whole Igow Season.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
maybe, just maybe last an igow season. Igow and learning the tricks can be rough on our whoops, the weight likely makes doing some of the later igow stuff really really challenging.
@ragndroneman Жыл бұрын
Came here to watch bot surf the subway with this but NB came up in my feed 1st. So, well you gotta see what Nick has to say 😀👍 Edit: a 1s digital whoop?!? Amazing.
@BOTGRINDER Жыл бұрын
lol
@ragndroneman Жыл бұрын
@@BOTGRINDER made sure I found your video next, dammmmm, love that review, gonna be hard to top that 1 for me, awesome soundtrack too 👍
@DaveWilliams988 Жыл бұрын
Great review Nick! I just purchased one and my ESC on motor 2 was DOA. I reached out to RDQ and they copied Sub250 support. They did get back to me quickly and they are sending me out another FC.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Good resolution but still unfortunate to have to wait to enjoy it. Thank you for the information
@DaveWilliams988 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Just received the FC, got it soldered up and flashed BF 4.4. Seems to be working great now.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@DaveWilliams988 Nice, did you have to transfer a cli over or did it come ready to slide right in?
@DaveWilliams988 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Hey Nick, I had to grab the custom CLI from Sub 250's website. I picked the ELRS Avatar version and all I had to do was put my binding phrase in, set my arm switch, OSD and it was good to go. One thing that is weird is that I am not getting RSSI dBm. LQ is working though but not really a big problem since I just cruise around the outside of my house and don't go too far with it.
@DaveWilliams988 Жыл бұрын
BTW I am getting a little over 3 minutes flying outside with the GNB 550's.
@dondupuis4007 13 күн бұрын
They now come with A30 connector.
@kelby2811 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking into buying this kit but the site has noreviews and is from the uk, I don’t have anything wrong with the uk but I don’t like that it’s from another country. Has anyone bought from the website and how was the experience? Can I trust it?
@The_Pub_ Жыл бұрын
How often did you have to repaint your walls and replace your photo frames??
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Its been years, the pictures fall off the walls from doors being slammed :)
@ioeman8478 9 ай бұрын
are the goggles 2 and tx16 compatible with this?
@NickBurnsFPV 9 ай бұрын
no. Goggles 2 is for DJI video transmission this is hdzero digital fpv.
@muchthump Жыл бұрын
So what is the best 75mm HDzero whoop for freestyle indoors? (with light outdoor use) Performance wise.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
The best is likely one I haven’t flown yet as it’s very new the fractal75 hd.
@muchthump Жыл бұрын
@NickBurnsFPV I have access to a big warehouse with high ceilings, old wooden rafters with some steel pipes to slalom around. So am looking to build one that can navigate all that, power loop and practice skills with skme gates, but can also take a hit or 2, glancing off something hard without exploding. Also want a jungle gym basher and the sub 250-16 might be the ticket, there. Thanks for the vid!
@muchthump Жыл бұрын
Just ordered a fractal 75 frame kit.
@MrLegoBibi 6 ай бұрын
Hi after some weeks with my radiomaster boxer on simulator i am planning to buy hdzero goggle and a drone, i was in the idea to get an analog tiny as my first drone to be able to fly in my appartment with a 65mm but the cost of a good analog receiver (speedybeee or tbs fusion ) is something to add to the already big price of the hdzero goggle + drone so i am thinking to take this one do you think it's a good idea ? or maybe take an analog receiver + the analog version of this drone or another ?
@NickBurnsFPV 6 ай бұрын
Having to add analog to the hdzero goggles does increase cost + antenna, likely $150. A more budget friendly choice is this whoopfly with hdzero. At this time I would recommend the whoopfly with hdzero for indoor flying over anything I can think of in the moment.
@BreeZieDoesiT 5 ай бұрын
@NickBurnsFPV that says alot after all you've flown. I think I'm gonna buy this one instead of finding something from China in the mob 6 or 7 for hdzero.
