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Biggest Misconceptions About Retro Video Games - Retro Bird

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Retro Bird

Retro Bird

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With a hobby as big as retro gaming is, there's inevitably going to be some misconceptions, misinformation, myths and things that just aren't quite accurate. I go over some of the bigger, overarching things that people get wrong when it comes to retro gaming and playing retro video games.
Biggest Misconceptions About Retro Video Games - Retro Bird
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@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Games that appear in this video: Shinobi III (0:02), Goldeneye 007 (0:14 seconds), Turtles in Time (0:19), Dynamite Cop (0:30), Super C (0:55)
@WonderWilson
@WonderWilson 3 жыл бұрын
completely agree with you 2d games are more creative why would i play real life
@jacobbaranowski
@jacobbaranowski 3 жыл бұрын
Ever since then I have been trying to recollect all games from my childhood. SEGA! I love SEGA. I am a SEGA kid. And always will be.
@mmpsp693
@mmpsp693 3 жыл бұрын
Shinobi 3 is one of the best games of the generation, so underrated.
@FoxFireUnlimited
@FoxFireUnlimited 2 жыл бұрын
I, too, eat frozen tater tots...
@Left-Earth
@Left-Earth 2 жыл бұрын
*Everyone please share Retro Bird's videos.* _The whole world needs to experience the joy of watching this dude talk about video games._ 👍✨
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that's appealing about older video games is the way developers made games with the tools and technology they had available at the time. Is not just nostalgia. Any piece of hardware has it's limitations and developers have to work around those limitations, however those limitations can also open the door for new innovative ideas. Super Mario 64 for example, they couldn't fit as many courses in the cartridge compared to Super Mario World so their idea was to make fewer non-linear courses and give you multiple objectives to complete in them. They made an entirely new game genre by being forced to reinvent the wheel about what a platformer could be based on the limitations of the hardware. It's the same feeling you get when you watch an older film and you see the different approaches to cinematography they had to deal with. It makes you appreciate the work that goes into making these games.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Great point. There's examples of limited resources leading to creativity in every art form.
@retroprojections
@retroprojections 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but have you seen what you can build without the tools that you have available?! I'm working on a front porch, but I don't have a saw or lumber, or masonry, it looks pretty great, so far, in my head.
@halluc1nate
@halluc1nate 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo that's why a NIB SM 64 is worth $~1.5M ... hmmmm
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 3 жыл бұрын
@@halluc1nate LMAO what a terrible investment
@Left-Earth
@Left-Earth 2 жыл бұрын
Well said, ArmaBiologica35. 👍
@allenwheeler5937
@allenwheeler5937 3 жыл бұрын
Man you've become one of my favorite channels! I've been making my way through all your videos. I hope to see tons more!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you're liking them. Thank You! Plenty more to come :)
@WonderWilson
@WonderWilson 3 жыл бұрын
99% of the games i play are games from before i was born in 99 that i didnt know existed till at least teenage years
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@chrishasflo8170
@chrishasflo8170 3 жыл бұрын
I found a ps1 in the thrift with memory card and controllers today 😃
@ScrubsWasTaken
@ScrubsWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@codydfwn
@codydfwn 3 жыл бұрын
@@ScrubsWasTaken Fuck yea, nice!
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 3 жыл бұрын
Good for you! Do you know which revision it is?
@charliehustle2591
@charliehustle2591 3 жыл бұрын
I scored a PS One with LCD screen and 6 games not too long ago. Then a week later got a MINT PS2. Good times. Congrats on the score!
@BarnyardCasanova
@BarnyardCasanova 3 жыл бұрын
@@charliehustle2591 That's a fantastic score!
@sebytheman
@sebytheman 3 жыл бұрын
blowing into cartridges is an important act of ritual magic. It's a misconception that the objective reality of moisture is a bigger deal than the spiritual weight of physically blowing your energy into your grimoires.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
hahah fair enough!
@megamob5834
@megamob5834 3 жыл бұрын
Yes it’s also advised to encircle your NES in salt to banish any negative energy that may cause your pins to bend
@NERD-FROM-THE-SOUTH
@NERD-FROM-THE-SOUTH 3 жыл бұрын
I’m watching you play retro games on a CRT on my CRT via a downscaling Device..but because your so awesome it doesn’t actually downscale it at all! It definitely upscales it including my mood and day 😃 thank you for being you! Looking forward to many more to come!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
All right!
@wiz3421
@wiz3421 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest misconception that brothers me would be that older video games are just not as good. Video games are akin to music in that if it is well constructed it will remain appreciated and respected. Does anyone refuse to listen to music from the past just because it is not current? No. Then why would anyone assume that an older game is no longer worth their time because it too is not current?
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That's another misconception that I've seen die down a bit in recent years as well, although I suppose it will always be subjective to some degree. In a funny twist, lots of retro gamers say that modern games simply aren't as good as retro games haha :)
@wiz3421
@wiz3421 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming Now that I can understand completely. I don't have time to sit down and play a 200 hour game on top of loading times, updates, etc. I haven't played some very popular games due to this such as Skyrim, Grand Theft Autos, and Final Fantasys (minus the NES one) for example. It's a bit disheartening that all this focus has been put on graphics and actual game play has seem to go by the wayside. Not in every instance obviously but in general. You die in a modern game? No problem. Just try again. You die in Castlevania, well you better improve those skills or you are not going to see much of the game lol. Side note: Finally bear Rocket Knight Adventures yesterday. Great game but man did that upside down level give me problems. Took me forever to realize you can look at the bottom. Laughed at myself for a while over that one.
