This is boys. Go home, this one wins

Ah yes, that is indeed boys

Very boys if you don’t mind me saying.

time for his redemption arc

@@SolarDos can confirm, this is boys

🤣

6 months for that though? that was the least soothing thing ive heard in a while. Jesus. 6 months for a frozen dinner

@@ts4gv probably had priors. Doesn't make it right but I think that's the likely explanation.

"and adjusted it" The carbonara?

I heard it as i read your comment

@@GuidelinesViolatorbro wtf are you on

@@skystone15 70% of crimes

@@skystone15 70% of crimes

@@GuidelinesViolator okay youre twelve

​@@GuidelinesViolatorwrong reply section i think

Well put

What’s something ridiculous you were told that turned out to be true?

@@Vxjx15 I was once told a very involved story by an inmate about the absurd lengths the county jail went to to avoid taking him to a doctor to be seen for melanoma. It involved letters from his lawyer and orders from a judge and all kinds of delays. I just couldn't believe that the jail would take such risks with someone's health just to be petty, especially since they had no way to deny that they were aware of the person's diagnosis. But it was all true. I've also had guys tell me stories about turning themselves in for offenses that had not been detected that I thought were really self-serving and couldn't possibly be true that actually turned out to be totally true.

'polite agnosticism' - I like it

​​@@snowmonster42 omg​ this looks so interesting!! ive always loved watching series nd playing games in which prisoners talk or show their sessions w psychiatrists but i couldnt find much.. can u tell me more pls? like would it be too scary to deal w people who may have killed several people or committed worse crimes? or do they look like normal ppl nd js talk nd nothing is wierd? sorry for being so nosy lol

yeah what's he doing making coffee :^)

Yeah man, he is so fit to become one.

Nice selfie as a pfp.

You’re right, he should

Here he is, wasting it by Vlogging..

@Shin Shaman you corny as hell

@Shin Shaman corny

@@ibflexin6413 corny

@@nsmina Corny

@@weirdo_draws3794 corny

ratio

Nah,he tweakin

Damnit I just posted this same comment

@@Soup0066 I was about to do it too

☠☠🤣

Theft is theft

@@LaVaZ000 no. It literally is not. The value of the item determines the extent of the crime. That was probably a $3.50 item. That’s ridiculous… but yes, theft is never ok.

@@ConservativeCompassit all begins with a 3 dollar item.

@@pulakification yea but it shouldn’t begin with 6 months in prison.. that person has a record now. They lost their job (assuming they had one and wasn’t stealing because they were starving) and now it’s gonna be nearly impossible for them to get a new job.

It's either an embellished story to make the point or the guy had a string of convictions and was on a suspended sentence.

hard facts over here

based

source: trust me bro

we got new evidence your honour "free my bro he aint do nun💯

He clearly said he was “dead ass,”

@Shin Shaman and?

@@shakirathompson6333 he is a bot spamming in these comments dont worry lol

These new inner city courts be bussin, innit?

@@racsomv. That doesn’t even make any sense

@@ashley1919100 amog us

you should love to watch monster . It's basically about what u say

​@@jeisonaguilar3530goated suggestion.

what if they ask you to step on them

If only my hospital had nurses like you

I get your point but I'd like to ask you a question. I'm in hospital myself quite a lot, and I've seen this old man come in for the third time with a pretty severe injury. Each time it is because he is driving on his electric bycicle and is not wearing a helmet. Second time he got a head injury. One of the nurses mentioned this and this man and his wife got angry at the nurse for suggesting that it was maybe somehow his responsibility to wear protective gear (especially at their age). In cases where people are 'responsible' for their own pain, do you still feel like helping them as much? I've had another case of a woman who was laying next to me who didn't want to take her pills because she didn't trust them. Meanwhile, her condition was getting worse. Same question here.

Lowkey bro!

@@njm5642 cringe

@@brayanisrael9175 you missed the joke but yeah go ahead

@@njm5642 whats the joke

@@Ok-wf8yd the joke is : people who say ‘’deadass’’ a lot usually say ‘’lowkey’’ and ‘’bro’’ a lot as well, here it is I spelled it out for you.

That joke is dead

@@Bibleguy89-uu3nr thanks for saying it

I just watched an one piece video and here am I now

KZfaq brough us here because. . . Chris-chan

I’m glad I came here

I assure you, he's gonna have a redemption arc throughout the next months.

Hello! EveryoneToday, I am inviting you to come to Jesus Christ and be sure you are truly following God and doing his will by repenting and being immersed in the Baptism of life. Please come and be saved and see the truth and love of God and his mercy and kindness and for yourself. He can lead us on the path of light that leads to Heaven. I hope you will consider it. May God bless you! 🙂

@@chanceweslowski7792 thank you so much. I've always been an atheist, but when I read this comment I gave my life to Jesus and I'm going to become a preacher

I took my life reading that god ain't real

@@escapegoat3673 LMFAOO PLS

But when this view is meeting with the moral boundaries there is a problem

@@izi1902 What if he speaks correctly and does it not depend on the defence? You should not ask what they did wrong but how to best defend them. Its complicated and not everyone would give simple awnser and some need guiding. Just think of him as not guilty and just another man. Even how bad it is he needs a good defence and if its really that bad the defence wont help in getting him free but can reduse sentence. This is what the guy needs and thats your job whomever he might be. You could know what he did wrong but you should take every other account you can. Who he is and whats he like. Try setup a good defence even if you know its will not win it might get the sentence redused. This is the moral way. Becouse if you dont your breaching your morals by not giving him a good defence. He will get whats deserved whatever that is. If you dont want to breach your morals then just dont lie.

