Betfair REFUSED to Payout £600M Liability - Gambling Stories

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@GGeloRob
@GGeloRob Жыл бұрын
If I was Betfair no way I would be paying out 600M.
@mysticsoulz638
@mysticsoulz638 Жыл бұрын
ti agree...they only made 603 million this year go easy on them
@Secret19977
@Secret19977 Жыл бұрын
Should be required by law
@user-vy2oq4ck2r
@user-vy2oq4ck2r 3 ай бұрын
Shouldn't have offended if they couldn't pay it's not honest.
@DIRTI3CHRI5
@DIRTI3CHRI5 Жыл бұрын
if the customer doesnt have the funds to lay it, how on earth can they pay it out. betfair have nothing to do with the wins/losses of exchange bets. the exchange was broken, the customer laid £21m with only £1k in their account. the site was broken, so they have to void the market. nothing outrageous or deceptive here imo.
@dancingbrave7514
@dancingbrave7514 Жыл бұрын
You try laying something without the funds, try it one hundred million times good luck with that. Sorry it was a glitch haha just a publicity scam.
@BenBen-yx6ug
@BenBen-yx6ug Жыл бұрын
Someone near me tourched a bookies as they refused pay out ,
@johnristheanswer
@johnristheanswer Жыл бұрын
Did they use a martch to start the fire ?
@BenBen-yx6ug
@BenBen-yx6ug Жыл бұрын
@@johnristheanswer unsure what he burnt it down using just dont blame the man for doing it
@dancingbrave7514
@dancingbrave7514 Жыл бұрын
That's way over the top setting a fire, a betting associate of mine once won £15,000 with a well known high street bookmaker on a 7 horse super heinz. They then said ''the odds on 4 of the winners were in correct and he received only £9,000 odd. He then paid someone to super glue the locks on the doors of the shops in the area on Grand National eve, causing a 3 hour delay of opening why they waited for a locksmith. Equaling a lot of lost take as customers went to a nearby rival shop instead.
@billycasper289
@billycasper289 Ай бұрын
​@@dancingbrave7514 that's genius
@BkWDrums
@BkWDrums Жыл бұрын
I think it was very optimistic to think this would've ever been paid out. But imagine what would've happened if it weighed in light 😂
@Vile_old_Bastard_3545
@Vile_old_Bastard_3545 Жыл бұрын
That is what I thought straight away. There would be an investigation for race fixing straight away because it would be so obvious. To say that it was a coincidence when hardly no horse ever weighs in underweight nowadays is laughable.
@tomjones9934
@tomjones9934 Жыл бұрын
If you are backing a horse at 29 with a clear lead and a few hundred yards to run, you know there is an error. While most of your bookie vids show them up for what they really are, in this case however most fair minded people would or should side with Betfair. If people have lost money through arbitrage bets that is a risk they have chosen to take.
@kingcrimson5167
@kingcrimson5167 Жыл бұрын
Thank me when Wolverhampton wins today
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Betfair is an exchange, this sort of thing happens in play all the time. I'm not sure you could say it was an obvious error. Last week someone backed a horse at 1.03 early in the morning for a lot, should the entire market be void? Was a daft mistake to make! Inplay bettors often make these mistakes in the home straight too...
@paulrichards6894
@paulrichards6894 Жыл бұрын
@@CaanBerryProTrader betfair cheated me out of £1300...... they wanted me to update my ID.......everything i sent them wasn't good enough quality in their opinion.....asked for my money.............i waited ......then contacted them and they said the money was put in my account on the 15th. december .......i have no internet banking so my wife went to the bank for a written statement but the money had not gone in.......contacted betfair who said the money had gone in and i should contact the bank....the bank said the money had not gone in....now Betfair won't answer any correspondence..........
@Shaunlunn81
@Shaunlunn81 Жыл бұрын
Look here’s how I think with this ,lets be honest if a horse had came from the sky and beat it on the line would betfair be giving the 20+ million bk 2 the punter if there was a technical error I very much dowt it Do u? and they would never tell u there was a problem then in 1st place . End of day if u have never started gambling don’t ever do it , and if u do place a bet either way until the money is in ur bank it’s never safe ..
@paulcook7426
@paulcook7426 Жыл бұрын
@@CaanBerryProTrader Playing devil's advocate here, but could the individual punter here play the "palpable error" on an occasion like this. And again anyone laying off elsewhere would be screwed.
