Why was the Probe Ford's "New Coke" moment?

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In 1985 Coca Cola released new Coke. In a move that became the poster child for one of the largest catastrophes in marketing history, they ended production of the Coke taste people loved and replaced it with something they didn’t want. Just two years later Ford nearly followed Coke with a Japanese engineered, front wheel drive Mustang that didn’t even have an all-American V8. Thankfully wiser heads prevailed, although in a rush to find a new name for the car Ford did use a pre-approved name that sounded more like some sort of medical device. So, why did Ford approve a Mustang replacement customers revolted over, and what did they think of it when it was launched?
Music for the launch of the Probe: "Church of 8 Wheels" from the KZfaq audio library.
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@lastsplash6
@lastsplash6 3 жыл бұрын
The styling on the second generation Probe was ahead of its time.
@khajiit8221
@khajiit8221 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree it is a great looking car. I remember people saying it was "Too American". But I always liked them, especially a 24V in dark blue, best looking in my opinion.
@chuckwhitson654
@chuckwhitson654 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a 3-4yr old gt with low mileage but a bad turbo, and continued to dump money into it for another year before giving in to my girlfriend who though I told her it was junk she drove it with very few problems to my surprise, until it caught fire on the highway and burned completely ( no surprise) I have never missed the car or the girl
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s 3 жыл бұрын
that is the truth, the first time i saw it ,i wouldn´t guess it was a ford , it looked like a modern car
@RUfromthe40s
@RUfromthe40s 3 жыл бұрын
@@chuckwhitson654 it seemed you could had fix it cheap, if the problem was the turbo ,this because i saw so many proebes in europe that nobody seemed to have problems with this particular car the 90´s one or the second model , the first time i heard of it ,but in reality they disapear very fast, maybe they work good for some years and later it atrts to have problems but this after 10 years of driving them, and if it was a kind of mazda rx-7 ,one of the car i ´ve enjoyed the most was a late 80´s mazda rx-7 i had, only sold it because i hadn´t room to store it, but my father had the previous model ,wich i kept for being a reliable car,mazda where i live is one of the most looked for cars but till 1990 ,after they start to appear as bad and cheap materials made car, like the 1990 model seems today 20 years more recent than the 1996 model ,this regarding all models from the same time ,i had mazdas because they were good looking and very good cars to drive and seemed at the time a high-end brand only good materials employed and very reliable ,the rotor engine in the rx-7 was a problem to those who never did maintenance, it´s an important thing to do with a wankel engine ,1.3L more than 200 h.p. (the twin-turbo model)
@theoneap2828
@theoneap2828 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, great looking car for its time
@rorymacve
@rorymacve 3 жыл бұрын
I always had a soft spot for the second generation Probe, mostly because it didn't look anything like a Ford. When I was a kid in the 90s I always thought it was some kind of exotic. :)
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 жыл бұрын
It was a Mazda.
@user-nu5ib2ri9o
@user-nu5ib2ri9o 3 жыл бұрын
@@scootergeorge9576 Essentially it was a Japanese design, assembled in the US to be sold in Europe -- a strange combination that worked surprisingly well.
@david1731048
@david1731048 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I was 10 in 1995 and I soooooo wanted one of these. Be nice to tick it off the bucket list, but now it's almost impossible to find one even if i wanted to!
@edword7195
@edword7195 3 жыл бұрын
Me also its looked like a proper sports car like Nissan 300, Toyota or even towards a 944 unlike say the Calibra , the probe looked good to me, but they did lack street cred compared to some more bland cars
@ScottSellsSoCal
@ScottSellsSoCal 3 жыл бұрын
I would go and test drive all the v6 5 speeds I could find at different dealers. It revved really easy and drove great. It was expensive though. Damn, I was like 19 years old....
@gordythecreator
@gordythecreator 3 жыл бұрын
Love those last line of Probes. The woman exec did an AWESOME job designing. Ahead of its time design wise
@jettagliturbo
@jettagliturbo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Absolutely, super ahead of it's time Gordy.
@muria64
@muria64 3 жыл бұрын
Your style is both entertaining and super informative, putting everything into historical context. Well done! Subscribed! Please do the sn95 mustang. It would be a great counterpart to the probe.
@80s_Boombox_Collector
@80s_Boombox_Collector 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, it had better stance than the SN95 Mustang, which was very awkward looking IMO
@gordythecreator
@gordythecreator 3 жыл бұрын
They're so hard to find! Hopefully all of them didn't get crushed rip
@Icebergslim333
@Icebergslim333 3 жыл бұрын
@@80s_Boombox_Collector Better stance than the SN95??? Bro you done lost your mind.
@taylorc2542
@taylorc2542 3 жыл бұрын
The 2nd gen Probe GT is one of the best looking Fords ever.
@mael-strom9707
@mael-strom9707 3 жыл бұрын
A north-south layout V6 rear-wheel-drive could have been a replacement for Europe's Ford Capri more so than North America's Mustang. A marketing opportunity surely missed.
@louyork553
@louyork553 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Especially in black. ❤️
@stylepoint1200
@stylepoint1200 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@monkeywkeys3916
@monkeywkeys3916 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I came to notice they were a slick affordable machine. Underrated
@david_dor
@david_dor 3 жыл бұрын
Now if only Ford would revive the Probe nameplate. Have it with radical styling again and all electric.
@rachelkohl9106
@rachelkohl9106 3 жыл бұрын
I've replied to a few comments on here, but for those who loved this car, I did too! My dad got a '91 when it was two years old. It was even the car to take me home after I was born. It was my first car to learn how to drive in (it's also a manual). When it was time for me to get a different car because the Probe was running into issues from old age, I asked to keep it and restore it. So we did. We rebuilt the engine and finished that a couple of years ago. It's since had a fresh coat of paint, the interior is in the process of being cleaned and restored, and it's got a new stereo and speakers! It's gone to a couple of car shows now. That car won't be in a scrapyard if I can help it!
