Glue stick is super cheap, easy to use, available everywhere, and works.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@tvojejbabkydedko3 ай бұрын
and absolutely unnecessary and messy for no reason, manufacturers better fix their beds, many brands never require it.
@urban21533 ай бұрын
@@tvojejbabkydedko I don't find it messy at all. A little goes a long way and last for many prints. I will definitely glue stick on big prints for the extra bit of insurance.
@RonZaworaCGS3 ай бұрын
This problem and discussion demonstrates the quintessential reason why there are dichotomies in the 3DP community. Since no two printers are identical and no processes work for EVERY printer, substitutions and work arounds exist to enable people to print successfully. But often times, people lack knowledge, expertise, or free capital to print the way things were meant to be printed. What model designer designs their models specifically for printing onto glue stick? What maker has unlimited funds, time, and knowledge to actually FIX their printer's actual issues? It's all relative and people will stand on business arguing about their subject knowledge of success instead of discussing the situation, root causes, and permanent solutions?
@urban21533 ай бұрын
@@RonZaworaCGS When it comes to bed adhesion we are discussing preferences and sharing experiences. All FDM printers these days are quite similar. Heated build plates, consistent extrusion temps, and speeds. Success has more to with print settings and that first layer. In the end whatever gets you a successful print in the manner you like is the right solution. Perhaps a dichotomy between vendor brand support, otherwise my experience has been a collaborative sharing community.
@Happy3dprinting3 ай бұрын
I occasionally use 3dlac if printing very small parts and that’s it. Helping hands make light of certain tasks and success is always the best result.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@brennonwilliams91813 ай бұрын
I switched to a water soluble hair spray the other week back and sprayed where the prints were going. Has not failed yet, and cooled removal is a game changer. Really enjoyed the video, though, and great content on your channel. Stay authentic.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Oh! What brand?! I think a lot of people reading the comments would love to know. And thank you!
@brennonwilliams91813 ай бұрын
@LoyalMoses I'm out in Thailand so it's a really random one from a 7/11 store which cracks me up. The company is lifeford (sounds dodgy right) SalonArtist power extreme spray. I think it's made here - may do some digging. 72hr hold. I haven't checked with exotics yet, but will run some experiments in coming weeks.
@berlinberlin42463 ай бұрын
I'm using l'oreal elnett extra strong hold hairspray It's working really good, testet with PLA and TPU
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!!!
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing too
@tomsalzl65933 ай бұрын
Aquanet hair spray is my go too on all pla, pla - carbon fiber, petg , tpu and asa, water wash since 2017. glue stick on abs, nylon, pain on cleaning, got multiple build plates on each machine - 1 glue, 1 spray. never tried it - vision miner. Anet (2 of em) 8, Ender 3, Twotree blu3 and blu5, Sunlu, Kingroon Kp5, Anycubic Max and NEO, tronxy X5SA, Tevo, XYZ Davinci and a few others
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@gfixler14 күн бұрын
I haven't used a glue stick, but I have struggled mightily to get my TPU prints off the MK4 bed, almost damaging it. I tried a thing I heard good reviews about this week: 1 part clear PVA glue, 2 parts isopropyl alcohol (99%), and 2 parts water. I have a 10ml pipette, so each part was just that to nicely fill a 50ml envelope moistener bottle, the kind with the sponge and the cap to keep it from drying out. I tried it with a little disc print of TPU, and it worked great. Peeled right off. It goes on as a thin liquid, which I like more than the smudgy looking glue stick (which I would have opted for if this hadn't worked so well).
@LoyalMoses14 күн бұрын
That is great to hear that you found a solution! Interface layers are great for helping release prints too, people forget about that!
@JoeC-tt9oq3 ай бұрын
I print ABS, ASA, Nylons, PETG, PLA, etc. and I've never used an adhesive. The only bed adhesion issues I've had so far is with long, thin PLA prints and I've always resolved it with design, slower speeds, or mouse ears on the worst offenders. I've got a drawer full of glue sticks from all my printers because I've never wanted to deal with the cleanup but this Nano stuff seems worth having in the tool kit. I'll order some up to play with.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Give it a shot!