@PaulioBee
@PaulioBee Жыл бұрын
Having watched a few of these videos now, it's clear to me that anyone who spots a pricing/technical error favourable to the punter and dives in can expect the inevitable brick wall put up after the event. Probably best to stick with successful trading strategies and avoid believing that corporations will honour any bets unfavourable to them as a consequence of their own error.
@BkWDrums
@BkWDrums Жыл бұрын
Also at 3:10, "no hand in trading the markets"... Many would beg to differ
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Lots of people say things about this sort of stuff. Leaves you wondering at the least.
@cryptoinsidersimon
@cryptoinsidersimon Жыл бұрын
Betfair running bots to take money from their own punters? Who else is going to be putting £600m bets on horses in-play.
@Squilpy
@Squilpy Жыл бұрын
Banger vid Bro!
@wildcatchamp7354
@wildcatchamp7354 Жыл бұрын
Realistically, nobody seriously thought that £600m would be paid out due to a software malfunction, did they? I've criticised them when they've made unfair decisions that cost me, but anyone thinking they'd cover this from their own pockets needs their head examined.
@PhantomPlayin
@PhantomPlayin Жыл бұрын
Betfair refused to pay me out when my prize pinball landed In 100 pounds so I wouldn't put this past them lmfao.
@barryredmond9929
@barryredmond9929 Жыл бұрын
Always with the small print and T&C's!!!
@jamesmacabre4804
@jamesmacabre4804 Жыл бұрын
thank you and new subscribed to your channel
@curtisj2165
@curtisj2165 Жыл бұрын
Gambling has became far too complicated for me to understand
@paulshuttleworth2850
@paulshuttleworth2850 Жыл бұрын
Great article with the smarties getting caught. A question on a different subject n hoping u or any subscribers might know. I live in NSW Aussie n can’t seem to find an online booking agent to take bets about 4 days ahead of race day. I travel a lot n would like to place a few bets prior to travel but can’t seem to find one. I notice Sports bet n others show fluctuations that indicate betting movements from a Wednesday for racing on a Saturday but those agents don’t offer fixed betting that far in advance. Do u know of any that I could open an account with. ? Thanks Paul
@25109954
@25109954 Жыл бұрын
I do wonder if they provide liquidity or what sort of relationship there is between the betting exchanges and the main liquidity providers? Like this "error" was it really an error on the part of a liquidity provider rather than Betfair? Was this a feature on the part of Betfair? For example, if someone were to provide liquidity to multiple markets on Betfair, inc lay bets, you'd have to lock up a lot of cash, they know liquidity providers make consistent profits - did they allow some liquidity providers to actively trade without having to put up the funds theoretically required to cover all their positions? If that were the case and some "fat finger" type error occurred on the part of the liquidity provider then that could explain how they allowed those bets and resulting liability to be matched I guess.
@zzhughesd
@zzhughesd Жыл бұрын
As you always say Caan. Never in-play !!!!! Always green up before. That 29 decimals to lay exposure mistake one hell of a mistake. As long as was a mistake ??????? My guess is maybe was a bot error and as such all bets should be void. BUT…. But. This is where arbitrage across same bets different platforms companies seriously dangerous. Not a good outcome. Did you see it on day Caan ?
@goodtips8973
@goodtips8973 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much they make a year from freezing accounts. They are good at this
@grahammccready2647
@grahammccready2647 Жыл бұрын
if they had been in the game for while they must have suspected getting paid out was not going to be strightforward. as the old saying goes "if it seems too good to be true it probably is."
@Jcecil17
@Jcecil17 Жыл бұрын
Cena squirrel outside while it's snowing on a tree might be a sign about a squirrel amount.
@amc8313
@amc8313 Жыл бұрын
Watching your videos is exactly what I closed all my betting accounts....the whole industry is bent.....the bookies are just lawful criminals with some their antics at this point...punter looses= bookies win ..... punter wins= bookies cry foul and rip off punter
@londoninhd4430
@londoninhd4430 Жыл бұрын
i do 20 leg accas and bet 10p.. my big win is coming soon
@Elliot-T
@Elliot-T Жыл бұрын
If you're laying off liability after you've seen the horse cross the finish line in 1st, then you're too risk adverse to be a successful gambler.
@josephdesouza5457
@josephdesouza5457 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a big gambler, I love your vids , Keep it up dude
@Researchthejoos
@Researchthejoos Жыл бұрын
Starr gambling big then
@Stl71
@Stl71 Жыл бұрын
I thought that in betfair, it is bettor vs bettor, that back and lay. Or maybe not?