@chrisrobichaud9529
@chrisrobichaud9529 3 жыл бұрын
The Ford Probe has always had a special look! Looks like a car that always looks young !!!
@stevefox3763
@stevefox3763 2 жыл бұрын
Never had one and probably never will, i did like the look of the facelift probe though. Been a ford driver all my life but time is running out for the brand with me, i drive a Mk3 V6 Mondeo and not something newer because its the last ford with a V6 here in the UK, when this car finally reaches the end i will be forced to another brand who do still have V6 engines.
@glasshalffull2930
@glasshalffull2930 Жыл бұрын
We still have my wife’s ‘94 Probe and it looks sporty. Got a new coat of paint this year and though things go wrong with it, I enjoy tinkering on it.
@altarikeverett1885
@altarikeverett1885 4 ай бұрын
I had a probe love that car and the funny thing to that is I turn around and my next car was a Mazda 626 Good times.
@sandonlettieri7218
@sandonlettieri7218 3 жыл бұрын
I still own a 93 GT, after 22 years. I feel like it is such an underrated car, probably due to the shoes it was intended to fill. I am also biased.
@Jamesbond22855
@Jamesbond22855 3 жыл бұрын
I have 2, I'm a bit biased as well. 1993 GT, rusted to fuck, and a 1994 wild orchid waiting to have my turbo/chassis parts swapped over. I love these cars
@sarabarnes5660
@sarabarnes5660 3 жыл бұрын
Still have my '93 Probe GT 5 speed I purchased new. Still a great car, quick and economical. Never had any serious problems with it over all these years.
@mitcl8915
@mitcl8915 3 жыл бұрын
@Derek Gardin my 94 GT 5 speed has been garage kept all these years and not a spot of rust. The big problem with these was my RIO Red paint faded after a couple years. Other than that an awesome car
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
I still have mine also since new 1994 GT. Doing some neglected repairs now.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
@@mitcl8915 Same here. Garage kept my 1994 GT since brand new, no rust. Good to see others are out there.
@brucemartin974
@brucemartin974 3 жыл бұрын
Still have my '93 Probe GT 5 speed I purchased new. Still a great car, quick and economical. Never had any serious problems with it over all these years.
@rachelkohl9106
@rachelkohl9106 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my dad's '91! Just finished restoring the engine and giving it a refreshed paint job :-)
@prevost8686
@prevost8686 3 жыл бұрын
That’s because the only thing about it that was Ford was the badge on it. The rest was Mazda.
@bigperm913
@bigperm913 3 жыл бұрын
Valve cover gaskets were the only thing I had to replace, great handling car
@jamesb8305
@jamesb8305 3 жыл бұрын
Thats because Ford didn't make it. The Japanese did.
@mitcl8915
@mitcl8915 3 жыл бұрын
Still have my 94 GT 5 speed! Agree still an awesome car
@brianp6965
@brianp6965 3 жыл бұрын
The best thing about owning a '96 SE was when I needed a dealer part, I could cross-shop the Mazda and Ford dealers. Sometimes the Ford part was cheaper, sometimes the Mazda part was... but they always fit, wherever I got them.
@torstenscholz6243
@torstenscholz6243 2 жыл бұрын
Great work as always. I always liked the Probe and never understood why it got that much hate, it's certainly an underrated classic that's a lot better than people make it out to be. Granted, the first generation looked a bit dull, but the second generation's design was pretty great and well ahead of its time and still holds up well today.
@coriolass
@coriolass 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still somewhat convinced that the "new Coke" was a marketing ploy by Coca-Cola to replace cane sugar with corn syrup in it's recipe with minimal backlash.
@donsolaris8477
@donsolaris8477 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. for sure...In North America it has corn syrup, but in Europe they still use cane sugar I think...
@jonnycando
@jonnycando 3 жыл бұрын
@@donsolaris8477 in Mexico too.....
@gedaman
@gedaman 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonnycando Mexican coke is so much better. Maybe the glass bottle has something to do with it too.
@jonnycando
@jonnycando 3 жыл бұрын
@@gedaman the bottle and real cane sugar!
@PaulEdgewatertheman
@PaulEdgewatertheman 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Never thought of that. I gotta believe you're right!
@tina2cool4u
@tina2cool4u 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Blue 95 Probe Gt with a manual transmission, it still looks great and drives like a dream.
@Lavoss05
@Lavoss05 Жыл бұрын
This was the car I wanted but they where all sold out everywhere in late 95 so ended up ordering a black 96 GT ......still have the car today but would never buy a black car again, even today sports cars come in that Blue color as the 95 probe or close to it and I always wished I was able to get that 95 blue.....in 96 Ford went to Blueberry Blue which looked blue but as the sun shined on it a purple hue could be seen in the color so I ended up ordering Black.
@johnmark6628
@johnmark6628 3 жыл бұрын
Every KZfaq Car Channel: "The Ford Probe was a failure." Every viewer: "I love the Probe." (the probe will be back)
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
- So true. Ford Probe will be back someday.
@here_for_the
@here_for_the 3 жыл бұрын
Having owned a '90 Gen1 new ...& built a 1996 Gen2 RWD racecar. I can say ur absolutely right. MANY dubbed it a failure who didn't love it. Those who did want 1 again. A proper & fitting name woulda helpa a bit.
@n40798
@n40798 3 жыл бұрын
12:05 The design of the second generation still holds up today
@vladpiranha
@vladpiranha 3 жыл бұрын
It's heartening to see so many comments expressing what I'd always feared was an unpopular opinion.