@arthurtorricer4544Ай бұрын
thank you.. I'll need to upgrade from glue sticks. my 11 year old daughter is starting to print way more than I do these days . 16 color AMS with X1c is her favorite combo.. I just showed her your video with the SUNLU machine.. she's like that will fit perfect in the corner of our office $$$$$.
@LoyalMosesАй бұрын
That's awesome! Could you imagine if we had these machines when we were that age?! Wow, I can't even being to think how much different my brain would be. We'd see the world completely different.
@christurner47993 ай бұрын
Big big big believer in glue stick. Elmer's purple glue has become a staple of my printing toolkit
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
It’s really good stuff!
@BigJohn70-3 ай бұрын
I found my four year old ender 3 printer that I haven't printed with in about 3 years. After the first print I found that nothing can be printed on this printer because the printout never sticks to the bed. So I calibrated the printer for about 5 hours but still no result. So I started searching youtube for a solution and everyone said I needed glue so I bought 3DLAC and right after applying glue even without calibration it prints like new.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
That's awesome to hear! I am glad you got the prints to stick!
@irvingibarra153 ай бұрын
Washing the plate with dawn soap helps
@theunknowdude43553 ай бұрын
In my opinion, there is no need for such overpriced special products to ensure that the 3D print sticks to the printing plate. For the few cases where I print “problematic” filaments, a glue stick is sufficient.
@Dalroth3 ай бұрын
To be fair, you get a lot of mileage out of this stuff. I bought a bottle getting close to a year ago that's still got 1/3rd of it left. I also apply it more religiously and clean my build plate than is necessary. It's much easier to apply and clean than a glue stick. I never used hairspray so I can't compare to that. Basically, the cost is not an issue. You get a lot of mileage out of a single application and the convenience of applying it alone makes it worthwhile to me.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
You can’t hold down nylons and polycarbonates without it! 💜
@theunknowdude43553 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Well, I see it differently. Or rather, countless videos on YT prove that it is possible. ;)
@theunknowdude43553 ай бұрын
@@Dalroth Your statement is a point that I can understand.
@RyanMercer13 күн бұрын
After that prime tower incident I'm about to just use 2 stage epoxy haha.Single use plates!!!!
@LoyalMoses13 күн бұрын
Dude! Grab some of this NPA! Never a problem again.
@RyanMercer13 күн бұрын
@@LoyalMoses 😂 😂 😂 way ahead of you.
@kingborg43432 ай бұрын
just wanna say thank you for being 1 of the good channel owners!!!!!! by that i mean u talk to your viewers. ty 4 taking ur time to responding 2 us!
@LoyalMoses2 ай бұрын
Thank you! That means a lot!
@kingborg43432 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses i mean some do respond. i understad those who dont its alot of work.
@vhoward11223 ай бұрын
Vision Miner is how much per ounce? Glue sticks work just fine and they are cheap. I do prefer Aquanet hair spray though.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Especially if you buy them by the case!!!
@computergururick3 ай бұрын
I just want to thank you for the tip that your probably didn't even mean to focus on. I have a Dremel printer with a glass build plate and it has been very hard to remove the prints until, you said glue stick is a release when it gets cold, so now I put the finished print in the freezer on the build plat for 10 - 15 minutes and it comes off with ease. Share this with others. Thanks again.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
You are so welcome! What you discovered is actually very common in the industry. Many have found prints stuck with nowhere else to go and the answer has definitely been to put it in the freezer. Also, some turn an air can upside down and blast it with a bit of cold to get it to pop off.
@leeball43 ай бұрын
Never needed a glue stick until I did lol. Seriously, I don't like using a bed adhesive (mostly because it's the last thing I try after everything else and I never learn) but there are cases where it is necessary, just another variable to consider in a hobby with a billion variables.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
So true!
@Enjoymentboy3 ай бұрын
Listening to people talk about bed adhesives is like listening to them talk about their politics or sports teams. Everyone KNOWS the "right way" or the "best thing". I say try a few things out and figure out what works best for you. Personally I outright REFUSE to pay $5-10 for a special product using all sorts of buzz (ie nano polymer adhesive...that's just a fancy name for glue people) words when I can get a case of glue sticks for the same price. And here's a little tip most glue stick detractors DON'T seem to know...they can be used on things OTHER THAN YOUR PRINT BED!!!!!!!