@palletseating6692
@palletseating6692 Жыл бұрын
I was on it for a ton, couldn’t believe that price in running , never thought I wud get paid like , felt great at the time tho 😂
@grimacemcdonald1
@grimacemcdonald1 Жыл бұрын
What type of person backs 28/1 a 1.01 and lays the other side?! Had they stuck the bet rather than tried to be clever they would have been quits
@shedboy18
@shedboy18 Жыл бұрын
Now the rules are changed to not let falling horses to remount. What happens if everyone of the four runners fall? No winning horse?
@normanno8514
@normanno8514 Жыл бұрын
the question is of course - how do you bet with money you dont have ?
@g__o__l__d__6673
@g__o__l__d__6673 Жыл бұрын
Mrs betfairs wages this year :(
@JonJon-rj6xo
@JonJon-rj6xo Жыл бұрын
is arbing between BF and BD feasible?
@joebidenhairsnifferandfing3756
@joebidenhairsnifferandfing3756 Жыл бұрын
They were insider trading on the 2020 US election also.
@harrycross3467
@harrycross3467 Жыл бұрын
Glitch just return the stake n send a tin of Quality Street for the inconvenience..💸👍🏻
@nmsports01
@nmsports01 Жыл бұрын
I'm currently waiting on £240 from betfair. Won it on the boxing day fixtures and they have blocked my account from withdrawing. They say they are protecting me from money laundering. Waiting for an email now from their team
@krilin4652
@krilin4652 3 ай бұрын
Did you got ur money?
@mrcalvados1
@mrcalvados1 Жыл бұрын
what about the foggy day in fairyhouse when solowhit came from the clouds to win with tom doyle ? can you tell that story?
@smith077906
@smith077906 Жыл бұрын
Never lay off a winning bet or a value bet as 1, You are paying commission again 2, Value bet might become void
@adobe3910
@adobe3910 Жыл бұрын
How much is the premium charge?
@msimpson7910
@msimpson7910 Жыл бұрын
Similar thing happened to me on Betfair exchange a few years ago - granted expected winnings much lower. I placed a e/w Canadian bet at a rather routine evening fixture at Wolverhampton, and all five won. Expected winnings when I placed the bet was £2,400 and looking forward to dumping that back on the debit card. Only got back £143.90. Because that's all the punter had in their account. BFair refused to cough up the rest, and I even recieved no response when I helpfully pointed out it's software should only match and place punter v punter, when the expected payout of the bet matches and or exceeds the balance held in the other account.. Now only place Sportsbook bets with Betfair and take their money instead..
@jimwatson6833
@jimwatson6833 Жыл бұрын
Can't lay a bet unless the money is in ur account so they have lied to u
@Vaibanez1
@Vaibanez1 Жыл бұрын
This story makes absolutely no sense
@bellevuedog
@bellevuedog Жыл бұрын
You cant bet canadians on the exchange, stop making shit up
@danielsampson7530
@danielsampson7530 Жыл бұрын
How did you place an each way bet on the exchange?
@paulmorgan8426
@paulmorgan8426 Жыл бұрын
This is why I dont bet or trade on sports anymore. Its not worth it.
@heffo67
@heffo67 Жыл бұрын
0.22 I have been to Leopardstown on many occasions and I never even noticed that it had a dirt track. Seriously, why use a clip of a racecourse and not only do you not show the racecourse in question but don't even bother to pick one on the same continent???
@tomleach1428
@tomleach1428 Жыл бұрын
Betfair sports book probably the worst prices on horses in the UK !!
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Fair
@eightw5783
@eightw5783 Жыл бұрын
Ironically this video was (for me) preceded by a gambling ad.
@benmcnicol2056
@benmcnicol2056 Жыл бұрын
Hi Caan, can you do a video on the best type of bet for punters?
@empty-ed
@empty-ed Жыл бұрын
It’s obvious It’s a VALUE bet
@peterscott5814
@peterscott5814 Жыл бұрын
Someone commented that if you loose £5k betfair should contact you. not sure if that's a true statement It took them days to pay out £20k for that jumps race that happened last season. The groundsmen caused confusion by walking across the track. all the runners throught they were admitting a fence so they rounded it except for one runner who jumped it One savvy guy emptied his account as a back bet because he spotted what happened. The result was settled. every horse except one was disqualified betfair eventually paid
@jimwatson6833
@jimwatson6833 Жыл бұрын
He wouldn't able to lay that bet unless he had that money in the account though
@dancingbrave7514
@dancingbrave7514 Жыл бұрын
So obvious it's all bs, no publicity is bad.
