Better LOC's? You decide. 6 More High-Low Line Output Converters tested

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Not all LOC's Are bad! Some are actually quite nice! I bought 6 more online (nothing was free) and decided to put them all to the test for both distortion and voltage output. I don't want to say anything bad about any of the products, i will just put it up on the screen (the input and output on scope and the DD-1+) and let you decide for yourself. If clean sounds are you goal, you should put some time and real thought into what you are doing. If clean sound is NOT your goal, turn it up to 11 and rock till those coils smoke. I really don't care what you do. I am just here to show you the difference.
Also, this is more proof the SMD DD-1 is superior to just using a scope. A low resolution, even high resolution single channel O-scope might have you thinking you have a clean wave when really it is distorted. With nothing to compare it to, how would you know? The DD-1 knows the difference! And you don't need 2 channels on the screen at the same time to see it.
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Do you really want to amplify garbage? if not, look for a quality LOC or other means of factory integration. Most of the time LOC's are a cheap and easy way to get some quick beat into your ride. But it don't have to be distorted! You can have easy and clean if you know what you are doing or know someone who does!
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@meade916 2 жыл бұрын

I forgot to add - the Kicker LOC (see link in description) is rated to take 50w. The "Best sound" LOC is also rated 50 watts. The Schoche is rated 80w. The Pac is 20 watts and i don't know about the Boss (it wasn't listed). The Audiocontrol LC2i can take a massive 400watts! (see link in the description). Thanks for watching if you did! Follow my IG channel here: instagram.com/meade916

@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix 2 жыл бұрын

I love my LC2i. I have a 2016 titan xd rinning. JBL 1001ez and 4 American bass xd844 8 inch subs. I removed the stock sub from under the passenger seat and was able to just tap into the amp harness and run the factory subwoofer speaker output to the LC2i.

@michaeldockery9937 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much again Steve for this awesome comparison between these things, definitely helps us pick and choose wisely!

@BigBoy74X 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Steve 1 quick suggestion for a video. For some of us deep in car audio. Believe or not, not all of know the names of all your terminals for +/ - . Including power +/- Thanks man! Keep up the good job

@xenaguy01 2 жыл бұрын

Let's not forget, the Kicker costs $20 on Amazon, while the LC2i costs $100. If your head unit is rated below 50 watts, you can save $80 by buying the Kicker unit, and get the same clean sound.

@MrSleepy2sleep 2 жыл бұрын

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@timmontanez3781 2 жыл бұрын

Again a man goes out of his way, spends his own money, and gives us content with real results.!! Thanks Steve.

@briansouth9325 2 жыл бұрын

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@billysimmons2432 2 жыл бұрын

SMD over here back on his grind pushing for that 1M play button. Keep the beat alive!

@hip_check 2 жыл бұрын

I have that exact Scosche LOC sitting in a box waiting for the rest of the parts for my F150 build. Thanks to this video, I am returning it and already ordered the Kicker. I would have never dreamed of the crappy signal output. Thanks, sir.

@fullpeladas 2 жыл бұрын

The kicker is good . But if the factory radio has bass roll off meaning radio volume, pass half bass starts to subtract. That's how your woofer would be amplify. Solution Get the lc2i to put back the bass roll off . Enjoy your build 😊

@MrDopey32 2 жыл бұрын

The LC2i at best buy is only $100.00 I was just looking at it yesterday.

@meade916 2 жыл бұрын

@@fullpeladas unless you tap into a full range speaker....

@bigchungus1378 Жыл бұрын

@@meade916 Can I tap into my stock subwoofer?

@uptown1317 9 ай бұрын

@@fullpeladasI don't understand. I have a 2015 Honda Accord with no factory amp and sub just door speakers and rear speakers. Would I be good with the Kicker?

@samsaverino8159 2 жыл бұрын

This dude is my hero. I wish I could afford to have him do a system for me.

@shawnsanderson3695 2 жыл бұрын

Me too bro. But then where's the fun in that.

@labbeaj 2 жыл бұрын

I just used some old roach clips (alligator clips) to connect the L.O.C to the factory speaker wire posts. Really easy.