My problem is when defence lawyers make up ridiculous stories and scenarios especially in murder cases

"their actions"? you already assumed something is in fact happened with your statement.

@@doejan8549 The premise of this video is "how do you defend someone you think is guilty". This does indeed assume someone did something. The goal of a trial is to establish what did and did not happen beyond all reasonable doubt, so assumptions do not change anything. The video only addresses why it is moral to defend someone you think is guilty

Except the clients will usually be honest with their attorneys about whether they did it or not so they can plan a proper defense. A lawyer's job is to represent the client and try to get them the best possible outcome, not get to the truth. That's why you have attorney-client privilege.

@@MrMakoto2 Its not false. Clients will literally tell they did it so they lawyer can help them out of the situation. The lawyer tells them to lie sometimes so they can make a good defense.

@@MrMakoto2 Actually wait, why would the fuck would your attorney be under oath? I think that's the key part here. The witness is under oath, not your attorney so they can lie and mislead all they want.

That sounds like Cap

sounds about right until the evidence is unquestionable and they still try to give the person as low sentencing as possible.

lmao same, i think this is being sent to anyone

Yeah

honestly though lmao

Yup just popped on my feed today out of nowhere

but it’s good… so

No one disagrees with that. But you're still trying to convince the people who decide the outcome that a murderer or a rapist or a child molester is innocent and should face no consequences

@@shawn.spencer yeah and the prosecution will try to get an innocent man in prison as that’s what their job is. These are necessary positions, it may not work 100% of the time but two opposing forces using reason to accomplish their sole goal is the best legal system we have.

The jurys job shouldnt even be being the jury man why tf do yall even have the guy with the hammer

The judge in a jury trial is only there to make sure the trial is conducted properly. What do you mean “the jury shouldn’t be the jury”? They decide guilty or innocent, not the one with the gavel. It’s not a hammer.

@Lina even if you believe they are guilty. You must have faith in the legal system. If everyone guilty or innocent is prosecuted by the prosecution and defended by the defence it’s a fair system. In a fair system the jury should be able to decide if that person can be proved guilty or innocent. If you defend someone who you think is guilty and they are not convicted then the prosecution needed to do a better job, not that the defence was too strong. If the prosecution can’t prove that person guilty then one must ask why we believe they are guilty? Sometimes, the burden of proof is too high to be met with limited evidence. But that is for good reason. If it were the other way around, innocent people would be convicted because they didn’t have enough evidence to prove themselves innocent. Definitely not a perfec system. And people who are guilty sometimes get away with their crimes. But that is because the justice system is designed to protect innocent people. That means everyone gets a barrister who will defend them.

@@jacejohnson7113 ppl are still sentenced life for an ounce or two of weed lmao the justice system has and still is wack

@@arandomyoutuber6634 you shouldnt get jail time for having weed either. illegal or no, thats no justification for the harshness of the penalty of the law

To be fair, he would just get a shorter punishment if he just says that he’s guilty rather than continue lying.

@@Chromaspell um that happens in america not the uk. the case happened in the uk

@@Chromaspell life sentences for weed?? Where do you live?

Lol

I'm more interested in how someone got 6 months for stealing a frozen pizza. That seems like a lot. Edit: you people are way too literal.

@@dylancrouch273 Im surprised they didnt bring back hanging for this horrendous crime

@@dylancrouch273 they probably said it was the last one, nothing beneath murder for that

Who knows? Maybe they have a bias towards a particular kind of person. Perhaps they are deflecting attention from their own theft. Perhaps they're just faulty witnesses.

Lol

Because he has frozen spaghetti in them. Guilty.

@@charliefifield5783 it’s not cringe it’s just a prank bro

@@yeetedbot it's a social experiment

@@mahshshsrklingfa7031 it's a study

Cringe

"Yes your honor, he even said there's a camera right over there"

Was really inspirational for a person like myself who one day wants to become a Human Rights Lawyer

@@TagoMago2010 Definitely! Good luck on your law journey!

@@kingbernard_30 thanks man 🤝

"They may take our lives, but they may never take... OUR FREEDOM!"

He's a lawyer, these guys are the cream of the crop when it comes to speaking

lmao what. qwerty objects!

"He couldn't help it, he's such a Gemini! 🤪"

@@Retotion 🤪🤪😜😩

PLA

😐😐😐😐

Practice in the real world. I can assure you that you'd speak St least half as well when you're appearing in court a few times a week for months to years.

I’d rather be surrounded by decent people with regular IQ who can’t put a sentence together but tell the truth than people with an IQ high enough to lie and manipulate, trying to be economical with the truth.

Just because he is speaking smoothly does not mean he is honest.

@@Veilfire I don't believe they mentioned anything of honesty - where did that come from?