@minignoux4566
@minignoux4566 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiz3421 i have to say that games where always trying to push the graphics as soon as good 3d was possible everyone was doing it, the mode 7 of the snes is another example i still have to agree that, while they were pusing for graphics, it didn't compromise gamplay
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Same with films. I never understood it (that people would only consume the brand new).
@pat2430
@pat2430 3 жыл бұрын
I about died laughing when you were eating frozen tater tots and ketchup was squirted on your face 🤣
@dad7275
@dad7275 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that was hilarious too.😁👍
@CheekyTankEngine
@CheekyTankEngine 3 жыл бұрын
I was actually caught off guard by the ketchup. I was just like "What the- Where'd that come from?!" lol
@dad7275
@dad7275 3 жыл бұрын
@@CheekyTankEngine not only that but it was complementary to the "frozen tater tots ". 😂
@classicpctinker5070
@classicpctinker5070 3 жыл бұрын
I guess it's something everyone has to try for themselves once. =D
@IffyJottere
@IffyJottere 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was a comedy bit, and the "ketchup" was intended to be blood from breaking his teeth trying to eat still-frozen briquettes of potato. 🙂
@jxk46
@jxk46 3 жыл бұрын
Never had a gameboy until recently, and the screen really isn’t that bad when you get used to it! It really just depends on the game
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, games without scrolling play okay on it.
@Ty-douken
@Ty-douken 3 жыл бұрын
I've been seriously considering doing an lcd mod for my Gameboy, not because cause it's needed but just for convenience.
@inspica380
@inspica380 3 жыл бұрын
Get yourself links awakening!
@Ty-douken
@Ty-douken 3 жыл бұрын
@@inspica380 easily my favorite 2D Zelda game, though I'm much more partial to the gameboy color "DX" version as it's what I played & still own.
@inspica380
@inspica380 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ty-douken its a great game any variation, but I'm personally much more fond of the original gameboy version. It has an incredibly fun bug you can manipulate. Screen warping... I've gotten to places I shouldn't have yet with it. I've gotten all the dungeon items without even getting the dungeon keys by warping phasing through a cave wall and popping up in a random dungeon. I've explored out of bound areas we aren't supposed actually see. Its so much fun it makes it the best version for me.
@bareq99
@bareq99 3 жыл бұрын
"now a days there is so much awareness around video games having value with weird stuff going on even outside the typical collecting scene" *points at Mario 64* I see what you did there :)
@jeremiahthomas8140
@jeremiahthomas8140 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually people watching this video years from now are going to be wondering why he was pointing at Super Mario 64.
@classicpctinker5070
@classicpctinker5070 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahthomas8140 Ack, I don't understand right now! XD Price seems reasonable at moment. Does it have something to do with Mario 64 recently becoming trendy to port anything and everything including toaster ovens ala Doom and Quake? Kids of the future won't understand that the N64 release isn't a vanity printing of an amateur port to a retro console?
@jeremiahthomas8140
@jeremiahthomas8140 3 жыл бұрын
@@classicpctinker5070 I think he is alluding to the $1.5 million auction for a sealed copy the other day.
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahthomas8140 I don't understand that. I mean a sealed copy of a common variant would be worth quite a bit, but only like £100 instead of £20, not $1.5M lol.
@jeremiahthomas8140
@jeremiahthomas8140 3 жыл бұрын
@@bangerbangerbro I do not either. Some people have suggested that their is some collusion between WATA and Heritage Auctions to artificially inflate prices, but I have no idea.
@brockalbert5111
@brockalbert5111 3 жыл бұрын
Video games that look like real life really creep me out.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
hahah
@zombee38
@zombee38 3 жыл бұрын
I agree to that...I play video games to escape from real life for a few minutes and not to get immersed in a realistic way.
@andremalerba5281
@andremalerba5281 3 жыл бұрын
Should we start using Vintage games instead of Retro games? I loved that you've used Shinobi 3 footage! That is still one of my all time favorites and one that I never stopped playing! TBH I've played it to completion again this Tuesday LOL This game is awesome!
@ArmaBiologica35
@ArmaBiologica35 3 жыл бұрын
Vintage games seems far more appropiate. Sounds better too.
@ostiariusalpha
@ostiariusalpha 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, we should label old games as vintage, especially the actual physical carts on original consoles; calling them retro just sounds stupid, honestly. If you're playing an old game through emulation as a rom on modern equipment, that is retro gameplay of a vintage game.
@idxman01
@idxman01 3 жыл бұрын
Sure, if you want to be hipsters.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Shinobi III is definitely awesome. Probably one of the best games for the console.
@wulver810
@wulver810 3 жыл бұрын
@@idxman01 or English majors.
@Level1Sword
@Level1Sword 3 жыл бұрын
This could probably go down a whole rabbit trail and spark a sub-genre of "Misconceptions about RPGs", but I remember my mom couldn't watch me play turn-based RPGs because I would just "stand there and let the bad guys hit me". I think we can all agree turn-based combat is a simulation, not an actual playing-out of real combat. Right?
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Don't just stand there! Get out of the way haha :)
@NimhLabs
@NimhLabs 2 жыл бұрын
Having played the Monster Hunter franchise... well some of it... Turn Based RPGs make sense somewhat. As the Core "Old World" Monster Hunter games are, ultimately, turn based when you get good at playing them The difference is instead of relying on a Defense Stat, you have your Evasion Stat put through the roof by having the player be in charge of that one. Where as in Turn Based RPGs Evasion is just a number... and a Jail Cell is just a room... that is how that saying goes, right?