@pb6198
@pb6198 3 жыл бұрын
It looks terrible, especially compared to Japanese cars of exactly the same time
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 3 жыл бұрын
@ Paul Bartley No. Clearly you’ve never seen the 4th gen Prelude. Or the 6th gen Celica. Ugly ugly ugly.
@FirstNameLastName-kf1qc
@FirstNameLastName-kf1qc 3 жыл бұрын
@@calvinnickel9995 mr2 and rx 7 fd look a lot better
@kawaiishibe5304
@kawaiishibe5304 3 жыл бұрын
@Jay'sWorld! saw the 7th gen celica just now, with a black paint and 2000 import inspired bodykit
@TheDonSapius
@TheDonSapius 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love the Probe, I've always wanted one and WILL get one someday. I know someone who him and his dad have a hobby of finding, restoring and selling nothing but Ford Probes.
@user-nu5ib2ri9o
@user-nu5ib2ri9o 3 жыл бұрын
Try to get one with a solid body. The drivetrain was used in many contemporary Mazdas and can be procured and swapped without a hassle. KL-ZE (200hp) conversion is one of the most popular mods. KJ-ZEM (220hp) is even cooler, but the engine is very hard to find.
@Grulaz
@Grulaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-nu5ib2ri9o it makes me wonder...does it share any parts with rx7?
@user-nu5ib2ri9o
@user-nu5ib2ri9o 3 жыл бұрын
The quick answer is “no”, it has more in common with 626, mx6, mx3 and the likes.
@jettagliturbo
@jettagliturbo 3 жыл бұрын
That is awesome! Really? Where are they located, sounds like me.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 3 жыл бұрын
There's one near me for $2,000 www.autotrader.ca/a/ford/probe/north%20york/ontario/19_11485994_?showcpo=ShowCpo&ncse=no&orup=3_3_3&pc=L6T%203X9&sprx=100 YOu can probably get that down to $1200 - I just bought a Hyundai Pony for $1500 down from $2500 in quite good (running) condition. Do it now before they become too rare.
@bx19tgd
@bx19tgd 3 жыл бұрын
I saw one of these at a scrapyard a few days ago, with one light up and one down. It was quite sad to see :(
@keithmcclellan4350
@keithmcclellan4350 3 жыл бұрын
Always thought that was standard equipment.
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 3 жыл бұрын
It was winking at you.
@miker3174
@miker3174 3 жыл бұрын
What junkyard? People need parts!
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
I remember, that it's drag coefficient was impressive. A colleague had one. He didn't have any trouble with it.
@twincities867
@twincities867 3 жыл бұрын
Your colleague had a drag coefficient? Or a Probe? (What was your colleague's drag coefficient?)
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
@@twincities867 My colleague was a "he", rather than an "it" signifying the Probe. Although, he and the Probe both had drag coefficients, he Probe's was slick, can't remember the exact number, but my colleague was rather large & human shaped, so in his upright configuration, his drag coefficient was like that of a wall.
@johnkleinsmit7179
@johnkleinsmit7179 3 жыл бұрын
@@twincities867 basic troll. you feel better about some internet grammer checking.
@tedecker3792
@tedecker3792 3 жыл бұрын
It’s drag (queen) coefficient was quite impressive.
@wallisparnell4464
@wallisparnell4464 3 жыл бұрын
At 80 mph, the computer showed incredible mileage on cruise.
@stevenjoy3537
@stevenjoy3537 3 жыл бұрын
I must be the only one alive whose initial thought to the probe name, was a space probe like Voyager, not medical.
@TheDonSapius
@TheDonSapius 3 жыл бұрын
No, me too actually.
@shaunw9270
@shaunw9270 3 жыл бұрын
Yes me too , the space connection 👍
@mauritsvw
@mauritsvw 3 жыл бұрын
@@shaunw9270 And me.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought it was abstract - probing the future, probing the limits, etc.
@jaxandmore440
@jaxandmore440 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I guess they were associating the futuristic design with space exploration. I sort of get it, though abstract.
@thetruthwillout9094
@thetruthwillout9094 3 жыл бұрын
The 24v Probe was my first car after I passed my test, luckily my dad gave it to me. Still one of the best drivable cars I have ever driven. I loved that car.
@TheTarrMan
@TheTarrMan 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a 2nd gen Probe. I miss that old thing. Great fun to drive.
@chaff5
@chaff5 3 жыл бұрын
The 2nd gen Probe was like a budget minded RX7. It still looks good today if you can find one in decent shape.
@chaff5
@chaff5 3 жыл бұрын
@Mable's Fatal Fable The 93 Probe GT won car of the year.
@wallisparnell4464
@wallisparnell4464 3 жыл бұрын
Betting anyone that has a low mileage one, has an eventual collectible. They were all beautiful, efficient cars.
@dreaminginvalhalla1914
@dreaminginvalhalla1914 2 жыл бұрын
It isnt even thaaaat expensive,
@ryanpatterson9526
@ryanpatterson9526 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked the 2nd gen Probe GT. I was just too young and broke when they were new.
@lervin78
@lervin78 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the second generation Probe GT had a great sounding smooth V6 engine.
@pb6198
@pb6198 3 жыл бұрын
If you think the probe is a smooth engined,FF V6. Check out the mitsubishi fto. A far better performance, handling and looking car. And with the 25 year import rule. You could get it in the US now
@elkofcanada5003
@elkofcanada5003 3 жыл бұрын
@@pb6198 Ah yes, for 3x the price of a domestic craigslist probe
@pb6198
@pb6198 3 жыл бұрын
@@elkofcanada5003 they are a crazy price in the us though. I paid £600 for a good example
@pb6198
@pb6198 3 жыл бұрын
@@elkofcanada5003 and frankly. It is 3 times the car. So that does figure
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 2 жыл бұрын
@@pb6198 the FTO made the same power at the same weight but with less torque. The later high output version only just edged out the Probe in acceleration, while the Probe never got the high output version of the Mazda V6 the mx5 with that motor was faster still.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 3 жыл бұрын
My wife & I got one of these new in 96, v6 24 valve 2.5 ltr in alpine green, it was a fantastic car.