@@Veilfirewho askedV

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Crazy DIAMONDO

@@jkbruhbruh6358 the jojo fans are everywhere

@@jkbruhbruh6358 🗿

But at what cost?

Damn I coulda just watched your comment instead of this schmuck

This comment needs to be pinned

Thats a better answer.

This comment is really good.

This has given me a newfound respect for lawyers, thanks!

But record it a reasonable level so we can actually HEAR it. ☹

Yeah he should be a lawyer..

plus 1

sounds like john bercow a little

Yeah with decent recording equipment

no wonder he's a lawyer

huh

He practice it, part of the career

He sounds like some guy in a movie

The smoking probably played a role

like 6 months in prison for a TV dinner?

@@Slayer_of_Demons Listen buddy, we let one TV dinner go next thing you know they’re coming after our movie dinners.

Except it is rarely just .

@@Vietmac1993 He was innocent though. He told the truth and had nothing to come clean about.

@@Vietmac1993 Did you watch the video? He was innocent

Sadly in some countries like Japan you are guilty till proven innocent

It’s not a right, it’s not written down anywhere. The justice system is just designed in a way that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty, it’s not a right.

@@tex-mex4082Actually it is written down, article 11 section 1 of the UN universal declaration of human rights.

The next human rights should be food, water, shelter, healthcare, and education.

@@tex-mex4082it's written down like the comment said below

Basically. They also have to make sure the punishment isn't too severe for the crime, the system often adds extra to the case because they know defense lawyers argue stuff down. It's a pretty ridiculous cycle.

@@leepeffers9331 good point!

Yes agreed

Sure, but what happens in outlier cases? Where their is a boatload of circumstancial evidence and literally no one else fits the profile and the defendant keeps mocking the prosecution that they can get fucked cuz they aint gonna find anything hard on them so the defendant cant even be brought to trial. So basically the person is guilty and defense lawyer knows it too. Defendant gets to walk away even though everybody and their mother knows he was guilty. I'm assuming that IRL there are a lot of "perfect" crimes get done and all the Defense lawyer have to do is "My client says nothing and denies everything" to get that not guilty.

@@AngRyGohan lawyers don't always tell clients to dent accusations. Sometimes it's better to plead guilty. Also even with all of that stuff against one person there is still a good chance it's not your client.

That’s why it’s not actually like that

Welcome to ace attorney

Lol American legal system is shite Especialy nowadays lol

@@handsomejack7901 eh, the us prison system specifically is one of the worst in the world but the actual court system itself is one of the better ones out there all things considered.

@@handsomejack7901 The fact that they don’t know you is the whole point. If it was people you knew it would be impossible to eliminate bias based on whether they “feel like you’d do it.” But if you’re being judged by strangers the only thing they have to judge you with is the evidence.

"He said ong"

mum's soul

“On my moma I didn’t kill him” Understandable, have a nice day

"well why are you still here? youre free to go"

You know a nigga serious when he put it on his mama

Good for you. I hope you didn’t lose the right attitude you had as a child. I wrote laws when I was 10 and I would have liked to be a solicitor or a Judge.

Because it's not about proving an innocent person is innocent. That's the exact opposite of the entire ethos of the Western legal system. The burden of proof is not on the defense, it's on the prosecution.

@@Lucas-sk5iy Yes, that is essentially what I said...

And even if the person is actually guilty, they must have a defense no matter what. Lets say a man killed another person and that's a fact that everybody already knows in trial. His sentence length will be determined by a number of other factors that goes beyond the simple fact that he killed someone. It was an accident or not? If not, it was self defense or not? Again, if not, there was passion and/or other emotions involved or not? All this questions have answers that will determine the appropriate sentence and, for that to happen, the killer needs someone to defend him. And I can go further. Even if we knew that the guy was a cold blooded killer, he needs the RIGHT for a defense. Someone could ask "Why?". Because if he doesnt, where do we draw the line exactly? Where exactly do we say "this person cannot have a defense"? It is not possible to draw this line precise enough so that wouldn't happen misjudgments. That said, EVERYONE needs a defense, not matter what they've done. And if everyone needs a defense, there must be someone to defend even the most brutal murders out there. And this someone is only doing their job, acting in its role in the criminal process. Lawyers shouldnt be judged by that. Sorry for the broken english, not a native speaker.

@@Kimera92 Your English is fine. I always remember Star Trek TNG season 2 episode 9 - The measure of man. Riker must prosecute his freind Data on the status of being considered a person (Data is an advanced intelligent android). In the end Data thanks Riker, because Riker indirectly pushed Data to prove it to Star Fleet (the ones questioning his status as a person) in every possible way by asking hard questions. They both deep down knew he was a person, but they also knew how the Star Fleet courts work. I suggest trying to find some clips on youtube if you want or watch the episode, it's a good story.

lol wut?

I'm laughing to hide the fucking pain.

What did he do

@@user-wt8im2ro1p She’s a trans woman that did *things* with her mother that has dimensia, obviously meaning she can’t consent.

@@user-wt8im2ro1p Also KZfaq didn’t like me answering that lol

@@reneebear3641 Chris is a he. It's been confirmed that he puts the trans lady facade just so he could get a chance to sleep with lesbians. And, well, knowing Chris, it's definitely that.

