+Knight Solaire Bloody magpies.

Knight Solaire

Blood ravens -_-

*Uses the weapon*

Thaddeus was most likely trained by Cyrus back when he was a scout. And Cyrus will ruin the day for anyone who messes with his boys.

cyrus is very protective of everyone he trained so thaddeus is probably one of his rekruits

your* recruits*

Aww! That's Heartwarming!

Thaddeus is the youngest of the bunch so there's a good possibility Cyrus was the one who trained him when he was a scout.

Such is the way of Corruption. The Road to hell is laid with good intentions.

Evil Tarkus spent the whole time talking to the team telling them what the Black Legions were doing, then he shot all of black legions present…..

To be fair Tarkus is under the thrall of the demon in the bolter so he is mostly still sane and himself, however he is not the one in control.

+MetalSlimeHunt Wow... that is actually very well said.

+MetalSlimeHunt If Horus can fall, anyone can.

+M Korda well Horus was kinda sabotaged wasn't he? By some Nurgle sword and then a lodge did the rest. So not entirely his fault.

Kargath Bladefist (WoD) The sword wounded him, and the lodge hand him to the witches. But he made his final decision alone, he spoke a lot about philosophy, what is right or wrong, and their future with his brothers (primarchs and marines), and it was not the sword who hurted his mind, but his past choices, his thoughts and ruminations, and acts he went through who made him. At the end, he hated himself, and he hated Erebus for what he have done, but thought it was the better thing to do, even if it was wrong. He was really convinced that his father was evil (without knowing it himself), and really planned to be a god. He didn't know that the future he preview was the result of his acts. And the lodge only concern was to save their primarch, no matter what (some of them disagree, that was the first schism between them). Horus was deceived, he is a victim, just like the lodge and a lot of traitors, who followed their primarch for loyalty, friend and comradeship, sense of justice.... or others reasons (Magnus -betreyed- and Alpharius/Omegon -forced to join Chaos to save the Imperium-). Still, some of them were just fuckers who betrayed the emperor by greed, selfishness, fear for the future/peace. As Erebus (traitor n¨°1).

+M Korda Trying to sympathize with the enemy is heresy Korda. Report to the nearest Commissar. If you are the nearest Commissar, report to your bolt pistol.

too bad its completely useless against the righteous

That is the thing about daemonic weapons, they are incredibly powerful tools. However the daemon inside is not a willing participant, nor would they ever consider partnership with a mortal. They will do everything in their power to undermine their wielder's mind to the point that it is the daemon who chooses what dies. Even if this takes millennia, creatures of the Warp have the luxury of time as they are effectively eternal.

intboom "He fights you still, Bolter!"

Tarkus himself isnt evil in the traditional 40k sense, but rather in a very small tightrope gray area.

​@@wholesome_masochist4113not even that, he is almost the same, he is a thrall as in he is not in control of his actions.

Agreed the worst thing about betrayal is that it's not from an enemy

Wrong, he adresses the demon in the bolter.

true my friend true, but sometimes it starts with good intentions but these can turn fast into something horrible without you wanting to

@@storyteller8772 ...that's the point...

@@storyteller8772 That's literally what that quote means

>TARKUS POSTING

Isn't the warp is the manifest of the thoughts of the living? I'm sure it has bad and good sides.

mstrblik Clusterfuck? Like sending a 120 million sized imperial guard army against a tyranid invasion?

Force feeding of tyranids.

gtgoskate Yes but it was meant so the Psykers would not be put out to things like fighting with daemons or getting corrupted because of the cruelty of the battlefield. But these Psykers are not naturals. Every choosen man for inniation is a normal man. They might be strong or specially willfull, but still just man. After they get their geneseeds, there is a low chance that they become a psyker. Thats what Blood Ravens were supposed to be about. Like they turned back from the chaos or sth like this, so their geneseeds have a special connection to the warp. Such as they have a pretty big number of psykers. The Emperor itself is not just a great psyker, but it seems that through ten-thousand years he kept the Imperium together. Terra itself stands in the doorway of a warpstorm so big, that if it were to swallow Terra, a new Eye of Terror were to be ripped into the galaxy. It seems that the Emperor keeps Terra from falling into it. Also the Astronomican, which can only be maintained by the Emperor seems to be still working because of the Golden Throne. Though it is known that it worked even when the Emperor was not present, it is possible that it worked because of Malcador the Hero. The Inquisitors can't just kill Space Marines. This is also a kind of grey area. It is known that sometimes the Inquisitors 'dicks' or overthink things and cause exterminations. But they can't with Space Marines. They are all brothers and if it were to happen to only one, then the whole chapter were to turn against the Inquisition. Such were to happen, than a rebellion would commence, which would lead to a war inside the Imperium and between Chapters. Which would make the chaos win. The Inquisitors are all human except the Grey Knights. The Librarians are Space Marines. They are ten-feet tall (3meter) and they can run faster than sprinters in their armors. They also have physic abilities. If an Inquisitor were to attack a Librarian, than he would be killed on sight because of betrayal, probable corruption, and chaos mendling. But! Based on how strong a newly discovered natural psyker is, they sometimes kill on sight. Because of the hive worlds (human), some planet has hundreds of millions soul on it. Humans have a low chance of having psykers but with such numbers its not even rare. Each planet yields an Alpha type of psyker every two or third generation.(50-100y). Which is the rarest type under the Emperor. They are killed on sight, because they can destroy millions if in distress, or open hundreds of warpgates if they feel themself in danger. Sorrowfully they are mostly discovered after a trigger effect is innitiated making the recruiting impossible and the assassination damn hard. In these cases, sometimes even the Space Marines are deployed.