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Call them up, they hired one of the top polymer scientists in the world to create their recipe. You don’t hold down polycarbonate and PEEK with just any glue. I don’t get upset about what people use, as long as it works for them.
@Enjoymentboy3 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses I hear ya. But since I will never have a need to print OC or PEEK a $0.25 glue stick will do me just fine. lol
@SebasTian-od7oz3 ай бұрын
TL/DR: Getting *any specialized* glue for 3D printing - *in addition* to glue stick - is in my opinion the most important add-on for success you can "just buy" - and not having to dive into another rabbit hole for a change. (Of course knowing when to use what and when not to use glue stick it is important too though) Initially I never used any adhesive for PLA prints on a smooth PEI plate. (For that combo still no adhesive is needed if the surface is clean and the model big imo) The turning point happened when I tried PLA on a textured powder coated plate. Even with perfect Z-offset and a freshly washed plate with high quality dish soap, the models with smaller footprints came loose. I remembered my printer came with a PVA gluestick and I tried it out. Funnily not only did the small prints came loose, now also some medium prints failed X-D And there it finally clicked for me what PVA glue stick is not necessarily always for "prints sticking better". Rather that you have an interface layer to help remove the prints easier (ok, I admittedly used YT to get that information :) After that it dawned on me that I have just been using the wrong adhesive for the wrong material and for the wrong utilization. Then I tried one adhesive specialized for 3D printing (not Nano Polymer though) and - oh boy - what a night and day difference. Now I use specialized glue for almost every print and even dare do stick-like prints vertically without brims. Quick tips: once the glue is used up from multiple times printing on the same spot, you can use water or propyl alcohol on a (preferably microfiber) cloth to "smear" glue from the unused spots over to the used ones. I would also protect a plate from dust with glue applied on it! Either covering it with a foil, storing it vertically or simplest - just flipping it over on the printer when cold (provided your glue is not "staining" and stays on the plate).
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
This was a great read! Thank you for sharing!
@estep14143 ай бұрын
It sounds like it comes down to how many and how often you print. I use glue sticks with mostly no problems as long as I remember to replace it after 3-4 prints. I switched to a textured PEI bed and haven't used glue sense until I got my new printer. It's a smooth PEI bed and says on the bed to apply glue. I've tried without glue and had mostly success but success every time with glue. If this can last as long as they say it would save time and money.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I'll still use both of course, glue sticks on some machines just work great and are quick, but for nice prints, I like the nano polymer adhesive.
@trobinou473 ай бұрын
I've always used hairspray (Vivelle Dop Extreme). It doesn't cost anything, about €4 for 250ml, you can clean the plate with hot water, and one bottle lasts me almost 1 year.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome
@Hrockstarz3 ай бұрын
I haven't yet needed it but I'm hoping this is the solution to my repetitive prints for the toy drive come Christmas
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Heck yes!!!
@hermanchristiani46503 ай бұрын
For PETG and ABS I'm using Dimafix, a bit expensive but last a long time, sticks very well and releases when cool.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@ProtonOne113 ай бұрын
According to the MSDS this "Nano Polymer Adhesive" is mostly 2-Propanol, or what we would usually call isopropyl alcohol. I guess they mixed in some water and PVA or PVB with IPA and sell it as "magic bullet". Might be interesting to actually try that as a cheap DIY solution. PS: Interesting that they basically use the same bottle you get vape juice in. Makes sense, because you get them very cheap thanks to the mass production volume of vape juices.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Call them up on the phone. They hired one of the top polymer scientists to create the adhesive. PVA and PVB won't hold engineering plastics down. In-fact, you can put it on raw steel or aluminum and print directly to it. It's crazy stuff.
@Robothut3 ай бұрын
I tried visionminer stuff when it first came out. PLA would not stick at all, every print failed. So I normally just keep a very clean flex plate and if I see the first layer looks bad, then out comes the glue stick.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
🤔
@BartonKashmer3 ай бұрын
I use glue sticks...Elmers purple. You may think it's more expensive, however if you just bulk buy it after the back to school sales you can get them for less than 40 cents a tube
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
They work great!