@megamob5834
@megamob5834 3 жыл бұрын
Being a big mega man fan, I always hear the misconception that mm games are overly difficult. Some people who haven’t played them seem to think they are in league with the likes of battletoads, ninja gaiden and ghosts n’ goblins
@codydfwn
@codydfwn 3 жыл бұрын
I mean... They are.. As a Mega Man fan myself.. But that's like saying Alien Soldier is in that same category.. Can be.. Depending on what we're talking about.. That's just overgeneralization at it's finest... Which is irritating for even some one like me with most outsiders in the realm of my own knowledge.. They talk like they're big fans/super in-the-know of the subject they are speaking on... but feel as if they're not if they're complaining on something in the angle that makes them _not._ I'm even guilty of this sometimes... But get better the more time I get to spend with them/it.. Just as the most diehard fans get their opinions made with it, are.. Everything is too immediate these days.. Reviews included.. Just as their ADHD-ready/anxious reviews (which are basically the equivalent of opinionated comments these days) are just as empty as those complaining,.. Haven't gave it enough time.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I've always felt difficulty is a tricky thing to get any sort of consensus on.
@megamob5834
@megamob5834 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming that’s very true. I guess what I mean is that mm games are thought of as being ‘unfair’ in their difficulty. Which I think is a pretty big misconception.
@magicjohnson3121
@magicjohnson3121 3 жыл бұрын
You just got to know the robot masters weaknesses
@sonicmaiden2871
@sonicmaiden2871 3 жыл бұрын
I suck at mega man games. I couldn't beat at least one 😅 Of course, harder games exist but I guess that harder games are not made for me.
@dustinpaulson1123
@dustinpaulson1123 3 жыл бұрын
The misconception that retro gamers don't like or appreciate newer games ignores the fact that newer games are the result of multi-generational evolutions in design. You don't get to Skyrim on Xbox without open worlds like The Legend of Zelda on the NES. I can have a maybe deeper appreciation for a modern game than a non-retro gamer because I can look back on decades of growth in gaming and can see the many improvements that have occured over the years. My son is 10, and while he may think that Minecraft is the "be all, end all" experience in gaming, he lacks the experience and perspective to appreciate WHY a game like that exists in the first place. He wasn't around for Actraiser or SimCity or Civilization or Theme Hospital or The Sims. All that freedom to build a world he so chooses came from many earlier iterations and innovations that he's never heard of or played. My retro library isn't just for my entertainment; it's for my kids' education. In the same way that my copy of The Odyssey paves the way for my kids to enjoy Harry Potter, my copy of City Connection does as well for Rocket League. Also, Trader Tots.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I will say, that my viewers dislike modern games more than I was anticipating when I started the channel. Either way, yes, lots of retro gamers play modern games.
@Jms2bond
@Jms2bond 3 жыл бұрын
Nailed it!!
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
Lol you make it sound like knowing video game history is crucial to life.
@dustinpaulson1123
@dustinpaulson1123 3 жыл бұрын
@@bangerbangerbro really? I didn't mean it that way. My bad.
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
@@dustinpaulson1123 Sorry I pick up on weird things. I just thought it was funny talking about video games as "your kids' education".
@gordostein1008
@gordostein1008 3 жыл бұрын
So many memories of nearly passing out trying to blow the cartridge pins clean!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hahah gotta keep blowing harder!
@DrBoX89
@DrBoX89 Жыл бұрын
The fact that this channel doesn’t have more subscribers is just criminal. I love the content here and always enjoy several laughs too. Thanks for doing what you do!
@RomanDHulk
@RomanDHulk 2 жыл бұрын
Metal Jesus, John Hancock, John Riggs, all very cool. But man, you are absolutely HILARIOUS! Keep it up, man!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad to hear you enjoy the channel :)
@CheekyTankEngine
@CheekyTankEngine 3 жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to admit I believed the "blowing air into the cartridge pins" myth for quite some time. It made sense to me at the time, but I know better now.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, we pretty much all did!
@teneleven2818
@teneleven2818 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming everyone was doing that across the nation before the Internet too, to spread that around.
@jmac79ers
@jmac79ers 3 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, it actually does help. When you blow on them, the moisture from your breath can work as a conductor, all great once the game would get working. Then the moisture and bacteria just makes the problem worse when all we needed was cotton swab and a little alcohol, doh!
@rmullens6594
@rmullens6594 3 жыл бұрын
I still do
@Zahir658
@Zahir658 3 жыл бұрын
Also this would be my reply to those quotes to them: 1. 4:06: Well at least, we get to have lot of fun and play to win rather than pay to win XD 2. 7:45: That photo realistic is one of the main reason why you have to wait for longer time for updates with huge gigabyte on it. And yeah, I prefer the 2D one but I also like 3D retro gaming like Daytona USA and Virtua Cop 2.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, some Virtua Cop 2 is my jam!
@Zahir658
@Zahir658 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming Same here :)
@OzagSalo
@OzagSalo 3 жыл бұрын
You have the best "retro" game videos
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Nick!
@dad7275
@dad7275 3 жыл бұрын
I think another misconception is someone might say is "that game is the price of a brand new one!"..but to us retro gamers its much more desired than a so called "new one" that we might be willing to pay 4× the price of a "new one" just to get that game we've desired for maybe even decades as we might have been wanting it since childhood. Thats why its worth the price of a "new one" to us.
@BMat7500
@BMat7500 3 жыл бұрын
I was really lucky and grew up playing things like the Super Nintendo and Sega Dreamcast along with other older and classic consoles even though I grew up in the early 2000’s. I didn’t even realize that the Super Nintendo was as old as it was back when I was little I just thought that the games were going for that graphical style rather than they were older than games on the Dreamcast. The first game I ever remember playing was Donkey Kong Country on the SNES which is still in my top 5 favorite games of all time. Because of growing up with not only newer, but retro consoles as well I have a lot of nostalgia for retro gaming which I’m really grateful for. Keep up the great work man your videos are amazing!