Court appointed attorneys in the US don't really give a shit. They put the bare minimum effort into a case even if there is evidence that might prove the accused innocent.

Nice Esix pfp

@@rashira9610 So many cases, you are lucky if they read through your first name.

I didn't expect to get this recommended since I never search for either law subjects or Chris-chan on YT and I just know this will keep appearing for people who've been following his case. I'm getting a video about dementia as well. This thing reads minds.

@@dankigenki Chris chan, as awful and horrible a person she is, identifies as a women so please use she/her pronouns. Even the most depraved criminals deserve having their pronouns respected. In my opinion anyway. I'm drunk as I type this so if u disagree just put it down to me feeling pretty sentimental right now n dont come for me bc I am afraid of conflict please and thanksbxxxx

There are no consequences to doing it, so people online just assume things about you judging by one random thing, and genuinly think they know everything about you. It's dehumanizing really, and sad

i mean tbf there are some things that just yk you can't realllllly make up@@Kentai_Shimakaze like if you go ahead and go to your local wal-mart and just film yourself being an absolute jerk for 15 minutes all the while talking about tiktok clout and youtube subscribers, I'll say it's safe to call you a douche.

XJ9???? I'm sorry but you showed your whole ass on GD so many times that of course people found you offputting

i looked at your pfp and judged you immediately

Tbh this isn’t limited to the internet. Lay men do this all the time irl. They even feel entitled to it. The only difference is that it is easier to organize mass hatred towards someone on the internet than irl

Allow me to present exhibit A against this: Chris Chan

@@NiceColorss I don’t know who that is…

I love Ace Attorney

Ed SMM2 and why exactly did you feel the need to write out the entire case and spoil it for people who didn’t play the games yet instead of just referencing the case number?

Until the prosecutor updated the autopsy report

In an ideal world sure…but the disgusting crooks who keep crime boss’, political scumbag and more out of prison deserve a special place in hell

Indeed, even if they're guilty of "crime A" (I'm not very creative here), that then shouldn't be e.g. used to imply that they must have done "crime B", nor let personal opinions on someone affect how they get treated.

This has got to be the most delusional comment on youtube

Not sure I understand exactly what your getting at. It seems like your suggesting that a defense attorney’s job is, in part, to make sure the punishment fits the crime. You have to assume some level of guilt if you are to determine that the punishment fits the crime. As part of the system you might hope that it all amounts to a system where the “punishment fits the crime” but that is not the directive of a defense attorney.any more than it's a jockeys job to make sure that the best horse wins the race. The jockeys job is to try and make the horse they are riding win and a defense attorney’s job is much the same except the levels of control they have over winning are much different to a jockey. In terms of not assuming your clients guilt it, I might try to stretch that jockey analogy and say that you don't always know if your horse can win or not even if the odds are against them, sometimes an outsider wins the race but if you ride it like a loser then you almost ensure that it will lose.

Unless the defendant has money in which case a lawyer will defend them regardless of how heinous the crime. Knowingly taking the side of a dangerous criminal because they are paying you to keep them out of jail is lowly and pathetic. But yeah, keep idolizing our perfect “checks and balances system”

Conviction rate percentage dictates your job. Therefore you go heavy on guilty pleas and especially hard on anyone that chooses a trial.

You typically don't. If the prosecution doesn't have enough confidence they dont take the case.

I would defend a thousand guilty criminals before I prosecuted a single innocent person

@@JOBdOut yeah, lets just ignore the actual evidence, right?

@@lp.shakur not arguing hes guilty. I'm arguing the punishment doesn't suit the crime.

I mean no shit.

@@ShortArmOfGodLol this video and all the comments are basically saying nothing tbh

@@SJ-di5zu right!?? even the moron in the video doesn't answer the question. you weren't asked whether or not you think somebody is guilty, you were asked what you do IF you think somebody is guilty -- which we all do, whether we want to or not. also, it's a bit of a cop-out to use an example of a fucking petty thief to make his argument, probably because he knows if he uses a murderer or worse as an example, he'd come off looking like the muppet he is.

Deep, let us know what else you learn by the time you’re 6

The reason why shampoo has instructions lmao

Yea, i feel like im missing something from his story. People dont get 6 months of jail for stealing a frozen dinner 1 time.

@@pumpkin9916 obviously they do, theft is theft. Shoplifting is up to 6 months in prison and a fine of up to 1k.

I was just questioning that too.

Maybe mr. Smith was black

@@elliothammer9485 Bruh why you gotta bring race into this

People forget that anything can be a crime

​@@eneco3965yeah the amount of selectively enforceable laws that we're all breaking all the time is crazy. Ties into race a lot too, and just the wild amount of power we give our cops. Ugh

@@M-qw9ru How’s that related?

Its not. Its just something that constantly haunts his thoughts. Lol

@M-qw9ru biological sex is much more complex than just 'male and female', its a rather facinating topic that I'd definitely suggest you look into. Though, I doubt you'll do that, as you don't care about biology or the fascinating world of genes, chromosomes and our brains, you only care to punch down on those you see as below you.