@TheDonSapius
@TheDonSapius 3 жыл бұрын
How long did y'all have it for?
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDonSapius we had it 30 months . I can’t stress how good a car it was.
@TodorKatsarski
@TodorKatsarski 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful color!
@jaxandmore440
@jaxandmore440 3 жыл бұрын
The Mazda 2.5L was infamous for blowing through oxygen sensors and the automatic transmission was failure prone. It was the same powertrain used in the Ford Contour. I'm guessing your 30mos was a lease. That was definitely the way to go.
@scotiajinker8392
@scotiajinker8392 3 жыл бұрын
@@jaxandmore440 my car was a 5 speed manual, you assume wrong , we bought the car outright.
@vwgti1985
@vwgti1985 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that the Electric Mustang is another New Coke story waiting to happen
@ResidentRob
@ResidentRob 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of loved the Ford Probe because it was so unloved.
@Auto_Funk
@Auto_Funk 3 жыл бұрын
In hindsight the Probe was a great piece of design... It's actually aged better than alot of it's competitors in period I reckon. Great vid from Big Car as usual!
@torstenscholz6243
@torstenscholz6243 2 жыл бұрын
The Probe is one of those cars that was hated at first but truly has stood the test of time and proved to be far better than people made it to be. The design of both generations was innovative and ahead of its time, still holds up pretty well and still looks rather dynamic and elegant, and it had great driving dynamics, too.
@aurorajones8481
@aurorajones8481 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always loved the Probe GT. Thanks for illuminating the story behind it.
@paddycoleman1472
@paddycoleman1472 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Probe as a rental car when I visited California on business in the early Nineties. Loved it - a great car at the time.
@runforitscooby
@runforitscooby 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when I saw that 2nd gen Probe here in Australia and thought it was a gorgeous looking car and wanted one. I actually sat in one at the Melbourne Motor Show and loved it, but like everywhere the name Probe was the butt of jokes lol.
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Atlanta late 1960's/early 1970's expressway footage!
@catjudo1
@catjudo1 3 жыл бұрын
That would explain the Fly Delta neon sign! My grandfather flew for Delta from 1953 until 1980 and was based out of Atlanta until 1968. My folks both grew up there and I grew up in Norcross, just outside the 285 perimeter.
@robertjonas6216
@robertjonas6216 3 жыл бұрын
I thought I recognized that state capital building!
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
This is the city I bought and still drive my Probe GT in. Too funny. He must have used Atlanta as a Coke connection. If not, then very ironic.......
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
@@ford_probe_garage_studio I suppose, since he made the Coca-Cola/New Coke analogy, and Atlanta is the HQ for Coca-Cola, is why he used that footage.
@tollytimepropulsion5252
@tollytimepropulsion5252 3 жыл бұрын
According to Dearborn lore, the 626 Coupe and Probe hatchback were styled jointly by Mazda and Ford. Executives decided to sponsor an internal styling competition that would inspire creativity. One team was to design a car that looked very much like a slightly updated version of the current Mustang and the other car was to be a very futuristic wedge that would fit Fords new aerodynamic theme. When the final designs were revealed, Ford was expected to pick the traditional Coupe that had a very athletic look. Ford executives were more impressed with the hatchback, and decided that the radical looks would attract a new demographic to the Ford family. Mazda decided to keep the other design that resembled their family sedan that was also being developed on the same chassis. I cannot verify any of this story personally, but you have to remember Ford was making big changes. The 1989 626 2 door could easily be made to look like a traditional Fox Body coupe with minimal changes. The Probe had no hint of any Ford styling at all!! The Ford Probe could have easily been labeled a Mazda. As I said, it's just a story......
@bioodfox7805
@bioodfox7805 Жыл бұрын
Mazda actually did have their own Probe. It was the MX-6. Shared most of the guts from the Probe's second generation, without popups. The 626 would not have worked because Ford had the Contour. A sporty 626 would not have fit alongside it.
@josephtaylor3857
@josephtaylor3857 3 жыл бұрын
My first car was a '94 Probe GT. Loved it. Smooth V6. Japanese engine surrounded by North American styling, the best of both worlds.An excellent video. Thanks for not mentioning the automatic front seatbelts of the 1st gen Probe....these are best forgotten.
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 2 жыл бұрын
Other than the wraparound glass being a common Ford element at the time I always thought the Probes looked right at home between the Miata and RX7, the only car of Fords that I think the Probe resembles from the front is the FWD Capri out of Australia.
@michaeldickens7493
@michaeldickens7493 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my 1990 probe GT I wish I could find another one
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@rebeccafishlock226
@rebeccafishlock226 3 жыл бұрын
Love to see my car represented here!
@TheDonSapius
@TheDonSapius 3 жыл бұрын
Oh! You have a Probe? What year?
@rebeccafishlock226
@rebeccafishlock226 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDonSapius 1995! Australian spec, so fully optioned with euro suspension and v6.
@user-nu5ib2ri9o
@user-nu5ib2ri9o 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccafishlock226 Respect!
@ikuzoburandeon
@ikuzoburandeon 3 жыл бұрын
@@rebeccafishlock226 1993 V6 Riored V6, Euro with Blackline us spec lights, D2 coilovers and18" RX8 wheels. Shaved trunklid.