@PhilWaylon
@PhilWaylon 3 жыл бұрын
The 8-16-24-32-64 bit era consoles hooked up to a Professional Video Monitor is absolutely brilliant. The picture quality via RGB is mind blowing. It makes you want to replay all the classics on your PVM’s. 📺
@BillB808
@BillB808 3 жыл бұрын
I think the tater tots "moment" was the most extreme stunt so far on the retro bird show...keep it up...whoever sprayed the sauce in...good job!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I would agree with that, except I have literally almost hurt myself doing a couple other shots (Not the CRT TV stuff though). So, those would have to get some consideration.
@Blaumagier
@Blaumagier 2 жыл бұрын
Vintage Games. When you were talking about retro meaning imitating older things, this was all that came to my mind.
@n64fanboy95
@n64fanboy95 3 жыл бұрын
I think quite a few retro gamers believe systems with small game libraries usually didn't have many worthwhile titles outside of the greatest hits. I'm here to tell ya systems like the N64 had much more quality games than people often give credit. I'm sure that's the same for other systems with small libraries as well.
@suntannedduck2388
@suntannedduck2388 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with many underated consoles and handhelds I've explored that would fit that description (Wii U, Vita, Dreamcast, NGage, Neo Geo Pocket, Wonderswan and more). From research mostly (Wii U and Vita I have experience with) I feel the same with the Wii U (going off experience with it as a collector first owning it since 2018), underrated console like.the Dreamcast but small and great library to collect for. Not terrible like consoles with smaller libraries with 4 games like the Hyperscan with literally nothing to offer unless a collector into a novality item or making a KZfaq video about it. Don't know enough about the N64 or Saturn but from what I've explored so far they have really good libraries.
@magicjohnson3121
@magicjohnson3121 3 жыл бұрын
That’s definitely true. Despite the Dreamcast not being out long it has a surprisingly high quality library of games.
@beardyhat9547
@beardyhat9547 2 жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head mentioning exploring stuff you missed back in the day. I switched from console gaming to exclusively PC gaming in about 94, all the way up until the late 20-teens and I'm finally going back and exploring what I missed. I never had a Super Nintendo either, so I get to explore that library with fresh eyes.
@NYCHeavyHitz212
@NYCHeavyHitz212 2 жыл бұрын
Best example for me was when Jordan kicks re-releases were labeled “retro”. We knew what was retro and the OG. As for what can we call it when we play old games, I guess the best word to use is “classic” or “classic style” but retro is fine by me even if it’s not fully accurate with the definition. Y’all know what we mean. 😊
@hungrybartender6388
@hungrybartender6388 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see that our boy RB is down with the Brandy Old-Fashioned!
@putridscene
@putridscene 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to make any claims that they objectively look good, but I very much enjoy the early 3D aesthetic of PS1 and N64 games
@jakek5417
@jakek5417 3 жыл бұрын
The actual definition of the term "retro "is really interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks for the edification.
@apexanomaly
@apexanomaly 3 жыл бұрын
Tying into your video from earlier this week, a retro game misconception I've heard a number of times is that emulation always runs games better than original hardware. Sometimes, but definitely not always.
@TheEddieJ1984
@TheEddieJ1984 3 жыл бұрын
Same is true for the other way around, like an original playstation, depending on how the laser is acting, emulation does seem to be better at times (Usually always stuttering video on a original playstation) but then N64 to me, always feels better on the original hardware.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like I hear about the inaccuracies that come with emulation a lot.
@apexanomaly
@apexanomaly 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming Yeah I mostly hear it ill-informed PC gaming evangelists.
@wiz3421
@wiz3421 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting because I usually hear or read the opposite. Frame rate or what have you.
@apexanomaly
@apexanomaly 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiz3421 It's not necessarily the most common of misconceptions, most know that emulating anything 5th or 6th gen or newer has issues. However I have met people with the attitude of "oh well I can just play everything on my PC and it'll run better because I have an I7 and an RTX 2060."
@NESADDICT
@NESADDICT 3 жыл бұрын
That we are out of shape! Round is a shape!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
That's true!
@Cannotbetamed1
@Cannotbetamed1 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, good stuff. I find that retro gamers generally have more misconceptions about modern games than the other way around. At least negative misconceptions.
@hhectorlector
@hhectorlector 3 жыл бұрын
5:49 people say this about the N64 all the time (among other consoles)!!! It's so irritating sometimes!
@antiquecardboard
@antiquecardboard 3 жыл бұрын
Tom's Toothpaste! A man of culture I see...
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
A fellow user I assume :)
@volt8ge
@volt8ge 2 жыл бұрын
I love Altered Beast!!! “Rise from your grave!!” And the ketchup squirt on your face was hilarious!!! 😂 😆 🤣
@magicjohnson3121
@magicjohnson3121 3 жыл бұрын
Gaming misconception: Some people dismiss some older consoles as bad (for example N64 or Sega Saturn) as bad because they don’t like the well known games on it when there are plenty hidden gems.
@Simoss13
@Simoss13 3 жыл бұрын
My mother still has the misconception that 'video games are a waste of money that rot your brain' Meanwhile she will sit in front of the idiot box and watch reality TV. Still waiting for my copy of Rocket Knight Adventures mother!!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's a misconception that's slowly going away as people who grew up with video games are now adults teaching their own kids that they're okay.
@classicpctinker5070
@classicpctinker5070 3 жыл бұрын
My Boomer mother is the same way. I wonder where the stigma came from? I think the arcades of the 1970's were targeted primarily for that generation.