@andrewgould9395
@andrewgould9395 Жыл бұрын
Blatant insider trading error...there is no way betfair would void a bet for a "customers mistake", especially as this "error" wouldn't cost them a penny and would have actually made them money from commissions. A bet could never be placed by a punter if the funds aren't available (doesn't matter what software you are using) which further shows it couldn't have been one of their customers. Doesn't it seem strange that every exchange has the exact same odds, never any price variation between them which further proves they aren't just peer to peer and do in fact have insider trading to profit & manipulate the markets.
@paulcook7426
@paulcook7426 Жыл бұрын
I know this has never happened before this occasion, nor again since; but the bigger question here is "how on earth was this able to happen at all".
@dancingbrave7514
@dancingbrave7514 Жыл бұрын
It was just a publicity scam, you would never be able to lay anything without the full funds in your account. A glitch in the system lmfao🤣🤣🤣 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@scarfo
@scarfo Жыл бұрын
@@dancingbrave7514 Nah it's completely possible that one of their internal micro-services fucked up and kept telling the market that this random user could lay everyones bets. Software is complicated as fuck.
@harrycross3467
@harrycross3467 Жыл бұрын
Derby keep drawing 0-0, Fleetwood 1-1 and Swansea come back from a deficit at H/T to Win...(7-1,6-1,28/1) There's a £117 return for ya 10p bet..
@chad0x
@chad0x 7 ай бұрын
When something goes wrong, the company should not be held liable. I'm fine with that. Those tens of punters knew something was wrong, hoped to profit off it and failed to do so.
@tylerm2676
@tylerm2676 Жыл бұрын
Wtf has 21m sitting in there sports account...
@michaelkelly7882
@michaelkelly7882 Жыл бұрын
The greedy bastards got stung laying off this horse. 🤣🤣🤣 merry xmas I had the chance to back this horse at huge odds also but obviosly a horse trading at 20/1+ at the finishing line for millions was never going to be payed out.
@donatasbernotas1172
@donatasbernotas1172 7 ай бұрын
They can change the rules any second so no chance to prove something.
@nu43j3lly
@nu43j3lly Жыл бұрын
I'm a simple go to bookmakers put a line on kinda gambler? I've always known that gamblers=mugs. This is yet another example of why horse racing can never be trusted and why bookies in either Internet or racecourse can't ever be trusted? It took the government in 2020 to actually step in and stop mug gamblers opening credit cards ( I'm 1 of them ) and losing the limit online with no safety protection? Online betting companies provide racing with too much sponsorship to ever be held accountable, they have free will to make up rules as they go.
@Minister.
@Minister. Жыл бұрын
When William hill restricts you from using promotions such as 4 for free , how long does it take for your account to be able to use it , does anyone know ?
@dancingbrave7514
@dancingbrave7514 Жыл бұрын
You'll never be able to use anything once your account is restricted, just close the account as it'll never change.
@Minister.
@Minister. Жыл бұрын
@@dancingbrave7514 okay thanks
@paulshat573
@paulshat573 Жыл бұрын
Hypothetically, what would have happened if the jockey had fallen off before the line? Would Betfair have still voided it or would the layer been paid?
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Good question, no idea... you'd imagine they would want to avoid the media storm wouldn't you?
@paulshat573
@paulshat573 Жыл бұрын
@@CaanBerryProTrader probably not. Any free attention is better then none. Remember the paddy power rangers bet a few years back? Rangers to score before the 10 mins and they scored at 9.55. paddy dragged that out on social media before paying out
@hampsonpaul3531
@hampsonpaul3531 Жыл бұрын
Betfair is now a glorified bookmaker controlled by seeded money, way to efficient to be purely peer to peer. Just ask Paddy and Sky.... 🙃
@arthurpewtey
@arthurpewtey Жыл бұрын
I'd have said it was crystal clear this was an error. Did anyone REALLY think it wouldn't be voided? Suppose, instead of £600 million, they'd accrued a liability of £600 billion due to this rogue bot. If Betfair had had to pay out then, they'd have gone bankrupt and we'd all be moaning about that instead.
@Garycarlyle
@Garycarlyle Жыл бұрын
False equivlency, mate. It was dishonest of Betfair.
@dudebro3250
@dudebro3250 11 ай бұрын
It was an exchange bet that was player(s) against player(s). So how would they go out of business? All they were supposed to do is take 2/5/8% from the winning bettors.
