Beyond The MXR Dyna Comp & Boss CS-3 Compressor [J Rockett Airchild, UA LA-2A, 1176 & Origin Cali76]
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Күн бұрынConfused about compressors? We explore some cool tones with a handful of comps old and new
Welcome to the show. We’ll stick our necks out and say that compression is probably the least well understood ‘effect’ of all when it comes to electric guitar. Good news - we’re not trying to explain it here! Nope, instead we get into some cool sounds and different ways to think about compressor pedals, starting with perhaps the two most famous of all: the MXR DynaComp and the Boss CS-whatever-number-it-might-be.
Having listened to those stalwarts, we move on to a small bunch of pedals with, shall we say, slightly more lofty ambitions. Without further ado, let’s get squishy. Erm, or not.
Enjoy the episode!
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Pedals & Stuff used in this show
• TheGigRig Three2One
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• Sonic Research ST-200 Turbo Tuner
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• Greer Lightspeed
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• ’70s MXR DynaComp [links to new version]
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• Boss CS-3 Compression Sustainer
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• Origin Effects Cali76 Compact Deluxe
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• Union Tube & Transistor LAB
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• UA Teletronix LA-2A
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• UA 1176
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• J Rockett Audio Airchild
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• Crazy Tube Circuits Sidekick Jr
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• TheGigRig G3S
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Interesting bits & go-to sections
0:00 Intro
1:53 How far have we come? Dyna Comp and CS-3
3:30 Today's new offerings
5:05 Amps today
5:20 Deluxe Reverb
6:10 Bluesbreaker love
7:08 Dan’s fave Dyna Comp
10:00 What does a compressor do?
10:56 BOSS CS-3
13:00 Max comp on the Dyna Comp
13:42 CS-3 high compression
15:30 What are we hoping to hear from the new compressors?
18:40 UA 1176 and the Cali76
24:00 Comp and Overdrive
25:30 Secret sauce for low-volume tones
30:00 UA 1176 parallel compression
32:30 Bluesbreaker and 1176
38:10 Teletronix LA-2A?
39:40 Union Tube & Transistor LAB
41:08 UA Teletronix
45:00 UA and LAB into the Bluesbreaker
48:10 What is a Fairchild compressor?
51:15 J Rocket Airchild Six Sixty
56:00 Thoughts on the Airchild?
58:00 Using a compressor as a boost
1:02:00 Thanks for watching
1:04:00 ALL ON!
Guitars used in today’s show
• PRS Myles Kennedy - no specific video yet
• Fender Custom Shop ’63 Telecaster - Dan’s video here: • That Pedal Show - Our ...
Amps used in this show
• Marshall 1962 Bluesbreaker combo (modern reissue) with 2 x 12-inch Celestion G12M Greenback speakers
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• Fender ’65 Deluxe Reverb with stock speaker
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@mattswanton795 3 ай бұрын
For a show about compressors, this one really helps to Decompress
@SessionGold 3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@rafsbio 3 ай бұрын
Oh you didn't!
@MagicPants647 3 ай бұрын
heehee
@CorbCorbin 3 ай бұрын
“Manic Compression is squeezing my soul!”
@basiltiffani8850 3 ай бұрын
Boooo.
@RenanSilva-ue5jp 3 ай бұрын
I've just left the experience day... I'll watch the full show soon. It is still hard to believe I just spent the day with these guys and that even after 10 years (I guess) learning with them I learned so much today. Not to mention they are even cooler live, it was amazing. If you can, do take the leap and go! It is a day, and experience, to be remembered! Dan, Mick, thank you!
@bradenrodriguez5183 3 ай бұрын
How great mate. What gear did you use? I had a dream I flew over from NZ to an experience day and Dan handed me his Les Paul to play. Hopefully one day!
@RenanSilva-ue5jp 3 ай бұрын
@@bradenrodriguez5183 they talked about a guy who did exactly that today, from NZ! I flew in from Romania, not as crazy but wild still. Their main rigs with their pedalboards and pretty much all the main guitars, including the vintage ones and Les Paul's. What a blast!!
@danottley2627 3 ай бұрын
😊 the experience days are awesome, I know just how you feel!