@yauy
@yauy 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta have tots! Who did you get to squirt ketchup (barbecue sauce?) at you? 🤣
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was ketchup and my wife always likes to help out with any shots where I need help :)
@GarmrNL
@GarmrNL 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming Did she have any context, or were you like “Hey hun, I’m going to put tots in my mouth, can you shoot some ketchup at my face”? I’d love to see some behind the scenes footage or bloopers someday, I’m guessing you have loads of fun filming those in between shots :-D
@SuperNicktendo
@SuperNicktendo 3 жыл бұрын
I wish people would have the more focus on framerate. Apparently less than 30 is still not a problem for people. But consoles and TVs are at least starting to make locked 30 the norm with 60 and 120 as options along with Variable Refresh Rate. That's also why early 3D games don't seem to age well. They run at 10-15
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Back then we called it slow motion!
@3dmarth
@3dmarth 2 жыл бұрын
You just touched on a misconception: "60fps is a new fad, and we didn't have that kind of thing growing up!" Almost all 2D console games ran at 60fps (or 50 in PAL Land). If they ran at 30, then there's a good chance that they were janky, B/C-tier games that aren't so well remembered, anyway. One cool thing about emulators is that they can bring a lot of N64-era games up to 60fps. Some need a Game Shark code to take advantage of the improved performance, but others are already programmed to run at 60, so they just need the overclock settings turned up. I've found it surprising just how many games from that time can hold 60fps when the hardware limitations are pushed out of the way.
@arturius7462
@arturius7462 3 жыл бұрын
2:32 I love that screen : ) It is prefect to play outside. I grew up with the DS, and I remember the pain every time the sun would shine on the console, and it was impossible to see anything. I don't have this problem with my game boy
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Love me some Game Boy!
@jmac79ers
@jmac79ers 3 жыл бұрын
The, "oh you must have spent a fortune on all of that STUFF." Then trying to explain "uhhh well no actually, you see thrift store here, a yard sale here, oh and these paid me to absorb into my collection....it's complicated."
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, totally.
@justinr1094
@justinr1094 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with the misconception about people only enjoying retro games because of nostalgia. I was born after the fifth generation and back had already come and gone, and the sixth was on its way out. I absolutely adore these systems and the Super Nintendo is my favorite console of all-time! I mostly play retro games exclusively now, and I have zero nostalgia for 99% of them.
@davidbullard1671
@davidbullard1671 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Dynamic Cop! The game may be short, but there something so "Sega Arcade like" that just gives it a special charm. Ahh.. memories.😊
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely! It's arcade goodness to it's core.
@fitzyclio93
@fitzyclio93 3 жыл бұрын
People misconceive that I just want to play the games, so they point out that I could just download golden axe on my phone.
@TheRetroCount
@TheRetroCount 3 жыл бұрын
Get ON my lawn merch when?
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I'll have to look into it :)
@REAPER-1xxx
@REAPER-1xxx 3 жыл бұрын
Biggest misconceptions in retro gaming I notice is: people who cannot relate to why someone likes retro gaming or thinks a certain game or era was the peak brushes them off as wearing nostalgia goggles. The other misconception I notice only started since the pandemic but shops and people all think retro games even if they’re trash are worth good money. Basically prices even for bad/common games are getting out of control, atleast at retro stores.
@ChicagoRetroGamer
@ChicagoRetroGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest one I always hear is that the technology is dated, and then few of those same people who say that realize that some of these retro games were the pioneers that utilized technology which was the initial iteration of the technology that most games use today. Cheers to retro gaming, my friend!
@sbrazenor2
@sbrazenor2 3 ай бұрын
That part about the Brandy was hilarious. I can imagine being dehydrated and chugging a bunch of liquor during a run won't turn out well. 🤣
@erneststackhouse1133
@erneststackhouse1133 6 ай бұрын
When I was little i remember adults would say: "video games are meaningless." A huge misconception as it helps with depression, improves mental health & let's face it everyone needs a break from life now & then! Video games really use your memory for decision making, problem solving & even stimulates creativity & focus! Video games bring much joy, just ask any kid (or adult) who gets a new console for Christmas or any time for that matter! Video Games just make life that much happier!
@RETROBOB7890
@RETROBOB7890 2 ай бұрын
This comment is actually beutifull
@sloppynyuszi
@sloppynyuszi 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been replaying some old PS1 games recently. Not all of the 3D aged that poorly. I think the Ridge Racer games still look fine, but that’s probably me just liking the aesthetic. And Tobal No.1 looks outright good still. The morphing textures is honestly the biggest problem, and flat polygons with a face texture. But some artists who understood the limits could create games that aged fine even though it’s from the PS1 3D era. Jumping Flash, Wipe out series, Horned Owl, Zero Divide, and I’m probably missing a lot. They didn’t really push the hardware, but looked great. It’s when they push the hardware is when things go pear shaped.
@joshj88
@joshj88 2 жыл бұрын
If you are willing to get a cheap or low end TV, most, even 4K screens, have a composite video in port. Some of us don’t have the luck or space for being able to own a CRT to retro game on. Another solution is to use a smaller TV, of around 20-25 inches diagonal, that is more representative of the size of TV used back in the day. A 1080 set ins important. A 4K set can be difficult to put retro games on and a good upscaler can cost about as much as 10-20 good action(non-rpg) games
@cinnamondan4984
@cinnamondan4984 3 жыл бұрын
I love the mechanics of Golden Eye...not sure why but it just feels right
@v4nta197
@v4nta197 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about games that surprised the community like as in mortal kombat or Conkers bad fur day those games that shocked the video game audience
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, not sure I own enough of them. I actually don't own Mortal Kombat believe it or not.