@rebeccafishlock226
@rebeccafishlock226 3 жыл бұрын
@@ikuzoburandeon beautiful. I bought spares the other day from a man who had a '93 track car with a supercharged kl-ze, Ac delete, coilovers all round, uprated brakes, the works. All in that beautiful dark blue. Mines a bit of a dog on the outside, someone trashed the paint before I bought it, but I'm slowly getting the engine and suspension to where I want it, got some dgr coilovers on the mail and an lsd waiting to go in.
@nagisayoshikawa
@nagisayoshikawa 3 жыл бұрын
The second gen in purple looks amazing
@Jamesbond22855
@Jamesbond22855 3 жыл бұрын
Boysenberry or Wild Orchid?
@chrisrobichaud9529
@chrisrobichaud9529 3 жыл бұрын
A car that simply does not want to age !!!!
@keithbird8910
@keithbird8910 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Probe for about 6 years. (UK version 24v) Apart from the usual immobiliser porblem (fixed by by-passing it) it was a great car. I wish I'd kept it now.
@HemiChrysler
@HemiChrysler 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 1995 Ford Probe GT, 2.5 V6, automatic transmission.
@TheDonSapius
@TheDonSapius 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'm jealous. How long have you had it for?
@HemiChrysler
@HemiChrysler 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDonSapius I bought it as a junk car 5 years ago. It has a bad transmission, but I have another unit to replace it when time permits.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 3 жыл бұрын
@@HemiChrysler Hopefully you're replacing it with a manual - a day's job really.
@HemiChrysler
@HemiChrysler 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_kombinator it didn't occur to me to change to a manual, but that would be cool; I would need the manual transmission, gearstick, gear change linkage, clutch pedal, and master & slave cylinders (if the clutch is hydraulic), or clutch cable. That is not a day's job, unless you're counting hours spread over a longer time frame.
@the_kombinator
@the_kombinator 3 жыл бұрын
@@HemiChrysler It is a day's job, I've done it on a Hyundai Pony, Accent (with a Beta swap), even an old Excel - weekend job if you're new but relatively skilled at this type of thing. My first swap took just under 12 hrs when I was 18 - dropped my gf off at her friend's house at 9 am in an auto, picked her up at 8:30ish in a manual. Sure it needed some buttoning up on the inside, but it was basically just me, a Chilton's manual, and some know how. Took me 4 hrs to remove the auto trans though, earlier this week I was able to do the same removal in 1 hr on the same make of car ;) It can definitely be done in a weekend, if not a day.
@KP-viking88
@KP-viking88 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 2.0 Probe in red, I loved it. I wanted the 2.5 V6 but found the 2.0 at such a good price and it was mint. It was a decent drive but did lack a bit of power
@luiscarneiro736
@luiscarneiro736 3 жыл бұрын
A beautiful video and a masterclass in marketing! Great, as always. Thank you!!
@jagers4xford471
@jagers4xford471 3 жыл бұрын
I've had two Probes, a 97 GTS and now a 97 GT. I love this car. It looks great, it's fast and handles awesome.
@campingramen1841
@campingramen1841 3 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a story on the Ford Pinto or the Pontiac Fiero, but a good video nonetheless
@MikeMikeSmith
@MikeMikeSmith 3 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for the Probe, we wouldn’t have the Mustang today.
@twotone3471
@twotone3471 3 жыл бұрын
Yay, we get a Electric SUV that's further from the Mustang's identity than the Probe was.
@Kessler1996
@Kessler1996 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always SO informative and engaging! The depth of research and archived advertising footage you cram into each episode is so impressive - you are such a valuable automotive KZfaqr! (I also chuckled at your intensely polite blooper reel at the end, so wonderfully English)
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to do some swearing in the bloopers in the future!
@costipredoiu
@costipredoiu 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!Another educative and cool video!Thanks Big Car!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure Costi!
@evanmoonunit
@evanmoonunit 3 жыл бұрын
I had 2 v6 probes and I loved them dearly
@Jamesbond22855
@Jamesbond22855 3 жыл бұрын
I still have 2 V6 Probes, lol
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesbond22855 2 here as well, and a third that was totaled in 01.
@Jamesbond22855
@Jamesbond22855 3 жыл бұрын
@@pgtmr2713 I bought an Orchid a few months ago to swap all my parts into
@pgtmr2713
@pgtmr2713 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesbond22855 I can't remember if you are following my paintjob or not. That's the most recent stuff I've been doing right lately. I'm working on the broken driver's side ground effect. I think I have 2 or 3 subscribers with a similar thumbnail Got to get some close ups of yours for a thumbnail :-P
@outdoorfuninthesun2393
@outdoorfuninthesun2393 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jamesbond22855 2 here Both the same. GT's, green, 5 speeds.
@PGT96drvr
@PGT96drvr 3 жыл бұрын
Owned 2 1996 Ford Probe GTs over the course of 10 years. No car fit me better and it was a blast to drive. Loved them so much that my handle over the last 20 years has been PGT96drvr.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
- They are great underrated cars. Very cool.
@Speed.Racer.5
@Speed.Racer.5 3 жыл бұрын
I also owned 2. A 1993 Probe and a 1997 Probe GT. Loved those cars. They were beautiful and so fun to drive. Not great once I had to put a child seat in back, but I traded it for a 2003 Mazda 6. That car was the perfect 4-door replacement for Probe.
@johnbailey3351
@johnbailey3351 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a 1993 Ford Probe GT and put over 10,000 miles on in while driving 100 mph+ on the German Autobahn . Good looking car, performance so-so, and an absolutely possessed electrical system. In 8-9 years put 6 batteries in it, replaced 4-5 head or tail lights, one set of spark plug wires, and one alternator.
@gerrycheshill7452
@gerrycheshill7452 3 жыл бұрын
Didn t see this one coming. 😁.Nice video and very instructive.
@user-rRSCN
@user-rRSCN 3 жыл бұрын
Had the probe been RWD or AWD would've been a classic staple.