@lmcjr62682 ай бұрын
4 years into printing and haven't needed adhesives. I'm sure they have their place but I think its more popular as a crutch for the average person.
@LoyalMoses2 ай бұрын
When you get into more advanced filaments, you will definitely need to have some handy!
@Baggins_lover3 ай бұрын
Only time I don’t use a glue stick, is when the bottom layer is decorative. I hate the look the glue residue leaves, even when it’s washed off.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I know what you mean. Can leave swirls, etc on the bottom.
@Dalroth3 ай бұрын
I haven't had any issues with a light layer of the vision miner glue. No residue on the prints anyway. It does start to look a little funky on the build plate after a couple prints but never affects the models and cleans off easily.
@darkwinter73953 ай бұрын
I haven't tried it yet, but I'm wondering if diluting it out with distilled water or isopropyl alcohol so that the coating is of a uniform thickness might help... 🤔
@3DJapan3 ай бұрын
On my glass bed I use glue stick but my flexible beds with PEI or PEX don't need anything.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome Phil! Glue stick works nearly all the time!
@TheSinzia3 ай бұрын
I really like the "home made" version, Goo By Frank. Can get a kit from DFH and it makes a whole liter of bed adhesive, just mix with 91% IPA.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I’ve never heard of this! How cool!
@taj19943 ай бұрын
I personally don't use any adhesive, but I also only print PLA, and mostly just don't want to deal with cleaning it up later... Lol. I also don't really like the finish it leaves on my prints Also, love the Techquickie-style video
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Also, that’s the style I was shooting for, quick and educational. 💜
@918swimbikerun2 ай бұрын
I lost a large print last night on an Elegoo Neptune Max 4. Which adhesive would be recommended for that printer for a large print? Is the recommended temperature at least 60 C on the heat bed? I saw it was 45 and the room cooled. This is my first go at this all this!! Thank you!
@LoyalMoses2 ай бұрын
60c would be best for the build plate temp, and yes, this Nano Polymer Adhesive would be the right choice to hold it down! loyal.ms/visionminer
@918swimbikerun2 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses thank you sir!
@jizzi2816 күн бұрын
Nano Polymer works great, you don't need to keep applying it. so worth it for me just sucks if you are printing a large model and it comes free. with Nano Polymer it stays in place until cool
@LoyalMoses16 күн бұрын
It is absolutely amazing stuff!
@parallelsandtangents9383 ай бұрын
Only if nanopolymer were as affordable as gluestick which I highly doubt.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
That $5 bottle lasts a while and is a great value!
@shanechristiansen383 ай бұрын
Really like how you showed the application of this product, it ensures a true even layer of adhesive versus a glue stick. Maybe I'll win some so I can try it, and persuade myself to switch from hair spray....
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Hair spray works!
@dustinroberson18653 ай бұрын
My Creality V2 worked perfect for about a year on the glass bed. Then all of a sudden I started getting curled corners. I didn't want to go the route of the glue stick, so I vigorously washed the glass bed, put the printer in an enclosure and tried fine tuning my print specs. I still had curled corners. Eventually I flipped the glass plate over, put some purple glue stick on it and never turned back
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
It works wonders!
@dustinroberson18653 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses I may need to try this product. The issue I have with glue sticks, is that you need to clean it off every so often because you build up a residue in the areas that the filament doesn't touch the print bed. It seems as the the nano stuff is a thin enough layer and since it doesn't need to be reapplied so often, it won't build up.
@The3DPrintingGrandad3 ай бұрын
I have reduced the amount bed adhesive materials (glue stick) I use. I hope to send my scrape to a recycler and they will not accept scrap with adhesive materials on them. However I have found the purple Elmer's glue stick works well and washes off fairly easily. It turns purple again when hit with water so it is easy to tell if you missed getting some off.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@ziggystardog3 ай бұрын
I go for a multi-pronged defense. PVA for ASA/ABS, dilute PVA for PETG release, and nano-polymers for trouble spots and tough cases where mouse ear brims don’t apply automatically. And full brims if I’m having a bad day.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing that.