@bareq99
@bareq99 3 жыл бұрын
I'll defend the N64 graphics till the day I die! And I didn't grow up with it or any other video game console/PC I only got into gaming 2 years ago lol N64 is the perfection of video games to me honestly
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Regardless of what N64 games look like, I still have fun playing a lot of them.
@bareq99
@bareq99 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming same situation here They look super bad and run worse But I love them because of that reason haha Almost half way through playing all the US releases so far!
@NoName-oy2tk
@NoName-oy2tk 3 жыл бұрын
Yea... good luck hydrating with Brandy after a run or even before a run. You probably be hating yourself for attempting.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Will just have to see how it goes!
@rmullens6594
@rmullens6594 3 жыл бұрын
My kids grew up playing these games together with me and my wife. I don’t think they have misconceptions (rather accurate conceptions) as we can laugh together at the ones that don’t hold up but they recognize how awesome and ridiculous some of the story concepts are, and how innovative they were for the time. It’s all perspective. No matter the age I think people will enjoy a lot of games that stood the test of time. Case in point…I can’t get my 14 year old to play anything other than Fortnite. Yet he sat down and played through Contra with me the other night and had a great time. Same concept with movies. My 11 year old loves Spaceballs but there are other movies from back then that I loved but we now agree they stink. We did the same thing back then. Once a new generation console came out it blew away the games of the previous. But this is all in how I personally raised mine. I can understand the misconceptions from someone coming in cold. You made a great point about people selling off games. However I really wish I hadn’t sold all my Atari games back then just so I could play Faxanadu.
@Zahir658
@Zahir658 3 жыл бұрын
I have another two retro gaming misconceptions: 1. Retro Gaming is just too easy and are only for kids XD 2. Retro Game Music are so boring and repetitive.
@dad7275
@dad7275 3 жыл бұрын
When they say that tell them fire up a game of Super Ghouls N Ghosts and say alright super gamer beat this. As far as the music goes its all personal taste. Alot of retro gamers prefer chiptune music. 😉👍
@Zahir658
@Zahir658 3 жыл бұрын
@@dad7275 1. Exactly. Let them try to beat this game XD 2. Yeah but what really annoys me is that I heard people telling that retro music game is really annoying which is definitely not true.
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah listening to VGM always used to wind my dad up. I did go through a phase of admitting it is crap but after I started liking a lot again. Maybe my standards went down.
@dad7275
@dad7275 3 жыл бұрын
@@bangerbangerbro yea im one of those dads that listened to it. 😁
@bangerbangerbro
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
@@dad7275 Yeah I'm no music expert but I think they all just want words. I didn't care about words in songs for years.
@badreality2
@badreality2 3 жыл бұрын
I know I've said this to you before, and I'll say it again, the first two generations of 2-D games don't look that great, like the first generation of 3-D games, but their graphics don't get a bad rap, because they were released before the North America video game boom of 1986. Henceforth, not as many people played them/have nostalgia for them, so they are not af critiqued, as much. 3-D video game graphics did NOT have the luxury of being postponed for 5 years, because whichever console could do 3-D, could be heavily advertised, because people CRAVED being able to play in an extra dimension. It's like saying, "The ENTIRE video games industry should have started developing two-dimensional games in 1983, instead of 1972, so that their graphics would look better." Also, "blocky" graphics were NOT a deterrent, due to the amount of extra-dimensional play area people now had. There WAS no precedent on what are GOOD 3-D graphics, until the HD era of video gaming. It's like telling a 1960's muscle car fan that his beloved cat steers and brakes horribly. Driving a modern muscle car gives one perspective, but that doesn't mean thay his beloved cars shouldn't have been developed, when he was in his prime. Also, I like the comedic spray of ketchup, into your mouth. 👌
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent points and well-articulated as usual. I especially like the way you explained the lack of a precedent for 3D games. I wasn't necessarily saying that it was realistic for the gaming industry to stick with 2D for longer, but just from a fan's perspective it's cool to think about "what if".
@badreality2
@badreality2 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming @Retro Bird Thank you for the compliment! I self-taught myself to argue points through definitive reasoning, and it has paid off in spades! That is true, it is cool to think about the "what if". The 2-D games on the Sega Saturn, Nintendo 64, and Playstation, look BEAUTIFUL, but if video games companies were still 2-D focused, I would miss some of best 3-D games made, like Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie. In 2002, Rareware was sold by Nintendo, to Microsoft, where they were micromanaged into submission. Naughty Dog was only interested in making Crash Bandicoot during the PS1 era, and that was it! ...if they made him for a primarily 2-D system his gameplay would have started out very differently. If technology isn't released sooner, than later. Some games (or anything really), doesn't reach its full potential. One thing you got mostly wrong in this video, is that blowing into one's carriage does not help with the electrical connections. ...more than a reseating is being done. Moisture is being blown onto the connector, and when it is reaseated, it makes better electrical contact. A study was done doing this, with its control being compressed air. Blowing was always more successful. Though, as we all know now, a thorough alcohol cleaning is now the recommended cleaning method.
@3dmarth
@3dmarth 2 жыл бұрын
Older post, I know, but you made some good points! I'd like to add that we can see some evidence of what would have happened, had 3D graphics been postponed until the tech could catch up: High-end '90s games that were ahead of their time. The Dreamcast had roughly PS2-level hardware, but a lot of its games- even exclusives- looked kind of awkward, like N64 games with more polygons and sharper textures. (Some early PS2 games are in the same boat.) Same goes for the similarly capable Model 3 arcade system in 1996, or even the less advanced Sega Model 2 and Namco's System 22 in 1993 (either of which easily outperformed the PS1 or N64). The hardware was there, but the graphical techniques found in newer games simply didn't exist, until people experimented to see what could be done. Contrast this to games found on weaker systems like the PSP or 3DS in later decades. PS: I did find the blockiness of N64 and PS1 graphics off-putting at the time, and it took quite some time to warm up to them. Now I'm really fond of that era, for some reason.