@bradenrodriguez5183 3 ай бұрын
@@RenanSilva-ue5jp Really? That's cool!... i gotta find a way. Happy for you man. That would've been amazing, even just their pedalboards and being able to turn it up loud. :)
@ThatPedalShow 3 ай бұрын
You’re so welcome mate, great to meet you 🤓🙏
@johnsawyer6145 3 ай бұрын
Over 20 years ago - as a novice in electric guitar technology - I walked into a music store and said I wanted a pedal that gave me more “sustain.” What I really wanted (without knowing it at the time) was an overdrive pedal. What I got was a two-knob Maxon CP-101. I used that thing for years - never really connecting with it. What I wish I had done was ask the music store people for a tutorial in different kinds of pedals and what they do. Grateful for the weekly tutorials and inspiration that I get from y’all! Keep it up! 🤘😊👍❤️
@chesneytube1 3 ай бұрын
it's weird that they often call compressors 'compression sustainers' when they don't actually create more sustain compared to fuzz, od etc
@marmaladecreammedia 3 ай бұрын
I have a reissue CP101 and I love it! It's an optical comp so, to me, it sounds more natural than the dyna/ross style comp, but if you crank the sustain knob it can get plenty grabby.
@johnelcanrab2114 3 ай бұрын
@@chesneytube1I get my cali 76 stacked to infinite sustain when clean. So not always true, your theorom..
@starshineraiser6729 3 ай бұрын
I’ve owned so many high end compressors. The Boss CS3 and old silver Keeley C4 are by far my favorites. I can’t stress it enough, the CS3 is more fun to use and sounds so much better than any $400 comp I’ve owned.
@tomashguitar638 3 ай бұрын
I tred everything, I too still use CS-3 for over 15 years now. It’s the only real dbx160a in a pedal
@popcorny11 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Have yall ever tried comparing those same higher end compressors against CS2? I have one from long ago and have been itching to see if these fancier options offer anything “more”.
@tomashguitar638 2 ай бұрын
@@popcorny11 CS-1 and CS-2 have nothing in common with CS-3, they’re OPA compressors in the Dynacomp camp. CS-3 is dbx VCA compressor in a pedal, with dbx/THAT chip and dbx patented circuit topology. The only other dbx-in-a-pedal that I know of is Maxon CP9 Pro + but I heard it’s discontinued (not to be mistaken with regular Maxon/Ibanez CP9 which is another OPA comp).
@popcorny11 2 ай бұрын
@@tomashguitar638 Thanks a lot, now I know. Didn't understand enough back then and I actually picked the CS2 because it seemed simpler to use.. I just didn't really get it. Now there are so many to choose from..
@tomashguitar638 2 ай бұрын
@@popcorny11 Luckily you can find used CS-3 anywhere… start with the attack knob at max (it’s actually release time set at fastest release) and you’ll find usable sound pretty soon…
@brettfairbrother6804 3 ай бұрын
It’s pretty funny because these these guys never had it deluxe Reverb on here and I see it almost every video and I’m glad about it
@michael_caz_nyc 3 ай бұрын
Fender Amps Rule. I love their Pristine Cleans.
@musictimewithjoel3020 3 ай бұрын
I saw the title and was hoping the new wampler ego 76 would make it on here. Maybe next time! The ego has been one of my favorites, it’s always on when I’m playing bass. Thanks for the awesome show!
@TheFeelButton 3 ай бұрын
Suppression of expression about my compression impression was a repression bordering on oppression. Cheers Dan and Mick!
@ebeep 3 ай бұрын
The CS-2 is my favorite comp for my rig/hands/ears. Long attack time preserves transients in a way that I find more natural and musical than a "clean/dry" blend. The "dry" signal in all pedal comps with a blend that I have ever encountered (all of them? UA1176, Ego, Cali76, Keeley Comp+, Deep Six, etc. etc.) isn't the acutal bypassed signal but instead is buffered signal tied to those compressor's level/output control which does color the "clean/dry" signal in my experience. Also, I run compression before drive. For me, this provides far more transparency, bandwidth, and more sustain, which frees up the drive pedal to focus on the amount of desired clipping...which ends up being less than would be used otherwise imho.