Imagine stealing a 4 dollar meal to get free health care, shelter, food and work for 6 months

They really need to work on their punishments

@@hollowollowyeet886 they should focus on rehabilitation. If someone’s stealing a frozen meal more often than not it’s cause they’re struggling for food. Simply placing them in a prison will leave them in the exact situation except even worse off

That’s still a thing even today. The highest class misdemeanor for shoplifting is up to 2 years.

150 euro fine in the Netherlands for doing this

It shouldn't be possible to get 6 months for stealing a small amount of food in the first place. I don't even care what he'd done previously, he's clearly just trying to eat some food like. The system is a joke.

@@MilitantBlackGuy1 He stole from someone else. You never know if him stealing from someone else meant that they couldn't eat and they went hungry instead, because of the selfish actions of someone else. And that's why stealing and stuff like that will never be okay.

@@spy5765 He stole from a huge supermarket actually, it's detailed specifically in the video.

@@spy5765 get off KZfaq fr

@@spy5765 i respect your position but aiding the notion that businesses are people has done so much harm legally over the decades. That business lost nothing. Their loss recouped in loss prevention insurance. That man lost 6 months of his life and much more once he was out for having a conviction. Guess he should have just starved to death.

A lawyer doesn’t have to be someone who practices law but has learned and trained well about it. An attorney or “attorney at law” is someone who fills the criteria of a lawyer but also practices law in court. Or at least that’s what the internet says.

There really isnt a difference anymore but some Attorneys get butt hurt when you call them a lawyer

Solicitor vs barrister

There are a lot of lawyers in my family and I asked them the question and they said they can tell if someone is lying or not usually and if the client is lying to them they just don't take the case

The biggest liar wins.

Agreed

It's not a case of "if you think someone is guilty". It's a case of "knowing someone is guilty" and trying to get him off which is against the law.

@@alexanderevans7426 Doesn’t matter. If they aren’t going to plead guilty then they will need defense. Pretty sure attorney client privilege covers whatever “knowing they are guilty” liability you think the attorney should suffer

That’s a good answer. Much better than the one in the video that missed the point slightly.

@@alexanderevans7426 (It's a case of "knowing someone is guilty" and trying to get them off which is against the law) In the USA, a lawyer who refuses to defend a client because they know them to be guilty is themselves breaking the law and likely to be disbarred. Ex: You're defending a guy accused of murder. The prosecution has dubious evidence and there are holes in the stories of witnesses, etc. But then, the guy admits to you that he did it. You'd still have to defend him. And if you were to tell anyone of what he admitted to you, it would be an illegal breach of confidentiality and it would be inadmissible. Though if the lawyer knowingly allows false evidence/testimony, then that's illegal.

Wakakaka, those OVO do a watchparty on this vid man.

ON GODD

No one is suing Drake lol. If Kenny had any proof Drake would have been taken to court by now.

@@yarsaz4347you gotta be a drake fan with the way you missed the entire point of his comment lmao

Why r u here

Everywhere I go, I see your face

dude ive seen u somewhere

“I’m gonna post something very slightly related to the video and just not watch it. Then I can do the same to another video and farm those sweet sweet subscribers like Justin Y!”

couldnt agree more

“Your honor my client is not guilty because he said on my momma”

@@photns 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hello! EveryoneToday, I am inviting you to come to Jesus Christ and be sure you are truly following God and doing his will by repenting and being immersed in the Baptism of life. Please come and be saved and see the truth and love of God and his mercy and kindness and for yourself. He can lead us on the path of light that leads to Heaven. I hope you will consider it. May God bless you! 🙂

@Mo No who?

@@chanceweslowski7792 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8h8ftJ5qdetdoU.html

Ok that's a worthy joke

Fuck yeah it is

@@a-10warthog78 soiled it.

@@a-10warthog78 You just shat all over this man's joke with your attempt at comedy, I went from laughing to mildly agitated.

@@mrgainz7252 what did he say, I can't see his comment

You're arriving at the same answer he did except you're somehow still incorrect. If you KNOW they're guilty and are representing them I think you might be Saul Goodman.

@@CerpinTxt87 Nobody said ‘know’.

@@CerpinTxt87 Thats the bloody point: You never know. More generally (or philosophically) speaking there is not a single thing anyone knows about the world around us.

@@rangeldino2633 That (no one knows anything about the world) is not necessarily true. There are philosophical arguments against that statement (essentially you are stating the extreme anti-realist's position, realists have arguments against your views). If you want to learn about them and this debate, look it up. I am not capable of presenting good realist arguments well. I agree with you that no one can ever be 100% certain of an accused's innocence/guilt either way.

@@CerpinTxt87 even if you know they’re guilty, so what? He still has a right to defend himself, it’s up to the judge and jury to determinate guilt or not.

LMFAOO

😂

Deadass?

@@coalkingryan881 deadass.

But your client is atheist

Maybe you should be more diligent then. Not to say that this man is wicked or evil, but don't let yourself get fooled by someone who is and is pretending they're not

Cruz gomes you are missing the satire

@@dominicgallagher8930 you're missing the wisdom

@Sasquatch94 holy shit you’re crazy

@Sasquatch94 whos an edgy boi

So you have no moral boundaries?

​@@izi1902the emts are there to do what they can at an emergency, not decide who gets treated based on how they feel about it. Like a lawyer they don't have any right to judge you, what they think they know could easily be wrong and innocent people could die over it.