@greengohm3 ай бұрын
By PVA you mean a regular wood/school glue?
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
For 3D printing beds, PVA glue sticks like Elmer’s purple or the Amazon ones I put in the description. And, yes it’s the same PVA.
@ziggystardog3 ай бұрын
@@greengohm when I say dilute PVA, what I mean is I rub a glue stick onto a damp microfiber cloth and then wipe my build plate with it. I tend to dedicate build plates to each type of plastic. I find it’s unnecessary to use a thick coat with PETG, so I started doing this to try and make things less messy.
@greengohm3 ай бұрын
@@ziggystardog I tried something similar with smearing the glue stick residue on a plate with a damp sponge, but was wondering whether someone does it better/differently. Thanks for sharing your method!
@joelamaro45253 ай бұрын
The purists can kiss my HEY THIS IS A FAMILY SHOW! My printers are in my bedroom and as a cardiology patient heat really messes with me. So I don’t always have the ideal temps. I used a glue stick yesterday for the first time with my mini. I would have used the vision miner but the bottle I won from you just shipped today. 😭 Thanks to you and Mrs LM - T4L_CZR
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Hehe! Congrats on your win!
@mikedoyle53623 ай бұрын
I like the glue stick for those items that have the large flat first layers.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I agree! Same.
@mikedoyle53623 ай бұрын
Why does the link automatically add .95 shipping insurance? I tried to delete and it refreshes and adds it back. Not good, lost sale.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I was just told you can scroll down and turn off the insurance shipping option, it’s not required.
@user-wo7rl4nm7w3 ай бұрын
I lost a day long print with 3 hours left because I forgot my gluestick. It was for a competition I was leaving for in less then a day, and it used more then half my spool, so I just printed the rest and epoxyd it together
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
It really is 3D printing insurance!
@3D_Printing3 ай бұрын
PEI, POK, FFE, GGR, BBR What ever they want to sell is the greatest perfect build surface, the say
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
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@Techjunkie513 ай бұрын
I use Suave hairspray for adhesive. I tried blue tape and glue sticks and neither worked, the hairspray works great.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome
@chuckthetekkie3 ай бұрын
Ironically I have printed so many ABS parts on my Voron V0 with the same application of Glue Stick on a smooth PEI sheet. I haven't cleaned the plate in over 1 year. Yes I've had a few failed prints it's very rare.Of course now that I've said that, I'll probably have loads of adhesion issues now. LOL. Typically the prints that failed were very close to the edge of the build plate. I likely don't have glue there.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Glue stick is just awesome stuff! I hope you didn’t jinx yourself!
@RaphaelRema3 ай бұрын
I thought I was good with a normal glue stick until I tried Nano polymer adhesive. I always use for those filaments that simply refuse to stay on bed (like nylon, collorfab HT or PC) and I can tell - it's worth the price.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
1000%! Thank you for sharing!
@1981AdamGs3 ай бұрын
I hate adhesives. I avoid using them as much as I can. Since getting a P1S I haven't had to use adhesive for anything other than nylon and carbon fiber. Not having to use adhesive for ABS was a HUGE plus for me after buying my P1S.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@venados653 ай бұрын
does the nano adhesive leave a residue on the print surface like glue stick?
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
No, it’s far cleaner. Less comes off when you remove a print than glue stick.
@venados653 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses great to hear, will try it.
@ausfoodgarden3 ай бұрын
Did you have to mention printing PETG on a glass build plate? That still stings.😢 But yeah el cheapo glue stick is my go to. Never need to use it for your mainstream filaments, but anything that needs more heat or is expensive, cheap insurance.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Oh no! You had a glass breakage?!
@ausfoodgarden3 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Yep I cracked it. But luckily I got a replacement metal base that lets me use pei metal sheets for the actual build surface. Not too bad but I still feel stupid about the PETG incident.
@angelcarlos98593 ай бұрын
have you use the polydryer yet
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
I have! Amazing machine!