@dminalba
@dminalba 3 жыл бұрын
I can't think of a Ford Probe without thinking of the Steve Coogan character the loathsome Gareth Cheeseman
@scootergeorge9576
@scootergeorge9576 3 жыл бұрын
"Want to see my probe?" anonymous flasher
@jimd385
@jimd385 3 жыл бұрын
......”you’re a Tiger”
@stnkpalm
@stnkpalm 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this historical look at the Probe. I owned a 1988 Probe GT. I loved that car despite the turbo lag and torque steer. Manual transmission, adaptive suspension, wrap-around cockpit style dash, trip "computer", in dash CD player. All stuff we take for granted today we're amazing in 1989. I loved how the instrument cluster was mounted to the steering column and would adjust up and down with the tilt steering wheel. Always a clear view of the gauges no matter how you tilt the wheel. Sporty car with a hatchback design. I miss those days. If needed you could fit a ton of cargo in that hatchback trunk.
@richardmclaughlin5298
@richardmclaughlin5298 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent job as usual. Love your "outakes" at the end!
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Richard!
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 3 жыл бұрын
"MAZDA: Set's the standard" *Shows a sedan with the most body roll I think I ever seen, understeering through a corner at 80mph*
@dcarbs2979
@dcarbs2979 3 жыл бұрын
You've not seen a Lincoln Continental roll!
@xenyx3170
@xenyx3170 3 жыл бұрын
Such WAS the standard for the late 80s and 90s 😂
@coastaku1954
@coastaku1954 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcarbs2979 Oh I have, but you'd expect that of a land boat, not a small sedan!
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 3 жыл бұрын
Mazda did set the standard for automotive design for a while. Not so much in the quality department though
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 3 жыл бұрын
@@dcarbs2979 Yeah... but that's with a body in the trunk.😀
@KJohansson
@KJohansson 3 жыл бұрын
Still remember when they introduced it in Europe and it was sort of a "meh" when they didnt market it as a Capri.
@420031
@420031 3 жыл бұрын
They may have gained sales in North America by naming it the Capri here too.
@torstenscholz6243
@torstenscholz6243 2 жыл бұрын
@@420031 The Capri was sold in the US as the Mercury Capri.
@420031
@420031 2 жыл бұрын
@@torstenscholz6243 yes, they did, but had they called the Probe the Capri, it may have been more appealing.
@RachaelSA
@RachaelSA 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It always makes my day watching these. :)
@duckhive
@duckhive 3 жыл бұрын
1984/85 was a crazy year... for everything.
@lgz2006
@lgz2006 3 жыл бұрын
Only if the Probe wasn't once given a name as a successor to the 3rd generation Mustang, it might be a hit for Ford
@grumpy9250
@grumpy9250 3 жыл бұрын
I was a Ford mechanic at the time, I enjoyed driving it and don't remember many problems.
@sahhull
@sahhull 3 жыл бұрын
immobilizer is the route of most Probe issues from new
@domahern1046
@domahern1046 3 жыл бұрын
@@sahhull I resoldered a few dry joints on the immobiliser board around the relays and no more engine cutouts. The car cut out approaching a level crossing once!!
@paulday6875
@paulday6875 3 жыл бұрын
First generation when all you had was the super star II with the mecs adapter gave me many headaches with driveability and mil lights. Especially the turbo.
@Jamesbond22855
@Jamesbond22855 3 жыл бұрын
Cracked transmission cases are the biggest issue, an inexpensive brace keeps that from happening. I've been through 5 transmissions in the 6 years I've owned/modified mine
@lunarmodule6419
@lunarmodule6419 2 жыл бұрын
I was very impressed with the look back in the day! Radically different from the "boxy" 80s K car style. It arrived on the scene like a UFO. My friends and I found it futuristic and cool. Thx
@PRNTestDrive
@PRNTestDrive 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoyed the info and presentation! A friend of mine in High School had a Probe, he had it for a while. I can't remember the last time I saw one on the road.
@totalrobot
@totalrobot 3 жыл бұрын
I remember tripping on acid with my best friend and when we looked at his Probe, it turned into a spaceship.
@patrickbrooks9567
@patrickbrooks9567 3 жыл бұрын
my '93 gt still looks absolutely fantastic and is running strong, albeit with a fair amount of money thrown at it throughout the year. hehe
@nicoleqte
@nicoleqte 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 89 Probe LX with the digital dash and the 4-cylinder with manual transmission. I loved that car! It looked modern, the digital dash was exciting, it was extremely fuel efficient, and it was incredibly reliable. I kept it for 8 years and sold it to a friend. It lives for at least 4 more years when we lost track of it. Ford never made another car that excited me. Haven’t spent any money with them since.
@manofthehour6856
@manofthehour6856 3 жыл бұрын
Big Car is always well-researched, informative, and well-presented on notable vehicles, and I appreciate these comprehensive histories on many of the important cars in our history. I remember some of the story about the Probe when it was first released, but its nice to get a more detailed presentation. The five-door concept actually looks nice even today. It reminds me of a five-door Renault Fuego, another very attractive styling job.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sparky6086
@sparky6086 3 жыл бұрын
They should have called it the "Mustang III"! That would have worked!
@phiksit
@phiksit 3 жыл бұрын
Or maybe Colt... since is was newer and smaller. I guess Dodge wouldn't have liked that though :)
@BennysBenz
@BennysBenz 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when thier were rumors about the 'new' mustang the Ford Probe Mustang fans were losing their minds.
@mael-strom9707
@mael-strom9707 3 жыл бұрын
Should have been marketed as Europe's new Ford Capri... Longitudinal V6 manual with rear-wheel drive.
