If that's true, they only said it in the very last minute of their relationship

"saying something stupid like i love you"

@@lidianepeixoto9431 that song is so good

They do say it, Jimmy says it when Kim is breaking up with him and Kim says it back but with, "I love you too, but so what?" But i do find it interesting that is the only time I can think of them saying it.

​@@timfleszewski8666 this video came out before that scene, before season 6 aired. so the commenter is correct

Sounds like you wouldn't want to think about that. But, well shoot, I believe I would.

Better peg Saul

This is both amusing me and turning me on

hey now, speak for yourself 👁👁

@VHA Markova Kim feet

Very good point, and something I meant to mention!

Reminds me of that episode of Bojack horseman where Bojack calls the newspaper company to try to cancel his subscription, if you've seen it you'll know what I'm talking about

Wait, when does this happen?

This is gold, never caught that

Exactly, the requirement to talk about his dead brother as a measure of sincerity is batshit.

Reminds me of l'etranger where the narrator was unable to sort out his feelings regarding his mother's death, and the people around him took that as evidence of his insanity, with dire consequences. All because he couldn't be arsed to make a big show of how devastated he was.

That part is when I have to suspend my disbelief and think that this show “is just fictional” because I don’t think any law committee in the real world would ask a guy to relive his traumatic experience about a dead family member and reject him a job if he didn’t talk about it.

That's kind of what makes BCS what it is. Jimmy is always given two paths and is usually dragged down to the one where he's closer to become full Saul Goodman. Most of his choices are made in a scenario where choosing to do "the right thing" is barely an option. So, he ultimately accepts he is what he is and tries to take the most advantage he can of his skills. BCS is all about Jimmy and Mike accepting who they are: not bad people, but far from "good guys".

@@Henrique.Souza0601 yeah, in my eyes it seems like they learn how to play the cards they have been dealt. They try to accept who they are and try to make it work in life.

That's a good point. I've been rewatching it the series (now on S307) and realise that I've never seen them eat together. But at this point they're not living together either. When they do live together, I'm sure I remember them cooking together. But I'll find out in later episodes.

This is such a a seemingly small detail but you're so right! This is brilliant.

I've realised that they don't seem to cook much in the evening, but Jimmy is about making breakfast in the morning I think, esp when Kim had her car accident.

What a crazy detail

hooooly i never picked up on this!

She also pushes Saul in a direction she deems believable like in the diner were she tells him what his character should drive and have an office like.

@An Meme lovely summation of the characters xoxox

Sometimes I relate to Jimmy to the point of pain where it feels like he's making the wrong decision knowingly because making the right decision is too scary. That was my whole childhood. Its sad that Saul never gave himself a chance to really process. I like to think the whole show is Gene doing just that, taking the time to go over everything in his head for the first time in between his fake life.

Yep. Jimmy was considering therapy, but he wanted an excuse to not go, and in that moment he got to convince himself that therapy is for "sheep/suckers"

Nah it's because it's HOWARD telling him

I saw it as “Howard’s clearly suffering because he’s working through it and I know that would happen to me when I open up so I’m not even gonna start”

More like most stressful, if I had a friend in a relationship this broken I'd walk away. I can't deal with that level of negligence

@@thelazarousyea I don’t get how ppl see this as a good portrayal of love lol

​​@@pencil6965it's not a *good* portrayal of *love* . It's a *good portrayal* of love.

@@TheNheg66 true I guess. It was just sad and aggravating to me more than anything

Exactly this. I think neither of them knew how much they loved one another until the end. 😭

I agree because he said he would be practicing under a different name, not legally changing his name.

actually in the BB/BCS universe, DBA = dont be an asshole. It's a non refundable fee as stated by Jane in BB

@@Sthefano103 you must realize that an acronym of letters may have more than one meaning. Just put into a search engine, any three letters at random and see how many meanings they come back with for you.

@@Sthefano103 besides, that was DBAA.

@@msvitles I’m liking all these replies because it reminded me of DBAA & Jesse and jane’s story and BB season 2 in general

Aye, SPOILERS for Season 601, but in the flashforward at the beginning, his prescription medication is actually labeled as "Saul Goodman"

It’s called a DBA. Doing Business As. Much like the fee Jesse paid to rent from Janes Dad. DBA. Don’t Be An Asshole. Everything on this show has a parallel somewhere.