Nah. I feel like this is very different. I wouldn't refuse to treat him outright but feeling emphatic while doing a good thing for someone who destroyed a life in one of the worst ways possible is in no way any virtue, it's just tone deafness. Professionalism is a disease that needs to be removed from society, what we actually need is people that care for one another, and it seems that in your case you chose to care about your job more than that mother.

@@izi1902 What exactly do you expect him to do about his "moral boundaries"? Do you think a medical professional should murder someone (actively or through inaction) because of their "moral boundaries"? Did you actually consider what you're implying by asking that question?

@@A_Simple_Neurose lol What? There was no either or in that situation. He wasn't choosing between the mother and the driver. He was responsible for saving the driver. He saved the driver. What exactly do you think he should have done instead? Let the driver die? It is not and should not be his job to decide the guy's guilt or dole out punishment. He's not a judge, jury, and executioner. He's a medical professional. Your concept of "care for one another" is vigilantism. You might actually be insane.

what if your client tells you they committed the crime? edit: okay guys I get it now you can stop replying

Our justice system in the UK isn’t the same as the justice system in the US.

@@Ok-kx2te That client wouldn't have to hire a lawyer in the first place if its just going to confess.

@@Daftfuhrer they're talking about if the client tells they lawyer the truth. That's why they are a CLIENT.

@@Orapac4142 Fair enough.

What is lawful neuteral ? I’ve never heard this term before.

@@muggedinmadrid it refers to the Dungeons and Dragons alignment system that uses a two-axis method to abstractly define your general personality and worldview. These two axes are good-evil and lawful-chaotic with both having a neutral alignment between them, so by describing him as Lawful Neutral he is neutral on the good-evil scale but ascribes as lawful on the lawful-chaotic scale

The question in title remains unanswered! How do you defend somebody who you know for sure is guilty?

@@atheistfromaustria For a lawful neutral character, it doesn't matter if someone is guilty or not, good or evil. What matters is the law and the process. Everybody goes through it, nobody escapes it, nobody is denied it.

@@TheStrangerUpNorth9 dungeons and dragons ? That’s a game . Are you teasing me?

In the times we living in is guilty until proven innocent sadly

@@doejohn7548 Not quite. The more money, prestige, and PR you have plus race and gender considerations, the more likely it will be innocent until proven guilty. Poor Black/White/Hispanic males are more likely to be considered guilty until proven innocent compared to say Rich Asian/Indian/White females. And lets not forget appearance is a huge factor too, the more attractive you are, the higher chance of the public seeing you as innocent until proven guilty.

@@authenticinari-fox8164 makes sense im Hispanic so I get the race proportion of it as well as with the wealthy people too 💯

Men are guilty until proven otherwise vic versa for women

@@noexceptions8438 aww boohoo poor oppressed male

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He was just feeling quirky

This reminds me of Goofy's Trial by Filthy Frank

He's just a bit quirky

@@souppastes5519 they do get a bit quirky at night

His dumbass should have taken the plea deal rather than saying that it was a set up against him.

Ye but it was from M&S so probably cost about 200 quid

Lmao yeah what country is this? Somalia? Prison for stealing food? Wtf? A fine would be harsh lmao, half a year prison is incomprehensible. that's close to 1% of your entire life

If it was in America he's probably would've been shot

@@a_peridox what are you talking about?

Pretty much. Despite what a person is guilty of, they have to have appropriate charges for the crime. Defense isn't just about getting a not guilty verdict, but also making sure the client is fairly tried in general.

yeah i mean there is some cases wher old woman "steals" a wood from a big company property, and she got 5 years in prison, while a corruptor or money laundrying case only got 3 month in prison. wtf

@@fadhlissyafiqab4078 This ODDLY sounds like Indonesian case kek. Indonesian judicial system is pretty fucked up sometimes.

@@bimaakhmadi9466 it is lol hahahaha

I believe the word is "prosecution" not "persecution"

Yeah, there are so so so many cases where evidence can be misleading. Take every false accusation that has gone to court, won, and then in 30 years you find out that the evidence was fraudulent or that people actually did have a motive and an innocent man or woman lost 30 years of their lives for no reason or literally their lives. The absolute worst idea that can enter a court room is mob mentality. Following the pack on what happened and what didn’t as fact has never ever been a reliable way to convict.

John Adams, one of the founders of the US, Defended all of the British involved with the Boston Massacre, arguing that you can't be a free society if some members are not protected under the law. It cost him a lot of support, and loyalty, but he deemed it more valuable that every person receive the same rights and process under the law as anyone else. I think he got all of them acquitted or reduced except for one iirc, and his sentence was commuted to be served back in England.

@@3DOM_ i remember there was a guy who lost almost 12 years or more of his life because of something he didn't do

Yeah I do agree that people should have their rights, but I don't think it applies to every case. You're supposed to be telling what actually happen to your lawyers so they can defend you right? At some point the lawyers must know the truth if it's obvious.

@@mcromance257 why wouldn't it? Ideally you'd never ignite one way or the other. Justice is blind and what not. Wouldn't want to prejudice ones self.

Right, there's no way to really know.