gtgoskate Yeah, thats why I liked Blood Ravens so much. It's like, our Primarch might be with the chaos now, it is possible that most of our brothers are corrupt and fallen, but we still serve the Emperor! And for the side of the Emperor we will always return! Also I love the Lamenters too. Good guys.

So sad

The irony is that as a tactical marine sergeant, he turned to a tool instead of to his squad. The game implies he was corrupted by the Blighted Bolter, which is ridiculously powerful, but there’s no doubt that Tarkus was perfectly effective without that bolter. He failed to see the Space Marine as the ultimate weapon as indicated by the Codex, not the tool the Space Marine wields. His quoting of the Codex is as so deluded it’s almost comical. It’s the Space Marine, not the bolter, that shall never know defeat.

​@@jonalethirenicus8334really this is because Tarkus has his brain clouded by the demon in the bolter, he thinks or is lead to to be more accurate that he is still doing his duty to the imperium, that nothing really changed. Thats why he sounds so unchanged at first glance.

For me it's Jonah, because it's not even his fault in his case. Kyras directly sold his life and soul away by giving that Daemon the access rites for his Psychic Hood, and Jonah was forced to watch as it hijacked his body and betrayed everything he stood for. But even then, he kept fighting and doing what he could to protect his brothers, even if that meant letting himself die and maybe getting dragged into the Warp with his possessor to be tormented for eternity. What a trooper.

"The chainsword is the will of the space marine made manifest." Tarkus, may the Emperor forgive you...

MarcusSpetim The Space Marine shall master all weapons, and all battlefields!

This and Avitus were the best betrayals.

mstrblik Subtlety itself. Should tell you how far he fell...

@@Pallyrulez The Space Marine...shall know no defeat....

Because Tarkus was a good Blood Raven and yet he falls to the Ruinous Powers of Chaos.

@@micaelchinatsumaki4446 Not really. He didn't really pull a falgrim, but rather he was using the power of chaos for a good intention.

@@wholesome_masochist4113 Well it's true that Tarkus intention was good but using the powers of Chaos will always turns you evil. It's only a matter of time of how long can Tarkus resist the other temptations of Chaos.

@@micaelchinatsumaki4446 Holy shit, you responded a helluva lot quicker than I thought. However, since the chaos entity in question is nurgle (given that you fight a great unclean one in the next chapter, pretty sure robin Williams would be gotten a kick out of that if you know what I mean) nurgle generally corruots people in the aftermath of a big thing. He also plays the waiting game. Take mortarion and the death guard as an example of that. He's almost never the in your face type with corruption unless its big or someone important. If it was khorne or perhaps tzeenetch pulling the strings here, I could understand Tarkus turning so fast as to be killed on the spot like that. Why Tarkus wasn't simply turned over to a chaplain or 10 is beyond me here. He clearly still loathed chaos despite being a traitor from the beginning of the dlc. Since the blood ravens have the same flaw of the red thirst and black rage as the angels, either khorne or tzeenetch would pull that string. But nurgle wouldn't. Nor any agent of his.

@@wholesome_masochist4113 Okay I need to tell that Red Thirst and Black Rage are exclusive only to Blood Angels and its Successor Chapters. The Blood Ravens are not related to Blood Angels in fact there are many hints that Blood Ravens came from Thousand Sons. And as for Tarkus it's already too late to give him to the Chaplain because he's already corrupted by that Bolter that he is using to fight his fellow Blood Ravens in fact you can see Tarkus talking to his Bolter when he was defeated.

Funnily enough, his Corruption tree is themed after Nurgle more than anyone else.

I love how u mentioned the 4 dark gods which makes sense selling his own soul and loyalty to the emperor for his chapter and brothers in Blood Ravens

@@jacksimpson8529 Which makes sense; the lore for the Blighted Bolter suggests it was infected by a daemon during the battle of Victory Bay, which just happens to be the place the Guard overloaded and destroyed a Hellstorm cannon containing a gun-infesting Nurgle daemon...