@ryanmaroney4793 3 ай бұрын
Really fascinating that in a studio environment you'd have these at the end of your chain going into your mic preamps. So the effect that most are used to hearing on albums or in the studio is at the end of the chain after all effects and amps (typically). I use the Cali 76 stacked on my lap steel board right up front for all things grabby and it works wonders on the sustain.
@erik2446 3 ай бұрын
Just wanted to thank you guys for all your hard work on this very helpful and nerdy video! 🔥
@colej3360 3 ай бұрын
Compression is a must have for me. I only use it subtly but it just makes the guitar come to life.
@t3golf 2 ай бұрын
Yay!!!!!! I’ve been waiting for you boys to let loose the BB!!! I’m so happy.
@joakimflinck8208 3 ай бұрын
Extremely eye-opening, great job.
@ModManJam 3 ай бұрын
Great show as always, Gents. Got my TPS T-Shirt this week, great quality fellas!
@SamColson4 3 ай бұрын
Skipped to the end to hear 'all on' - Dan's playing is amazing! Looking forward to going back and watching the rest of the episode now...
@markkempster7367 3 ай бұрын
Love how when mick kicks things off, Dans look of contentment of his playing is priceless. Love you guys!
@gbarge4 3 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness, dear, dear mates. I've been having the compressor blues for a few months now, and you come up with this. Thank you so much. Your timing is uncanny. I've loved the Cali76 as a light, always on in front of the board (after fuzz) but it's been on the blink twice, now. First time was an expensive round trip back to the UK from California, feeling thrilled to get it back. Now it's on the blink again, hissing and crackling like an old '50s television. Haven't got on well with the Union T&T nor the Zenith. Have depended on a Fairchild plugin while on a crash course learning recording and mixing six songs. (inspired in part by Dan's EP) It's been the most reliable overarching plugin, especially on the mix bus but also on individual tracks (lifesaver on background vocals). Could the Airchild really be the one to chase away these blues with the light compression I've loved from the Cali76 on the board? Really need to hear one in person. It seems so silly but thank you so much for highlighting this pedal.
@periloustemple8290 3 ай бұрын
I did not think it could sound that good with all those comps on! That was epic!
@craigridley9618 Ай бұрын
Lovely to see the LAB getting some love, it’s my favourite too! Cracking stuff lads! Fun stuff throughout as always!!
@Frankie_Holt 3 ай бұрын
That’s one of the best sounds I’ve heard with that PRS
@noRest4Gary 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the historical mini-dives paired up with the newer compression flavor examples very much. Well done guys!
@jamesrichardson4988 3 ай бұрын
Perfect timing lads...I'm in the market for my first compressor and was looking at the LA-2A, thanks so much!
@XxXHardcoreshredderxXXxxxxxxxx Ай бұрын
A real one? Or the pedal?
@joetoe9207 2 ай бұрын
The ending. Love it!!!!
@EricNielsen85 3 ай бұрын
New TPS episode day it's always a good day.
@SickVanWicked 3 ай бұрын
Watched the show this morning and immediately afterwards purchased the Airchild on Reverb! Lol, I've never done that before. It just sounded so musical. Thanks for a great show on modern compressors and their very usable techniques in parallel compression and boost.
@robm709 3 ай бұрын
great show guys! wouldve like to have seen the new Boss Compressor the CP-1X. I think it sounds fantastic & their's little out there on it.
@nonemlinus 3 ай бұрын
Guys, thank you! I’m newish to tube amps and pedals but I just got the 1176 a few weeks ago, loving it and learning so much still. This discussion was super helpful and well timed! Peace!
@Robstafarian 3 ай бұрын
If you have any questions about tube amps, I will be glad to answer them.
@HeikkiRHackman 3 ай бұрын
Oh! Here came the happy Friday . Thanks a lot for this video gents. I really liked the Airchild. However would happily use them all as Dan does in the end.
@scottcurry4116 3 ай бұрын
Another great show. I’m still learning how to use a compressor in my rig. Currently use a Suhr Woodshed in the front to add some warmth and boost. These look interesting for end of chain. Many thanks!
@conwaycampbell1082 3 ай бұрын
This show completes my week and I can count on it doing so. Thanks for being so consistent and enthusiastic. You guys are the best! 🤗
@Peterbrendanalbert 3 ай бұрын
Yup, just Yup.