@stevenjames1138
@stevenjames1138 3 жыл бұрын
Although I never owned one, I always wanted the second generation Probe GT. I still think it's a beautiful design. I wish it still existed, but... I'm really glad that Ford kept it separate and not a replacement for the Mustang.
@MarcoAntonio-ve7je
@MarcoAntonio-ve7je 3 жыл бұрын
Another excelent work, congratulations to you.
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Marco!
@Justin-Hill-1987
@Justin-Hill-1987 3 жыл бұрын
The Probe was basically a Mazda in a Ford's clothing.
@80s_Boombox_Collector
@80s_Boombox_Collector 3 жыл бұрын
With a 24-valve V6 with a forged crank and a 2-piece aluminum block, designed for Mazda's aborted luxury line that would have competed with Acura/Infiniti
@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138
@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138 3 жыл бұрын
So like the ranger?
@80s_Boombox_Collector
@80s_Boombox_Collector 3 жыл бұрын
@@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138 I thought the Ranger only used a Mazda manual transmission
@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138
@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138 3 жыл бұрын
@@80s_Boombox_Collector b200. Right down to the sheet metal
@80s_Boombox_Collector
@80s_Boombox_Collector 3 жыл бұрын
@@nondescriptstraightwhitema6138 In what years? During the 90s Ford was the one who built the B2000. The only Mazda thing about it was the manual transmission.
@landoonterinvesting1153
@landoonterinvesting1153 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you want the probe gt was years ahead of its time & one hell of a drivers car.
@itzatravist2755
@itzatravist2755 3 жыл бұрын
Loved my folks 94 probe gt...that car was a blast..
@jcrbama
@jcrbama 3 жыл бұрын
My dad bought a Rio Red '93 Probe GT and drove the hell out of it. I inherited it around 1996 or 1997 and ran it until around 2003. It was a great car and I had some really good times ripping around in that thing. That 2.5 V6 had a great engine note and it always looked good. They were a little faster than their numbers would say too, lots of races against Eclipse's and Mustangs back in the day went the Probes way, and the old Sentra SE-R, didn't stand a chance. It did have a tendency for some serious brake fade if you pushed too hard; that was a little scary. Overall a seriously under-rated car that was a blast to drive.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
So true. Great comment 👍
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 3 жыл бұрын
Design-wise, this 2nd generation is massively underrated, and IMO a solid specimen is a nice investment opportunity
@perfectsplit5515
@perfectsplit5515 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Probe was first released. It was all the rage in the car magazines - "the marriage of Ford and Mazda". I liked the fact that Ford finally had a sleek looking affordable sports car to rival the Nissan 300ZX, Toyota Supra, and Mazda RX-7. The GT40 was more of an exotic car, to rival Porsches, and it was way too expensive. And I never really thought of the Mustang as a sleek sports car at that time.
@gummywurms226
@gummywurms226 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I had thought about that when I bought mine. In 2012 I got an amazing one that had only 54k miles. I needed a car as a daily. I chose the Probe GT since I had an MX6 4cyl auto at one point. I got the Probe because it was a stick shift. Sadly I got into an accident during rush hour traffic, I got it fixed but, it now has a red hood 😐. Being used as a daily driver for 7 years in Colorado it definitely has seen better days. I plan on restoring it when I get a new daily. 😁 I absolutely love that car.
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz 3 жыл бұрын
The Probe was really underrated, according to my Sisters Boyfriend and his dad who own one as a project car. The car had a turbo and an engine, but the boyfriend wrecked the engine whilst going to prom with his then time gf.
@charlesjames1442
@charlesjames1442 3 жыл бұрын
Loan your car and expect it to come back pranged.
@matthewreise120
@matthewreise120 3 жыл бұрын
a turbo AND and engine, WOW! LOL!! I know what you mean, but funny how you said it :)
@Squirrelanditsnutz
@Squirrelanditsnutz 3 жыл бұрын
@@matthewreise120 If you look at the Probe now, as it currently (as of 26/10/2020) is, you will not find an engine in the vehicle, its just a giant hole.
@matthewreise120
@matthewreise120 3 жыл бұрын
@@Squirrelanditsnutz LOL, but it still has the turbo though?!?!
@Cloakdasasin0
@Cloakdasasin0 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1995 V6 MX-6 as my first manual. Loved that car.
@digitaljosh1
@digitaljosh1 3 жыл бұрын
My first car!!! 93 probe GT V6 loved it!
@murdamuzik4128
@murdamuzik4128 3 жыл бұрын
I still love the probe I had everyone now I'm put one of the last probe that was made together still love them
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
- The Ford Probe is the best underrated car and future collectable. Not many are left.
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well presented thanks
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Allan!
@visaziniskaktusas442
@visaziniskaktusas442 3 жыл бұрын
please make fiat coupe story :)
@user-nu5ib2ri9o
@user-nu5ib2ri9o 3 жыл бұрын
+1
@bjoernaltmann
@bjoernaltmann 3 жыл бұрын
This shows how advanced the Citroën DS was
@tonypuertollano9375
@tonypuertollano9375 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing with fords in 90s was most were rot boxs compared to peugeot Citroen
@calvinnickel9995
@calvinnickel9995 3 жыл бұрын
The DS still had tailfins.. lol. No.. the DS was, and always will be, weird.
@Beth9228
@Beth9228 Жыл бұрын
I remembered seeing a 1988 Ford Probe in black with grey interior at this one car dealership that my father had gotten a 1988 Ford Taurus. I fell in loved with a 1988 Ford Mustang 5.0 red convertible with white leather interior,too. That car was pretty sweet. It had automatic transmission even a cassette player to the radio in the Mustang. I was 17 years old at that time and even getting closer to graduating high school at that time. I didn’t get my 1st car till mid October of 1999 which was a 1998 Ford Contour SE. That car had everything that I want in a car at that time. I got it before my driver’s license that same year. I had different vehicles from Ford over the years.