Tarkus and Avitus make me sad.... Avitus in particular, his history is very dark and awfull, I am still asking how he could serve the Emperor all this time ......

I argee brothers. May the Emperor see redemption for thoss two.

I personnaly like Thaddeus's betrayl. He is a young space marine, who still think he is an invisible hero like his religious instructors told him. He is naive, and this was the opportunity the chapter master used to get to him, to control him

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@@noahfuller4128 new gel Boreale: steel rain. As solid as a drop pod. Now demivered with a tiny desk diomedes as bonus

Jonah: That weapon is tainted with the troll,Tarkus! (and yes i just commented to a 7 month comment cause for the sake of doing it)

Spess Marine You deserve a medal.

CptDavian Thule it's not in vain. There are people in the future reading these comments.

Very well.

@@Nozofeir responding 7 months old comment? get on my level

What about Avitus' betrayal?

The problem is that you only find the traitor because Martellus helps you.

The final mission reads as the traitor's final act to leave the squad. The character is gone before the reveal. Martellus not helping for any reason would arguably blow his cover immediately. Further, this isn't the first or last time a spy or traitor will do things to help investigators in the short term while banking on the time such actions provide. I'd also point to the game itself to say few of the scenarios are well written...

I mean that finding the traitor is only POSSIBLE because Martellus helps you. It's one thing that, for example, Martellus tells the others that the codes used to mask the traitor are very similar to those of the chapter honor guard. It's another that he tells them about the logic engine aboard the judgement of carrion that no one else knows about and would prove extremely dangerous to reach.

@@HalfTangible the only thing i can think that would make sense is that he was possed and didnt know of his own actions

He did adress the weapon, the demon within it.

I used to think the same, but now I rank Tarkus betrayal as best, and Jonah second best. Avitus is overrated and the rest is forgettable.

Actually you can took me a while but I found out, if you hit the Window key and go to your desktop it will pause the cinematic. When you jump back into the game with it paused you can position your mouse over the gun and then hit F10 to unpause the game, then click where your mouse should be and you should pick up the gun. I have done this with other cinematics when guns or items have dropped and it seems to work.

Damocles178 kiljadaen Isn't it just the Blighted Bolter after you've "sold" it enough times to make it purple quality...?

Honestly cant remember. Been awhile since I had played Chaos Rising. Most of the time I play Retribution as the Orks so Is can bring all da Daka.

I actually though that every wargear dropped in the mission is already picked, no matter if you click it or not. I once tested this - didnt pick any single wargear, but still got them at the end.

A dropped wargear item is automatically added to the Mission Completed screen regardless of whether or not you're fast enough or capable of clicking on it before the end of the mission.

Except that one part were he said “We gave you a chance”

No, the best one

+emirhan ekşioğlu So Avitus is in this....

+emirhan ekşioğlu 4:55 too

emirhan ekşioğlu turkish still has access to the vox channels

Yeeaahh.... about that...

@@Saidan79 hahahaha

Lmao, what a heresy XDD

That weapon is painted with the Warped artists! It has you under it thrall

Men are only allowed to cry under certain circumstances This one is one of those few circumstances

Maybe he was talking to his squad mates?

+pihip He is still under the notion that Kyras is retreating the blood raven out of the sub sector to preserve them from fighting the black legion, where in reality he wants the whole Aurelian sub sector to be consumed by Ulkair as a tribute.

+Qiu Shuang It makes no sense for a loyal Chapter Master to avoid fighting Chaos Space Marines. One could say a reason could be that the Blood Ravens got their backs broken at Kaurava and so are shorthanded, but even then, that sounds fishy. Also, Kyras enlisted the aid of Ulkair to escape from the Judgment of Carrion - he worships Khorne, not Nurgle, as Retribution shows. Which is also bullshit since a Librarian worshipping Khorne makes no sense.

+pihip how it is Bullshit? Khorne has psykers who using only their mind to attack enemies without charging powers from the warp and khorne and kyras didnt used his warp power only his own mind and khorne accepts everything what is not trought the warp used

+Neroth Khorne has no psykers. The world eaters killed all their librarians after they turned against the Imperium.

+Magic Medic Actually, a few Librarians remained even after the World Eaters turned traitor, but they were shunned and despised because their presence caused pain in other legionnaires due to the Butcher's Nails (also, Librarians either died or went mad with the Nails, and many were lost that way). Angron finished the job when he was turned into a Daemon Prince, he massacred them himself.

Stupid mistake, but to be fair, nobody who ever walked that moral grey area characters like Tarkus or mortarion walk are ever allowed to live long enough to actually show their true colors. Mortarion himself along with the death guard were pretty much tortured by nurgle the entire time they were in the warp, and since it was the death guard, nurgle had to break them down piece by piece. Wasn't easy for either end. Even now mortarion hates what he became, and at one point even helped out gulliman if im not mistaken.