@WillBrahm 4 күн бұрын
You guys are just really the best
@D1570R73D 3 ай бұрын
No need to apologize for your playing Mick, sounded great on my end!
@sixslinger9951 3 ай бұрын
Dan knocked it out of the park with the ALL ON ending!
@FakeGlasses 3 ай бұрын
Having been through the boss cp-1x, the compadre, the cali 76, the xotic, the keeley, I’ve found the diamond eq/comp (which is basically the diamond or diamond jr) suits me best. Optical comps ftw.
@experimentalchris 3 ай бұрын
Great show, guys. I was kind of shocked how much I loved the UA 1176...to my ear, it sounded even more transparent than the Cali76 which has quite the reputation, and which didn't make a lot of sense since the UA is digital and the Cali is analog. Another thing about the UA is I believe if you buy the UA MAX, you essentially get all those same options (in addition to the other algos), plus EQ is available in the app, so you would essentially have a tone control with that. The J. Rockett was impressive but I got the sense that I liked it more because of the way it interacted with the amp than because of the characteristics of the pedal itself. It also seemed to be the one that sounded most like the CS-3. Anyway cheers. PS I literally said out loud to myself "Thank you, Dan" when he demoed the noise floor of the Cali because I play quietly enough that the noise floor of my compressor is a big deal!
@jtcolecomedy 3 ай бұрын
Jimmy Page was a huge Little Feat fan and they were one of the target bands to get on the lineup at Knebworth! Lowell used 2 Dyna Comps, I've read. Any talk of the Feat is a good thing! Great video. Y'all taught me everything I know about compression.
@ToddTheJoker 3 ай бұрын
Great show guys! I have a 4 button compressor on my board and it just gives that extra little something something that makes great tone! also use it as a boost if I need one! Thanks guys! AND if anyone is on a budget but still wants a good little compressor, the Mosky Mini C4 compressor pedal is a fantastic way to start your compression journey!
@Peterbrendanalbert 3 ай бұрын
Mick knows how many notes to play in the bar, always a pleasure.
@eoinjennings519 3 ай бұрын
The sustainer part of the cs3 really useful - nice pedal
@ThomasHope73 3 ай бұрын
People often talk of losing attack with compressors, BUT… you can also use them to boost the effect of the transient, by reducing the attack time so it let’s the transient through, then compressing the tail of the note. If you use two compressors you can use one for boosting the transient, to preemptively compensate for the second compressor that squashes the whole note then slowly releases it to boost the tail. Best of of both worlds, with less compromise than just mixing in Dry signal, although of course you can do this as well.
@CorbCorbin 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I got a DSM & Humboldt ClearComp 1078 over Christmas, when I saw a place was having a clearance sale, for $99 while supplies last. I’d seen them for awhile, but at $250, it wasn’t really something I thought was affordable for how little I use them. Getting that ClearComp, has changed my view on them. I can set it for squishy, but I like the attack low, with the release longer, then I put the blend at 70%. It just adds a fattening, snd it really tightens up my gain tones, with longer sustain, at the same volume.
@musicmann1967 3 ай бұрын
"I wonder what the settings are" gets me every damn time!! lol
@stanislavmigra 3 ай бұрын
I was not expecting such an interesting episode. Very informative. Bottom line, the UTT LAB compressor is AMAZEING, not for the compressing, but the way, how it colors tone. Like the tone enhancer, I was trying to achieve by boosts or drive. But I need compressor, who would have though.
@wvo2m 3 ай бұрын
I loved the cs-1. Wish I still had it.
@SCA83 3 ай бұрын
Great episode! Think I saw Dan hit 108db at the end with all the comps on - outstanding sir 😁
@analogoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
I don't care what the settings are; they will be different on my amp/in my room, anyway, lol. Great show, guys!
@jloiben12 3 ай бұрын
Ahhh yes. More overdrives for your clean tone. Very nice
@Total_Bolles 3 ай бұрын
You get all the tone points today. More country licks from Dan please. And a that dang PRS. Thst model just sounds so good.