@joshc6080 2 жыл бұрын

Kicker still living loud and clean😁

@gtstanton9785 Жыл бұрын

The time the money and the passion you but into your channel and car audio in general is greatly appreciated. You reignited my passion that I had back in the early 90s! Thanks again Steve

@abelcorrea8881 2 жыл бұрын

For those like me running a factory unit. 2019 GM SIlverado. The lc7i was able to be turned almost all the way up before getting 5v. I was running an PAC-LP7 (did a great job) but the LC7i...HOLY CRAP it made a big difference. Not only louder and cleaner but my subs are now perfectly synced with the door speakers as I turn up the volume. Big credit to SMD for letting me know my system still had way more potential.

@superchile9640 2 жыл бұрын

Already knew the LCI 2 was legit but was surprised the Kicker was as good as it was even with a remote wire. Wow

@CactusJack252 2 жыл бұрын

I have the kicker in my 2020 civic and i'm surprised at how good it works. If I planned on keeping the car I would have done the LCI 2.

@763KillerB 2 жыл бұрын

I’m just patiently waiting for the new smd bucket O’ bass install. Now that the Escalade is done and all 😂

@EvanField6380 2 жыл бұрын

That kicker at $30 is the best deal and I like the audio control because it brings back the bass that gets rolled off.

@ripperace 2 жыл бұрын

That Audio Control unit is the bomb for integrating aftermarket equipment into a factory stereo. I have the same unit for my F150, and I love it. Anything Audio Control puts out is guaranteed to be upper tier stuff. And for the cost, the unit Steve showed in the review is well worth the money.

@yankorestovic243 2 жыл бұрын

First time watcher and I’m glad I did! Because of This video, I’m getting a different LOC than what I bought. Rock 🤟 on!

@benb7102 2 жыл бұрын

Man it’s good to know the Kicker LOC I bought couple weeks ago for my Harley is decent. Thanks for the info Meade

@jlev505 2 жыл бұрын

I love all the audio control products I’ve ever bought. Right now I’m running the DM-810. Makes everything sound great! Thanks for the video.

@Bratrod85 2 жыл бұрын

I'm addicted to your channel, Steve! What a great dude, and content!

@gordonellisjr331 Жыл бұрын

I bought the Kicker unit right after watching this video. I will up grade to an Audio Control unit when I add my new speakers and a 4 channel amp but for now this is perfect to get my Mono amp and sub going in my 2020 Honda Civic. This video also helped me understand gain settings and distortion a little better as well. Thank you.

@kitkimbrough9441 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to show these comparisons!!...Keep on keeping on!!

@CWBchannel Жыл бұрын

Have used the kicker LOC (the only kicker product I’ve ever used lol) in about 3 installs, and they have worked great. No complaints whatsoever.

@jaydawg116 2 жыл бұрын

Just to avoid headache I stopped selling anything but audiocontrol LOCs in my shop altogether. I sleep better at night knowing my customer isn’t going to smoke their voice coil with what I install.

@basscaddy1449 Жыл бұрын

I am having trouble playing lows with the lc2i cuts everything off below 33 hertz at a 12 db/ octave so I ordered a nvx xbbr2 and the frequency response is 10 hertz and up

@MrJoey478 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve for this upload. I really appreciate it. I've been Brought my LC2I Pro, just haven't gotten around to installing it. I made the right choice. Thanks bro. Keep up the Good work bro! This is Joe from Dade County, Fl checking in.

@ryanschmidt2433 Жыл бұрын

Dude great video!! 👍 I bought that kicker loc about a month ago, stumbled on this video and was really really happy it tested so well.

@dionm.basssr.133 2 жыл бұрын

Steve thanks for keeping it CLEAN AND SIMPLE.....WITH EXTENDED EXPLANATIONS FROM TONY

@kylemick6978 2 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video. Thanks for the solid content. My wife wanted to add a small amp/sub to her factory stereo and LOCs are so hit or miss. This helped me decide on what LOC to use.

@jeremywilliams8558 2 жыл бұрын

Spreading facts not fiction! Keep up the great work Steve. Knowledge is power.

@TheTruthBeToId 2 жыл бұрын

When I was buying my system for my truck. I didn't know which one of those devices to buy, so I just decided to buy one that was from a reputable brand so I got a RockfordFosgate one and sounds nice, but... Apparently the old 09+ up F-150s are notorious for not having where to get a remote wire, so now thanks to this video I can buy that kicker one with the remote wire because when I forget to turn off the amp it drains my battery, it's happend three times already and in critical moments I needed my truck. Thanks for the informative video.

@rmblwgn 2 жыл бұрын

I can't tell you how helpful this was in putting a subwoofer into a coworkers g37. The kicker was the perfect solution for low level and turn on

@maufitted 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really impressed about the waves, such a great explanation really !! good job buddy !!!