@Ty-douken
@Ty-douken 3 жыл бұрын
While not a misconception I've found that retro games actually are more like a band. They're made with a small team & tend to be a more "pure" expression of that group's (or their creative lead's) ideas.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
I like that way of looking at them :)
@TheY2AProblem
@TheY2AProblem 3 жыл бұрын
Awful used to mean awe inspiring, now it means bad.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Almost the total opposite :)
@oscarpanduro4918
@oscarpanduro4918 3 жыл бұрын
I have nostalgia for the n64 because I used to play it all the time at my uncles house and it came out before I was even born
@ErKtheErK
@ErKtheErK 3 жыл бұрын
You speak to my soul. "I get to look at real-life all the time!"
@ChaosShadowZero89
@ChaosShadowZero89 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I always look forward to these
@inputfunny
@inputfunny 3 жыл бұрын
8:37 Ackshually... The moisture from your breath gives better conductivity to the metal contacts and can remove small amounts of new dust; it's not good for the long term because of corrosion, but it does work. A better method is to just use Q-tips and a high % isopropyl alcohol to clean the pins.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've heard that the moisture helps conductivity but couldn't find anything definitive. I'm glad you mentioned this because I'd only ever seen it one time before. Like you said, it's not good for the long haul either way so it's still not recommended and yes, the q-tips and alcohol method seems to be pretty agreed upon these days.
@luismiguelsamayoa9405
@luismiguelsamayoa9405 23 күн бұрын
Of course it works 😉
@luismiguelsamayoa9405
@luismiguelsamayoa9405 23 күн бұрын
Speaking of misconceptions, blowing into cartridges actually works. It is not good in the long term because humidity causes corrosion. but in the end it is a method that does work.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 23 күн бұрын
Yeah, I've changed my perspective and now believe that the heat can help make the pins more conductive. I still think getting it to work has more to do with repositioning the pins when you take it out though. Either way, like you said, it causes damage long term.
@brandname6
@brandname6 3 жыл бұрын
Your on screen acting is great. Reminds me of rimmer from red dwarf. This is a compliment.
@budz2355
@budz2355 3 жыл бұрын
That ketchup squirt got me 😅
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701
@JAGtheTrekkieGEMINI1701 2 жыл бұрын
*"2D is timeless, 3D visuals were a Bit to Early and modern Games's realistic Look ist kinda boring"!?* Damn I feel Like RIGHT at Home 🤗
@eymed2023
@eymed2023 2 жыл бұрын
I was born in the 2000s. First game I ever played was Super Mario World at 3-4 years old, on Zsnes. I still remember the first time my Dad presented to me Mario 64, on Project 64, and I was like "Wow! It's 3D! Everything here is different!". When I got older, I learned how to download roms and emulators myself, and from there, the door was blown right open. If it EXISTS, I can play it. No need to ask my parents to buy games. I never even SAW a PS1 but I still had a great time with PSX-Fin and some BINs I downloaded from Rox-Roms. Only problem was Wii and Gamecube games, which are harder to emulate. But after softmodding my Wii and installing Nintendon't, I went from being a slave of the system to being the king of it! "You can't tell me what I can or cannot play, you little plastic brick! I'm gonna play whatever I want and YOU WILL RUN IT!" Talking about being a little rebel. I grew up with retro games despite most of them coming before I was even born. I dream of one day having a room with retro consoles, upscalers, flashcarts, ODSs, a closet for controllers, TV in middle and a large couch. Now that's a life!
@MountainHomeJerrel
@MountainHomeJerrel 2 жыл бұрын
I developed a full sized Gameboy Game last year and tested heavily on original DMG hardware. It was almost impossible to see the screen. The GBC is visible at least.
@KyleYoung2012
@KyleYoung2012 3 жыл бұрын
I love retro games,mainly because games back than were actually complete;i dont really like many modern games because most of them are incomplete or have microtransactions or DLC and most modern games lose value fast
@arenschultz
@arenschultz 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been collecting both games I grew up with as well as many I never got to play. One game I picked up recently is Pirates Legend of Black Kat for OG Xbox. I remember loving it back then but when I gave it a shot I questioned myself as to why I loved it so much lol
@Yipper64
@Yipper64 3 жыл бұрын
2:28 mmm I can tell ya thats not true. Playing banjo kazooie right now for (technically) the first time, and I love it. It came out before I was even born.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
All right! Banjo Kazooie is awesome!
@ap0ll0_xxi
@ap0ll0_xxi 3 жыл бұрын
Same I was literally born 12 years after the N64 and it’s one of my favorite video game consoles.
@TheZaaz
@TheZaaz 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. Really enjoying your videos. Very down to earth and funny.
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to have you around! Thanks!
@Kpr316
@Kpr316 3 жыл бұрын
Great content as always. Have an algorithmic boost sir
@ActionGamerAaron
@ActionGamerAaron 3 жыл бұрын
New to your content. You have a fun style and I look forward to more. Subscribed!