@Veritas419
@Veritas419 3 жыл бұрын
I drove by the Flatrock , Michigan plant for years and frequently saw trailer loads of both the Probe and Mercury Cougar going down the road. Now that plant makes the Mustang.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
I took a tour there of late, and didn’t even realize it was the birthplace of my Probe GT, until I stumbled across an old Probe poster at the end. Funny
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 3 жыл бұрын
I worked there for almost 23 years before retiring.
@Kacpa2
@Kacpa2 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked 2nd gen Probe's look. It was infuriating to see one poor red Probe get abused and destroyed by bunch of idiots on yt replacing its oil woth wd-40 and leaving it at full throttle stationary for 10 monutes until it overheated so much that it caught fire....while mocking it for not being a 240sx.....This car didnt deserve and could be a perfect first car for some young car enthusiast instead.
@mse2130
@mse2130 Жыл бұрын
Why would somebody do that? It's not a 240sx no, it's a mazda so it'll last twice as long as a crappy nissan lol
@dkmorris713
@dkmorris713 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! did you ever probe deep into this topic!
@TassieLorenzo
@TassieLorenzo 3 жыл бұрын
Boom-tish!
@riverraisin1
@riverraisin1 3 жыл бұрын
N'yuk, N'yuk
@JTA1961
@JTA1961 3 жыл бұрын
You rectom ??
@jettagliturbo
@jettagliturbo 3 жыл бұрын
The Ford Probe, my love. I own two Probes. I own a 1993 Ford Probe GT and a 1996 Ford Probe GT. They are both fully built, twin turbo V6's. They are the best. Thank you for making this..
@BigCar2
@BigCar2 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Daniel.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
- Keep the Probe alive!!!
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep
@Its_Shaun_the_Sheep Жыл бұрын
I loved my 85 Probe 24v V6 2.5L Duratec.
@robhicks2117
@robhicks2117 3 жыл бұрын
A buddy of my had a Probe GT in highschool in 1987. He let 2 of his cousins use the car while he was working at the grocery store one Friday night. They hit a tree on their way to pick him up from work. His 2 cousins died and 2 girls in the back were badly injured. Troy was driving and didn't have a license or i.d. on him so the cops looked at the registration and saw Wayne's name and address, went to his house less than 4 miles away and told his parents that he died in the car accident. Meanwhile Wayne got tired of waiting at the grocery store, didn't know what had happened and walked home. Then he has to knock on the door because he didn't have his house keys, they were on the key ring with his car keys and his mother thinking her son was dead, opened the door and she sees her son standing there alive and well. Wayne's mom felt like she had lost her son but didn't and Wayne still thinks it's his fault because if he hadn't of let Troy and Kevin talk him into using his car they would be alive today.
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting they didn't make it to 89 ....but ok
@johnjayalves6843
@johnjayalves6843 3 жыл бұрын
I had a '94 with GT wheels and and tilt and slide back moonroof. I carried my entire college dorm items in the back while still stylin!
@elkofcanada5003
@elkofcanada5003 3 жыл бұрын
I still drive mine! 1996 GT in green with the tan leather interior. It's true not many survived but if you can find a running one, they are great fun. 7500 RPM redline and the engine loves it.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
Such a Sweet revving engine.
@garybrockie6327
@garybrockie6327 3 жыл бұрын
I had a 1993 Probe 2L with the sports suspension and 5 speed. I averaged 28 mpg around town. With the sports suspension and the sports tires it cornered great. It was bright Red and looked awesome. I miss that car.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@garybrockie6327
@garybrockie6327 3 жыл бұрын
@@ford_probe_garage_studio said
@VidzVideo
@VidzVideo 3 жыл бұрын
I owned a second gen MX6 v6 manual. Great car. Still prefer the looks the to probe
@putonewhiskey
@putonewhiskey 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't a bad car that second gen, very pretty car and creamy V6
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@James-rn7dx
@James-rn7dx 3 жыл бұрын
Both Probes were really great cars. My family members had two and I had a 94 GT myself. What a great and fun car to drive, to bad more people didn't figure this out.
@gummywurms226
@gummywurms226 3 жыл бұрын
Been driving a 1993 Prob GT since 2012. Love it! My favorite car.
@SnabbKassa
@SnabbKassa 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't this car also killed off in the UK by Steve Coogan?
@paulwilliams2080
@paulwilliams2080 3 жыл бұрын
Comedy destroys everything it touches. It is a form of vandalism uncaring for the economic damage it leaves in wake. It's smearing of C&A was another example. A good company that just said Fuggit and shut down in the UK after constant comedian attacks. Still successful across Europe.
@patrickmartin3322
@patrickmartin3322 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly this would have made a better Mustang than the new Mustang Mach E electric crossover thing
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 3 жыл бұрын
thank god someone actually points it out, respect my man
@johnleehudson
@johnleehudson 3 жыл бұрын
Taurus x : does anybody remember me? Lol
@ThoroughlyBaked
@ThoroughlyBaked 3 жыл бұрын
My first ride from my dad was a 91 Probe SE. A few years later I bought myself a 93 Probe GT 5 speed. I loved that car so much and wish I had never sold it. What's funny is a little ways down the road from my current residence somebody has a red 93 Probe GT that looks just like the one I drove in high school. I keep telling my wife I'm going to go up there and see if I can get them to sell it to me.
@ford_probe_garage_studio
@ford_probe_garage_studio 3 жыл бұрын
You have to at least try to. You never know.
@mattg8369
@mattg8369 11 ай бұрын
The styling of the second generation Probe, esp in GT trim, has really held up well.
@Eray2007
@Eray2007 3 жыл бұрын
Why this looks so jdm
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