@wtmf80 2 жыл бұрын

Man great video. I ran that kicker LOC in my Tahoe for awhile. It always did what it was supposed to do but nice to see it tested like this.

@Thatdude615 2 жыл бұрын

I'm so happy I have my kicker loc hooked up in my ILX...I bought it on ratings and BOOM. That's the real MVP at that price. Awesome review Steve 👍🏻

@Thatdude615 2 жыл бұрын

Btw...if they made dash kits for the ilx this wouldn't be the problem...not all of us have that luxury

@Genesis385 Жыл бұрын

I ended up getting the kicker LOC after watching this. Been working great since about April. 😎

@Giddyup0 6 ай бұрын

Thanx for your science and help , I had ordered a cheap eBay LOC and after watching this I’ve now ordered a KICKER LOC

@meade916 2 жыл бұрын

who wants to see the most in depth video about these LOC's that you have seen so far? I'm about to make someone look dumber than he already looks. I have the results back from very thorough AP (Audio Precision) testing. Some of you guys should probably start letting go of that dude's sack before i post it to save some face. lol SMH

@seniorxj2931 2 жыл бұрын

Now this I can't wait to see!!!

@JustEnufCustoms 2 жыл бұрын

Another great vlog Steve and Audio Control for the win. I use that same lc2i in my new 21 charger and it makes my little 300 watt lcs sundown 12's sound amazing. Cool stuff my guy have a great weekend ✌

@sheldoncooper2115 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for teaching greatness. I enjoy watching your content....I always learn something new.

@quagmire94 2 жыл бұрын

i like that your doing test on all kinds of brands now for science, hope these videos get more views then they have now because its more then just educational

@heethen112 2 жыл бұрын

I have been searching these exact loc all day..great video!!!

@jrockaz548 2 жыл бұрын

Kicker makes great stuff for the price point in my opinion

@Kot1026 Жыл бұрын

Mad respect for this content sir! I'm just in search of components for my car audio and this helped me a lot

@davntelisha19 2 жыл бұрын

That kicker was pretty good too

@imanir2522 Жыл бұрын

Some of you just want to complain. He stated multiple times that you can decide what's best for you. Just buy what works best for your system/budget and appreciate the time he spent doing this.

@incrediblehawks5300 2 жыл бұрын

The kicker kicked the loc ass

@droppinggears1464 2 жыл бұрын

My audio guy recommended the lc2i pro, for my 16 crew cab using bose. I am happy with my decision even more now, that the G.O.A.T tested it

@JoeWise-du1ho Ай бұрын

@meade916 been watching you since the begining , if im confused on something I come straight to Steve's videos, true champion in car audio!!!

@Tunerboy8732 2 жыл бұрын

I have the Kicker one actually got it for free from my buddy when I first setup my sounds because he got the LC2 with his new system and im glad it’s a solid one.

@johannjohann6523 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video Steve. This was some of the best info for those of us that care about such things looking for "The shit" and creating Hi-Fidelity sound systems in our cars! I'm one of those SQ kinda guys getting back into the car stereo game after about 20 years. I love fricking music and want it to be as good as I can afford. lol. Especially my Heavy Metal!

@mikedrum2703 2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate your honesty brother.

@blackman4lyfe 2 жыл бұрын

Well now I know I need to change out my line out, great video!

@ThreaT650 Жыл бұрын

I have no intention of running through an LOC because I have no need and haven't yet on any stereo builds but was super curious as to the amount of distortion a decent LOC would put out and was pleasantly surprised with what I saw in this video.

@jpmcnown1 2 жыл бұрын

Much respect for fairly comparing competition. -Thanks

@housepumpinpc3983 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great demonstration. Thanks Steve.

@johnalenwork53 2 жыл бұрын

Great video Steve!!! Love Audio Control!!

@roadkillraker 2 жыл бұрын

Be awesome to see more data from his tests. Glad to see a few winners in your test. I knew the AC Lc2i would be money.

@meade916 2 жыл бұрын

i am looking forward to it myself. His equipment is

@Red-Pilled_Steel 2 жыл бұрын

Haven't had a system in my car for about 12 years. So much more out there now, I miss having one.

@joshc6080 2 жыл бұрын

Audio control is 👑.

@ROTTBOXX 2 жыл бұрын

This was pretty informative. I got an lc8i for free off my dude, so that's what I'm gonna run. More than I need but leaves room for more.