@tolgaturan.92 Жыл бұрын
Does is support radiomaster t8 lite , thank you for the video
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
No the t8 lite has the cc2500 which does not support elrs or crossfire/tbs which are the only two protocol its available in.
@tolgaturan.92 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks for your work
@fabiano6408 Жыл бұрын
what googles are you using with this tiny whoop?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
hdzero goggles. they have an internal hdzero module
@Latchfpv Жыл бұрын
Holy wow, why would they make it such a pain to access the VTX board. Looks like a pretty rad quad otherwise. Highly tempted but also somewhat leery about that. I wonder if I could cut a hole in the frame somewhere to access it without having to do surgery every time...
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Yea that was a thought I had as well. I do think the hole cutting is a solution, could be tricky getting it right the first time
@kiDchemical Жыл бұрын
How well do those pusher type whoops crash flip?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Pretty normally in my experience. It likely helps as the battery is still on the bottom
@kiDchemical Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPVthanks!
@JayJayNapalan Жыл бұрын
Will they be selling just the frame separately?? I can't find it on the site
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I don't have that information. But I have seen their other quad frame available separately. I suspect the frame will be available after the first run or two of making bnf.
@user-qx7yu8lp2s 8 ай бұрын
Can I use this for a freestyle drone? I think it is quite fast
@NickBurnsFPV 8 ай бұрын
yes, freestyle or racing, pretty much all quads will do both. At the top levels of fpv the type will make a difference but for most of us its just a matter of flight desires and our own skill set.
@justainchoe6141 Жыл бұрын
1002 is a great motor to upgrade our common 0802 builds to HD. I’m using 1002 22000kv with the meteor 65pro frame and 450mah battery with WalkSnail, and it has good power and flight-times.
@mercurymoyes4018 Жыл бұрын
If its cheap lol nz dollars are double and shipping is a killer, don't understand why a drone can't deliver a drone cheaper than a ship!
@Mupshot Жыл бұрын
Should have a red and gray foam pad. Would be better
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
can foam be dyed?
@ruddig Жыл бұрын
these drones are getting to expensive, to many a guy on a budget just cant keep up, they are turning them out so quick, it was just a few years ago we were all flying brushed motors.. lol thanks nick you are the best
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
The analog version isn't to bad at $119 (actually kinda surprised it's not more), but yes hd adds another $100+ which can be rough.
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, like 8 years or more ago. Time flies, Bro... Lol
@ElChingonFPV 11 ай бұрын
I started out on the Mobula 7 HD. Wondering if Nick or anyone else here can offer their opinion about whether it is easier or harder than the Mobula for someone building up their skills.
@NickBurnsFPV 11 ай бұрын
easier or harder to fly? I would think this is easier to fly as the center of mass is closer together and the difference in age with advancements in betaflight and components they all respond better.
@ElChingonFPV 11 ай бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV Thanks for insight.
@richardmcguigan1382 10 ай бұрын
So cool I wish I could fly like that. Sadly I'm giving up im jot getting any better and I broke all my drones and broke them worse trying to fix them.smh.
@NickBurnsFPV 10 ай бұрын
Any simulator time?
@ChrisCroft77 Жыл бұрын
Hay Nick what do think is best choice for HD whoop currently? (Walksnail & HDZero)?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Walksnail if image quality and penetration is top priority, HDZero if latency and slightly lower weight.
@ChrisCroft77 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV I have both systems I was more looking for a particular whoop to get then decide if I want the HdZero or Walksnail version as I never noticed the latency. I do have the Mobula6 HdZero and pretty unpowered and was looking for something with more power for igow etc.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisCroft77 If we move up to 40mm props and 75mm frame we will give much more performance. Otherwise we can go with 25000kv motors on the mobula6 and also run biblade props on those 25000kv motors. The mobula 7 would be a good one to look at, I believe there is both versions.
@shattereddnb3268 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting one! How does it compare to a Tiny Hawk2?