@tedadlington1777 2 ай бұрын
Thank you VERY MUCH FOR THE COMP SHOW. Like Mik🎉e I love the squoshy sound for country and a Tely. Very helpfull
@compucorder64 3 ай бұрын
Awesome, literally exactly the roundup I wanted to see. Just started looking into Airchild this morning. Had been on the lookout for an Origin Cali '76. But they're a bit pricey in Europe. The Airchild is quite a bit cheaper even than a second-hand Cali 76 here. The compressor I'm using atm is the Dark Glass Hyperluminal. It's very cool for guitar, when set that way. The SYM mode can really smooth out an overly spikey bridge pickup when using a trebley amp like a Vox AC. I agree with Dan, I'd choose between the Airchild and the Tube & Transistor Lab. If the pricing/availability was the same, I might go with the LAB. But because it's cheaper/easier to get the Airchild, I tilt toward that. That tone control makes it ideal as a front of pedal board effect, especially when you are switching between using different guitars. Because you can set the level, and balance the tone quickly. I honestly thought that only the Airchild & the Tube & Transistor had a nice character. The Origin has a character, but not sure I like it. And UA pedals sound nice and transparent but lack character - I'd use them end of chain, or in a mix, as transparent comps, not as guitar effect comps.
@therecordfable 3 ай бұрын
Bought the Empress MKII a few months back and it opened my eyes to what a compressor can do. If you're still on the fence about them give it a try. I use it as an insert with my Audient iD44 MKII as well, fwiw. Killer results all around.
@planetpjr 3 ай бұрын
Love that Hunter Thompson style guitar solo, all compressors on, wild and gonzo. That's was classic had to be there rock magic!
@Right_in2 2 ай бұрын
Love it!
@ThoM45x 3 ай бұрын
That Pedal Show knows that I am in the market for compressor, so they released a video specially for me.
@hansbenard2867 3 ай бұрын
A slow release time on the cali76 stops the compressor from pumping! Chears guitar brothers!❤
@matrixstar2767 3 ай бұрын
Wish you had the Boss CP1X Wanted to hear your thoughts about it
@benspinks342 3 ай бұрын
Great show as ever. I just got the LAB and it's a great compressor. It shocked me a bit because the attack is pretty robust past 10 on the comp dial. It's got a real thwack to it, but it does make a great boost/conditioner when set low.
@philipmarsh3522 3 ай бұрын
Dan, whatever they are feeding you has brought back the full, thick and … not snowy white … beard! Good on you, Mate!
@Peterbrendanalbert 3 ай бұрын
Just For Men.
@Nightpants 3 ай бұрын
Dude, That face coif is bangin'!
3 ай бұрын
Well done guys! Would have love to see the new Bondi Squish As, it is a wonderfull yet simple to use comp.
@daveoschman5024 3 ай бұрын
Awesome Show guys!!! I really like the J Rockett Audio Airchild, you kind of get the cranked amp compression sound. Would have been interesting to hear the new Wampler Ego 76 compared to the other two 76's
@Kevin-the-Just 3 ай бұрын
Yay! Been waiting for that Bluesbreaker to appear in a show.
@ThatPedalShow 3 ай бұрын
Sorry Kevin, it wasn’t really happening today!
@johnthursfield3056 3 ай бұрын
First mention I can remember of Lowell George on TPS, pure taste
@soulisthegoal96 3 ай бұрын
There's an old episode about learning slide with Ariel Posen. They mention him there : )
@ES-qm5hr 3 ай бұрын
I think the LA-2A circuit is very much a sounds better effect rather anything else. Basically, I don't use it as a straight limited amp, or compressor, I just put stuff through it because it makes things just sound better. I use an rack version via a mixing desk.
@davidkeane2399 2 ай бұрын
Love the Wampler Ego live, but in the studio I have Arturia's compressor pack. Absolutely stunning sounds and beautiful reproductions of classic on board Comps. A wonderful world to dive into
@fantomefx 3 ай бұрын
Very cool !!!!!!! Nice !!
@musicmann1967 3 ай бұрын
I'm like Dan, I love it squishy! But for an (almost) always on type of compressor I use an Origin Effects Cali76 stacked version which is amazing. Just dial in a healthy amount of dry signal for extra sustain without sacrificing dynamics. Thats usually on my board. As alternatives for different uses, I have a Janglebox, and a Dynacomp too. I LOVE compression. This is a cool video guys, thanks!!