@theworstgamervr 2 жыл бұрын

Lc8i would be enough for every speaker in my car keeping mids and tweets separate

@4ReelFishing Жыл бұрын

You are awesome! Thank you for doing this video!! Bought the Kicker!

@GhostieXV Жыл бұрын

Can't argue with the results that's for damn sure. Always avoided using LOCS and just replaced the Headunit but for some clients you can't do that. Kicker and Audio Control always worth it for the Put in work and headache free experience!!

@Steve42098 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man I watched your videos took your advice and got your LOC. I am glad I did I installed it in my Audi A6 2017 it was the missing link. My bass was sounding like shit and I thought I had tried everything when your video caught my eye. I don't know all the technical details I just wanted my system to work and now it does thanks to your LOC. Thanks.

@Drillorz Жыл бұрын

I’m having issues with my 2017 Audi A4, what issues did you have that the loc fixed? Also which one did you get

@onemantwohands5224 2 жыл бұрын

Yep sold just ordered LC 7 , what a nice bit of gear!!

@Svg784p 2 жыл бұрын

I use the kicker key amps in my ride and they put out cleean sound, at high volume. Kicker is a grandfather in the auto sound industry 🙄🙂

@jrockaz548 2 жыл бұрын

For the price point kicker can't be beat imo

@philrab 2 жыл бұрын

Same here, have a 180.4 and a 500.1 running off my stock head unit, running components and a sub. I can install a lot, but for the budget and the time investment the Kicker Key amps on a stock head are really competitive.

@gat2asp919 Жыл бұрын

I been running that Kicker for like 6 months now and it's a great product. I was thinking about going to the LC2i but now I'm thinking about putting that $ into my new alternator

@KeepSycklids Жыл бұрын

Yeah buddy 😂that alternator is key

@joshc6080 2 жыл бұрын

@Steve. Anyway to do a video about phone audio clipping. Alot of people use their phones either with Bluetooth or cable and crank the volume all the way up! 🤦

@Nacturnal702 2 жыл бұрын

Nice I learned that years ago,, i have always used Audio Control ,My last tacoma I Used LCi7 and sounded so good, 2018 TRD off road without the JBL system and stock deck with up graded speakers and and small Skar Mini amp's.

@frankparisi2433 8 ай бұрын

Awesome video. Love to see a comparison of locs with bass restoration: Wavetech, Epicenter micro, Kicker, etc.

@nickwyattOR 2 жыл бұрын

I'm very happy with my LC2i!

@TxStang 2 жыл бұрын

Glad I went with the Audiocontrol !

@teeceehonda 2 жыл бұрын

I got the kicker line out in 2 cars. Love it..😁😁😁😁

@ashcoleman8866 2 жыл бұрын

Great info short and sweet very helpful to those with experience and most definitely to the novice👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

@robertredmond77 Жыл бұрын

The kicker, they are nice!! They have good clean sound out

@alandelgado798 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I think I’m going with the kicker, not trying to spend a whole lot of money lol but still want a little bump in my car.

@rantobakker9737 7 ай бұрын

Thanks man!! Very helpful video! Keep doing the good work love it!👊🏽👊🏽

@TheKBshow 2 жыл бұрын

These videos have been really helpful with cheaper factory integration! Try the DEAF BONCE MC6 line out converter in the future!

@justinvellier6220 2 жыл бұрын

I got my LC2 yesterday. Im waiting on my DD1 to come in.

@stevenwheat 2 жыл бұрын

Dang that little kicker one is nice!

@jsteezy80 Жыл бұрын

@Anthony D.Williams "Streetministries For Christ" It just depends if you need the accubass for the stock bass roll off. If your bass goes down as you turn the volume up the lc2 is what you need to restore that signal strength

@LivinLoudwithAndy 2 жыл бұрын

Kicker FTW! Still gotta install that KisLoc for the wifeys car 💪🏼 for the price - Jeeze that’s a steal Cool to see real time results man

@John3K21 2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad he got both Kicker and Audiocontrol in this last lineup. At first I was disappointed he didn't have the keyloc but I figure if the kisloc was that solid then I'd be really surprised if the keyloc somehow wasn't. Haha.

@jblowend8473 2 жыл бұрын

This was a great and informative video, all n all there are only 3 good choices, they're obvious winners.

@commanderlake7997 2 жыл бұрын

If your scope has a spectrum analyser function that will make the distortion far more obvious.