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
Completely different product. Plus, tinkhawk 2 uses proprietary parts. You must buy them from Emax. I never buy quads that use proprietary parts. They only use those so you HAVE TO BUY THEM FROM THEM! Which sucks.
@shattereddnb3268 Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 I´m very familiar with the Tiny Hawk range, I´m wondering about how they feel to fly, they do have a similar design
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
@@shattereddnb3268 NO
@imothy Жыл бұрын
they need a walksnail version. You mention finding that crash footage is harder because of turtle mode, with walksnail its easy, because each time you disarm it creates a new video file!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
They have a walksnail version. I opted for HDzero, I have had a high number of walksnail whoops on the channel, wanted to change things up a bit. Is there a change we have to make to have disarm/arm start a new file? Or is that goggles DVR specific. I have found walksnail goggle dvr footage doesn't sync well with flight audio camera. I haven't found a fix for that issue.
@imothy Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV I have the walksnail VRX, i'm not sure how it works for the goggles. But when I arm/disarm it creates a new file on the VRX and the VTX/DVR.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@imothy I will have to investigate. Might not work for me using the flight audio camera to sync the files.
@highestvirtue1892 Жыл бұрын
does this have video stabilization for cinematic flying outdoors?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Not built in. We would need to put the video through something like gyroflow.
@highestvirtue1892 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV but it looks very smooth in your youtube video? Did you do that before posting?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@highestvirtue1892 No. I don't do any post flight video stabilization. For review purposes everyone needs to see how it is and if they want to manipulate the video after that is there choice.
@user-yk1cw8im4h Жыл бұрын
Do u fly in air mode?
@bertbeinaaf8314 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he always flies in air/acro mode
@ronsone8373 Жыл бұрын
What batterys are you guys running on this thing?
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I used the batteries in the video if that helps :)
@ronsone8373 Жыл бұрын
Was looking for banggood or Alie alternatives 😅 this is by far my favourite neighborhood flyer ❤
@mercurymoyes4018 Жыл бұрын
Yewww! Man you are soo rapid, hey flying inside is a challenge for me, I kinda want to blame my thawk2 but that's what bad tradesmen do blame the tools lol this maybe on the list , heavy handles wind right? & also how does this compare to the emax tinyhawk2 whoop? But most important how much does this whoop cost? And do you want to sell this to me
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I don't sell quads, there is a link in the video description to the manufacturers shop as well as any other shops that carry the product. I wouldn't fly it in heavy wind. My example has gusts of winds around 10-11mph which does push us around some as expected when flying something that is all up 50 grams.The TH2 can run both 1 and 2s, so it will be more responsive on 2s but not as responsive as this on 1s.
@mercurymoyes4018 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks nick that's right your the giveaway what you got for free thankyou sir for being an actual good dude not just one for views! So I'll keep viewing and cheers for the th2 info I'm still yet to hot glue my LEDs as you said in your old video , I'll try to do before it gets cut off for tomorrow mornings flight I'm praying for no wind , oh and have you ever heard of a product by CRC called soft seal ,I bought a can and want to spay it on as a cheap and easy conformal coating? Should I give it ago ? Also I'm sure my hawk flies better after I sprayed the heck outta it with contact cleaner or was it I hadn't flown for 4 days and it just felt good!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@mercurymoyes4018 I I am not familiar with soft seal. I suggest doing a test spray, to make sure it dries dry and not tacky or sticky. Also don't spray it inside of any connectors, that could cause connection issues on reassembly.
@mercurymoyes4018 Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV thanks nick I'll do my test ...I've got a bad feeling it maybe sticky agghh it was 30 nzd I could of bought some conformal coating almost with that ,fingers crossed it drys dry I'll get back to you with my tests as if lazy like me and want a quick spray fix this would be epic easy and fast no tearing things down brushing and dabbing etc although all this would be worth it I'm sure to save a quad from the dreaded dew!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@mercurymoyes4018 The problem with sticky is it will collect debris and make a mess. Could also create soldering issues.