@steveymoon 3 ай бұрын
Really helpful episode, thank you. It's actually cured my phobia of compressors as being the thief of dynamics. It's also cured me of my desire for a Marshall Bluesbreaker. That amplifier is really not very nice at all. Great work all around, gents. You guys are absolutely fab.
@ThatPedalShow 3 ай бұрын
You’re not wrong about the BB today. Sounded terrible! Not sure why. Sorry BB users!
@manifestgtr 2 ай бұрын
My two mainstays are the cali76 and actually the PRS Mary Cries (an la-2a type circuit). The Mary Cries has been living on my acoustic board because it’s so nicely transparent and friendly sounding and the cali76 into a king of tone has been my main overdrive sound for about five years at this point. Going into a bassman, it’s simply the greatest drive sound I’ve ever used and I have no need to change it up. For some patches I use the king of tone after the cali and I think I may even have one where it’s king of tone overdrive, cali, king of tone boost or possibly the reverse…I forget. The only other drive I need is some species of tubescreamer…I have a mini on my big board and a palisades on my touring, carrying around, “needs to be smaller because it often sits next to my acoustic board” board. You know your professional life is starting to get out of control when you have four distinct pedalboards 😣
@mikedr1549 3 ай бұрын
Mick's tone on the (F)Airchild was killer!!!
@hinterlandrider5300 3 ай бұрын
Great video guys, Im surprised you didn't have the new Wampler Ego 76 in this shoot out as well.
@alguitarchristie 3 ай бұрын
I have the Unit 67 from drybell,the main reason is because of the equalisation. These all sounded great in their own way and the amps sounded especially lovely today. The Boss can stay in its box!
@Unusednickname_1970 3 ай бұрын
The Unit67 is a surprisingly good compressor, despite only having one control. It’s dialed in perfectly for the electric guitar. Fantastic pedal.
@jasonwilsondrums5175 Ай бұрын
The UAFX Teletronix LA-2A MIX control is a dry level control, and should be fully counterclockwise to listen to what the pedal is doing. It’s effectively a dry level blend, adding up to 6dB of dry level. In this video because so much of the dry level was introduced, it was effectively being used as a boost rather than listening to the compression characteristics. The MIX control should be fully counterclockwise, and use the PEAK and GAIN control to experience an LA-2A on your pedal board. Then, use the dry mix control (more dry is clockwise, up to 6dB of added dry signal) to blend in a bit of original dry signal to taste, if you really want or need to. It would be nice to see a video where this pedal gets a fair shake against the others, it really sounds incredible!
@waynerd 3 ай бұрын
Nothing is more boring than a Klon shootout except a compressor shootout. Yet here you are making it and we're all loving it. I think we may be sick individuals, lads. Cheers. Thanks much!
@periloustemple8290 3 ай бұрын
I just love this episode so much! And am currently shopping out a compressor for my rig. My take away: I love the Boss more than I realized - and Davy G was using that instead of the MXR by some point in the 80's (but eventually went to the Demeter, I think). I am still thinking about Wampler's take on the LA-2. My understanding is that the UA's are digital - but that did not seem to impact the quality at all in this episode. They both sound great! I bought mic pres recently (thanks, Mick!), so my fun tokens are not enough for the Cali! Love to you all!
@hoboroadie4623 3 ай бұрын
The simulation seems to be more than adequate for the task. The hoboroadie has a mental defect that requires I use a physical emulation, so I am saving up for UA's rack unit.
@mattiv1 3 ай бұрын
No Empress compressor for comparison?! it sounds sooo gooood! Btw. That Union thing, man... so much juice
@Peterbrendanalbert 3 ай бұрын
Glad I emptied my bank for the JTM45. It does that thing. Good to see it did that to Dan too.
@onurbektas7074 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I know that'd be a different format, but I'd prefer to hear all the compressors with some 'sweet spot' settings, back to back, all gain matched (more or less). Without any commentary, played with two different guitars. I'd like to hear 3 first position chords played lively, a controlled arpeggio part and a simple melody line. It'd help me observe what each pedal does to the envelope of the signal, noise floor, any special characteristics etc. Then, I'd like to have your observations, how it feels, how you would use them, what you like and not, how to combine them with other effects or more compressors etc. And of course, that would be great to hear them in a mix. I know it's a lot to ask for, but you guys are the best. Cheers!