@@DocMortsnarg I know, I think the current working theory is that he changes his legal name down the line

Neat I didnt even know that was something you could do.

@@DocMortsnarg If he doesn't use health insurance, then maybe he can use whatever name he chooses. He's paying cash.

Yes

Justice Matters Most

*finger guns*

@@user-ex7yq6xq9s Just Make Money

Saul good

it's all in the breadcrumbs, really love this series thanks!

Sure, Chuck's letter was sincere and loving...in Chuck's toxic, abusive, insecure own way. That is to say, Chuck had room for fraternity with Jimmy only so long as he could consider Jimmy inferior. After the fact, and Jimmy having full knowledge of his older brother's inferiority complex, it was to Jimmy nothing more than a posthumous slap to the face.

Then that makes her quite villainous, isn’t it? She doesn’t feel that it’s her own fault. She will just end up like Chuck then, always blaming Jimmy for her own fuck ups.

She doesn't blame Jimmy. She realises that they're not good together and needs to leave for her own sanity and hopefully his. Didn't quite turn out that way for him though............

Update: she takes the fall and her share of responsibility.

Holy shit, you were right in the money

For better or for worse, they are perfect for each other. Thats something nobody can deny

Yes very toxic

@@krypticunlimited6925 And that's why it was painful to see Jimmy throwing it away by accepting the 7 million $ bale deal.

facts

Hard agree. I think that’s explicitly what the show is trying to say. Howard was a complete and utter wreck, but eventually will be better. Jimmy only witnesses the wreck and knows that while he may be suffering at least Nimmy can fake being happy.

Yep, and it's interesting that once he sees Howard doing a lot better Jimmy doesn't re-evaluate his thoughts, he's put therapy completely out of his mind at this point. Instead he does his best to make Howard miserable again ... almost like (among other things) he's trying to reaffirm what he initially thought?

I laughed so hard when I saw that scene for the first time. Actually one of the funniest scenes on the show! I knew exactly what Jimmy was thinking.

@@PedanticPig Jimmy's after seeing Howard: " F--- that".

Yeah, definitely worth the effort. Cheers!

Yes 👏🏻 good one , it made me smile

I agree. The title of BCS episodes often refers to more than one plot. Nacho helping the assassins was "something unforgivable" to Lalo, but I think Kim plotting against Howard might end up being "something unforgivable" to herself. I think Jimmy's moment of clarity in asking "Am I bad for you?" is going to haunt Kim as she sees how being around Jimmy unlocks the worst parts of her.

@@mranthonymills Ding Ding you really got it right. Last episode was so sad…

@@mranthonymills The saddest part of their break-up was seeing how Kim was so broken that she could not make a simple decision about anything. When the girls at the lunch table ask her if she and her new boyfriend had seen a movie, how did they like it, and she said "he might have", or the simple tuna salad for her sandwich, and she couldn't decide if it was okay to use Miracle Whip instead of mayonaise... She had been so bright and clever before and now she couldn't rely on her own skills to make any kind of decision.

amazing theory 👍

Agreed . Also would be convenient for the Deaf / Hard of Hearing !

hiii, neurodivergent person with terrible auditory processing here, totally agreed! i, too, would loveee subtitles. hell, hire me, i’ll write them out for ya!!!

That sounds like it sucks, I imagine you get worst of both deals (feeling emotionally dulled and overwhelmed).

"He always felt he wasn't good enough for Kim" as Lalo kept reminding him. He would then go on to do the same thing to Walt re: Skylar in BB.

🤷‍♂️

Its hilarious seeing you here, love your content so much. The DBD community dosent have someone as dedicated to the lore as you are

This wasnt the person i was expecting here

Totally agree!! 👍👍

i was right :)

Yeah this is honestly hard to get through now after this latest episode

yep

I took it as Jimmy finally taking Chuck's advice and stopping feeling sorry for being who he was. Chuck saying it finally gave him license to feel how he really felt, and he took the opportunity to pretty much completely stop caring about Chuck at all.