@geraldcoonsis6852 Жыл бұрын
Looks a little like the geprc tinygo.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
There are some similarities.
@pcdoc2000 Жыл бұрын
Battery restoring to 3.5V only means they are not completely dead, but doesn´t really maintain battery life. If you really care about battery health you should try to never bring them below 3.3V IN FLIGHT! Drawing (too) many amps might temporarily bring them way below 3.3V, damaging the battery, but restoring to 3.5V or above when there is no draw after the flight. It will not immedieately kill the battery, but it will shorten the life and will weaken the battery noticable. Most people don´t care about the life of a battery (which is sad), but they do care about punch and they will lose punch quickly when regularly brought under 3,3V
@manwithgutz Жыл бұрын
I am facing rx loss on elrs bought the hdzero version
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
show any stick movement when plugged in and looking at betaflight?
@manwithgutz Жыл бұрын
@@NickBurnsFPV the receiver tab the quad keep turning non stop ..
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
@@manwithgutz The channel map needs to match the radio. The channel map is on the right side of the receiver page of betaflight
@bluefpv3263 Жыл бұрын
are you recording that with the goggles? the videon quality looks super nice im jealous
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
Huh? Super nice? Watch the outdoor video and look at how it looks out of focus all the time. How it looks fuzzy and like it's trying to focus constantly but never settling in true clear focus. It's awful. That's the problem with HDZero. You fly just 50 feet from yourself and this is what you can expect! If he tried flying across the left hand side neighbors fence, down by the creek, then tried flying around the neighbors house, it would go total colored sparklies and probably Rainbow screen of death ☠️ and he couldn't make it. Not even around the neighbor right next door! Penetration is worse than analog. I just do not understand why so many people like HDZero! In many cases it's worse than plain ole analog! 🫣😢
@bluefpv3263 Жыл бұрын
@@KOrnhOliO1 to me it looked better than analog not sure about the penetration i guess analog can have more cause you can get stronger outputpower but for a tinywhoop i guess it doesnt make much of a difference im flying analog myself cause im poor so i stood out to me that it looked better at least inside it did penetration inside wasnt bad either considering he was flying on different floors
@KOrnhOliO1 Жыл бұрын
@@bluefpv3263 Yes, indoor was better. Nick has said in different videos that he specifically sits in that exact chair because it centers him in his flying area. He's right in the middle of where he flies in the basement too. Smart!
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Yes flight video is from the HDZero goggles. ScoOt has a strong preference :)
@johnnyhotpants100 Жыл бұрын
Nick I love you bro but me wallet hates you. Every time I watch you.... got to buy it lol😀
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Send my regards to your wallet :)
@cccagley5276 Жыл бұрын
20 second speed run = 20 second battery, apparently. You were WAY up on the throttle per the OSD.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
Yea hit 90 on the throttle value. If we back off the voltage comes back up but I suspect at that rate we probably only get a 90 second flight
@BumbleBeeFPV Жыл бұрын
Very good review. Are you willing to share your rates? I love indoor flying my betaflight M85X with vista and I just bought a M85hdzero, but I am still not entirely happy with my rates. I cannot find a setting a setting that gives me enough precision for quick proximity flying and gap chasing and at the same time doing precise but quick rolls and flips. If the super rates are high enough for the rolls I am losing a lot of precision around the center. Using some expo was up until now not really the optimal solution. That's why I would really like to know your rates, because you manage to do both tasks almost perfectly. I am well aware, that practising is the key factor, but I think finding the correct rates is very important, too.😊
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
covered my rates here. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/otKge8aItt6coWw.html
@MrMartinRome Жыл бұрын
Adding HD sounds like an afterthought. What a pain having to take it all apart to update or download video.
@NickBurnsFPV Жыл бұрын
I thought it was more a limit of the design intent. They have camera holes for both the hdzero nano and walksnail camera, so that was thought through. They did add some rubber o rings to vibration isolate the AIO from the frame and vtx. But yea, repairs are going to be less friendly than our traditional whoop setups.
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