@deanroddey2881 3 ай бұрын
I wasn't able to watch the entire video, but one thing that should be mentioned (if it wasn't) is that you get two completely different effects by using a compressor pedal before the amp vs. using (even the same style of) a compressor on the way in after the mic. In the former you are limiting the dynamics of the signal the amp is responding to, so less touch sensitivity. That may or may not be a good thing, depending on what you want. In the latter case, you are keeping all of the amp touch sensitivity but then limiting the dynamics of that. They both have their pros and cons, and of course you might choose to do both. You could choose something grabbier before the amp, and then something with a slower response in the way in to put back a little bit of the attack, in a very controlled way. Or you might use something slower on the way in, for instance to get a nice swampy sounding rhythm part where it's pulling down just long enough after the strums, but then something fast on the way in to catch any possibly misses. And it has to be said that a lot of pedals are a best roughly based on or even vaguely based on the original gear. Anything claiming to be a Fairchild, for instance, when you couldn't even fit one of the ELEVEN transformers from the real unit, or the twenty'ish tubes. The 1176 had a big toroidal transformer I think. And any of the tube based gear like the LA-2A was running them at far higher voltages than any pedal could, I would imagine (given that I almost electrocuted myself building an LA-2A clone back in the day.)
@johnfrewin7717 3 ай бұрын
Love to see an “ effect du jour” with the new Wampler ego76 - which seems to be his take on the best of what you covered here, also I think it was his vid that showed the diming of the 1176 rack “ led zeppelin “ style👍🎸
@jasonphillipsvideos 3 ай бұрын
Shout for the Thorpy Fat General! Blend & Shine (tone). Juice. SO good. I know you can't get them all in here but it's a great one.
@HarrowingShadows 3 ай бұрын
You guys ever heard of the band "Earth"? Their sound is defined by compression into slight drive for sustaining purposes. Easily my favourite band and my guitar hero
@Durgo25 3 ай бұрын
Awesome stuff. You could use a Lehle parallel to add dry signal to the Dynacomp or CS-3.
@btkenobi2 2 ай бұрын
How does it work?
@thaddeusfields4360 2 ай бұрын
Dave Barber made the first parallel compressor in a pedal, the Tone Press. Would have loved to have seen it on this episode. Maybe in future episode? 😃 Edit: they gave Dave some love. Great that these guys know their gear.
@blakejohnstonmusic 3 ай бұрын
Led Zeppelin used two 1176s to get the distorted guitar sound on Black Dog. Direct into the board then two 1176s in series.
@davedavem 3 ай бұрын
"It's an overdrive for you clean tone!" *takes shot*
@eoinjennings519 3 ай бұрын
That Dynacomp does both types of music Country and Western - Rawhide !
@ThatPedalShow 3 ай бұрын
Hahaha! In A. Good country key.
@NewPraetorianBlues 3 ай бұрын
That UA 1176 pedal is so unassuming, but it's breathing fire. I want it lol
@paulojoaquim2723 3 ай бұрын
Great video as always, compressors for me was the toughest pedal to get it right, went through several and settled on a CompIQ MINI pro from Becos Fx , this are fantastic compressor pedals from Romenia, now based in Austria I believe, do check them out if you don’t know them…
@gcvrsa 3 ай бұрын
I have to say, I cannot imagine how one could produce an episode entitled, "Beyond the Dyna Comp and CS-3", and not feature the Boss CP-1X, tc electronic Hypergravity (and Hypergravity mini and SpectraComp), and Source Audio Atlas, the three most popular multiband digital compressors on the market. Multiband digital compression is dramatically superior to analogue wideband (or single-band) compression, in my opinion, even compared with units like the Cali 76, which has an HPF operating on a sidechain to reduce the tendency of the compressor to trigger prematurely on low frequencies. Although I do admittedly use compression more often on bass guitar (virtually always) than on guitar (only occasionally), after having switched to digital multiband compressors, I would never go back. Honestly, because compression is a tool that many people don't really understand how to use effectively, my first recommendations for pedal compressors are the Boss units, the CP-1X Compressor for guitar and the BC-1X Bass Comp for bass guitar. They are simple, straightforward, have visible metering, are reasonably priced, and are a leap forward for musicians.