Especially for the vast majority of cases. Like what are the odds you're going to be defending someone you know is a psychopathic mass-killer or r*post or something? Very low. More often than not, you'll be defending normal people who have been hard done by against a system that is itching to sentence them. That doesn't mean they're innocent, but I think it's easier to process when you realize 9/10 times your client is just some guy or girl.

I don't like this video. I think the question isn't about some he-said, she-said with some corrupt security guards. The question is about people with strong physical evidence against them, and a history of violence, that you're sure did the crime. But it's a dumb question anyways, because yes, everyone is entitled to a defense as they should be.

@@hansolo631 You've missed the point. Unlikely shit happens, and even if some guy is a serial violent offender, then if he wasn't really guilty of what he is being charged with, it means the guy who _was_ guilty is still out there, likely doing the same thing again and again. Pattern recognition is useful in everyday life but it isn't enough for criminal trials. The situation described in this video is already extremely unlikely, but there are other examples of similar things happening. Wal-Mart, for example, sabotaging their own self-checkout machines to falsely accuse people of stealing and then extort them out of money or else go against one of the biggest corporations in court.

Word. Laws are all manmade based on manmade morals.

It's called a criminal past. Pretty obvious. The more dumb and evil shit you do the more time you get.

@@INDRIDCOLD83 Stealing spaghetti doesn’t quite fill in with evil , but I get what you mean

@@thatguy5779 Wdym we have murderers, rapists and then a close third is stealing food bro XD

I smell bulls#1t...don't you?

By not pleading guilty like he suggested lol

Thanks so much.

I think it should be straight to the death penalty

@@goosegame3857 Chinese water torture.

A succulent ready meal?!?

ikr. could be repeated offense... iguess

@@REDACTED_7 maybe he assaulted a guard while escaping or something

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If they’re hardened criminals (eg rapists terrorists murderers, child endangerment, etc.) they don’t deserve any rights.

@@vinaynayak1993 yes they do. As awful as they are, if we create a pit filled with people unworthy of rights, it is only a matter of time before trials just become about shoving people down that pit of "arbitrarily evil enough people". And if you really think what you propose will help stop terrorism, then you should realize terrorists will be the first ones to try to abuse the system you advocate for.

@@vinaynayak1993 Terrorists and murderers, hmm ... well what if they were mentally ill, and forced to commit terrorists acts? Shouldn't they face a slightly lesser punishment? What if it was a child who raped? What if they asked for consent from another minor, and then legally commited statutory rape? Should they get life in prison, they were only a child when it happened! The basis of human rights are that EVERYONE gets them. Plus, your definition of "hardened criminals" is very... flimsy and therefore incredibly hard to go through with. There are plenty of circumstances that can happen that make people avoid the death penalty, even if they commit these acts. Your point does not make much sense to me.

freddy46 this is cute and all and sounds nice on paper. When your own family member is raped, murdered, or your own child is endangered, you’ll be in a courtroom hoping to rip the criminals guts off. Nice one though 👏 👏 👏

@@vinaynayak1993 so what should people wrongly accused of rape or terrorism do? How does your ideal system handle that?

Starting off with six months is insane, isn't it? Makes you wonder what's more likely; someone actually got 6 months for shoplifting or a rather huge chunk of this story got left out???

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What's more insane is the person who serves 6 months for something so small, and they go out and do it again, and again, and again.

@@MaticJ29 "This is America" explains a story about a UK man in a UK court. Ok.

Yeah, it’s a lie. No one gets 6 months for that.

You wildly missed the point.

The point simply was "even if I am sure he is guilty, might be wrong. So I should defend everyone the same way". As someone who used to be a police officer - I agree with him completely. If a guilty man walks free it is because the police and/or the prosecution failed to bring enough evidence to prove they are guilty. When The justice system was made they had to make a choice about what situation is worse : all guilty people in prison, but some innocent as well - or all innocent free, but some guilty free as well.

It is a trial. The trial is not over yet, ergo the defense is not guilty. It is not his job to determine if his defense is or is not guilty, that is for the jury to decide.

Just pretend he is not

​@@omkarwaman4944 The point of the video was that he was SURE the person was guilty - and only months later he found out that he was probably innocent. In the end of the day, if the prosecution can't convict a guilty person it is their fault for failing to prove it. The prosecution should take to curt only when they can prove said person is guilty (or at least think they can)

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@@AxxLAfriku what the fuck are you on about

@@pikeman7351 the dude goes around to a lot of videos, and comments to get more people to click on their channel profile. They've done it before to videos I've watched =u=

honestly

In the best way though

In the best way. Probably because he’s actually saying something and not just talking

Not sure that's a compliment

Damn Yoshi mains

I’m a 20-year police supervisor. This is exactly why I have respect for defense attorneys. They keep us sharp and make sure we do our jobs properly better than anyone else can. I’m constantly thinking “If I was a defense attorney, what hole would I poke into this investigation?”

@Accurize2 That is a really profound and reassuring comment from someone in the police force. I have no doubt you are an excellent copper and I can only hope you keep up the good work whilst maintaining the sanguine and balanced views to currently hold. I hope you are well and Kind regards, Dominic

​@@Accurize2 🙇 thanks for your service

@@Bewellbeonethis comment you right is so charming and uniquely British. How lovely.