That’s how the role were reversed. Jimmy loved to use this as an excuse for his own actions. That is something Chuck had been against the whole time. Jimmy didn’t realize the magnitude of the situation until he met Lalo. Lalo is a Slippin’ Jimmy for Jimmy. He made Jimmy realized his own flaws in a physical form. He helped Lalo get away with murder with looking at the eyes of a crying victim’s mother. He almost died in the desert after the shootout. He drank his own piss and he nearly got Kim killed. That’s why this excuse didn’t work on him anymore. Kim, on the other hand, decided to let herself go this deep into a relationship with Jimmy and she finally tasted what it feels like to be Saul Goodman so she just let loose and became Slippin’ Kimmy, rationalizing anything that her or Jimmy will do no matter how unethical.

“Lalo is a slippin jimmy for jimmy”. Damn. I never thought about it like that

Yeah i lean a little more towards this interpretation. The letter Chuck wrote has a lot of implications and baggage relating to the relationship the brothers had, and it's hard to see it as being sweet or even caring on Chuck's part. We know from future events that Chuck's love and pride for his brother is conditional, and that many of the things he says in the letter no longer apply to Jimmy at all. Having Chuck's last words to Jimmy be 'youve never mattered much to me' probably didnt help things either

@@TheLetterH111 and some of that letter was such the opposite of what the audience saw happening between the brothers that as the audience it felt like something Chuck wrote to be mean and hurtful. "I'm proud to share a name with you" um no quite the contrary...

I’m not sure I agree that there was all that much sweetness to Chuck’s letter though. There’s a part in that scene where Jimmy reads something like “I remember how happy Mom was to bring you home from the hospital”-and Kim makes the slightest face at that, an almost involuntary reaction of confusion. And I felt myself make the same face upon rewatching it. Something about the letter felt strange. This was something he wrote to Jimmy in case of his death and there’s something so unsatisfying to the way that it’s written. It’s hard to place, but the disaffected reading Jimmy does to that letter, as tragic as that is, almost feels appropriate for its contents. i mean obviously, with how horrible Chuck was to Jimmy, it’s hard to trust he means anything he says in the letter-the recent trauma colors the thing in its entirety, which, maybe it should, because the resentment that came exploding out of chuck in the end feels like it was always there to some degree. and when reading that letter, whether there’s some real honest attempts to show love in his words, all you can imagine is a perfectly polite Chuck conducting himself and concealing his contempt with a tight smile. maybe the line about his mom being overjoyed bringing jimmy home from the hospital felt a bit off to Kim (and myself) because he’s relating solely his Mom’s happiness about jimmy’s existence and not necessarily his own. and i don’t think jimmy needs to hear from chuck how much his mom loved him-he needs to hear how much chuck loved him. if the nature of their relationship was different, maybe the letter would’ve come across as a bit sweeter. but it comes across to me as brief and weirdly polite and unreal. i gotta rewatch that scene again, but, that was the impression it left on me. regardless of whether it was written before chuck and jimmy really got into it with eachother and regardless of whether chuck had any ill intent writing the letter (and i dont think he really did)-it’s still just lacking something so vital. chuck had a horrible time being truly vulnerable and he had a huge amount of pride and it ruined him. it ruined his relationship with his wife. and it ruined his relationship with jimmy. god, to think, if he had just let jimmy join HHM and celebrate that sandpiper win with him… maybe it wouldn’t have been a perfect outcome or even the right fit for jimmy, but at least he wouldn’t have tried to sabotage him in such a deceitful way and just let him learn and grow as his own goddamn person. i mean, i know jimmy’s not perfect, but there was just no excuse for that absolute act of villainy.

i mean-this is all to say. i agree that jimmy is blocked emotionally here. and upon rereading my comment it sounds like we agree on the fact that there’s more to this letter than just being “nice” (as jimmy puts it) or sincere with that being really all there is to say (as WT puts it).

Unthinkable!

Very unlikely.....

But it was helping Howard. It takes time to do so. Going through emotional issues will feel bad at first before it begins to feel better.

Maybe with her studies, and work, she doesn't have time to meet people on the outside. However, when we first see her working so hard to find new business for HHM, she is combing through her own contacts, and there are really QUITE A FEW of them. So obviously she can make friends. She probably just doesn't let too many people close in to her life, due to feeling, perhaps, like a fraud ~ Everybody has just a touch of this, we show different faces or sides of our self to different people.

James*