@mikesmith2430 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to see the guys do the CP-1X and maybe other digital multiband compressors as a seperate episode... maybe comparing and contrasting with things like the CS-3 so we can hear the differences 👍🏻 😊
@Spuzzmacher 3 ай бұрын
I hate to be the “you didn’t talk about MY favorite pedal” guy, but for years I’ve been noticing a distinct lack of Effectrode pedals appearing on TPS where they seem like they should be featured, but if we”re talking about compressors and the hugely popular Effectrode PC2A doesn’t show up, it has to be bc we’re finally going to talk about their massive, over the top, 3-tube LA2A that both Phil Taylors and Gilmour himself developed. Nope, once again completely MIA. ???
@carpediem4413 3 ай бұрын
CP-1X is awesome. Sold my Cali76 & Keely.
@risteardohaodha23 3 ай бұрын
I’ve just been to one of their experience days and all I can say is that they are doing their utmost best to bring us Quality videos every week. Even though they are inundated with pedals from manufacturers hoping to get their product on the show, they just can’t feature every single pedal that’s on the planet. I think it’s important to get perspective on what they are providing and be grateful.
@kanehicks9321 3 ай бұрын
Hey fellas 👋 I would’ve liked to have seen the Empress Effects version of compressor as well 🇨🇦 just for comparison. Great playing and demo too!! 🎸🤘🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@GxBxN 3 ай бұрын
Please try and review the Boss CP1-X Compressor! It’s a real sleeper that no one is talking about! 🔥 would love to hear your thoughts!
@murphytoonz 2 ай бұрын
I've had dozens of comps over the years, Ross, Dynacomp, slide rig original big box etc etc and the one that's been on my board since it came out and is used almost daily is the Orange Kongpressor. Fantastic sounding, very versatile and doesn't cost a fortune. Wampler 76 coming soon. Good grief, it never ends.
@adammartinguitar5436 3 ай бұрын
Not too clued up on compressors I always feel like theyre just for funk so this will be interesting!
@CorbCorbin 3 ай бұрын
Gilmour sometimes had three or four*, on his pedalboards. He was using it for sustain, as well as to grab the note, but he didn’t really get squishy until The Wall. *I think he only used them one at a time. Maybe each was for different effects, as the compressors were usually spread throughout his effects.
@houseofshred3725 3 ай бұрын
Man, the Cali76 is really awesome.
@ThomasHope73 3 ай бұрын
The UAFX Cali76 Stacked Edition is expensive, but using its two compressors (one for attack, one for sustain) gives the ultimate control. 👌
@guitarfotos 3 ай бұрын
The stacked is the best compressor out there right now, it’s amazing!
@alessandrodecarli2462 3 ай бұрын
Ok, today we’re facing some of the most beautiful sounds in the World, past and presents…but, for me, UA strikes again and I personally found 1176 more “organic” and “musical” than the Cali76…but, as always, is just about personal taste…❤
@edlib02169 2 ай бұрын
I read once that the tone on Black Dog was a direct guitar fed into one ultra squashed 1176 into a second such unit. Hence the Led Zeppelin setting.
@Piplodocus 2 ай бұрын
The "all the cpmressors" sound was one of the best tones I've ever heard! 🤣
@carpediem4413 3 ай бұрын
Boss CP-1X is awesome (replaced my Cali76 & Keeley C+) Probably too much splitting of hairs when it comes to compressors as they are not that apparent like an OD would be. That being said , the CP-1X is not very “squishy” it’s more of a transparent studio compressor (it doesn’t cut bass like the Keeley and others do).
@phishfan 2 ай бұрын
Great stuff as always, gents! Curious if either of you have tried the TC Hypergravity and if so, thoughts on its digital take on the compression world? Interesting in that, as I know you are aware, one can deep-dive into all parameters to custom tailor the effect and/or download other Toneprint presets (if desired- of course it is not necessary). Just wondering if you have compared one to higher-end pedals as demo'd here and in your other compressor videos.
@analogoutdoors 3 ай бұрын
I run an MXR Dynacomp 2000 series, and have for probably 30 years. I use it with gain slightly above unity so that it is slightly pushing, and the sustain knob at around 9 o' clock. The only person who can probably hear or feel what is going on there is me. Anything more and I don't really like what it does to the bottom end. But I would never want to be without it. It is an always on pedal for me.
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