@tomtaylor1353 ай бұрын
Also to stop warping. Beds need to be at glass transition temps when you print. Otherwise I have prints failing all the time.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@dougshellusn3 ай бұрын
Dissolve pva in IPA and spray in on the bed.. easy day
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@GeorgeIvanPare3 ай бұрын
Does anyone else think that he is channeling Johnny Carson from the past?!
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
haha! Have you told that to me before or did someone else recently say this too?!
@mussydesign79333 ай бұрын
when you have pets its impossible to use glue, I've been printing for almost 10 years never used glue
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Because of the hair?
@lacroserocks3 ай бұрын
"Boom" 😅
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Heh!
@nerys713 ай бұрын
I hate using bed adhesives because it's one more step it's one more thing I have to do it's one more thing I have to monitor it's one more thing I have to clean up And no glue stick does not always work however sometimes it really does help The vision minor guys well they're witchcraft They got some black magic going on in that freaking bottle that just blows my mind I'm printing these giant 1 kg blocks to build a shed yep I'm going to build an entire building using my own designed 1 kg per block prints Absolutely nothing would keep this print on the build plate The only success I had was when I used my 444 printer to print the 300 mm block so I'm pretty sure it was the Delta between the outside and inside edge of the print bed cooling as you approach the edge and because the 400 by 400 bed gave you a larger buffer around the print it tended to stick better What I was dealing with was simple warp force The part I was printing was thin and it simply warped with such great force let me describe to you how much great force p e t g on glass still warped off the glass! It did not seem to matter what I did and then vision minor sent me their kit first thing that hit me was that one of those bottles is $60 ouch that hurts However it freaking worked The Black magic witchcraft worked when I went to Rocky mountain murph I brought my cross with me to hold back those witches :-) Seriously though it actually worked not only that I was able to print directly on the aluminum heat bed now keep in mind that's 50/50 every piece of aluminum is different it doesn't always work it didn't work at first but when I apply the second layer of the nanopolymer it worked and here's the real kicker I'm something like 20 prints in now and I have not had to reapply it sadly a very expensive $60 bottle is looking like a very very affordable way of making sure my prince actually stay put and as long as you let it cool and release naturally it doesn't appear to damage the nanopolymer layer They said that this would work with PLA and PETG once you go with higher temperature plastics you'll probably have to reapply every now and then since the part is going to do more damage when it pulls away from the bed But so far I'm sold this stuff is some sort of black magic witchcraft it just sticks every time now I'm printing big fat 1 mm thick 0.8 mm high layers I haven't tried to do any fine printing like on a regular or 0.4 nozzle since that's just not what I'm printing right now But not having to continuously reapply and it's super easy to apply Dot it down all over the bed using brush to spread it around and by the time the bed heats up it's set Beyond that it just works I also love that I do not have to have a glass plate I can print directly on the aluminum again not always guaranteed to work My aluminum plate happens to work PEI nope peeled off PEX peeled off PC peeled off glue stick peeled off PETG directly on glass peeled off I even brought out the tactical nuclear option I slapped down a sheet of wham bam with my old creality like cloth like sticker surface on it I only have a few of those left this stuff is kind of like that fake buildtak surface but it's almost fabric like it has a cloth like texture to it everything sticks to it and that actually worked The part did not separate from the build surface instead the part peeled the goddamn build surface off the metal plate it literally ripped the sticker off the bed I was pulling my hair out of this point trying to figure out how in the world can I print these parts without them warping sure the 444 printer worked but I only have one of those I have a dozen 333s The nano polymer just works whatever kind of black magic witchcraft they got going on in that little pink bottle just works
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
WOW! Thank you for sharing! I know that took time to write and I really appreciate that.
@Martin-yo2lm3 ай бұрын
$45 for 120ml? 😂 you lost me
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
If you print more advanced filaments, be sure to give it a try.