@scottjefferies2256
@scottjefferies2256 8 ай бұрын
@@dudebro3250 The error was stipulated - the account holder had less than £1000 in the account therefore who would be paying out the £21 million pound liability. Clear error.
@Pvdtheking2k
@Pvdtheking2k Жыл бұрын
Well I gotta say it's an everyone sucks here moment. Betfair should have been made to pay the stakes that customers lost at the very least tho
@Vile_old_Bastard_3545
@Vile_old_Bastard_3545 Жыл бұрын
Don’t have bots placing silly bets for you in the background or if you are placing bets manually when this happens, use your common sense instead of being greedy. If they had put £50 on to win just over a grand then the loss would have been acceptable. Putting on tens of thousands to make millions is damn right greedy and stupid. Let that be a lesson to them. If it is too good to be true then it probably is. There are 20 born every minute.
@scottjefferies2256
@scottjefferies2256 8 ай бұрын
How would they lose if the market was voided? Literally a free hit - clutching to think you'd be paid though.@@Vile_old_Bastard_3545
@king_cj
@king_cj Жыл бұрын
Customer is always paying no mater what
@davidjones5980
@davidjones5980 Жыл бұрын
Dear Cann, I have just discovered your KZfaq videos. All the bookmakers on Trustpilot seem to have terrible ratting. As an amateur I currently have accounts with William Hill and Ladbrokes (low value bets), however, I would like you to tell me your recommendation, there is a lot of talk online of bookmakers refusing to pay out. Thanks in anticipation
@nickgangadis8679
@nickgangadis8679 Жыл бұрын
They’ve had their chance and they blew it. I’m back to forex.
@harry2.01
@harry2.01 Жыл бұрын
Ha, I remember this.
@harry2.01
@harry2.01 Жыл бұрын
Where did people think that the £600m would come from.
@harry2.01
@harry2.01 Жыл бұрын
The same people that laid dead horses.
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Maybe the top market maker?
@MrDouglasgama
@MrDouglasgama Жыл бұрын
the house never wants to lose
@MrDopeSmokes
@MrDopeSmokes Жыл бұрын
I could of won so much today if that jockey didn’t bloody fall! Just like a anniepower situation was he paid
@pm7775
@pm7775 Жыл бұрын
That's the DOM
@paulterry7672
@paulterry7672 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tried laying a bet without the funds no chance of that bet being placed this explanation is a joke for me betfair insider trading bot much more likely.
@temirlanadilbek8795
@temirlanadilbek8795 2 ай бұрын
Beyond rigged. stick to sports. my winning horse was not paid out because they say the jockey was overweight by 2 pounds. don't they scale them before the start. they got excuses for every fk up they make.
@georgebuller1914
@georgebuller1914 Жыл бұрын
Good ol' 'modern technology' eh? LOL
@PW-om1ds
@PW-om1ds 7 ай бұрын
If you've got £250m, why bother...?
@alberttanner408
@alberttanner408 6 ай бұрын
They took the bet Payout Criminals
@scottmills4401
@scottmills4401 Жыл бұрын
Is there a Caan Berry email address?
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Yes but we don't post it publicly because of the bots/spam. Take a look at the about tab on this KZfaq channel or the contact us page on the website.
@manchester1972
@manchester1972 Жыл бұрын
It's obviously a betfair owned bot that went mad...you are 25 years behind the times mate....betfairs done...listen years ago I will give you a forinstance a seller at Lingfield years ago 3.5 million would of been matched on the race..now you would be lucky if 200k...The games done my friend. OK you are trying to grab a living,fair play but I cannot see how you are winning. I personally know 8 people who were in the top 30 traders on betfair. They are either skint or retired. You are an absolute million these days..wouldn't mind a chat and a beer one day mate...I'm not digging you out but it's all crap pal.
@guardiology3119
@guardiology3119 Жыл бұрын
Your thumbnails are so gimpish
@leehorton8365
@leehorton8365 Жыл бұрын
Jeez. This is an 11 year old ‘story’ havent you got anything more relevant to post?
@CaanBerryProTrader
@CaanBerryProTrader Жыл бұрын
Lee, don't you ever have anything positive to say? I recognise your name because all you do is moan, complain and criticize - yet you still come back. It's very relevant, being the same time of year it was posted, the same race being run again, Betfair still being in operation and content other people have asked for more of... sorry if that's not to your taste.
@hdrax5796
@hdrax5796 Жыл бұрын
This is an old non story 🥱💤 People are deluded if they think their bets should of stood 🥴
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