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
All right! Lots of videos on the channel and lots more to come. Glad to have you here :)
@Peeps7468
@Peeps7468 3 жыл бұрын
Another great video... thank you!! Your comment about nostalgia is really interesting. I grew up with an NES (and later an SNES and N64) and my uncle had a Sega Master System. I now have a Genesis Mini, and I bought a bunch of TurboGrafx 16 games on the Wii U virtual console. I love the TG16 and Genesis games that I've never played before. So you're right - it's not nostalgia why I like games like Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine or Devil's Crush. But when I looked at the PS1 classic, I didn't pick it up because it held no appeal to me whatsoever. The games looked like just older versions of more modern games. And I didn't see the appeal of low-polygon games. And when I visited a friend with a retro Atari system, again, I didn't like the look of the games (too old - a weird thing for me to think, I know), and I had little interest in it. Is it possible to feel nostalgic about an art style? In particular, I really feel like 16-bit graphics are superb (with some notable 8-bit games that look great, along with some pixel art 32-bit games on the other end like Game Boy Advance and Castlevania SOTN also drawing my interest). Strangely, the new Shanti games and the newer Ghosts n Goblins resurrection game look objectively great, but to me they look too polished - it's hard to explain. I like to see my pixels when I'm playing. Thanks as always for a thought-provoking video. The biggest retro gaming myth to me was that either SNES or Genesis was better. I was firmly in the Nintendo camp growing up, but I now better understand that both systems were incredible, both had great exclusive games, and we should be so lucky in the future to ever witness such a clash of greatness between two similar but different gaming systems in the future. Speaking of actual retro games, I just purchased and installed Tanglewood onto my Genesis Mini! It looks 16-bit, was programmed to work on original Genesis hardware, and it was released in 2018. I love it so far!! Have a wonderful weekend, and I'm already waiting for your next video!!
@sidearmsalpha
@sidearmsalpha 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I feel the same about you regarding retro gaming. I was a kid when I got an Atari and eventually got a NES but it was 16-bit gaming that really cemented my love for retro gaming. There are a few standout 8-bit games that I like but for me it's 16-bit and upward that I love. I definitely want to check out some of the newer games that were released for older 16-bit consoles and I love that there are developers that still make games with 16-bit or newer 2D sprite-based graphics with retro gaming play mechanics.
@idxman01
@idxman01 3 жыл бұрын
All nostalgia. Oh wait, I have 3 gameboy games I’ve never played in route now!
@pixelpoppyproductions
@pixelpoppyproductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for backing me up on a recent (and also pointless) argument over the definition of “retro games”! 🤣
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@CassiDS
@CassiDS 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who's played retro games on modern TVs and thought they looked fine, I think the issue is less "they're playing the games on a modern TV" and moreso "they're looking at these games through the eyes of a graphics snob"
@tomallica420
@tomallica420 3 жыл бұрын
I need to see the out takes from the ketchup shot
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
It was just one shot. My bib was trashed and so the pressure was on to get it the first take.
@tomallica420
@tomallica420 3 жыл бұрын
@@RetroBirdGaming the perfect response. Good thing I ate a banana. Whew!
@bocanegrageorge
@bocanegrageorge 3 жыл бұрын
Rofl at the tater tots. My teeth hurt looking at that
@Alianger
@Alianger 3 жыл бұрын
Playing sonic 2 in 2021 is performing a retro act!
@Jarod_Schultz
@Jarod_Schultz 3 жыл бұрын
Retro gamers have redefined the word "retro". The word is defined as "imitative of a style, fashion, or design from the recent past". It's sort of like a 2005 Mustang, which looks like a 60's era Mustang. Today the words "retro gaming" simply means older games.
@cd4playa1245
@cd4playa1245 2 жыл бұрын
Yes words can adopt new meanings over time, such as decimation which means to destroy a tenth of something, yet it’s been used synonymously with completely destroying something. Or the word apocalypse is actually an unveiling, maybe of a divine revelation of something holy and good, but it’s now synonymous with dystopian futures and zombies.
@metroidfannumber1234
@metroidfannumber1234 3 жыл бұрын
people like retro games that didn't even grew up with them. most people hear about the really good old games from youtubers like you and many others and become collectors and fans because of that introduction.
@suntannedduck2388
@suntannedduck2388 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@popixel
@popixel 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer using the word classic when it comes to old video games rather than using the word retro. Another interesting word that gets thrown around a lot is nostalgia, and if you look up the etymology on that word you’ll have a completely different look on it.
@ananon5771
@ananon5771 3 жыл бұрын
i watched your video on emulation and liked the take,but this video is gold,subbed
@RetroBirdGaming
@RetroBirdGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you and welcome to the channel!
@amdcolon1
@amdcolon1 3 жыл бұрын
I'll never see tater tots the same again🤣🤣🤣
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Some games didn't age well 2 mins past purchase! Never did I regret spending my scarce money more than when I bought Altered Beast for the Sega Master System. What a turd that was 😭
@famousbowl9926
@famousbowl9926 2 жыл бұрын
One of my cousins had that green 64. My favorite gane ti play was donkey kong. The one with his family.
@evgaming9390
@evgaming9390 2 жыл бұрын
I find as I get older I seem to only collect Retro games I enjoyed as a kid or ones I missed out but would have enjoyed. A good example was Okami PS2.
@Kuduloka
@Kuduloka Жыл бұрын
Music could be readily compared to retro gaming, especially in the second category: old things becoming new. Most of what I listen to came out years ago. And I am constantly finding old bands and music for days past that I thoroughly enjoy.
@shinobi197
@shinobi197 2 жыл бұрын
Games are for kids ! Conker: Ahhh its gonna be one of those days...
@llamathenerd1672
@llamathenerd1672 2 жыл бұрын
2:30 I actually really like the original Game Boy's screen because it doesn't have a backlight, making it easy on the eyes and more power efficient. The screen tear while moving is pretty bad though.
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