@@saarza9991his service? He’s not a yank, bud. 😂

Bro he spent 2 minutes talking about mr smith, coming to the conclusion that he hadn't defended the guy properly and that he had been set up, spent 6 months in jail for nothing, and THEN HE DOESN'T EVEN EXPLAIN THE CONSPIRACY. Just goes on to say "I don't know who's guilty". WHY DID HE BELIEVE MR SMITH WAS RIGHT? WHY?

@@MrAykron Becausw Mr. Smith is a simple person and doesn't really have a reason to lie

@@MrAykron because he didn’t want to drag out the video with extra information that would leave the main idea. What the conspiracy was doesn’t matter. It can be as simple as they didn’t like how he looked, it doesn’t change the story.

That was what i was thinking too! I thought it would be like, one guard saw him acting suspicious around the aisle, then the one near the exit saw something bulging out of his pocket, and so on... Then I was like, wait, all four saw the exact same thing? That sounds like horribly ineffective way to guard a store

@@letsreadtextbook1687 the case is 25+ years old so it's easy to misremember things, or he could be simplifying details just to get the point across.

The guy had to be caught so maybe the security guards called for backup.

@@letsreadtextbook1687 If he's a repeat offender, and had a history of being there with items missing then you want a good number of witnesses, the more that can confirm your view point the stronger your prosecution (or defense vice versa) You don't get a sentence like that unless there is substantial evidence that he was a repeating stealing at the store. But if you are going to apprehend someone for a crime you need witnesses to avoid the 'He planted it on me' They probably passed details immediately to police if he got out unchallenged (or forced his way out). Dominic gave the case in a summary as the point he was making that while handling a case which was pretty much clear cut, he still had to remain impartial.

* speaks to the jury* the defense rests

I'm glad you mentioned she was female that was really relevant to the story

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​@@sowianskizonierz2693bro, they're just being descriptive.

@@Interweb_Gremlinmore like pointless details

@@Interweb_Gremlin I don't actually care but I guarantee no one would say "male lawyer" just to be descriptive

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Wrong place, the lawyer needs to visit psychiatrist channel after reading the whole narratives.

You really think he can afford a lawyer

@@notcrust9108 every defendant has the right to a lawyer still, chris chan’s lawyer must be dumbfounded by the accusations

@@notcrust9108 the goverment provides lawyers for suspects

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@@voltronimusprime3833 CWC, the most well documented man in human history.

Well, now I know why this just showed up in my recommended.

Theft is theft . This is the problem with the law and lawyers. Take for instance a stabbing, they with bargain it down from attempted murder down to assault, They will blame the crims childhood and every other thing, but has the impact changed for the victim, who's life has change forever? Did he become a little less stabbed ? Or because he has recovered lessons the severity of the crime? Just because he stole from a department store is not different to taking your wallet from your pocket. I believe this lawyer has left a lot out of this story as they do when they represent criminals.

@@robintully9742 the maximum sentence for petty retail theft in the UK for goods under £200 is 6 months in custody. The guy probably has a history of offences, or had some plausible reason to take revenge on the store, or something.

@@robintully9742 either way it’s literally just a ready meal. And because it’s 1 ready meal it probably wasn’t to sell it was for personal consumption, meaning that he only stole it because he was in a desperate situation. 6 months for that is ridiculous

@@robintully9742 the fuck is wrong with you? All theft is not identical, and context is incredibly important. It’s attitude’s like yours, even if you’re not American, that lead to America’s ridiculously high incarceration rate. Stealing some groceries is not comparable to more extreme theft and if you think it is then you genuinely need to seek help in regards to your empathy and morality

@@ramu-silly In Australia at the moment there is a lawyer who was given some info by her client which she handed to the police. It set about the interception of the biggest haul of illegal drugs coming into this country that potentially could have killed 1000's and put some of the biggest crims in jail for a long time. Its come out now what she did and lawyers are so enraged that they and how they advise their criminal clients and handle and hide crucial evidence they have banded together and the lawyer looks like going to jail and one by one the crims will be released , one has already been released.

To add to this, the prosecution must put up the most airtight case possible so they can ensure they are doing their part to see the jury only convict when they have no reasonable doubt of the accused’s guilt. It MUST be proven. Accurately. Without bias. With precision. With extreme adherence to the law. Nothing less. Then, and only then, can they rest easier knowing that someone’s innocence was removed. Innocence is precious and a right. Until PROVEN guilty. When a great prosecutor and a great defense attorney and a great judge and a great jury do their jobs, the system works!

But he stole it from Marks & Spencer's. That is not just food, _it's M&S food._

He’ll have likely had previous convictions for whatever else, may have even had a suspended sentence already.

@@jamesmacdonald5881Did you not watch the video? The story about the security guards framing him was actually true. I don’t see why we would assume he had previous convictions.

reminds me of a story my mum sometimes tells me about working as a court usher, one time she met a young man who was being taken to court over stealing a *toothbrush* from a supermarket, if i have to remember i think it was sainsbury's. i mean come on.

@@j.prt.979because he wouldn’t have gotten such a harsh sentence if he wasn’t previously convicted

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