@MattyDaddy14 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for doing this!! I’ve been trying to figure all this out and which one to go with. Also if I could just plug into an amp that takes high level ins. Lastly, glad you mentioned the factory radios with the variable sound levels based on speed and how some turn the bass down when you turn the sound up. It sounds like the audio quest compensates for this. Thanks! 🎉

@jdmintegradp 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, same here.

@rodolfosotelo5929 2 жыл бұрын

Great work like always man!

@hippo-potamus 2 жыл бұрын

Damn bro mad respect for these test!

@fishrrelaxing9361 Жыл бұрын

Really impressed with the kicker tbh.. I mean that’s a $27 loc on Amazon.. just slightly behind the LC2. Eliminating all the extra bells and whistles all things considered that’s a steal of an loc for that price.. Would be interested to see them hooded up so we could actually see the frequency response levels and see how flat or not they are.. The kloc2 is only a few bucks more and even better lol..

@johnhumphreys9732 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome information!!!! Love your videos!!!

@adanssvlogss 2 жыл бұрын

Kicker for the win! Thanks for the vid bro

@briankerr2110 Жыл бұрын

Hey Steve, the internal circuitry of a basic LOC consists of nothing more than a decoupling capacitor and a potentiometer between the speaker leads, and the signal output soldered to the wiper. A high value pot and low value cap will minimize capacitive reactance and subsequent phase shift. I respect your tuning method. Thank you for using an oscilloscope. Cheers

@ksavage681 Жыл бұрын

He aligned the combobulator with the variable outputs and watched the phase shift, then measured the neutral capacitance. Easy.

@definitelynotak4228 2 жыл бұрын

damn that kicker is great for a budget build. might get myself an lc2i since i need a bass knob still, didnt know that was even a feature of those. 2 birds 1 stone

@reekinhavok420 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to see you do an nvx loc

@krodyssey4770 2 жыл бұрын

I finally got the video I been wanting

@XxDylanRockzxX 2 жыл бұрын

Keep up the great work brother

@gorillaman08zx 2 жыл бұрын

When I installed in the 90s we always used the PAC, i’m sure technology has changed quite a bit since I was a installer.

@KayKashi Жыл бұрын

Getting the LC2i pro thanks for confirming

@frazmeup Жыл бұрын

How did it work out? I added an amp n rf t1 to factory stereo and it sounds like ass

@KayKashi Жыл бұрын

@@frazmeup sounds great got the skar 1500 amp n dual pre fab loaded subs “12’s. It may be how it’s tuned.

@milwaukeekid2637 11 ай бұрын

Audio control LC2i Pro and Kicker are killing shit! 💯

@juliosandoval8244 10 ай бұрын

Yes kicker one is little bad ass

@easyrider76 2 ай бұрын

KICKER is so cheap and so good that it is the best choice for most users. I will definitely buy it to see the difference between it and the Head unit Pioneer RCA pre output 2Volts.

@txddyfarquh3916 Жыл бұрын

AudioControl is ALL BUSINESS! I needs that shit in my Life 🤟🏽💯💯

@kip6006 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this! Great information!

@GlycerinZ 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this an the other vid. Years ago i had a buddy install an amp/sub into my stock deck, and he used the Scosche LOC2SL.. great to see that it's shit. I have since upgraded to a Kenwood deck

@javiderek31 Жыл бұрын

I put the PAC SNI-15 in my stock c6 corvette radio and it distorted one click away from Max volume with the dd1. Eventually I'll buy a radio but it'll do for now.

@markperry7670 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video now I kno what move I need to make

@metaldreams3595 2 жыл бұрын

Mad,Mad respect for this video. I subbed. Hey question though. Was the Accubass all the way down when testing the LC2i?

@gfelaevermore 2 жыл бұрын

dope vid...thanks. your closing track though, I need a lot of that. sounded so good in my truck. where can I cop?

@CeoOfSlow 2 жыл бұрын

We pretty much use the audiocontrol product the shop I work at or the pac lp7-2 or lp7-4

@ibrheemmikbel8131 2 жыл бұрын

I really want to see the pac lp72 and lp52

@kswis 2 жыл бұрын

Kicker and audio control knocked it out the park. Quality gear I use and enjoy. Backed up by a dd1 and amm1 there's no distortion in my whip so thanks for your part in it Steve. Can't believe how the other llc were. I'd love to see Tony go over them too