@Martin-yo2lm3 ай бұрын
Nope, thx
@nerys713 ай бұрын
It's a niche product but it does work and it doesn't cost nearly as much as you think in fact if you're printing PLA and PETG and as long as you don't try to hot remove a part you'll probably get a year out of one of the little sample bottles once you have that first set of layers down you don't really have to ever reapply it I'm 20 prints in and I have not had to reapply it so at first when I saw $60 for that bottle that turn me off real quick but now that I haven't had to reapply it in the last month and a half? I'm sold Now this is a niche thing what I'm printing in particular was just being really nasty it would not stay not because it wasn't sticking it was sticking fine My first layer was great The part was adhering to the bed normally The problem was the warp force as the part built up was so strong that it even pulled PETG off of glass and even my tactical nuclear option of using my cloth like fake build tak surface material like creality used in the early days which was an amazing print surface mind you Even that failed me while the part did not separate from the print surface it ripped the goddamn sticker off the print bed. These parts I'm printing are just nasty but The nanopolymer just works I have not had one of these parts pull off yet absolutely flat every one of them granted I'm printing unusually large hefty parts that don't have a solid bottom layer it's all open infill and perimeters so the warping action is really high And the fact is I haven't had to reapply the stuff as long as you let it cool and naturally release with PLA or PETG you shouldn't have to reapply it very often seriously even one of those little sample bottles will last forever
@RipperdenResourcesLLC-fx3nk3 ай бұрын
I started using the Nano Polymer about a year ago. I messed with everything else before that. I bought the big bottle and 1500 prints later I haven't even used half of it. This stuff works great and I highly recommend it. I get many prints off one application (around 40-50) for PETG and PLA. For expensive and engineering filaments, I apply it on each print. I don't have to wash off the print surface as often. For me it will last at least 3000 prints, so the cost is not even 2 cents a print. It is worth it to me.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! Amazing stuff.
@aloreactusplayer17763 ай бұрын
3D lac FTW
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@aloreactusplayer17763 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Yep i dont know if you have heard of it it comes in spray and in nano polimar dropper bottles i use it daily on all my machines just for that little extra but till now from pla to peek its freaking great
@BooshikiDikki3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for this video! I got some from my local microcenter and im still printing from my first application!
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Awesome!!! It works so well, crazy good stuff!
@MrBooth19743 ай бұрын
I swapped to vision miner when ASA printing ruined a bed plate on my X1C. I’ve been using it ever since.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
AWESOME TO HEAR!
@DWIT3D3 ай бұрын
Love Vision Miner NPA!!! Best overall in my opinion!! 😊
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Amazing stuff!
@TheToonamiRevolution3 ай бұрын
FINE. I'll try it. Looks fairly residue free, would have liked a few more examples of the prints and plate after. I don't want messes in my print cells. But I've had some curled edges lately that won't stop happening so I'm hoping this could fix it.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Give it a try, it’s cheap enough and I already know it’s going to work out very well! Let me know what you think!
@Dalroth3 ай бұрын
I've never had issues with vision miner residue getting on on my prints. It does start to look a little funky on the build plate after a couple prints, but that's just the build plate.
@TheToonamiRevolution3 ай бұрын
@@LoyalMoses Checking back in after a handful of print tests with the Vision Miner solution. While I didn't use it with the exotics that its probably more useful for, I will confirm it definitely solved my PLA edges curling up on textured PEI sheets. No matter of washing/scrubbing ever got them to hold PLA super well after they were broke in. But since most of my prints are PLA and I like the textured look, it was nice to have them hold down again. Also didn't seem to transfer any weird color or residue over to print. The plate does show where you have printed now, which I printed over the same places to see how it would affect it. Seemed fine overall. My only gripe is not with the product but how if you touch the build plate with a rogue finger its very visible where you touched it. I assume it negates the coating. Normally I clean my plates before every print with IPA but now that won't really work. I guess it would be up to the user to decide if its worth it.
@vreedognight3 ай бұрын
The Vision Miner bottle that Moose won on stream should be delivered tomorrow! Going to try it out with some PolyTerra on my Prusa mini
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Oh! Awesome! Let me know how you like it!
@scottbaeder373 ай бұрын
Vison Miner stuff is AMAZING...LOVE it!.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@kschaffer69783 ай бұрын
VM NPA is absolutely the best! Worth the price. Doesn't leave the white residue other adhesives do.
@LoyalMoses3 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!
@donnymiddlebrook3 ай бұрын
I'll wait until my package of 10 glue sticks run out to try this.